The Cast of 'Survivor 45' on Twists They Didn't Want to See

Entertainment Weekly

The 'Survivor 45' contestants chat with EW about gameplay elements they didn't want to see in the current season.

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00:00 I'd like some happy twists.

00:01 I'm like, "Hey, well done, you made it.

00:03 We're gonna give you a tarp."

00:04 I'd love that.

00:05 (gentle music)

00:08 - You know the twist I'm not the biggest fan of

00:11 is the idle nullifier.

00:12 And idle is so close to immunity, you know what I mean?

00:15 And there's already so many challenges

00:17 with knowing when to play it and who to play it on

00:19 and playing it correctly.

00:21 I mean, I get it.

00:21 You can have this old idle nullifier

00:23 and it takes even more information for that to be useful.

00:25 And I get that as well.

00:26 But I just feel like at the end of the day,

00:28 we give so much credit to immunity.

00:31 And I just feel like that's the thing.

00:33 Nothing would make me more mad than having earned an idle

00:36 and then having someone use it against me.

00:37 I'd be so pissed.

00:39 - Something I hope that they don't put in our season

00:41 is the knowledge is power.

00:43 I go back and forth whether I like it or not,

00:45 but right now I'm feeling like I don't like it

00:48 as I'm like on the verge of being on the show.

00:51 It's a little different when you're watching it

00:53 and when you're about to go play it.

00:55 - I do not wanna see "Exile Island."

00:57 When people watch the show,

00:58 I don't think they understand

00:59 how much of a disadvantage that is.

01:01 The idea of being away from your tribe for over a night,

01:04 like that literally creates the vacuum of people being like,

01:08 you know what, we're still alive.

01:09 He's not here, but we're doing okay.

01:11 Like, you don't want that.

01:12 You want people to be like,

01:14 I don't know what the hell we're gonna do without Jake here.

01:16 That's what you want.

01:17 And "Exile Island" throws a wrench in that.

01:20 - The birdcage thing, I just hope ends now,

01:23 but it probably won't.

01:24 What I really don't wanna see on my season

01:27 is instead of a merge, a tribe swap before the merge.

01:31 It's just like, oh my God,

01:32 it gives me anxiety thinking about it

01:33 when it's like drop your buffs.

01:34 Just kidding, get another buff

01:36 and you're all on different tribes

01:37 because God forbid I pull the color

01:39 that has that like random ass island

01:42 where you have to build a whole new shelter again.

01:44 Like, that's my nightmare.

01:45 - The knowledge is power advantage

01:47 is so already been gamified to where I feel like,

01:50 you know, the production here really wants it to work.

01:52 So they're gonna try to twist it around

01:54 in a way that's gonna make it play out in the game.

01:56 The times they threw it in,

01:57 it got kind of diffused quickly

01:58 and I can diffuse it quickly.

02:00 I just don't know how we're gonna game around the tweak

02:02 to whatever that is.

02:03 - I'm just gonna go to one that already exists.

02:05 Now we have to complete "Bird Flint."

02:07 Knowing how detrimental fire is in a survival situation

02:12 just from military alone.

02:15 I mean, and we have MREs where you can crack,

02:17 you know, something and it heats up

02:19 and everything like that.

02:20 But just knowing that how important that is.

02:26 I mean, that's your water, that's your bug safety.

02:29 You know, those two things are very, very like,

02:32 imperative for morale.

02:33 - Fake idols, producer-made fake idols.

02:36 Like, it's fine if another player has, you know,

02:38 bested me and has gone the idol

02:41 and has created a fake idol.

02:42 But I think, I think I wanna know

02:45 that that's the only other alternative as a player.

02:47 But you know, who knows?

02:49 - There are a couple challenges

02:50 that I hope are not brought back.

02:52 The survivor smoothie, "Last Gasp."

02:55 That's like, I don't wanna see that one again.

02:58 Not for me.

02:59 All the like, fake idols

03:01 that production's been putting out there,

03:03 I don't wanna see those either.

03:04 Like, let, you know, if people wanna make them, that's fine.

03:07 But I don't wanna see them put into the game.

03:09 - A twist that I do not wanna see on my season

03:11 is a beware advantage, which I know is a really big ask.

03:14 But it's like, when you finally get out there,

03:16 you're looking through the bushes and you find something,

03:18 you want that satisfaction of it being yours

03:21 and yours to use.

03:22 And so I think a beware advantage

03:24 would be a little bit of a bummer if I ran into it.

03:26 When I think about the strategy,

03:27 my mind says to lead somebody else to it,

03:29 have them take it, read it.

03:31 And then, you know, that way the pressure is off of me,

03:34 but the knowledge is still in my pocket.

03:36 - The hourglass, I feel like I have PTSD

03:38 and I didn't even experience that.

03:40 So I really, I would really like to avoid

03:42 like winning a challenge and being like,

03:44 "Oopsies, nevermind, you actually lost."

03:46 That would be like worst nightmare status for me, for sure.

03:50 I guess unless I'm on the other side of it, who knows?

03:52 - I don't wanna see tribe swaps.

03:55 I know it's gonna happen.

03:56 Like I just have a feeling chilling down my spine, my bone.

04:00 You're gonna get so comfortable.

04:01 You're gonna have an alliance.

04:02 You're gonna be all this.

04:03 And then Jeff's gonna be like, "You know what?

04:05 We're gonna swap guys."

04:07 And then everybody's gonna be like, "No!"

04:09 So I definitely don't wanna see that,

04:12 but I think it's coming.

04:13 I think it's gonna come, yeah.

04:14 - Dude, throw everything at me,

04:17 like the food.

04:18 I can get cranky if I haven't eaten.

04:22 Other people that know me know that like if I haven't eaten,

04:25 Dee hasn't eaten, she might get a little cranky.

04:27 I might get a little quiet.

04:29 But again, we're coming into "Survivor."

04:31 I've prepared for this.

04:32 Like I've not eaten for a while to see how I felt.

04:35 And like mentally I'm prepared.

04:37 That's the only thing that I'd say like,

04:39 "Don't leave us without food."

04:40 But anything else, I came into this game

04:44 knowing that I expect to fail.

04:46 I expect to be betrayed.

04:48 I expect to be feeling sad, emotional.

04:51 The only thing that I don't expect is being voted out.

04:53 So I put myself in every single situation.

04:55 I want the season to be like the craziest,

04:58 most dangerous season.

04:59 Like that will excite me.

05:01 Like I wanna jump off like the highest,

05:04 even though it [beep] scares me.

05:05 Like the water scares me and like jumping off heights.

05:08 But I want there to be like that one crazy ass challenge.

05:11 So yeah, I'm just getting excited talking about it.

05:15 - Merge feasts are supposed to be guaranteed.

05:18 If you survive to the merge, you deserve to eat.

05:23 Like I just, I cannot, 'cause then, you know,

05:26 even with all the twists and all the changes,

05:29 you have people who make the merge

05:31 after all of that has happened and they're still there

05:34 and they never got to have their merge feast.

05:36 What, how [beep] up is that?

05:38 Yeah, that's just one thing I hope they don't do.

05:40 I hope we get like a clear, you made the merge,

05:43 you made the merge and you know, there's the spread,

05:45 there's the food and now like re-attack.

05:48 - I really do embrace the twist to a large degree,

05:50 but I wouldn't wanna be like sent off to exile island.

05:53 Like my survivor skills are poor, to be honest.

05:56 My survival skills, not survivor skills,

05:58 but I think I would struggle in exile island.

06:00 I'd be very lonely and sad and I might even have a cry.

06:03 And my hope is that I can stay with, you know,

06:06 the group of very, you know, well-trained teammates

06:09 that I'm gonna have in a couple of days.

06:11 - I'd like some happy twists.

06:12 I'm like, hey, well done, you made it.

06:14 We're gonna give you a tarp.

06:15 I'd love that.

06:16 What else can they do to us?

06:18 We will find out.

06:20 I don't know.

06:21 - I like twists.

06:22 I feel like players who can play a very fluid game

06:26 are able to take advantage of whatever twists happen

06:28 because they can like turn on a dime.

06:30 That said, I think the twist that I don't like,

06:32 I remember like a couple of seasons ago,

06:34 like the tribes split into two and then each of them

06:36 voted one person off within themselves.

06:38 And I know for a player like me,

06:40 that's really tough to get through.

06:41 And what you saw last time when that happened,

06:43 like the players who look like me,

06:44 like the bigger threats, the physical threats,

06:46 they're just booted off.

06:47 So that's something I'm a little bit scared of.

06:48 I'd love to be protected with some sort of idol

06:51 or advantage if that ever happens.

06:53 But yeah, that's a twist I'm nervous about.

06:55 - I have this set up in my mind right now.

06:57 I don't know why I'm fixated on it, but I'm fixated on it.

07:00 I'm convinced they're gonna take away the machete.

07:02 You know, they took away the rice.

07:03 They took away the flint.

07:05 I got it in my mind that we're gonna get out there

07:07 and not even get a machete.

07:08 And I'm terrified of that because I don't like,

07:11 you know, I'm irritated.

07:12 I'm an irritable person.

07:13 Bugs, very irritated, very scared of bugs.

07:16 And I hate the idea of not having the machete

07:17 to at least make some type of rudimentary shelter

07:20 and having to sleep on the ground amongst the bugs

07:23 until I win some challenge to earn my machete,

07:26 as Jeff, I'm sure would put it.

07:28 So I hope that twist or that change does not come,

07:30 but I have this weird sinking feeling

07:33 like that could be a reality for some reason.

07:35 Hopefully I'm wrong.

07:36 - I don't want exile island.

07:38 I got the ability to come to Ponderosa

07:40 after I left my season.

07:41 There's a hut I was in for three days.

07:43 And then, you know, I spent my days down here

07:46 with my glasses and my hat on

07:47 'cause I had a concussion

07:48 just to keep the sunlight out of my eyes.

07:50 There's something different, I believe,

07:52 to having the ability for people to be comfortable

07:57 and then be able to speak about their experience.

08:00 If you're in exile island, you're not comfortable.

08:01 You're like, you're still out there

08:04 trying to fend for yourself and find food and, you know,

08:07 shelter and it's gonna rain on you and all that other stuff.

08:10 Like if you have the ability to sit down with your peers,

08:13 your cast mates, you feel freer, I think,

08:16 to be able to speak about your experience in the game

08:19 and kind of your thought process

08:20 about what happened and, you know,

08:24 who's coming in next and like all that other stuff

08:26 that goes along with it.

08:27 And then sitting down, having a dinner with other people.

08:30 Ponderosa's here for that.

08:33 You get to sit down, have dinner, laugh, BS,

08:36 and wait for the next person to come in.

08:38 (whooshing)

08:40 [BLANK_AUDIO]

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