What is meant by ‘leaving the world’ || Acharya Prashant, on Ashtavakra Gita (2017)

Acharya Prashant

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00:00 Not the right language is being used.

00:25 Leaving what is not that is alright.

00:40 But that leaving is not done with an objective to get joy.

00:55 Had the thing been so transactional that you could leave one thing and as an exchange offer

01:06 get another thing, then everybody would have taken the deal.

01:14 Where joy is so cheap that it came in exchange for this and that, then we all would be full

01:27 of joy.

01:32 This is not exactly what the Ashtakar Gita says.

01:37 There is this mind which wants something.

01:44 The world is an object.

01:48 Whenever you say the world, you do not mean the same thing.

01:54 You mean one thing, he means another thing.

01:58 We use a common word, world, is the world the same in your mind as it is in his mind?

02:10 The world is your favorite set of objects.

02:13 Do you see this?

02:15 What is the world, Pratik?

02:16 The world is what we have created.

02:22 But what is the world?

02:23 Quickly, whenever you say world, what do you mean?

02:27 Particular people, objects.

02:29 And particular people?

02:31 Only very few people.

02:34 What is the world?

02:41 Same world as his world?

02:46 Same world as his world?

02:49 Same country, same religion, whenever we are looking at different people, is that so?

02:57 Same house, same husband, same wife, same job, same bank account?

03:07 Same garments, same language, same preferences?

03:13 Is there anything same in two persons' worlds?

03:21 We all live in our private worlds.

03:26 We all live in our personal worlds.

03:30 I am getting it?

03:35 That is why ordinary communication is so superficial.

03:39 You are using the same word but referring to something else.

03:44 Because your world is different.

03:46 I am assuring you, even when you use the same word, you do not mean the same thing.

03:53 When you say honesty and when he says honesty, you do not mean the same thing.

04:00 That is why there can be no communication or very superficial communication.

04:05 When you say love and when she says love, rest assured you do not mean the same thing.

04:15 If I just say A and ask, please draw A, instead of this, draw anything, draw A and you will

04:25 find all of you are drawing different things.

04:32 Even A means different things.

04:38 So when Ashutosh is saying leave the world, what he is saying is leave this personal thing.

04:47 Leave this sense of limitation.

04:50 Usually when you hear the word world, you think of something very expansive.

04:57 But actually when you look at it, world, the world is a limitation.

05:04 It is not an expanse.

05:06 It is actually a contraction.

05:09 It is a limitation.

05:11 Because your world is a little private world.

05:14 Her world is a little private world.

05:17 So when Ashutosh says leave the world, what does he mean?

05:24 Get rid of your pettiness.

05:27 Why are you acting so small?

05:30 What is this little little thing?

05:37 The same with Shankara when he says this is unreal.

05:41 The world is unreal means the same.

05:44 It is unreal in the sense it is limited.

05:47 In fact, the fact is you don't even have the capacity to accommodate the whole world.

05:56 Even your neighbor's world, forget about the whole world, even your neighbor's world.

06:06 It's impossible.

06:09 You'll have to be that person in order to know his world.

06:13 Even care, we don't have the capacity to care.

06:19 Because I care only about my own world.

06:28 And till the time I live in this personal thing, there can be no meaningful communication.

06:40 Forget about love.

06:41 There can't even be communication.

06:48 That's what Ashutosh is asking to give up.

06:50 You're afraid that the other person's pain will become my pain.

06:57 And I have to react to that.

07:00 If I let him in.

07:06 I will pass away.

07:09 I will become him.

07:16 Such a big problem.

07:22 Then what are we, we don't have the capacity then what are we thinking of?

07:32 Exactly, exactly, exactly.

07:35 So if you are talking about words, somebody's words, you see the problem there.

07:41 You can never relate to someone through words.

07:45 Never.

07:46 Because his world is different.

07:49 Your world is different.

07:56 If ever an alien comes to this earth, completely alien, the only way to talk to the alien would

08:05 be through silence.

08:07 Because his world is anyway totally different.

08:12 No language will succeed.

08:14 Only silence will succeed.

08:18 In that silence, there is communion.

08:22 Only through love can you really talk to someone.

08:25 Otherwise you can't talk.

08:37 You see the uselessness of negotiations and prolonged arguments and discussions.

08:47 We talk so much not because we want to say something.

08:52 We usually talk a lot because we want to hide something.

09:01 You remember that thing about writing questions.

09:03 You don't write because you want to uncover.

09:09 You write because you want to let it remain covered.

09:15 That's also why we talk.

09:17 So that we don't have to really come close.

09:21 You meet somebody and how awkward it is to remain in silence.

09:26 You must talk so that the separation is there.

09:30 Talking maintains that separation.

09:33 That separation must be there.

09:34 So you talk.

09:35 Even if it is a senseless, meaningless talk.

09:36 Some talk.

09:37 Sometimes we feel like being in silence but still we talk.

09:46 We still talk.

09:47 Because it's awkward.

09:48 It's a screaming silence.

09:51 You can't tolerate it.

09:52 Because it seems that our mind has started talking by itself.

10:00 Unbearable.

10:01 So say something.

10:02 Say something about the road, the weather.

10:08 Say something for God's sake.

10:10 How can you be so rude?

10:11 Sir, but why?

10:12 Why do you do this?

10:13 You want to avoid love.

10:14 Love is the death of ego.

10:18 You want to avoid any kind of connection.

10:21 Your entire purpose in life is to avoid love.

10:26 You always think that there is someone not here in space and time which I will meet and

10:32 I will love.

10:33 Even if you do not think that, I want self-preservation.

10:36 I want the preservation of the ego.

10:39 So I must avoid love at all costs.

10:42 Attachment is alright.

10:43 You ask me to be attached, I will be happily attached.

10:46 You ask me to be attracted, I will be happily attracted.

10:49 You ask me for a bodily relationship, I will be very...

10:53 More than happy.

10:54 More than happy for a physical relationship.

10:56 But love, that I cannot tolerate.

11:01 That I cannot tolerate.

11:02 Because you call attachment as love and that's why we are confusing.

11:07 Because we want love.

11:08 We want attachment.

11:10 Attachment feeds the ego.

11:12 Love dissolves the ego.

11:13 They are opposites.

11:15 Attachment feeds the ego.

11:18 And love dissolves the ego.

11:20 So attachment is alright.

11:21 Please let me be attached to you.

11:24 But if really love starts blossoming, you will go away.

11:29 Till the point there is only attachment, you will remain with that person.

11:34 But the day love actually starts, you will find that you are going away from that person.

11:45 You cannot tolerate love.

11:48 And you also cannot tolerate the really lovable.

11:53 He starts getting into you.

11:56 You can be very easily attracted to some mediocre ignorant person.

12:02 But the really lovable, you will be scared of that person.

12:07 That you cannot tolerate.

12:08 You will feel like being with him all the time.

12:09 And you are scared of that.

12:10 You have to lose your life.

12:11 You are gone.

12:18 You will find some excuse.

12:19 You will find some reason.

12:22 You will find some way of maintaining separation.

12:25 But the only actual reason is, my falsenesses must live.

12:36 And in the light of the truth, in the light of love, my fakeness cannot survive.

12:43 For my fakeness to survive, distance is important, separation is important.

12:50 And look at your, look at the, not your, the entire world.

12:56 We say fakeness is more important than love.

13:01 For my disease to continue, I will reject love.

13:11 That's why once he had come, it was a talk in Chennai.

13:16 With great frustration he had said, what a loveless country this is.

13:22 Specifically he chose that word, no other word.

13:24 It was a loveless country.

13:25 You do not know love.

13:29 Attachment is great.

13:30 You have huge families.

13:32 And when he spoke these words, the family size was even larger.

13:39 Great attachment to each other.

13:42 No love.

13:43 No love.

13:44 You do not know what love is.

13:48 You feel like parasites upon each other without knowing love.

13:52 Now this can be a good testing ground.

14:01 Like for example, you are sitting in silence and but you feel like talking.

14:09 This means this is not love, this is actually attachment.

14:19 With others, you want to chat using words.

14:25 It is a proof that you do not love the other person.

14:30 And when you are with yourself, then you want to chat with yourself using thoughts.

14:36 It is a proof that there is no love for yourself.

14:40 No self love.

14:43 The person who cannot be alone, who always needs thoughts, will never be able to hence

14:51 love anybody.

14:53 When he is with himself, he will think.

14:56 And when he is with others, he will just chat and gossip.

15:03 First thing, when you are with yourself, please love yourself.

15:07 Please accept yourself.

15:09 Do not engage yourself in thought.

15:13 Have a loving relationship with yourself.

15:17 And silence is your loving relationship with yourself.

15:22 Silence is that.

15:26 We have talked enough of that.

15:34 It is not about control.

15:43 But when you are talking so much, you feel you are on good terms with that person.

15:47 That's our usual reaction, right?

15:50 If two fellows are talking a lot, what do we feel?

15:54 They must be friends.

15:57 It only means they are uncomfortable with each other.

16:00 Otherwise, what is the need to talk so much?

16:04 But if you won't talk, your wife will say, he doesn't talk to me.

16:12 Friends will say you have changed.

16:13 You are not interested in us.

16:15 That's why you don't talk.

16:26 Some people use not talking as punishment.

16:29 In my Inla's house, my mother-in-law used to say, her relative, used to punish the girls

16:39 by not talking.

16:40 Why not?

16:41 Not only girls, anybody.

16:43 In general, you use this as your show of disapproval.

16:50 I do not like you, so I will not talk to you.

16:54 Silence means tolerance.

16:57 Talk and listen.

17:04 But even that silence of punishment is actually thoughts.

17:08 It's thoughts.

17:09 It's not at all silence.

17:10 Not at all silence.

17:11 Well said.

17:12 Sitting side by side, you may not be trading words, but you are dealing in thoughts.

17:20 And more severe thoughts, more intense thoughts.

17:28 You may not be communicating to me through words, but it is written upon your face.

17:34 You're thinking of me all the time, even if in hatred, but I am the object of your thought.

17:40 Is that silence?

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