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00:00 I think you're, I think you're probably right.
00:05 I mean, I think the big edge, if you really wanted to bet the New York Knicks right now
00:11 would be that they can put together a great package for the big man who lives right down
00:18 the road in Philadelphia.
00:20 I don't think Joel Embiid has it in him to waste another year of his prime trying to
00:26 figure out if his quote unquote superstar teammate is going to play and going to be
00:30 giving full effort.
00:31 James Harden has asked to be traded away from the 76ers, the front office for the
00:36 Philadelphia 76ers.
00:38 I mean, look, we know exactly what these guys are going to do.
00:41 We just saw them do it.
00:42 They are going to get every last little bit of value.
00:47 They are not going to, I mean, look, that is just, that's the way this front office
00:50 was in Houston.
00:52 That's the way that they're going to be in Philadelphia.
00:55 They are not going to give in to James Harden demands, but that creates a situation
01:01 where Joel Embiid is looking at Dara Mourey and the front office and saying, what's
01:07 going on here?
01:08 I'm 30 years old.
01:09 I don't have the luxury of taking a wasted season here.
01:13 I can't win 46 games.
01:15 I can't be a playing team.
01:17 I can't be the five seed.
01:19 And there's been a lot of speculation that the Knicks are now in the phase of their
01:25 development where, or the phase of their development where Damian Lillard doesn't do
01:29 anything for you.
01:30 James Harden doesn't do anything for you.
01:32 You've got some good guards.
01:33 You got quickly, you got Grimes, you got Jalen Brunson who played at an all-star
01:37 level.
01:38 The move you need to make is the superstar move.
01:41 You need to be pushing your chips in for a top five player, a top 10 player, not a top
01:47 15, not a top 20 player.
01:48 And the Knicks have all these picks.
01:50 They have all these tradable contracts.
01:52 They could give Julius Randle back in the deal.
01:54 In fact, they would, I think they would love to give Julius Randle back in this
01:58 trade.
01:58 That is the one scenario that makes the Knicks season way different is if Dara
02:04 Mourey just throws his hands up and says, look, if Embiid and Harden are both not
02:08 happy, it's time to, it's time to reenter the process.
02:11 I don't know.
02:12 What do you think?
02:12 Am I, am I crazy here?
02:13 Do you think there's any chance that this happens?
02:18 Well, here's the thing.
02:19 If you look at the whole situation at James Harden and just kind of revisit this
02:22 folks, when he took less money last year, it was to allow him to re-sign or I should
02:30 sign PJ Tucker.
02:31 And the reason why they did this is because he, I think he had some kind of
02:36 agreement with Dara Mourey that he was going to opt out and either get max money
02:40 or a ton of money moving forward.
02:43 Well, Dara Mourey decided that he's not going to honor that agreement.
02:47 So now we're in a situation where James Harden wants to get treated.
02:49 The problem is, is James Harden did a walk year.
02:52 So what are you going to give him?
02:53 But Dara Mourey is playing a game of chicken with James Harden because he knows
02:57 in a walk year, is James Harden going to turn around and not be a all in teammate?
03:03 If he's not, then that's the issue right then and there is he hurt his own value as
03:11 a free agent after the 23-24 season.
03:14 So you have this situation where it's a game of chicken.
03:17 Now Joel Embiid is sitting there saying, what do we do?
03:20 Because now you have Harden and Tobias Harris on the last year of the deals.
03:24 Could they leave after this year and you go get a Paul George or Kawhi Leonard if
03:31 they opt out of their deal with the Clippers, which I think they both are going
03:34 to do by the way.
03:34 Yes.
03:36 But if you're Embiid, what are you looking for?
03:39 So I think this is something that's going to be pretty interesting is watching this
03:44 whole Joel Embiid situation with Philadelphia.
03:47 I think you have to look at Giannis' situation, a little bit Milwaukee.
03:51 But the one big situation I think needs to be watching if you're talking about a
03:56 forward is Pascal Siakam.
03:59 That is the guy that needs to be talked about now because he is going to probably
04:05 be moved.
04:05 Toronto's got to do it.
04:07 If you look at a team like Toronto, Davis, and let's be honest, OG Ananobi,
04:12 Presa Sicuia, Scotty Barnes, Pascal Siakam.
04:16 Those are four starters for two spots.
04:20 One's got to go.
04:22 Maybe even two.
04:23 While you're not trading Scotty Barnes, you're not going to get a ton of value for
04:26 Presa Sicuia.
04:27 So now it's OG Ananobi or it's Pascal Siakam.
04:31 One of those two has to be moved here in order to bring something back.
04:36 So the Atlanta deal, which I'm not mistaken, involved DeAndre Hunter and
04:41 Pieces.
04:41 I'm going to tell you this right now.
04:43 And Joe Fries is our producer.
04:45 Him and I are Knick fans and we watch a lot of Basel.
04:48 We compare stuff all the time.
04:49 I don't make that trade if I'm Atlanta.
04:53 And I know Toronto rejected it.
04:57 I think DeAndre Hunter is one of the most underrated 3 and D guys in the NBA.
05:03 And if you look at this team with DeJounte Murray and Trey Young, they don't need
05:09 another 20 point a game guy that is a point forward that takes the ball out of
05:14 Trey's hands and takes the ball to DeJounte Murray's hands.
05:16 What does Atlanta need?
05:18 A guy that can defend, not need the ball and shoot threes.
05:23 That is a guy like DeAndre Hunter.
05:27 So when you look at them at 30 to 1, I don't know if I like them at that spot.
05:32 All right.
05:32 But what I do like, and I do like them to go over their team total and I like the
05:38 Raptors to go under their team total for the 23-24 NBA season.
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