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00:00There was a trailer over on Buck Mountain Road.

00:05I want to say probably about 25 yards off the road.

00:09It's a really secluded place.

00:12On Friday, November 13th,

00:15he said he was going to take me there,

00:16but I'm scared to go anywhere with him

00:18that's not anywhere in town

00:20or with people that can witness.

00:24There's no neighbors.

00:26The way the property was set up,

00:27there was no way you could see anything from the road.

00:30So once you got back there,

00:32you were out there mercy.

00:34There was nobody coming to save you.

00:37Nobody would hear you.

00:39If you got brought out there, that was it.

00:42There was no walking away from that.

01:00On November 17th, 2015,

01:22Virginia Rodriguez celebrated her birthday.

01:24Every single year, no matter what,

01:27their son, Pepe, would always reach out to his mother.

01:31Pepe was a good-looking guy, 56 years old.

01:35Pepe's real name is Jose Horan.

01:37He was from New Jersey,

01:39but he had moved to Pennsylvania

01:41because a friend had told him,

01:43hey, maybe I can use you out here.

01:45Maybe you can help out.

01:46I got a place for you to stay.

01:48But that year, he didn't reach out to her.

01:52Virginia Rodriguez,

01:53she was somewhat frantically calling him

01:55constantly on his cell phone,

01:57and it was going right to voicemail.

01:59He stopped all communication with family.

02:01There would never be a time or circumstance

02:05that would take him away

02:08from his mother and his daughter.

02:11Virginia Rodriguez told law enforcement

02:14that the last time she had talked to her son

02:17was on November 13th of 2015.

02:20That was Friday the 13th.

02:22I was a supervisor of a homicide unit

02:26with the Pennsylvania State Police for 17 years.

02:28When we got this call about this investigation,

02:32I think investigators early on,

02:34they knew there was more to it.

02:37I was working a cold case,

02:39and my supervisor wanted us to drop everything

02:42and move forward on this new information

02:45that was coming in.

02:46We just started hitting the ground,

02:48started talking to anybody

02:50that would tell us something.

02:51We'd listen.

02:52We'd follow that lead.

02:53Talk to somebody else.

02:54We're also looking into,

02:56did Pepe use his passport,

02:59and did he passport out of the country?

03:01You know, all those things,

03:02and all of them kept coming back negative.

03:06At this point, we knew that Pepe took a chance,

03:09and he moved to Weatherly.

03:11So law enforcement had about a month window

03:15from October up until November 13th.

03:18Then all of a sudden, he's gone, vanished.

03:24We couldn't find that he was on the face of the earth anymore.

03:31Weatherly Borough sits in the northeast PA,

03:33right on the outside of Poconos.

03:35It sits kind of secluded out in the middle of nowhere.

03:40It's three and a half square miles.

03:42Got about 2,500 residents.

03:44So it's a very tight-knit community.

03:47People know everybody.

03:51The town, it kind of has that hills have eyes

03:54or that creepy feeling

03:55where it kind of feels like somebody's always watching.

04:02Just outside of Weatherly

04:04is where it runs in the Foster Township.

04:06It's woods, hundreds and hundreds of acres of woods.

04:09And then there's the stone couch.

04:16Sits on Buck Mountain Road.

04:18It's a rock that looks like a couch.

04:21They say if you sit on the couch,

04:23the first time, bad luck will happen to you.

04:26The second time, somebody that you know will die.

04:30And the third time, you'll die.

04:34I wouldn't dare sit on that couch.

04:35On August 6, 2016,

04:45a little over a year since Pepe had gone missing.

04:50It was around 2 o'clock in the morning.

04:53I received a phone call from my chief.

04:55It said that we had a large fire in town.

04:57It jolts me.

04:58It wakes you right up.

05:00I jump out of bed, grab some clothes,

05:02jump in the vehicle.

05:02A bunch of residents have called

05:06and said there's a house on fire on 3rd Street.

05:08And we didn't really know what was going on.

05:11Everything was burning.

05:15I remember the heat being so intense.

05:18I could feel the left side of my face starting to blister.

05:21That's how hot it was.

05:23You could smell the shingles burning,

05:26the sting in your nose.

05:27It's the asphalt smell.

05:28You could smell the vinyl siding burning.

05:32It was a lot worse than I expected when I got there.

05:36There were three houses that were on fire.

05:40But by the grace of God,

05:42everybody got out without any serious injuries.

05:46So we had an accelerant sniffing dog,

05:48and the dog definitely hit on some areas

05:50that were deemed to have accelerants on him.

05:53It was arson.

05:53I told my officers to start doing interviews,

05:56talking to neighbors.

05:57We need to go at it and figure out

05:59who started it, how they started it,

06:01why they started it.

06:04That morning after the fire,

06:06while we were doing this investigation,

06:08I found out that Roberto Corner

06:10owned the property on 3rd Street.

06:13He was in his late 40s, confident.

06:15He's about as wide as he is tall.

06:17This is what we're doing today,

06:19taking it down caveman style,

06:20one piece at a time.

06:22So of course I love my job.

06:25Wouldn't you?

06:26Roberto Corner was a well-known name in the area.

06:30He was really integrating himself

06:32from being an outsider

06:33into this small community

06:35by wanting to be involved in politics,

06:37wanting to be involved with local government,

06:40buy properties,

06:41fix them up,

06:42be friends with the chief of police,

06:44be friends with the mayor,

06:45maybe run for mayor himself.

06:50I asked Rob several times

06:52if he had anything to do with the fire,

06:54if he set the fire,

06:55and he adamantly says he did not.

06:58He said he had nothing to do with it.

07:00So speaking with Corner,

07:01just asking him basic questions,

07:03if he had insurance on it,

07:05if he knew what happened,

07:06if he had any problems with anybody.

07:10My officer started by looking at every single house

07:12to see if there was any type

07:13of surveillance camera on it.

07:15A couple blocks away,

07:17they found a security camera.

07:19I noticed there was this white Mitsubishi eclipse

07:23with a big spoiler on the back

07:25that stuck out.

07:26It was very distinctive,

07:28and I'm not sure how to tie it in yet,

07:30but I need to find the car.

07:31Knowing the sheer damage and destruction of the fire

07:39being over a million dollars of damage,

07:42that's when I decided to bring ATF in.

07:45We got federal search warrants

07:47for all the properties that Corner owned.

07:49We pull up that morning

07:50to execute the search warrant

07:52in the cottage hotel.

07:53The cottage hotel was a three-story,

07:56Pepto-Bismol color,

07:58pink gargoyles out front.

08:00There was always weird stuff going on there.

08:02It was a transient place.

08:05People that lived at the cottage,

08:07it seemed as though they were afraid to talk,

08:09and we didn't know why.

08:12It was always,

08:13I don't know anything.

08:14I can't help you.

08:17During these interviews

08:17with the tenants to the cottage,

08:19we had an individual come forward,

08:22and he said that I needed to talk

08:24to a tenant there.

08:25He's been there for about two, three years.

08:27He wasn't on our radar yet.

08:29He was just another person

08:30that we were talking to.

08:32This is me in 2014

08:35when I moved into the cottage,

08:39and I had absolutely no idea

08:41what I had in store for me.

08:42About 11 o'clock at night,

08:47I got a phone call,

08:50and it was a block number.

08:52I answered the call,

08:54and it was Sergeant Bogard,

08:55and he told me, like,

08:57look, I'm parked across the road.

08:59Look out your window.

09:00You'll see that white car.

09:02He's like, come down, get in my car,

09:05and I'm going to take you somewhere.

09:06We're going to go,

09:07and I want you to talk.

09:09He assured me, like,

09:10nothing's going to happen to you.

09:11We're going to protect you.

09:13And then finally I agreed.

09:14I'm like, there's a place three miles away.

09:18When it gets dark,

09:19and I know that everybody's gone or in bed,

09:22I will meet you there.

09:24I got in the car with him.

09:26I was terrified.

09:28Anybody can show you a badge.

09:30That doesn't mean they're a cop.

09:31And then the door's locked.

09:33And then he took off.

09:35So all of a sudden,

09:36I'm in a car with a big, bald dude that has a gun,

09:39and he's driving towards the woods.

09:41He took us this weird back way into Weatherly.

09:44I've never went that way before.

09:47He didn't say a word to me.

09:49So that made me even more scared.

09:52So I'm, like, sitting there with my hand on the doorknob.

09:55I literally was going to jump out of the car.

10:00We got to the Weatherly police station,

10:03and there was a room full of federal agents.

10:07So I was shocked.

10:08I was honestly shocked.

10:09Detective Bogard,

10:11he tried to calm me down the best he could.

10:13He said,

10:14you're cool, you're cool, you're cool.

10:16We actually sit down and interview him

10:18about what was going on.

10:19You're not under arrest.

10:21You're free to leave at any time.

10:22That door's not locked.

10:23If you want to walk out,

10:24you can walk in at any time.

10:25You know what I mean?

10:25It's just one of those things.

10:27Oh, I've struggled with it,

10:29and I'm scared.

10:31I'm scared for my safety.

10:33I'm scared for my son.

10:35I admitted that I knew about the fire

10:37and that I was there,

10:39and I tried to convey to them

10:41that I was not a willing participant.

10:43They didn't believe me at all.

10:45Like, they absolutely did not believe me.

10:48Donnie Warren, I think,

10:49had a really tough decision to make.

10:51Am I going to be on the good guy team,

10:52or am I going to be on the bad guy team?

10:55So I told them,

10:57I know what happened to Pepe.

10:59So you need to be 100% with us,

11:01straight up,

11:02I just want to do the right thing.

11:07Donnie Warren was a resident there

11:09at the Cottage Hotel.

11:11Donnie is an individual,

11:13a very unique individual,

11:15to say the least.

11:18The stories that Donnie was telling us,

11:21it was almost hard to believe.

11:24One of the first things he said,

11:25that he had the vampire disease,

11:27you know,

11:28which I didn't know what it was.

11:30When I get really stressed,

11:31my liver, my skin breaks off.

11:33I have holes appear in my skin.

11:35And we're like,

11:36oh yeah, that's interesting, Donnie.

11:39I got treated like a UFO abductee.

11:42Nobody would believe me.

11:45Fast forward,

11:46when you find this,

11:46it's a thing,

11:47it's Perfioria.

11:48Like, if he gets stressed out

11:50and he goes in the sun,

11:51he starts to like break out.

11:53You know, it's just weird.

11:56But when he told me

11:57he drove his white Eclipse,

12:00and I'm like,

12:01does it have a big wing on the back?

12:02He's like, yes.

12:03And I'm like,

12:03his story makes sense.

12:04He was here

12:05because we have the photo

12:06to show that he was here.

12:08And it seemed Donnie

12:09was telling the truth.

12:12And he wanted to speak to us.

12:13He wanted to talk

12:13to whoever was in charge.

12:16And I even told him,

12:17like, look,

12:17this is actually what happened.

12:21I'd moved into the cottage

12:23around November

12:23a couple of years ago.

12:26Me and my girlfriend

12:27had split up at the time.

12:28And so I was

12:30just basically desperate

12:33for a place to stay.

12:35There was people

12:36in and out of there

12:37constantly.

12:39This woman,

12:40Elba,

12:41was the one

12:42that dealt with

12:42the elderly people

12:44they had there.

12:46There was a family

12:47living down the hall

12:48from me

12:49as a couple

12:50and a couple of children.

12:52Was Pepe around

12:53at that time?

12:54Yeah, actually,

12:55Pepe came around

12:56around that time.

12:57Pepe,

12:58well,

12:58Jose Heron,

12:59I'd moved into the cottage

13:01around the beginning

13:02of November.

13:03He was only there

13:04for, like,

13:04maybe a week and a half,

13:06maybe two weeks

13:07at the very most.

13:08I liked Pepe.

13:11I thought he was cool.

13:12Sharp dresser.

13:14He's a ladies, man.

13:15A typical, you know,

13:16Cuban machismo.

13:18Kind of like

13:19a fatherly figure

13:20type guy.

13:24Pepe and Roberto Turner

13:26knew each other.

13:34The first time

13:35I met Rob,

13:36I noticed straight away

13:37that he seems like

13:38he's genuine,

13:39he's a caring guy,

13:40he just wants to help you,

13:42he doesn't want

13:42anything out of it.

13:45Rob knew that I was broke

13:47and I needed money,

13:48so he had work around.

13:51If you want me

13:52to paint things cool,

13:55if you want me

13:56to do a little

13:57spackling,

13:58stuff like that,

13:59cool,

13:59as long as it's

14:00within my physical limit

14:01to do it,

14:03I don't mind doing it.

14:04At first,

14:06I did a lot of painting

14:07and then after about

14:08a week of living

14:09at the cottage,

14:11things started to take

14:12a really sinister turn.

14:19Just out of the blue,

14:22I was told,

14:23oh, I need you to go over

14:24to Buck Mountain Road

14:26and paint over a floor.

14:29You have to use this paint.

14:34And he gave me four gallons

14:35of oil-based paint.

14:37Absolutely had to be

14:38oil-based paint.

14:39And I had to coat

14:41as many coats

14:41over the floor

14:42as I could.

14:45So I thought

14:46it was a little weird,

14:48like, why would you

14:48be painting over something

14:50that carpet goes over?

14:52So it didn't make

14:53any sense to me.

14:54And then when I saw

14:55what was on the floor,

14:57I saw the volume

14:59of blood

15:00that was on the floor.

15:04You try telling yourself

15:05that that's not

15:06what it is,

15:07like, no,

15:07that can't be.

15:09It was in that moment

15:10that I realized

15:11that I saw too much,

15:13I knew too much.

15:18There's absolutely

15:19no way

15:20they were going to

15:20let me leave there alive.

15:24The next day,

15:29there was a bag

15:30of weapons

15:31that were put

15:32in my room.

15:33There was a .45,

15:34a 9mm,

15:36a .22,

15:37there was a shotgun

15:38and an AK-47.

15:40I was told

15:41to strip them down,

15:43clean them,

15:44make sure

15:44that there was nothing,

15:46no fingerprints,

15:47like, no DNA,

15:48no nothing,

15:49using bleach

15:50and ammonia.

15:52The moment

15:53that I touched

15:54the weapons,

15:55like,

15:55I knew what

15:56they were used for.

15:58And that was,

16:00like,

16:00the point of no return.

16:03So it was really

16:04a horrible feeling

16:05because that was,

16:06like,

16:06any shot I had

16:07at people believing me

16:08was the evidence

16:09that I was destroying.

16:11So it was really

16:12a double-edged sword.

16:15I did my best

16:16to, like,

16:17make it appear

16:17that I did it

16:18but not erase

16:20all of it.

16:21And then I wrapped

16:22them in bags

16:23and then I put

16:24them back

16:24in the duffel bag.

16:29One of the first

16:30questions I had

16:31of Donnie

16:32after he told us

16:33his story

16:34was,

16:35why didn't you

16:35call 911?

16:36Why didn't you

16:36report it?

16:37And according to Donnie,

16:39he did.

16:40He went to

16:41Chief Anthony Harris

16:42who, at the time,

16:43was the Freeland Borough

16:45chief of police.

16:46I went to Chief Harris

16:48because I thought

16:50it was the right

16:50thing to do.

16:51I seen him on the street.

16:53He was up at

16:53Convenient, actually.

16:55And I walked up

16:56and I told him

16:57I had some information

16:59and that I was

17:01fearful.

17:03I didn't want

17:04to tell him

17:05but I couldn't

17:07deal with being

17:08under somebody's thumb.

17:10And I was like,

17:11I don't know what to do.

17:12What do I do?

17:14And he said,

17:14well, your best bet

17:15is just to mind

17:16your own business.

17:18And he looked at me

17:19and said,

17:20that can just

17:21as easily happen

17:22to you.

17:24I'm like,

17:24oh my God,

17:25oh my God,

17:26what did I just do?

17:27I went in the store,

17:28I came out,

17:29Harris was gone.

17:31I'm like,

17:31all right,

17:31maybe he won't

17:32say anything.

17:34I got home

17:35at the cottage

17:36and I saw

17:37Chief Harris

17:37walk out the front door.

17:39As soon as I

17:40walked through the door,

17:41all the people

17:41that were there

17:42shut up.

17:44Somebody hit me

17:45and then

17:48like a pack

17:49of hyenas.

17:52I had a gun

17:53stuck under my chin

17:54and told that

17:55I was a snitch

17:56and they were

17:56going to kill me.

17:58And I eventually

17:59talked my way

18:00out of it.

18:00I'm like,

18:01look,

18:01he's misunderstood

18:02what I said.

18:03I don't know

18:03what he's talking about.

18:04I didn't say that to him.

18:06And eventually

18:07after getting

18:08your face beaten

18:08and you saying

18:09the same thing,

18:10I was allowed

18:12to walk away

18:13from it.

18:15But any hope

18:16that I had

18:16of getting away

18:17disintegrated

18:18instantly.

18:19I lived every day

18:21of my life

18:22waiting to get killed.

18:24I tried to make myself

18:25as invisible

18:26as possible

18:26because I knew

18:28if I drew attention

18:29in any way

18:29that that was

18:30potentially fatal.

18:32once they trapped you,

18:36that was it.

18:36There was no leaving.

18:38There was just

18:39no way out.

18:45A witness came forward.

18:46That was Donnie Warren.

18:47He relayed

18:48to the investigative team

18:49that Jose Pepe

18:51Horan

18:52was in fact

18:52a missing person

18:53and had been living

18:54in Freeland

18:55in 2015.

18:57We know

18:59Pepe's family

19:00last heard from him

19:01Friday,

19:03November 13th,

19:042015.

19:06So between

19:07that report

19:08and the information

19:10from Donnie Warren,

19:11we knew

19:11we were onto something.

19:13Donnie was able

19:14to get into

19:15more details

19:16about what it was like

19:17for him and others

19:18to live at the cottage.

19:21Cottage was the center

19:22of the universe,

19:24for sure.

19:24The cottage was

19:27a tool

19:28used by Roberto

19:29Turner

19:30to control people.

19:34A lot of these people

19:35were just in fact

19:36down on their luck

19:37or they had addictions

19:38or they just needed

19:40a place to stay.

19:44He was very,

19:46very good

19:46at finding

19:47people's weaknesses

19:48and then exploiting

19:49that weakness

19:50to manipulate them.

19:52So people are so scared

19:53of Roberto

19:54Turner

19:54and that's

19:55what he feeds on.

19:57There was always

19:57rumblings

19:58when we're talking

19:59to people

19:59and saying that,

20:00you know,

20:01the police chief

20:02and Turner

20:02are friends.

20:03We see them

20:04together all the time.

20:07Once you're

20:08in the Turner family,

20:09it's sort of

20:11like the mafia.

20:11You're going to be

20:12one of his minions.

20:16He told us

20:17flat out,

20:18blood in,

20:18blood out.

20:19That's us

20:20versus everybody else.

20:21There was rumors

20:22in town.

20:23We were all Satanists.

20:25We were sacrificing

20:27animals,

20:28cult meetings.

20:30You know,

20:30Rob sat in a throne

20:31and drank from a skull

20:33and, you know,

20:34all of us

20:34were brainwashed.

20:37He was talked up

20:39like Charles Manson.

20:44And then there was

20:45Dave Elzigari.

20:46He was Rob's

20:49personal automaton.

20:51He did whatever

20:52Rob told him.

20:53If you saw Rob,

20:54Dave was there.

20:56I know Dave

20:57did have some belief

20:58in Santeria

21:00and voodoo.

21:01Dave had a bunch

21:02of, like,

21:03ritualistic items

21:05that were related

21:05to black magic

21:07and to Santeria.

21:09It was a ritual stone.

21:11It had, like,

21:12a face carved in it.

21:13One time,

21:19Dave had did something

21:20that made Rob mad.

21:23So in order

21:24to pay penance for it,

21:25he took that carved stone

21:27and, I mean,

21:28literally bashed himself

21:29in the face with it

21:30until blood

21:33was just spraying

21:35out of his face.

21:36This is my blood

21:41oath to you.

21:42You're my brother.

21:43This is my life.

21:44I'm giving you my life.

21:49It was surreal.

21:51I mean,

21:51it's surreal.

21:52Saying it's surreal

21:53to watch somebody

21:54do that,

21:56I've never seen

21:57anything like it.

22:01Roberto Torner

22:02owned several properties

22:03in Carbon

22:05and Luzerne counties.

22:07And Donnie Warren

22:08provided investigators

22:09with information

22:10about weapons

22:11and where they could

22:12find the C4 explosives.

22:18The Buck Mountain Road

22:19property was a big property.

22:21It's vast.

22:24Torner used it

22:25to store a lot of stuff.

22:26If he had garbage

22:28or other stuff

22:29from the work

22:30that he was doing

22:30in town,

22:32he would take it

22:32to the Buck Mountain Road

22:33property,

22:34dump it,

22:34and burn it.

22:37We identified

22:38two burn piles

22:39on the property.

22:42I think it was

22:43like the second

22:43or third day

22:44just excavating down

22:46in the burn pit.

22:48We started finding

22:50things,

22:51and at first,

22:52it's kind of like

22:53putting a puzzle together.

22:54Like,

22:54this doesn't look like

22:55a burnt book

22:56or, you know,

22:57normal burnt material.

22:58Like, what is this?

23:01That looks like

23:02bone fragments.

23:05We did, in fact,

23:07find fragments

23:08that a forensic

23:10anthropologist

23:11was able to identify

23:12as human skull.

23:16Somebody who's missing

23:17this much skull fragment

23:19cannot be alive,

23:20so you can kind of

23:21deduce that,

23:21hey,

23:22we couldn't prove

23:23that it was Pepe,

23:24but if it wasn't

23:25Pepe,

23:26who was it?

23:32Investigators

23:32also found

23:33on Roberto

23:34Torner's property

23:35C4 explosives

23:36that were stolen

23:37from an army base

23:39in Kentucky.

23:40That led to

23:41an arrest

23:42of David

23:43Alzagari

23:44and Roberto

23:46Torner.

23:46While Torner

23:53was in prison,

23:54I went to speak

23:55to him about

23:56the arson.

23:57Money came.

23:59I don't want to be

23:59recording right now.

24:00What's that?

24:00It's all right.

24:01It's just for your

24:01protection and my

24:02protection, so.

24:04You want to ask me

24:04questions, right?

24:05Yes.

24:06I would love to answer

24:06them, but not right now.

24:08Not like that.

24:08Let's talk.

24:09I want to talk to you

24:10anyway.

24:10Okay.

24:12Something horrible

24:13happened.

24:13Very, very, very bad.

24:18Every avenue you go down,

24:20there's something

24:20that just makes you,

24:21like, you think

24:22it can't get any worse,

24:24and then it does.

24:37Come on.

24:38All right.

24:38I want to talk to you.

24:39Let's stop that for a minute.

24:40Roberto Torner told me

24:41he did not want to talk

24:42on camera,

24:43and asked me

24:44to turn the camera off.

24:46He said he has

24:47some information.

24:47He wanted to volunteer

24:48out for us about Pepe.

24:50Turn it off for a second.

24:53That's when he went

24:54into telling me

24:55that he instructed

24:56Dave Alzagari

24:57and Pepe

24:59to take some

25:00construction debris

25:01down to the Buck Mountain

25:03Road address

25:03and burn it

25:05like they normally

25:05always do.

25:12But he was worried

25:12because he knew

25:13because he knew there

25:13was some animosity

25:14between them.

25:15But then he's got

25:16a bad feeling.

25:18He needs to go

25:18check on him.

25:19Something's not

25:20sitting right with him.

25:20Rob said he gets out

25:31and he starts yelling

25:32right away,

25:33Pepe, Pepe,

25:33Pepe, Pepe.

25:35Pepe.

25:36And Dave

25:37sticks his head out

25:39from around this chicken coop

25:40and is waving

25:42to Torner.

25:42and Rob's like,

25:46where's Pepe?

25:47And then he's like,

25:48you believe what

25:49that guy did?

25:49He goes,

25:50Pepe was my friend.

25:52I had to look there

25:52and watch my friend die.

25:54I'm at the state police

26:02barracks

26:03and we get the call

26:04from prison officials

26:06that Dave El Zagari

26:08wants to talk

26:08to law enforcement.

26:10What is this here, buddy?

26:12Two?

26:13Or, no.

26:14Anything.

26:16Those are nice.

26:17I see.

26:18Ah, chop, chop.

26:19If you want to know

26:27what he uses it for,

26:28can you explain that?

26:30Yeah.

26:31I'd like to know.

26:32I'm interested in here now.

26:37So if you're going

26:38to kill somebody,

26:39hook it on the neck

26:39and chop them.

26:41And then David El Zagari

26:43confesses that

26:44he is the one

26:46that killed Pepe.

26:47He killed him

26:49at the Buck Mountain

26:50Road property

26:50and that Roberto Torner

26:53has nothing

26:54to do with Pepe's homicide.

27:00Friday, November 13th,

27:03Dave El Zagari

27:04and Pepe

27:05went to the Buck Mountain

27:07Road address.

27:09They were arguing.

27:14Pepe and Torner

27:16were friends.

27:17And they were really

27:18clicking and really

27:20getting along.

27:21And there was a lot

27:22of jealousy

27:23from Dave

27:25to Pepe

27:26because he felt like

27:28Pepe was kind of

27:29moving in on his position

27:30or his friendship

27:31with Torner.

27:34So there was just

27:35weird things

27:35boiling up

27:37between El Zagari

27:38and Pepe.

27:40Dave ultimately said

27:45he shot

27:46Pepe.

27:49He dismembers him

27:50puts him

27:54in five-gallon buckets.

27:57Dave was chopping him up

27:58like some type of butcher.

28:02And Pepe

28:02was dumped

28:03into the Lehigh River.

28:04according to David

28:08El Zagari

28:08he was chopped

28:09into so many

28:10tiny pieces

28:11that we probably

28:14wouldn't find him.

28:14in my experience

28:18and I've investigated

28:19homicides

28:20for 19 and a half years

28:22it usually doesn't

28:24happen where someone

28:25just confesses.

28:26His demeanor

28:27it's a very

28:28matter of fact

28:29very to the point

28:30however

28:31he almost

28:32it felt like

28:33he was trying

28:34too hard

28:35to tell us

28:36that he wanted

28:37all the blame

28:37then it was all him.

28:41Basically Rob

28:42had his thumb

28:42on Dave

28:43very similarly

28:44to you

28:45but

28:46a little harder

28:47can we agree

28:48that

28:49Dave

28:50is a little

28:51spun out

28:52where

28:53he'll

28:54he'll act violently

28:55oh yes

28:56he must have

28:56but

28:57sometimes

28:58he'll act violently

28:59and maybe necessarily

29:00he doesn't want to

29:01it's because Rob

29:02told him to.

29:07We stopped the river

29:08we did an extensive

29:10search of the

29:11Lehigh River

29:12and

29:18nothing was found

29:20so at that point

29:23we really suspected

29:24it was all a lie

29:25he was covering up

29:27for somebody

29:28that's when we got

29:31Alba Vera

29:32to

29:33flip

29:34we put her

29:36into witness protection

29:37Alba was a resident

29:39of the cottage

29:40and she

29:41was helping out

29:42watching

29:43Roberto

29:45Turner's children

29:46Alba

29:47when

29:48what's

29:48what

29:48when she

29:49has

29:49seen her

29:50done or said

29:51to you

29:51Alba's always nice

29:52to me

29:52she's like

29:53a little sister

29:53to me

29:54she really is

29:54I feel sorry

29:55for the girl

29:55because she's

29:56brainwashed

29:57she is completely

29:58brainwashed

30:00she even got Rob's

30:01name on her

30:02and tattooed on her

30:03she got caught

30:06in this situation

30:07the same way I did

30:08she answered

30:09not in the newspaper

30:10for a job

30:11and then they

30:14talked her

30:14into moving in there

30:15and then they

30:16just pretty much

30:17did the same thing

30:18to her

30:18that they did

30:19to me

30:19Alba wasn't living

30:22in the cottage

30:22anymore

30:23she was in a

30:24different place

30:24in her life

30:25she escaped

30:27she wasn't under

30:28Turner's spell

30:28anymore

30:29we asked her

30:32what she knew

30:32about Pepe

30:33she was very

30:35forthright in

30:36telling us

30:37secrets from the

30:38cottage

30:38Roberto

30:40Turner had

30:41instructed her

30:42during

30:432015

30:44that he wanted

30:45her to

30:46clean

30:47a bunch of

30:49cutting instruments

30:50and he instructed

30:51her where to

30:52hide him

30:52she told us

30:56about the

30:57weapons

30:57and all the

30:58cutting instruments

30:59inside the cottage

31:00that were still

31:01there

31:01so we

31:04immediately went

31:04to the cottage

31:05we went up

31:10into the attic

31:11removed some

31:15insulation

31:15in the furthest

31:16corner of that

31:17attic

31:17and voila

31:18there's

31:21ammunition

31:22there's

31:23cutting instruments

31:24there's

31:25cleavers

31:26there's

31:27machetes

31:27there's

31:28sharp objects

31:29and

31:31Alba

31:31she told us

31:32that she

31:33did have a

31:34romantic

31:34relationship

31:35with Roberto

31:36Turner

31:36Roberto

31:38Turner

31:38started to

31:39question her

31:40about her

31:40loyalty

31:41it was

31:44it was her

31:45Roberto

31:45Turner

31:46Dave

31:46Alzigari

31:47and

31:47Pepe

31:48and

31:51they drove

31:52out to

31:52the

31:53Buck

31:53Mountain

31:53Road

31:53property

31:54torn

32:02her

32:02handed

32:02Alba

32:03a gun

32:03and told her

32:05I want you

32:06to shoot

32:06Pepe

32:06she took

32:09the gun

32:09in her

32:10hand

32:10she held

32:12it up

32:12Alba

32:15had to

32:15make

32:15a choice

32:16what was

32:17she willing

32:17to do

32:18I

32:24considered

32:24Roberto

32:25Turner

32:26a psychopath

32:27he's

32:28deceitful

32:28he's

32:30narcissistic

32:31he's

32:32manipulative

32:32the worst

32:34of the worst

32:35he had

32:36these people

32:37these minions

32:38under him

32:38and he was

32:39in control

32:40it was like

32:42this cult

32:43type thing

32:44where he

32:45just instructed

32:46people to do

32:47things

32:47and they

32:48just did

32:48it for him

32:49Alba

32:53Alba

32:54Vera

32:54was willing

32:55to do

32:55almost

32:56anything

32:57to earn

32:58Roberto

32:59Turner's

32:59love

33:00she thought

33:02that if she

33:02killed Pepe

33:03for him

33:03she would be

33:04somehow

33:04proving herself

33:06to him

33:07she put

33:10the gun

33:10up

33:11but

33:14she just

33:15could not

33:16do it

33:16and she

33:19broke down

33:19started shaking

33:20uncontrollably

33:21started crying

33:23that's when

33:24he said that

33:25was a test

33:26I was testing

33:27your loyalty

33:27to me

33:28when the rubber

33:29met the road

33:30she just

33:30could not

33:30do it

33:31she's not a

33:32killer

33:32and it was

33:33at that time

33:34that Roberto

33:34Turner knew

33:35that she

33:35wasn't going

33:36to be able

33:36to do it

33:37so then

33:37the plan

33:38changed

33:38on the eve

33:41of Friday

33:41the 13th

33:42Alba told us

33:43she heard

33:43some noises

33:44coming from

33:45the basement

33:45of the cottage

33:46she went down

33:47there to

33:47investigate

33:48she found

33:50Roberto

33:51Turner

33:51and David

33:52Al-Zaghari

33:53manipulating

33:54semi-ammunition

33:55they actually

33:57created dummy

33:58rounds

33:58so that would

34:00render them

34:01incapable of

34:01firing

34:02they manipulated

34:03these rounds

34:04and they provided

34:06Jose Horan

34:07with the gun

34:08that was loaded

34:09with these dummy

34:09rounds

34:10on Friday

34:12November the 13th

34:14I remember

34:15Pepe

34:15he had used

34:17my phone

34:17to call

34:17his mother

34:18within

34:20half hour

34:2045 minutes

34:21after talking

34:22to his mother

34:22they took him

34:23out

34:23I tried

34:24to tell myself

34:25like no

34:25they're not

34:26going to do

34:26that

34:27like there's

34:27no way

34:28but that was

34:29just you know

34:29me lying

34:30to myself

34:30when they

34:32arrived

34:32there

34:33David

34:35Al-Zaghari

34:35pulls out

34:36a 22 caliber

34:37revolver

34:38starts shooting

34:39Jose Horan

34:41tried shooting

34:42back

34:42and because

34:44they were

34:45dummy rounds

34:45nothing happened

34:47David was

34:48in pursuit

34:49firing the gun

34:50repeatedly at him

34:52they shot him

34:53at least

34:54five times

34:54that's when

35:00Roberto Torner

35:01walked up

35:01to Jose Horan

35:02and he finished

35:04him off

35:04by shooting him

35:05in the back

35:05of the head

35:06and by

35:09David Al-Zaghari's

35:10own confession

35:11he was chopped

35:12up into

35:12very very tiny

35:13pieces

35:14put into

35:15blue buckets

35:16this was a

35:17carefully staged

35:19managed homicide

35:20by Roberto

35:20Torner

35:21a short while

35:25later

35:26Donnie observes

35:28the van return

35:29but there's only

35:30two people in it

35:30and it's Roberto

35:31Torner

35:31and David

35:32Al-Zaghari

35:32and they were

35:34laughing

35:35and joking

35:36and they had

35:37his head

35:37in a bucket

35:38in the back

35:39of the van

35:39that was

35:42horrifying

35:42that night

35:46that you believed

35:48Pepe

35:49was in the

35:50burn pit

35:50what makes

35:51you believe

35:51that

35:52they told me

35:53they did it

35:53both Dave

35:54and Rob

35:54told me

35:54they did it

35:55they chopped

35:58them up

35:58and melted

35:59them down

35:59whatever that

36:00is

36:00Dave's a sick

36:02because he put

36:03like part of

36:03his face on

36:04and was like

36:05look I'm

36:05leather face

36:06oh I'm

36:08leather face

36:09oh I'm

36:10leather face

36:10like joking

36:11he peeled

36:12his face

36:13off

36:13like literally

36:14peeled his face

36:14off

36:15stuck it

36:15over his

36:16was joking

36:17about being

36:17leather face

36:18having seen

36:21that

36:21it was like

36:22there's no way

36:23to erase it

36:24there's no way

36:24to not think

36:25about it

36:25I still have

36:26nightmares about it

36:27we believe

36:30that Torner

36:31did this

36:31out of jealousy

36:32see Pepe

36:33is this good

36:34looking guy

36:34he's smart

36:35he's a good

36:36talker

36:36girls started

36:37paying more

36:38attention to him

36:38thought he was

36:39better looking

36:40then Torner

36:41didn't like

36:41this

36:41he just

36:42wanted

36:42someone that

36:43was going

36:43to follow

36:43him

36:43someone under

36:44his control

36:44and that

36:45wasn't the

36:45case

36:46Roberto Torner

36:47was a very

36:48paranoid man

36:49it was a

36:51Friday November

36:5213th when

36:53when they killed

36:54Pepe

36:54I don't know

36:55if it was a

36:56way of like

36:56spreading fear

36:58about himself

36:59you know

36:59a way of

37:00kind of

37:00making himself

37:01scarier

37:02ultimately

37:04Liza Robles

37:05who was

37:06Roberto

37:07Torner's

37:08girlfriend

37:08mother of his

37:09children came

37:10forward and

37:11recollected that

37:12night

37:12she woke up

37:13to go to the

37:14bathroom

37:14and both

37:16Roberto and

37:17David were

37:18cooking

37:18she believed

37:19it to be

37:20steak

37:20she asked

37:21for a piece

37:21of the steak

37:22and Roberto

37:23said no

37:24he said

37:25that's Pepe

37:26that's the

37:27allegation

37:28I heard

37:29what was

37:30left of

37:30Pepe

37:31and then

37:32they made

37:32it into

37:33sandwiches

37:33they called

37:34all these

37:35people to

37:35come over

37:36Rob made

37:36a big deal

37:37out of it

37:37oh this is a

37:38special recipe

37:39and we've

37:40got these

37:40Cuban

37:41sandwiches

37:41I knew

37:43what it was

37:43it was so

37:44nauseating for

37:45me and

37:46it was

37:46disturbing

37:47one of the

37:48most ghoulish

37:48things I've

37:49ever witnessed

37:50in my

37:50entire life

37:51and not so

37:51much the

37:52act

37:52but the

37:53attitude

37:53the laughter

37:55they were

37:56treating it

37:56like it

37:57was a

37:57birthday

37:57party

37:58I was so

37:59sickened

37:59by it

38:00I had

38:00to throw

38:00up

38:01so with

38:04all the

38:04evidence

38:04we have

38:05the weapon

38:06that killed

38:07Pepe

38:07we had

38:10David

38:10Al-Zagari

38:11as the

38:13person that

38:14shot him

38:14with that

38:14weapon

38:15that 22

38:15caliber

38:16revolver

38:17we had

38:18the Glock

38:18which was

38:19a 9mm

38:20that matched

38:21those

38:22manipulated

38:23rounds

38:24it really

38:27validated

38:27the whole

38:28case

38:28so in

38:30February

38:31of 2020

38:32we charged

38:34Dave

38:34Al-Zagari

38:35and Roberto

38:35Turner

38:36for the

38:36murder

38:37of

38:37Jose

38:37Horan

38:38who is

38:38Pepe

38:39as reporters

38:40approached him

38:41they asked him

38:42about the

38:42case

38:42I have no

38:43idea what

38:43that

38:44you should

38:44ask the

38:45chief of

38:45police

38:45but David

38:46already confessed

38:47to murdering

38:48him

38:48you gotta ask

38:49the chief

38:49of police

38:49he was

38:51referring to

38:52Chief

38:52Anthony

38:52Harris

38:53of the

38:53Freeland

38:53Borough

38:54Police

38:54Department

38:54witnesses

38:55were telling

38:56us also

38:56that there

38:56was a

38:57friendly

38:57relationship

38:58between

38:58Roberto

38:59Turner

38:59and

39:00Chief

39:00Harris

39:00we told

39:02Chief

39:03Harris

39:03that we

39:04would be

39:04in contact

39:05with him

39:05again

39:05that was

39:06on a

39:06Friday

39:07on Monday

39:09Anthony

39:10Harris

39:11took his

39:11own life

39:12by suicide

39:13so what

39:17are the odds

39:17on this

39:17one

39:18am I gonna

39:18win or

39:18am I gonna

39:19lose

39:19this

39:19one

39:19the trial

39:22was a little

39:22over a

39:23week

39:23with a jury

39:24deliberated

39:25for six

39:25hours

39:26before they

39:26came back

39:27and rendered

39:27their verdict

39:28of guilty

39:28on all

39:29counts

39:29including

39:30first degree

39:30murder

39:31and

39:31arson

39:32he was

39:33convicted

39:34on

39:34Halloween

39:35day

39:35which

39:36was you

39:36know

39:36just

39:36symbolic

39:37no

39:38you

39:39win

39:39some

39:39you

39:40lose

39:40some

39:40that's

39:41what you

39:41get

39:41when you

39:42go

39:42for it

39:42David

39:43Al-Zagari

39:44ended up

39:44accepting

39:44a plea

39:45deal

39:45to third

39:46degree

39:47murder

39:47with a

39:48fixed

39:48sentence

39:48which

39:49when calculated

39:50out in time

39:51is essentially

39:52a life

39:52sentence

39:52getting the

39:54verdict

39:54of guilty

39:55on all

39:55counts

39:56was to me

39:57most important

39:58to give

39:58justice

39:59to

39:59Jose

40:00Horan's

40:00mother

40:01and his

40:01daughter

40:02he was

40:03the world

40:04to them

40:05always making

40:06sure that

40:06they were

40:06okay

40:07he was

40:08that guy

40:09in their

40:09family

40:09Roberto

40:13Turner

40:14and David

40:14Al-Zagari

40:15they're some

40:16of the most

40:16horrible

40:17diabolical

40:19monsters

40:20I've faced

40:22in my

40:22career

40:22getting him

40:25off the

40:25streets

40:25it was

40:26very important

40:27because

40:27who knows

40:28what else

40:29he was

40:30capable

40:30what else

40:31he would

40:31have done

40:32or what

40:33he did

40:33that we

40:33don't even

40:33know about

40:34and I

40:35believe

40:35wholeheartedly

40:36there's more

40:36dead people

40:37out there

40:37that we'll

40:39never know

40:39unless other

40:40witnesses

40:40come forward

40:41Alba feared

40:43for her

40:44life all

40:44the time

40:45to this

40:45day

40:46when I

40:46talk to

40:47her

40:47she's

40:47still

40:47afraid

40:48of

40:48Roberto

40:48Turner

40:49even

40:49though

40:50he's

40:50incarcerated

40:50for life

40:51seeing him

40:52get arrested

40:53and then

40:54seeing him

40:54get convicted

40:55I hope

40:56that something

40:57good will

40:58come out

40:58of all

40:59that suffering

41:00it's so

41:01unbelievable

41:02you could

41:03never imagine

41:04people actually

41:05doing these

41:06things outside

41:07of a horror movie

41:08Friday February 13th

41:16started out like

41:17any other day

41:17that was the day

41:18that my daughter

41:19never came home

41:20the Eskimo Police

41:21Department started

41:21searching for

41:22Amber to block

41:23where's Amber

41:24where's Amber

41:25something's wrong

41:26I need to find

41:27my little girl

41:27is there

41:28a monster

41:28among us

41:29I need to find

41:30a monster

41:31I need to find

41:31a monster

41:32I need to find

41:32a monster

41:33I need to find

41:33a monster

41:34I need to find

41:34a monster

41:35I need to find

41:35a monster

41:36I need to find

41:36a monster

41:37I need to find

41:37a monster

41:38I need to find

41:38a monster

41:39I need to find

41:39a monster

41:40I need to find

41:40a monster

41:41I need to find

41:41a monster

41:42I need to find

41:42a monster

41:43I need to find

41:43a monster

41:44I need to find

41:44a monster

41:45I need to find

41:45a monster

41:46I need to find

41:46a monster

41:47I need to find

41:47a monster

41:48I need to find

41:48a monster

41:49I need to find

41:49a monster

41:50I need to find

41:50a monster

41:51I need to find

41:51a monster

The Friday the 13th Murders Season 1 Episode 4

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