00:00 I am saying tricky because Iran is our neighbor but we don't have a relationship with them.
00:09 It is a very thin line between showing restraint and showing weakness.
00:17 We have also shown great responsibility that we have not yet reacted to it.
00:22 But what do you think about this thin line? What should we do next?
00:28 Thank you Kashif. I have heard your introduction that this is a tricky issue.
00:36 It is a very difficult area to live in and it is becoming a tough neighborhood.
00:43 Obviously, challenges for Pakistan are of a geostrategic nature.
00:49 But you said two things. First, it is a good question that how to maintain flexibility.
00:56 On one hand, people say that you are setting an example of weakness.
01:01 On the other hand, they say that strategic maturity and restraint are important.
01:05 Strategic maturity is always shown by big countries.
01:09 We should not give them a sudden response.
01:14 We should use maximum restraint in a country like Pakistan which is a nuclear country.
01:20 You are absolutely right that we do not have a relationship with Iran.
01:26 Secondly, this is not a coincidence.
01:29 This is a friendly country for us.
01:32 There has been a disruption in the Iran pipeline.
01:36 But there are many places where friendship was on the rise.
01:42 Especially in the People's Party.
01:44 I am not saying this only because it is the People's Party.
01:46 But it is a managed situation.
01:50 Iran has attacked the semi-autonomous area of Iraq.
01:59 They said that they were using this area for espionage.
02:06 On one hand, they attacked the area which is in our internal affairs.
02:12 What is Iran thinking?
02:16 I am out of curiosity.
02:17 You look at it and say, what are they thinking?
02:19 You are right.
02:21 I was thinking the same thing in the morning.
02:23 I did not post it on Twitter because it is not necessary.
02:25 We can talk about it in the discussion.
02:27 But they are posturing.
02:29 The third attack was in 24 hours.
02:33 The sensitivity in the world regarding Hamas is not a posturing.
02:45 They are posturing to some extent.
02:49 They should have thought about not bringing Pakistan in the way.
02:55 Because such disruptions are happening on our borders.
02:59 We have an agreement with them since 2013.
03:03 We are in a friendship agreement.
03:07 They did not plant a bomb or missile in April.
03:17 They talk to the diplomatic channel.
03:21 They give a statement.
03:23 They talk to a normal neighbour.
03:27 They are normal neighbours.
03:29 But you are right.
03:31 This is not India.
03:33 We have fought wars with them.
03:35 We have a long-term trust deficit.
03:39 We have a very low threshold for India.
03:41 We know this.
03:43 We do not have a very low threshold for such actions.
03:45 There is a threshold and it should be there.
03:47 But look here.
03:49 I think we have a right to say that we cannot maintain our relations at that level.
04:01 Let us not pretend that we will drink it.
04:05 One thing is true.
04:07 We have taken a diplomatic option.
04:11 I think the responsible state should do it.
04:17 The world is happy with the trigger.
04:21 There is no solution.
04:23 When the situation gets worse, everyone talks about a ceasefire.
04:27 When you are at a ceasefire, the world thinks about what we have done.
04:33 We have destroyed our country.
04:37 I am surprised that in the 21st century,
04:41 the end of history in Ukraine and Europe has come back.
04:47 The 20th century was a curse.
04:53 But history does not do anything.
04:57 These are the decisions of people.
05:01 These are choices.
05:03 If I ask you to put yourself in that position,
05:05 why would Iran do it?
05:07 You are already in a certain environment.
05:11 You have a neighbor like Pakistan.
05:13 Why would Iran do it?
05:15 I cannot translate their thoughts.
05:19 I cannot translate their thoughts.
05:23 I will be very honest.
05:25 I know you are asking this with a sincere heart.
05:29 I did not understand that if they had to take any action,
05:33 they should have done it in their normal theaters.
05:35 What was the need to do it here?
05:39 These skirmishes on our border.
05:41 It is a semi-warm border.
05:45 The border with Balochistan has been very agitated in the past.
05:53 But escalating it to this level,
05:57 I think there are some external factors.
06:01 This is not just a matter of Pakistan.
06:03 They have a problem with everyone.
06:05 They want to send a message.
06:07 I don't know where they are going with this.
06:11 But I think they should have shown restraint.
06:15 They should have thought about what they are doing with their neighbors.
06:19 They should have thought about how divided the Muslim world is.
06:23 How many pieces of it are scattered.
06:27 I don't think anyone can gather alone.
06:31 But to spread more confusion,
06:35 to spread more confusion,
06:41 when we have a severe need in Gaza,
06:43 we have to focus on them instead of each other.
06:45 I am sorry,
06:47 I think they have met their foreign minister.
06:51 He is in touch with the PM.
06:53 We have all kinds of contacts.
06:55 So why and how is this happening?
06:57 They took this issue and said that we will throw missiles.
07:01 There will be no reaction from here.
07:05 If they want to escalate,
07:07 Pakistan will escalate.
07:09 Then there will be a proportionate response.
07:11 But this silence will not be considered a weakness.
07:15 That Pakistan did not react.
07:17 So next time they think they can do it again.
07:21 I think if they consider it a weakness,
07:23 because across the political divide,
07:27 I think they have called it out.
07:31 I think if they think that Pakistan is busy in its elections,
07:39 they are mistaken.
07:41 Pakistan can definitely be multi-tasking.
07:45 And we have never considered restraint a weakness.
07:51 I wrote in the morning that no one should consider this a weakness.
07:55 I think our foreign office should repeat this.
08:01 But we are a nuclear country and we do not want to escalate the issues.
08:07 The threshold for Iran was a friendly country.
08:11 You should walk back that status.
08:15 Because this region is like a burning fire.
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