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ADNAN OKTAR: Welcome, you do us an honor. We are delighted that you have come. Masha’Allah.
Yes, please introduce our guest.
- Richard Giragosian is an American Armenian. He is currently living in Armenia and is the director of a think tank.
ADNAN OKTAR: Excellent. In Ottoman times we used to refer to the Armenians as ‘the loyal nation.’You are a part of us. We love you very dearly. There were Armenian artists and doctors in Ottoman times. We had Armenian generals, very high-ranking. They were very dear to us, but they tried to set us against one another. We will put that right, however and return to the fine days of the past.
We would like to hear what you have to say. Please go ahead.
RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: My work with the Turkish government as well is in support of normalizing relations.
ADNAN OKTAR: Excellent, that is a very honorable task.
RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: It is also the way forward with a spirit of sincerity and humanity.
ADNAN OKTAR: That is what reason and good conscience require.
RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: And we have a shared history together and a shared future. Insha’Allah.
ADNAN OKTAR: Insha’Allah. We hope to see you in Turkey again. We hope you will be everywhere once again. We will open the border to Armenia. We do not want visas and passports. They are our brothers. We will enjoy those fine and joyous days until the Reckoning.
I think he speaks some Turkish.
RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: Of course.
ADNAN OKTAR: Excellent, excellent,masha’Allah. MayGod grant you success in your work and smooth your path. You are on an auspicious, blessed and pleasant road. We wish to help you with all our strength.
RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: What is also important in this time of violence is that we are solving common problems based on peace and friendship.
ADNAN OKTAR: There is this savagery and lovelessness in the world. It is amazing how little people love one another. Those who love people and who love God will eliminate this scourge. People who loveGod and other people are rapidly coming together, and they are the real power in the world. Love will rule the world once they combine together. Peace will govern the world.
RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: And with the spiritual foundation for this leadership.
ADNAN OKTAR: Of course. I think I will learn valuableinformation from you. You say great things as you speak, and that open our hearts. We wish to listen to you.
RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN:Well, fortunately I have met twice with former President Gul, met Prime Minister AhmetDavutoglu. There is a new sincerity to move forward and to be less prisoners of hatred or the past.
ADNAN OKTAR: There is no reason for hatred. And there is no logic to it. The Armenians are fine people. They are artistic and intelligent. They always treated us with love and affection in Ottoman times. A devilish power set us against one another, but satan is about to be defeated right now.
RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: What is also important is, we are overcoming the ignorance, the lack of spirituality the threat of terrorism, but we are overcoming these obstacles together.
ADNAN OKTAR: Excellent. Yes,AhmetDavutoglu is a highly wise person, and very sincere. His heart is like that of a child. Since he is very honest your relations with him are quite correct, and I think it would be a good idea to improve them even further. He is full of love, and someone whom everyone can trust.
RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: And like today’s discussion, offers wisdom.
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, he attaches great importance to spiritual matters and to love. He values affection and compassion. He concentrates on the most vital human aspects.
RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: Like tonight.
ADNAN OKTAR:Masha’Allah,masha’Allah. Of course, we are delighted to see you here. This is one of the portents that we will enjoy fine times with our Armenian brothers. But we need to accelerate the process. It has slowed down a bit. It was quite fast previously, but then satanic forces got involved. And that spoiled the outcomes. There was an interruption. If we ask AhmetDavutoğlu, and this is what President Erdogan thinks, too, the border with Armenia can be opened up very quickly. It is very important for us for our Armenian brothers to return to Turkey. It is very important for them to be in Turkey. We want to share that joy, and we want the borders to be lifted, and visas and passports to be done away with.
RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: And we also have diplomatic relations to be established; getting to know one another once again.
ADNAN OKTAR: It is very important to step this up. I have a request to make of you, and of the prime minister. This can be done in a matter of months. There is an unnecessary loss of time. There is no reason for it. It would be useful to bring this fine thing about at once.
RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: And the longer we wait, the more difficult it becomes.
ADNAN OKTAR: It has entered an unnec
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