Olivia Rodrigo Rates Heartbreak, High Heels, and Going To Therapy

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Olivia Rodrigo rates the depths of heartbreak, the power of high heels, being a teenager and more on this edition of Over/Under.

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00:00 Bacon.

00:01 I mean, bacon's perfectly rated.

00:04 I feel like bacon has the reputation that it does

00:07 because it's just so amazing.

00:08 Put it in anything.

00:09 Makes it so much better.

00:11 [drumming]

00:13 I mean, heartbreak actually,

00:17 I'm actually gonna have to go with underrated.

00:19 I feel like if I never endured any heartbreak in my life,

00:21 I wouldn't be half of the person that I am today

00:23 and I wouldn't know myself near as well

00:27 or have really any of my songs.

00:29 So, underrated.

00:31 [drumming]

00:35 Performing live on awards shows

00:36 is the scariest thing ever.

00:38 I feel really lucky to do it,

00:40 but maybe overrated just 'cause it's so terrifying.

00:42 Truly, before I perform anything like that,

00:45 I'm visibly shaking like a little chihuahua,

00:49 fighting the urge to vomit.

00:50 I'm so scared.

00:52 [drumming]

00:53 Mustaches are so underrated.

00:56 I think mustaches are the cutest thing ever.

00:58 I think guys with mustaches are so cute.

01:01 It's a very specific one.

01:02 I just love it.

01:03 I think it's amazing.

01:05 [kissing]

01:06 [drumming]

01:07 Ooh, gosh, that's a tough one.

01:10 Being a teenager is so overrated,

01:13 but the second I turned 20, I was like,

01:15 "Aww, but I miss my teenage years."

01:18 I don't know, there's a little bit of that,

01:19 but I'd have to say overrated

01:20 'cause it does suck a lot of the time.

01:22 [drumming]

01:24 Being in your 20s.

01:25 Overrated or underrated.

01:27 I've been 20 for like nine months,

01:29 so I don't know if I understand the full breadth

01:31 of what it means to be in your 20s,

01:34 but so far, so good, so underrated.

01:36 [drumming]

01:38 [sighing]

01:41 Overrated?

01:42 I haven't been in a rom-com phase lately.

01:44 I like watching the most depressing, sad movies

01:47 where there's no plot whatsoever.

01:49 That's my fave for now.

01:50 I mean, there is a plot.

01:52 The movie "Close," it's this,

01:54 I think it's like Belgian or something.

01:56 It was just nominated for a bunch of awards.

01:58 That was so good.

01:59 I love the movie "Tar."

02:00 So good.

02:01 I don't know, but I do love everything.

02:03 I love movies.

02:04 I don't know.

02:05 I do love rom-coms.

02:06 [drumming]

02:08 Writing fan fiction is underrated.

02:10 I definitely developed some of my

02:13 narrative writing skills that way.

02:15 But maybe posting them on online forums is maybe overrated

02:21 'cause I don't know if you'll want that up there forever.

02:25 [drumming]

02:27 Ooh, "Making Out" is underrated.

02:29 "Making Out" is the best.

02:31 Love it.

02:32 What's not to love?

02:33 [drumming]

02:34 High heels are so overrated.

02:36 So overrated.

02:37 Don't love 'em, but it is what it is.

02:39 Sometimes it makes a dress look better, but overrated.

02:42 [drumming]

02:44 Going to therapy is so underrated.

02:46 The most underrated thing ever.

02:47 I feel like there's such a stigma that

02:50 if you're generally pretty happy and stable

02:53 that you shouldn't waste your time going to therapy.

02:55 And I always kind of thought that,

02:56 but I'm pretty okay and neurotypical,

03:00 and going to therapy has just changed my life in every way.

03:03 So I think very underrated.

03:06 Highly recommend.

03:08 [drumming]

03:09 Underrated.

03:11 I love American Girl dolls.

03:13 They shaped me as a person so much.

03:18 I had the girl of the year, Lainey.

03:24 I forget, I think it was like 2012 or something.

03:27 She had this curly hair and she was an environmentalist.

03:30 And I just remember being 10 years old

03:32 and being so obsessed with this doll

03:34 and being convinced that I was going to

03:36 cure every ailment that the world had through this doll.

03:40 And yeah, I don't know.

03:42 It's just very inspiring.

03:43 It's a good thing for kids to be into, I think.

03:47 [drumming]

03:48 Can we go back to the other D-Racks?

03:50 You guys, sequel was never as good as the original.

03:52 Never.

03:53 (drum beat)

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