00:00 "You won't believe what's just happened."
00:01 And I'm like, "What's the matter now?"
00:03 And he's like, "Well, you know I said the bar's weird."
00:05 I was like, "Yeah."
00:06 He says, "I kid you not."
00:07 He says, "I'm literally closing the pub up,
00:10 "shutting the windows and everything."
00:12 He said, "I've had this almighty crash."
00:14 - South Yorkshire certainly has its fair share
00:17 of ghost tales, and this community pub
00:19 found on the Rotherham side of the border with Sheffield
00:22 is no exception.
00:24 The Wintergreen is a relatively new pub
00:26 on the recently developed Waverley Estate,
00:29 and despite just opening in the last decade,
00:32 it has already had paranormal investigators in twice,
00:35 both of whom have reported the same ghostly family of four
00:39 who are said to have perished in a great fire
00:42 in years past.
00:43 - We had a stool incident.
00:45 So we've got where the bar seating area is.
00:50 Again, woo-woo, alarms off middle at night,
00:52 you're thinking, "What's going on?"
00:53 You come down and investigate,
00:54 and you think it's the double doors to the garden
00:56 that haven't been shut properly.
00:57 Do all your checks, everything's fine.
00:59 You're thinking, "What's made this happen?"
01:01 So looked on CCTV footage, the stool clearly moves,
01:05 and then something on the bar flips down
01:07 as though somebody's, and you see a whoosh.
01:10 You see like a white shadow go from the stool
01:12 over the bar, and everything, it just flips everything
01:15 in its way, and then it just smashes,
01:17 it literally just turns this thing over on the bar.
01:19 (audience laughing)
01:20 Okay.
01:21 So yeah, we've got that kind of footage as well.
01:25 It's always around the bar area.
01:26 It's as though they like to play around the bar area.
01:28 It never happens anywhere in the corners.
01:30 It's always around the bar.
01:32 So regarding the pool table incident,
01:34 obviously, middle at night, alarm goes off.
01:37 On the control panel, it said zone three,
01:39 so we're thinking, "Okay."
01:41 So I come downstairs to investigate,
01:42 to find out if it's a break-in or anything like that.
01:46 I think there's no windows, so it can't be
01:49 the wind rattling the doors or anything like that.
01:51 It's got to be something else.
01:52 So I come downstairs, and I'm looking around,
01:54 and I can't see anything.
01:55 The only thing I can see is the pool balls
01:58 on the actual table.
02:00 So I thought, "Okay, nothing's untoward
02:03 "or anything like that."
02:05 Goes back to bed, sets the alarm,
02:07 gets up in the morning a bit curious,
02:08 thinking, "What actually went off?"
02:11 So go from the office, does my own procedures,
02:13 checks the CCTV footage, and I'm like,
02:15 "Oh, that's what happened."
02:17 So you can clearly see that there's no one there.
02:20 You can clearly see that the balls are on the table,
02:22 and it's as though somebody's got the finger
02:23 and bringing it along, and then it speeds up
02:25 as though they've done like a swoosh,
02:27 and you can see the ball, and then the ball
02:29 just stops dead before the pocket.
02:31 But if it was gonna go in the pocket,
02:32 it'd go in the pocket to get away.
02:33 It just literally rolls and stops,
02:35 builds momentum, stops.
02:37 You're like, "Okay, what was that?"
02:41 Sometimes we have incidents where the lights
02:43 swing on the bar, and you're just thinking,
02:45 "Okay."
02:46 We've had the situation where the car sign
02:48 has illuminated really light, gone down to almost a dimmer,
02:51 then come back on, and you get a cold shudder
02:53 through your spine, like, "What was that?"
02:56 We've had incidents where chairs have just moved,
02:59 and when you look on the CCTV footage,
03:00 it looks like there's a child underneath the chair
03:02 playing with a toy.
03:04 But when you zoom in, you can clearly see no one's there.
03:06 It's just a shadow.
03:07 - The male ghost has affectionately been named Derek
03:11 by staff at the Wintergreen.
03:13 Derek is clearly fond of a late-night play
03:17 with inanimate pub objects like the pool ball and glass,
03:21 but numerous members of staff working late
03:23 have reported being physically touched
03:26 by a seemingly invisible hand,
03:27 including one being gripped around the back of the neck.
03:31 - So Derek is just the name we give the ghost.
03:34 Don't know why we call him Derek.
03:37 But we've had paranormal investigators here
03:40 that said there's a lot of activity.
03:42 They was talking to me about a family,
03:45 and they said something about a lady, a man, and two kids
03:48 that was living in a house nearby,
03:50 and they was the servants.
03:51 There was a great fire, and they all perished in the fire.
03:54 And we then got told that she gave us the names,
03:59 this paranormal activity gave us the name
04:01 of the woman and the kids.
04:03 And then when the paranormal activity,
04:06 they named the kids completely.
04:07 We looked through history.
04:08 We couldn't find anything to do with this family
04:11 or this fire.
04:12 But then a local historian got in contact with me
04:15 and went, "Actually, she's got the words
04:17 "the wrong way around.
04:18 "It's actually called this house."
04:19 So say it was called the White House.
04:21 It was the House of White,
04:22 but she got it the wrong way around.
04:24 And he said, "Yes, there was a great fire.
04:25 "There was a woman, there was two kids."
04:28 He literally described exactly
04:30 what the paranormal activity lady said.
04:32 And there was this great fire,
04:33 and the family perished and all this.
04:34 And when we had the footage from the stool moving
04:38 and the child underneath the chair,
04:41 he like, apparently, she was talking about this little boy
04:44 who was about five or six,
04:45 what was playing with a little wooden toy train.
04:48 And you can actually see on the footage
04:50 that there is a little boy playing
04:51 with a wooden, like, a toy.
04:52 So we didn't know if she'd watched the footage
04:55 and then told us, but it all matched a little bit
04:58 to weird, if that makes sense.
05:00 She also said that there was a man
05:02 what was carrying a miner's lamp.
05:06 And she says it's an old man wearing a flat cap
05:08 with a denim waistcoat.
05:09 So we were like, well, that could be any man
05:11 what works down a mine.
05:12 But yeah, she says he's swinging the lamp
05:15 'cause he's checking.
05:16 He's some kind of foreman what checks for something.
05:19 And he likes swinging lamps.
05:20 And obviously, when we've got the lights swinging
05:22 on the bar, we're like, is Derek playing with the lights
05:24 'cause he's checking the lights?
05:25 It's just, maybe you put two and two together
05:27 and you come up with 10,
05:28 but the stories just match everything.
05:31 And like the darts as well.
05:32 When we leave the darts out,
05:33 they always get swiped off the side
05:36 'cause at the other side of the pool table,
05:38 the dart board, sometimes we leave the darts in a cup.
05:41 Now, we can't explain why a pint pot,
05:43 for no reason, would fall over
05:45 and the darts fall out and then the darts move.
05:47 So we always said Derek likes to play darts.
05:50 He's a typical old bloke that likes a pint and darts.
05:53 So things like that happen where we're like,
05:55 we're trying to make it fun and not make it scary.
05:58 And so Derek's just an old coal miner
05:59 who likes a pint and a game of darts
06:01 or a game of pool or something like that.
06:04 But yeah, when she said he likes to swing his lights,
06:06 I'm like, oh, the lights move all the time.
06:09 It's just, it's two coincidences, if you get what I mean.
06:11 Then we've had another set of paranormal people in
06:15 and she had to leave 'cause she says
06:16 there were that many voices talking to her.
06:19 But again, you don't know if it's true or not.
06:22 She said there were that many voices trying to talk to her.
06:25 In particular, one old man that used to work down the mines.
06:27 And you're just thinking, well,
06:29 everybody knows this were built on a mine.
06:30 So if they are pulling that kind of information,
06:33 you've got to be skeptical as well as believe it,
06:35 aren't you, really?
06:36 So, but yeah, but two different people
06:39 that have never met each other
06:40 described the exact same bloke.
06:42 And we never put the footage,
06:44 we never put the story out there,
06:45 what the paranormal activity said.
06:47 So the first people said it was this guy
06:49 in a denim waistcoat.
06:51 Six months later, a woman that drove up from Dorset
06:54 comes to do a paranormal activity,
06:57 describes the exact same man.
06:58 They've never met, they've never spoke,
07:00 as far as we're aware.
07:01 It just seems a bit weird that they're coming up
07:03 with the same stories, but who knows?
07:05 Who knows if Derek's a miner?
07:07 - It's certainly a bizarre story for a relatively new pub
07:12 here in Rotherham, but certainly not something
07:15 that is unheard of in the great county of Yorkshire.
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