00:00 Do you believe that the BJP would be able to keep him and his flock happy in these elections?
00:07 Do you see some changes?
00:08 Do you see, if I am not jumping the gun here, Jyotindra Nitish Sindhiya returning to the
00:14 state, returning to Madhya Pradesh?
00:17 No, see what happened is that last time in Gwalior, Chambal, the BJP suffered a rout.
00:25 And most of the MLAs which came with Sindhiya did win the elections, 19 out of 29 sort of.
00:30 However, this time as per surveys, if you see the surveys across surveys, the BJP is
00:35 still particularly not doing well in the Gwalior, Chambal region as per CM Sir.
00:40 They are bastion.
00:41 They are bastion.
00:42 Yeah, so it means that the, or rather it puts the effectiveness of the Sindhiya camp into
00:48 question and that will be analysed post the results because Congress has made it a Sindhiya
00:56 versus the real Congress issue in Gwalior, Chambal.
00:59 So if the Congress is able to still hold on to Gwalior, Chambal, then the efficacy of
01:04 Sindhiya will be questioned in the BJP and that would lead to either better benefits
01:14 or an improvement in status for Sindhiya or a decline in status for Sindhiya depending
01:19 upon how the state goes because Sindhiya did not contest.
01:23 It was rumoured to contest.
01:24 Yes, yes.
01:25 But even from a traditional seat of Shivpuri, he has not contested because the local candidate
01:31 there is fairly strong and Sindhiya has lost a Lok Sabha election.
01:34 He might not have wanted to risk a loss in a Vidhan Sabha election.
01:38 Yes.
01:39 That would have significantly affected.
01:40 Loss of face.
01:41 Correct.
01:42 Absolutely.
01:43 So we will have to see how the results pan out.
01:44 It is too early.
01:45 December 3rd is still far away.
01:46 We are just one and a half hours into the voting.
01:47 But what does it look like?
01:48 Any writing on the wall situation from your perspective?
01:49 See, it is actually, if you ask me any other state, I would say, but this state is actually
01:50 a kaate ki takkar state.
01:51 Kaate ki takkar.
01:52 Bilkul sahi keh rahe hain.
01:53 On all the 230 seats, it is a seat by seat contest.
01:56 36 rebels of BJP, 39 rebels of Congress, and the majority of the seats are for the BJP.
02:07 So, it is a seat by seat contest.
02:14 The BSP and the SP are also flexing their muscles in the Gwalior, Chambal, Bundelkhand
02:20 and the Vindh region.
02:21 I have never seen Akhilesh Yadav having so many rallies in a state other than UP.
02:28 But conceptually, the viewers have to understand that if a contest becomes a seat by seat
02:34 contest, then it is very difficult for a ruling party.
02:39 A ruling party always desires to have a statewide, nationwide, face contest, not a local seat
02:47 by seat contest, because then it is very difficult to control the narrative.
02:51 So, seat by seat is difficult for the incumbent always.
02:55 However, there are strengths and weaknesses in both.
02:57 Shivraj is the strength as well as weakness.
03:00 Him.
03:01 Exactly.
03:02 And similarly, Kamal Nath is the strength because he has the resources and the organizational
03:06 capability.
03:07 But he has the weakness because he is not a mass leader.
03:09 He is not young.
03:10 And he hasn't been in power for too long in the past.
03:13 He has been out of the state.
03:14 Chindwara has not developed a model, but that model has to be replicated elsewhere.
03:21 And so, it's a lot about the local candidates holding sway in their particular regions.
03:27 And the BJP realized this very early and has opted for a seat by seat contest.
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