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Ahead of Antony Blinken's visit to Israel today, DW Washington Bureau Chief Ines Pohl talked to Nathan Tek, Deputy Spokesman at the US Department of State, about the United States' plans to press for a humanitarian pause in the Israel-Hamas war.

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00:00 Thank you so much for making time for Deutsche Welle.
00:02 Thank you so much.
00:03 Glad to be here.
00:04 So the US administration is seeking a pause in the fighting between Israel and Hamas.
00:10 How can the US government influence Prime Minister Netanyahu, who doesn't seem to slow
00:15 down?
00:16 Well, just to clarify, what we're looking for is not just a single pause, but rather
00:19 pauses.
00:20 And in fact, as my colleague Matt Miller, the department spokesperson, has noted before,
00:24 we have seen in effect de facto pauses in the past to ensure, for example, that humanitarian
00:29 aid can enter in via truck through the Rafah gate into Gaza.
00:34 And at the same time, we've seen pauses to ensure that American hostages can get released
00:39 and leave Gaza as well.
00:40 So our goal when we say humanitarian pause is to ensure that military operations do not
00:45 interfere with the delivery of humanitarian assistance to the civilians who need it, do
00:50 not interfere with the release of hostages or with the exit of foreign nationals stuck
00:55 in Gaza who are just trying to go home.
00:57 So is Prime Minister Netanyahu kind of listening to the wishes of the US government?
01:05 Well, look, at the end of the day, we enjoy a very strong relationship with Israel.
01:09 And that strong relationship allows us to be in a position to offer our Israeli friends
01:13 advice and the best practices of our own experience in fighting terrorism.
01:18 And that's exactly what we're doing.
01:20 We are making clear to the Israelis that as democracies, we have a responsibility to take
01:24 every measure to ensure that human life is preserved, civilian life is preserved, that
01:29 the international humanitarian law is respected and protected.
01:33 Unfortunately, by the way, it's just important to note that Hamas, of course, has shown no
01:37 regard for international humanitarian law.
01:39 So the burden is not solely on Israel here.
01:42 It's in fact important to note that Israel is responding to a despicable, brutal terrorist
01:47 attack that took place on October 7th.
01:49 No country, no sovereign country would accept or do nothing in the face of that kind of
01:54 an attack.
01:55 And Israel is simply exercising the right it has and the obligation it has to defend
01:58 itself.
02:00 The Arab Muslim community here in the United States is raising concerns, frustration about
02:08 President Biden being in such strong support of Prime Minister Netanyahu.
02:12 And some are saying, no, we won't vote for him again next year.
02:16 What does that mean for the president?
02:18 Well, we don't do politics here at the State Department, but there's certainly no question,
02:22 as I said before, the United States is a diverse and vibrant democracy.
02:25 People have a wide range of views and they exercise those views at the ballot box.
02:29 I think what's important also to note is that, of course, we have lots of friends and partners
02:33 in the Arab world and the Muslim world overseas.
02:36 We've engaged in robust, almost daily conversations with our partners in the Arab world about
02:40 this issue.
02:41 And we're grateful for those relationships that we have.
02:43 And we're going to continue to work with allies and partners, including countries like Egypt,
02:48 Jordan, Qatar and others, to ensure that we can protect Palestinian civilians and ensure
02:53 that Israel maintains its right to exist and defend itself.
02:56 Secretary of State Blinken is right now traveling in this region.
03:00 How big is the fear that the conflict spreads and might also bring terrorism back to the
03:06 United States?
03:07 Well, our goal, of course, is to stop this conflict from spiraling, from spreading.
03:12 Hamas is doing everything it can to pull in other regional countries to destabilize the
03:18 entire Middle East.
03:19 We, of course, firmly oppose that.
03:21 And part of the reason why this is the Secretary's, I believe, third trip in just a matter of
03:25 a few weeks to the region is because he is so firmly committed to doing everything we
03:29 can using the tools of diplomacy to ensure that this conflict does not spread throughout
03:33 the region.
03:34 What does this conflict in Israel mean for the conflict, for the war in Ukraine?
03:39 Well, as we like to say in the United States, we can walk and chew gum at the same time.
03:42 We can do two things at the same time.
03:45 We're a great nation.
03:46 And we've got great partnerships and alliances around the world as well.
03:49 The United States will continue to provide Ukraine with what it needs to do what it takes
03:53 to defend itself from Russia's brutal, unprovoked and illegal further invasion.
03:59 Our goal continues to be to provide Ukraine with what it needs militarily, diplomatically
04:04 and economically to ensure that it can defend its own sovereignty.
04:07 We have not forgotten Ukraine.
04:09 Ukraine is still at the top of the agenda.
04:10 And even with the new Speaker in the House, who kind of is saying pretty much the opposite
04:15 from what you are saying, what would be your message to Ukrainians?
04:18 Can Ukrainians rely on the United States?
04:22 The Ukrainians can absolutely rely on the United States.
04:25 President Biden has made that clear.
04:26 Secretary Blinken has made that clear.
04:28 And Ukraine can also appreciate the fact that we built a very strong set of alliances, strengthened
04:34 NATO like it's never been strengthened before, and a broad coalition of countries, over 50
04:40 countries in fact, who are working to provide Ukraine with what it needs to defend its sovereignty.
04:44 Thank you very much.
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