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IR Interview: Kam Williams & Ace Amerson For “The Challenge - All Stars” [Paramount+-S4]
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2 years ago
All Star Competitors Kam Williams & Ace Amerson talk to The Inside Reel about approach, environment, strategy and communication in regards to the 4th season of the competition series: “The Challenge - All Stars” on Paramount+.
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00:00
[MUSIC]
00:10
>> The next Challenge All-Star Champion.
00:14
>> What we're gonna do is we're gonna give you guys a show.
00:17
>> What is that?
00:19
>> Best challenge ever.
00:21
>> The Challenge All-Stars, new season streaming April 10th.
00:24
>> The Challenge, it's about mind and body.
00:29
And it's about mindset.
00:31
The thing is that each of you in your competitions before,
00:34
you have to approach it in a different way with something like this.
00:38
Because these are all winners in many ways.
00:40
Can you each talk about your mindset going into this specific show and
00:46
where your heads were at?
00:48
Cam, if you wanna start and then Ace.
00:49
>> Absolutely, so my mindset going into this show is different from any other
00:55
show that I've done because I am a new mom.
00:58
So with me being a new mom, it's just time to play a no nonsense game, right?
01:04
I'm not here to waste any time and just to sit back and let other people make
01:08
the moves, that's how I always play.
01:10
But now it's even a lot more intensified, essentially,
01:15
because I'm not just playing for myself.
01:17
I am playing for my child back home as well.
01:20
And my baby was only eight months old when I left, and Lee is here with me as well.
01:25
So my baby does not have both of their parents at home.
01:28
So I'm gonna do whatever I can to win because if I make a huge game move,
01:33
that's amazing for my game and I get to stay another day.
01:37
But if I make a huge game move and go home,
01:39
I get to go home to the most amazing baby in the world.
01:42
So I'm ready to risk it all.
01:45
[MUSIC]
01:48
>> There are certain people that are challengers at heart.
01:50
I am one of them.
01:52
[MUSIC]
01:54
>> I wanna make it undeniable.
01:57
Champion of champs, that's what I want.
02:00
>> I belong here, I can do it.
02:01
I'm getting my redemption.
02:03
>> Even though I'm a mom now, I'm still killer camp.
02:05
>> I'm excited to be with them, but this is a game.
02:08
>> So I've been friends with Martin Long for like 17 years.
02:10
And he's always been like that big brother, and I never had.
02:15
And the last challenge after I went home first, he gave me the best advice.
02:19
He was like, listen, if something happens, you don't wanna be the guy in the front,
02:24
you don't wanna be in the back, you just gotta hang in the middle,
02:27
pay attention to people, and then make your move at the right time.
02:31
So on this season, I decided I was gonna really think more, stay in the middle,
02:36
and try to learn people more than just trying to rely on my physical abilities,
02:41
which is depleting every day as I get older.
02:44
[LAUGH]
02:45
>> So it's- >> That was bad.
02:47
>> So I turned 45 last week and I can feel it, my knees can go anywhere now.
02:53
>> Welcome to All Stars 4.
02:56
>> Let's [BLEEP] go.
02:57
[MUSIC]
03:01
>> Whoever gets sent in with me, let's play.
03:04
>> I've been gone for 18 years, now is my time.
03:06
>> Laurel hates my guts because she's secretly still in love with me.
03:09
>> I don't wanna hear it.
03:10
>> Do not speak to me for the rest of the game, Ty.
03:13
[MUSIC]
03:14
>> Let's [BLEEP] play.
03:15
>> Now we're having fun.
03:17
>> Man, hell no.
03:18
>> But it's interesting that you said that, Ace,
03:21
is the aspect of communication but listening.
03:23
And I mean, I've seen the first two episodes, so
03:26
it's interesting seeing the dynamics within that structure.
03:29
And how certain people listen, certain people don't.
03:32
Certain people let things happen, others don't.
03:35
Can you talk about the aspect of communication within strategy?
03:39
Not as, to be advantageous, but
03:41
you have to work together sometimes to get through the challenge.
03:45
>> Communication is very,
03:47
that's one of the most important aspects of the game.
03:50
With Ace and I, what I loved and observed about Ace's game is,
03:55
he is like a lone wolf in an amazing sense.
03:58
Because he is not just gonna go with the group or go with the flow.
04:03
Ace is like, no, I'm gonna do what I wanna do.
04:06
Because that's just how he is, and I really love and admire that about him.
04:11
So that shows a real leader quality.
04:15
And just with communication throughout the game,
04:18
obviously I'm there with Lee.
04:19
So that is my main and number one person that I know I can really communicate
04:24
every single thought and how I'm feeling too in regards to gameplay.
04:29
So I have somebody to run it by with and bounce ideas off with.
04:32
And then with the rest of the house, of course,
04:34
because we're trying to build alliances.
04:36
And it's a constant thing.
04:39
This is something you have to do every day.
04:41
You have to wake up and have those conversations and touch bases with people.
04:45
Because that is, believe it or not, what is going to put you higher up on
04:52
their totem pole in a sense.
04:54
Sometimes if I'm just ignoring somebody, they'll be more likely to vote me in.
04:59
[MUSIC]
05:06
>> In order to compete in the final, you must be in possession of a star.
05:10
These stars can and will be stolen.
05:13
[MUSIC]
05:16
>> I'm taking your star when I come back.
05:18
>> It's gonna be a dog fight.
05:20
>> I love the drama.
05:21
>> That was so sweet what you just said.
05:23
Thank you so much.
05:24
I'm really impressed.
05:24
That's one of the nicest things I've ever heard from this.
05:27
So thank you.
05:28
You're so wonderful.
05:29
So thank you.
05:29
>> Who are you?
05:31
>> But yeah, communication is, it took me forever to learn, but
05:36
that's the most important part of this thing is just to talk to people.
05:39
And it's a mental game.
05:45
It gets tough.
05:48
The competitions are tough, but dealing with people, it's really tough.
05:53
And that's why it's so easy to watch this on TV.
05:56
Like, you couldn't spell something and you fell in the water.
05:58
But it's so hard when you're actually in the moment.
06:01
You put your heart and your soul into something.
06:03
And then that's why people get emotional, cuz it's a lot.
06:09
And it's easy to judge from television cuz I do it all the time.
06:12
I'll be watching Survivor like, I know that.
06:14
And then I get up there and I forget how to spell my name.
06:16
So it's a lot.
06:20
>> All have their tables overturned.
06:22
>> What just happened?
06:22
>> Literally pulls out the reverse Uno card.
06:24
>> I'm not trying to be a bad person.
06:27
>> Laurel, you're gonna look back on this and
06:29
regret the way Nicole's playing you for a fool.
06:31
>> You don't [BLEEP] know me.
06:33
>> Shut up.
06:35
>> And my last question to both of you, cuz it's interesting cuz you wanna be
06:38
competitive, but your body says one thing as you were talking about, Ace.
06:43
Your head says another, your instinct says another thing.
06:47
Can you guys talk about how your competitive nature has changed?
06:50
Obviously, Kim, you were talking about being a mother now, and
06:53
that changes the dynamic.
06:54
But has your sense of competition changed as you've grown older,
07:00
as you've had more experience doing what you guys do?
07:02
>> You know what?
07:05
Coming back into the show, one of the questions that I kind of asked myself,
07:10
like, hey, is Killa Cam still in there?
07:13
And just from the moment that it begun,
07:17
from we got to the airport and landed in Cape Town, I'm like, yeah,
07:22
she's definitely still there, whether I'm a mother or not.
07:26
Because I think there's a little bit of Killa Cam in all of us.
07:29
We all are competitive, whether we're playing the challenge or
07:34
we're at home playing game night with our family or something like that.
07:39
It's just the inner competitor in me, and she lives on, and
07:42
that fire is always burning when it's competition time.
07:46
>> Cool, Ace, for you?
07:48
>> Yeah, I tore my ACL a year before this challenge, so
07:53
I knew that I wasn't gonna be able to physically do a lot of the things that
07:57
I would normally be good at.
07:58
So I had to really think, almost cheat in a way.
08:02
Like, if we're looking for something, I would find where the cameras were and
08:07
see what they were focused on.
08:08
They're like, okay, I'm gonna head in that direction.
08:10
And I remember I went this completely opposite way of everybody else,
08:16
and I was so ahead of everybody.
08:18
And Leroy catches me, passes me going 1,000 miles an hour.
08:23
So it was tough because even with me almost cheating,
08:25
me coming up with a whole different route to go, I could still get beat by speed.
08:30
So it was a lot as far as that is concerned.
08:36
[MUSIC]
08:46
(whooshing)
08:49
[BLANK_AUDIO]
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