00:00Hello and welcome to Kent Film Club. I'm Chris Deesey and each week I'll be joined by a guest
00:17to dive deep into the impact certain films have had on their life. Each guest will reflect on
00:22the films which have meant the most to them over the years. And every week there will be a Kent
00:26Film Trivia where we quiz you at home about a film that has a connection to the county. And now let
00:32me introduce you to my guest for this week. He is a binfluencer creating murals using litter and
00:38telling stories with discarded shopping lists. He is Kieran Poole. Welcome to the show Kieran. Thank
00:45you for having me. Great to meet you. Well oh School of Rock what a what a great bombastic way to start.
00:51Oh absolutely yeah we all wish we went to that school. Yeah absolutely yeah tell me when you first
00:56saw this and why you picked it. So I think the first the first time I saw it was a in a drama class
01:02in school and obviously you only get an hour in when you're watching a film at school don't you
01:07because the hours the lessons are an hour. So you have that ridiculous thing where you only see an
01:10hour of it and then and then you don't know how it finishes. So I think I watched it and this would
01:14have been VHS so I think I would have then gone and asked my mother or father if I could have a VHS of
01:19it. And I was just absolutely fell in love with the the concepts of a teacher just turning up and
01:27you know doing what that character does. But also deeply ironic that the teacher wanted to waste an
01:33hour perhaps. Allegedly. Allegedly. But then you got a film about somebody who then does something
01:39really inventive with his pupils. Exactly maybe he was trying to tell us right maybe he was trying to
01:43tell us that this was school of drama in itself. But yeah I always I used you know this is a film
01:49that and like all four films that we're going to do like I can quote them right and this film
01:53I'm always shocked if people haven't seen this one. I'm you know I'm not a film buff in any way as
01:58you'll probably see by my choices. But I loved I loved the concept of the school. I've always liked
02:05high school American high school films and that particular prep school I've always thought wow what a
02:10school to go to. And then yes the comedy is obviously very good as well. Now I saw this
02:15probably around the time it came out so again pretty much getting on for 20 years now. Over two yeah I
02:20think it was like three. Yeah now remind me I know of course it turned into a stage musical as well
02:25what what's the appeal in this because I always think of all those films like Dead Poets Society
02:30where you've got the teacher who's not necessarily in an environment or Mr. Holland's opus is actually a
02:34classic. They they don't want to be there. Yep yeah. But then they realize that if they're going to manage
02:39which if they're going to get up in the morning and just get through this day after day they have
02:43to do something that fuses their passion with what the what the curriculum ostensibly demands.
02:52Yeah because he does his own curriculum really doesn't he. I think the appeal was that we all wish
02:57we had a teacher like him. We all wish we had someone who could make us feel as important as he does to
03:03his his pupils and but also I think we all wish we could be that cool teacher as well. So I've taught
03:09and when I started teaching I certainly felt like him and I think we all wish we could be that cool
03:16teacher even if we've never taught I think we all wish we could be that entertaining and cool because
03:20very few teachers are cool are they let's be honest you know very few teachers are cool and pupils
03:24always think teachers aren't cool and they live in school and they're toothbrush in the cupboard and
03:27you know they live there and all they do is marking and that's it. They're born as teachers.
03:31I think yeah we all wish a we could be a teacher like that but b we wish we could have a teacher
03:36like that and have someone even as an adult right I'd love someone as an adult to come into my life
03:41like that to be honest. Well in a way as you're describing that it is almost the sort of the
03:46Mary Poppins thing that in this case in a school in a high school and it's just an updated version
03:50it's it's effectively and as I recall the other teachers at first are very unsure that he really
03:57should be there and the kids because they're like you know this is not the education that we're
04:01supposed to be having. Dangerous Minds with Michelle Pfeiffer always comes to mind again it's that idea
04:05of effectively saying you think that teaching is boring you don't want to be here but I'm going to
04:12give you a reason to come back. So maybe that teacher who of course you're not going to name
04:16who put this on for that for 55 minutes you always want to go back to them I would imagine and say
04:22actually well thank them but also say actually what was the point because it seems deeply ironic
04:27not least the fact that they they didn't show you the remaining. I'm pretty sure we didn't see
04:33no I'm pretty sure we didn't as I say that's why I was desperate to find out and like the music in it
04:37as well so like the songs at the end there's a band called No Vacancy which is the band that he's
04:43originally in and then go on and win the battle of the bands and they have a song called Hill Me I'm
04:47Heart Sick which I just listened over you know an mp3 player a 512 megabyte mp3 player if you remember
04:54those I I just listened to that song constantly and then the song that they do I would have
05:00constantly on as well and the idea of battle of the bands has always fascinated me so like I went
05:05into stand-up comedy and the reason I went into comedy is because I'm I can't sing so I'm I'm a
05:11desperate musician right I've always wanted to be able to be in a band I have no musical talent at all
05:17so I thought right okay well what can I do I'll give comedy a go but I'd give anything to be in
05:23a band I'd be give anything to be the front man of a band and I think that was kind of like I saw
05:28me in in his character as well the idea of like he's just desperate to find a band and be the front
05:33man and that's how I've always felt but he's actually talented and I'm not. Are there particular
05:38scenes any particular transformation stories in the film that make you you know you think back and say
05:44yeah that that that's almost the piano the piano player is really cool um so he's a really shy he's
05:51I don't think he's in that image though but he's like his junior he's really shy and then uh he
05:55suddenly like he's given it's a keyboard not piano sorry he's given a keyboard and he just becomes
06:00like confident and he goes up to the teacher and he's like thank you so much and as a teacher
06:05like when that stuff happens that's amazing right and I always remember that and uh as that moment I
06:10didn't really typically see myself in that child at all but it was more that um I love it when
06:15someone who is really sort of shy and in the corner and no one notices them has an opportunity to be
06:20noticed yeah well it is time now to move on to your second chosen film and you've gone for this is
06:27mel gibson isn't it apocalyptic difference a school of rock very different slightly different genre a bit
06:32of a swerve yeah so there's no um english in this film and um so this film I accidentally started
06:42what so I don't like scary films I don't like horror films I don't really like gory films this is very
06:46gory right and I was watching it uh I would have been 17 18 it was the first television I had ever had
06:54in my bedroom and this was on like channel four maybe so the television only had channels one to
06:58five and it came on and it was halfway through and there's a chase scene in this which I think
07:02is one of the best chase scenes in any films right and when um jaguar paw the main character is running
07:07through running through the jungle being chased by a tribe and it goes on forever but I I just
07:13accidentally started watching this film and I was like oh is it going to be gory no I'm not going to
07:17watch it switched it off and then kept switching it on and on again and it doesn't even have a remote
07:23so it was actually a big old button on the on the television monitor and I kept watching it five
07:30minutes at the time they're switching it off no I can't watch it and I just was in trance with it
07:33and I only watched the chase scene and I was like okay I'm going to like because I didn't I don't
07:37even think I had a I didn't have a smartphone so I googled it on like the old proper house pc
07:44computer the next day finding out what this film was or looking at the the radio times or something
07:49and yeah and I was like right I'm really interested I've only seen it three times
07:53I like the way that it's called rock I've seen like 20 or two well but both films you've seen
07:58in fragments you've seen them in useful and then wanted to go back and if you like fill in the gaps
08:03now I find this intriguing because it's the kind of film it has that almost like that numinous effect
08:09the idea that you draw you repelled or frightened of something but also drawn to it and excited by it
08:14at the same time yeah as I say the chase scene is extraordinary and the fact that there was no
08:18english in it um uh listen if you said to me let's go and see a film where there's no english in it and
08:23you probably won't understand it I'll probably think well okay like I might find that quite difficult but
08:28again I just found this fascinating and I didn't know much about uh Mayan history I didn't know anything
08:35about the tribes and I was just fascinated by the fact that you could it gripped me for the chase
08:39so yeah so then I went and watched it and say I the other films that we're doing today I reckon
08:44I've seen at least 20 times each of them right that's not an exaggeration this one I think I've
08:48only seen it three times but it's the impression but also the impact but it sounds like it's almost
08:53the template in that sense that you saw it in fragments but you wanted to keep going back and
08:58in a way there's probably a part of you that is aware that even now you're reliving that initial
09:04scare it's almost as I've done for example what you've just recounted there is exactly how I feel
09:08about say the exorcist it's a film which I know and can watch but I remember the first time I saw
09:14it which actually was on a big screen but it was almost as though I probably would have preferred to
09:18watch it in segments because I was looking away yeah and like I say like I didn't I don't I've never
09:23liked gore but um a big fan of game of frames and obviously that has a lot of gore in it um but
09:28I didn't watch I didn't watch 18 films like I still right weirdly if I see a film's 18 I'm not watching
09:33that I'm 33 right but if it's an 18 I'm like I'm out I'm not doing it um and I think it's because
09:39I you know I wouldn't have been allowed to watch those films as a kid and obviously they would have
09:42really scared me I don't know what this is I'm pretty sure it's an 18 but I it's the sort of film
09:47that I would never I probably wouldn't have even been allowed to watch as a child but I want I was so
09:52entranced by it and when I watch it I remember I watched it with a friend I showed it to my friend
09:56and I said to him listen there's not going to be any English in this film and he was like oh okay all right and he had the
10:01the same reaction as me he was in trance and he was like wow that's so cool I think you've touched
10:05on something really important that and I've had that with films where you want to share it with
10:09somebody oh yeah you've had this experience you you think you may be it could be an extreme reaction
10:15of horror or extreme reaction of jubilation but you want somebody else to partake in this is the one
10:21film that I feel clever telling people about I feel really clever being like have you seen apocalypto
10:26well it's this little nugget of a film that I've seen yeah I I feel quite quite clever and
10:32when I talk about this film like to friends because most people haven't like a lot of my
10:35friends haven't seen it but also it came out what 2006 or so yeah and after the passion of the christ
10:40so you know Mel Gibson at the time there was it was more about him perhaps yeah yes yeah but but but
10:46also you're showing that this stands up on its own terms now is this something that you think
10:56you could watch again in full because you said oh yeah three times do you kind of feel that you're
11:02now at a point where you want to fill in those those gaps or maybe you already have done no I mean I
11:06certainly have uh no I would I'd absolutely say the time I watched it with my friend who like doubted
11:10why we're watching this film we watched the whole of it and we were both I'd only like normally I popped
11:14to the loo during a film right I didn't yeah that's a good film that's a good film and that's how I rate
11:20a good a film if I go if I have to go to the toilet at the cinema and like yeah we both sat
11:25there and we we were both like you know neither of us checked our phones I think in this modern
11:29world right that is the greatest compliment you can give obviously not in a cinema at home right
11:32well that's about all the time we have for this first half of the show however before we go to
11:36the break we have a kent film trivia question for you at home the 2025 film my fault london uses which
11:44kent venue is it a the historic chatham dockyard b the university of kent or c brands hatch
11:50we'll reveal the answer right after this break don't go away
12:05hello and welcome back to kent film club just before the ad break we asked you at home a kent
12:10film trivia question the 2025 film my fault london uses which kent venue is it a the historic chatham
12:17dockyard b the university of kent or c brands hatch and now i can reveal to you that the answer
12:22was in fact c brands hatch production visited kent to film a number of scenes including one in which
12:28the characters nick and noah visit a racetrack as a birthday present did you get the answer right
12:35well it is time now to move on to your next chosen film and it is been the ultimate disaster movie
12:44isn't it uh very different again so it's like a sandwich of comedy this is isn't it i saw this
12:50by the way on the big screen in 97 i'd forgotten that i've watched it oh it's um i i used to quote
12:58this film there's a speech he does when he's doing the whistler's mother um speech i i could i can't do it
13:06now but i could do it verbatim as a kid and he said about like my uh the the art i do okay so i make um
13:12you know these big murals out of leads and i actually did whistler's mother okay and i did
13:17the mr bean version where he wipes it out and draws it and i did that out of lids and ring pulls a big
13:21one and i it was in a it was in a gallery and this this lady came up to me she was like oh can you can
13:27you tell me about your your your influences who inspires you and i was like mr bean because
13:35i don't particularly have an artistic background at all in terms of art and i and yeah so i was like
13:40yeah mr bean is probably my inspiration for this piece but also fascinating that you've done it
13:46almost you know inverted commas the wrong way that you've watched the parody yeah but that also was
13:53the thing that allowed you or enables you to go into the to do the job i mean there's no way though
13:59that i would have ever heard of whistler's mother as a painting absolutely no chance right yeah and and
14:04and oh goodness me this film said again this was a you know vhs we had i still you know i still
14:09remember like the cover the white cover of it and weird do you as well i always remember this thing
14:13as a kid and i don't know if other families did this like whoever had whoever put the the dvd or
14:17video in you then have to like everyone would ask to read the dvd case because you couldn't google
14:22stuff about films so everyone would want to read the back of it and i always remember us passing it
14:25around and my dad would get it first and then it would come to me last because i'm the youngest
14:29and like i'd always remember the case of the bean and i'd read it back you know all of it and i'd even read
14:33like um the running i could tell you the running time like two minutes um but yeah this film is
14:40just so funny but it's also like those that's a throwback to the days when you'd be able to hold
14:46the film in your hands in terms of the video you put it in so it's not surprising that you'd enjoy
14:51that but i saw this on the big screen and of course the whole point of it like with johnny english
14:58is that it's very silly but also as our own because i forgot i mean i i probably haven't
15:02watched it much since then maybe once but what i remember is that you've got those sort of big set
15:08pieces and everything that could go wrong does go wrong but on a far bigger scale than anything
15:13you see in the tv series which of course at that point we all yes yeah and it's very british isn't
15:18it the tv series whereas this is obviously in in hollywood isn't it and it's it's all about um yeah
15:23it's very it's big things and yeah like it's the he's this little british man that just goes over
15:30and just does everything wrong and like the amount of um the amount of actors and it so me and my
15:35brother or me and my brother graham we always provide ourselves on like being out of spot oh he's
15:39in that if you see someone an actor and say oh do you remember him from something else and we always
15:42think it would be a great game show and in mr bean i still whenever i see an action like something
15:48else but oh they're in mr bean the movie they're really famous actors and actresses but i think they're
15:52famous for mr bean which they're not they're famous in their own right but i always oh i know
15:56i know that person they're there for they're from mr b uh the the mate i can't remember name but the
16:00main one of the actors uh actress in killing eve for example she is in this film and i know her from
16:06that not killing eve which is ridiculous well in the same way though to make you feel better i was
16:10talking to somebody about uh richard e grant and they were thinking about this amazing film they'd seen
16:14him in it was spice world the movie right it's the same yeah yeah and i feel such an idiot like being
16:19like oh no yeah i know her from mr b mr bean like what are you talking about but but yeah this it's
16:26so funny um uh he talks a lot more than like the mr bean so he you know he's got a lot because you
16:31know he does a speech um so i i would i would have to there was a teacher and uh when i was uh in year
16:37three that would ask me to come into her class to do mr bean impressions she'd send a student in to
16:42come into my class and be like can kieran come and do mr bean and i'd go in the class and you know you
16:48can see why i did stand up right i kind of always like making people laugh but i would be able to do
16:52his speech uh as i say and and there's just so many elements of this film that my me my me and my
16:57siblings just quote to each other and and reference all the time and even in the house of commons once
17:02a former prime minister was once uh likened to mr b right and everybody erupted into laughter because
17:08from that point you could never think of that particular individual again you know i love you know i
17:12love black adam huge and black hat is the furthest thing from this right because black hat is a very uh
17:17suave very sophisticated character whereas mr bean is not but i just love rowan atkinson i love i
17:23love i love i love what he does and and yeah this this was like my my absolute love for for so long
17:30this film with rowan atkinson can do like black adam but he can play those really satirical quite
17:34oh genius but also in these where he plays those uh people who are almost like so innocent
17:40yeah yeah or is he that's a good question is he really so innocent i think i think he completely is
17:45i think he's so wonderfully naive even the there's a scene where he blows his nose and gets a bit of
17:49tissue up his nose i used to practice that all the time uh doing that and and yeah it's the you know
17:55it's called the ultimate disaster movie because it is it just it is an absolute disaster everything
18:00that goes wrong is because of him yeah he you don't you don't get angry with him as the watcher you kind
18:06of feel sorry for him and you find him really endearing you're not like oh man like you know you that's
18:10your fault mate you actually watch him going no don't blame him he's innocent where he's not
18:15he just gets everything wrong well it is time now to move on to your final chosen film and you've gone
18:20for shrek two yeah yeah and also i think you're not the first person who's picked shrek two rather
18:27than shrek one yeah um this is my comfort film um it was this or the hobbit the first one they're my two
18:34uh two comfort films i i've still you know the dvd i would watch uh uh uh in university halls all
18:42the time on my laptop and i the music in this film is very good so they introduced me to ills
18:47about a song that's like i get something about i can't i can't sleep but i can't get no sleep that's
18:52the band called ills i would never have heard of them if i hadn't watched this counting crows again
18:56i'd do a fantastic uh song in it and like the music is glorious it's not too long as well it's only
19:02an hour and a half which is very very good and it's just so fun and yeah again i i i watch it no
19:07i can quote it for you i know what's going to happen but i watch it as a comfort film yeah the
19:11other three aren't really comfortable i mean apocalypse are definitely not comfort film but
19:14this is a pure comfort i saw the first one in 2001 on the big screen when i was i was away in newcastle
19:21i was at a conference now with this one it got better reviews as i recall that this was one of those
19:27cases where the second film seemed to for a lot of people improve on yeah a lot of people do say
19:33this one like um i i like i don't know what i like them all but i like this one so much more and
19:40it's not because i don't like the previous one um i think it's that it's a standalone film as well
19:45you can watch this with you know which one you saw first i don't know actually i suspect i would
19:49have done um it's one of the first dvds i ever got as well so it's a green case and it had glitter in
19:54the case like a glitter plastic and i got it for my 13 14th birthday it's the first dvd i ever got
20:00and dvds were like quite expensive then they're maybe like 10 to 15 pounds and so it's a real treat
20:04to get it and i still i always watch dvd i still buy dvds i still buy cds and i will never not i will
20:11always watch this on cd dvd sorry and i bet you still read the cover i still do and i've still got
20:15like the advert bit in the inside cover as well that like i don't know why i've got it and it's that
20:19it's asking for like a competition you can enter for like 2007 which i was going to say which is
20:24probably expiring 20 years ago yeah yeah and and it's just yeah it's a clear there's a clear
20:29beginning middle and end in this film as well um and oh it's just gorgeous it's just so lovely and
20:35yeah the me i think the music is a huge part of it and also and perhaps i'm thinking more of the
20:40first one but this is where the actors well-known actors the eddie murphy's or camera dean mike myers
20:47their voiceover work was so impressive that it actually led to them getting awards or award nominations
20:53for example at the baftas and i wouldn't have known like um i wouldn't have known those people
20:57then i suspect so like i i didn't know it was cameron diaz for a long time i'm as i said earlier i'm good
21:04at like faces i can say oh they've been in something voiceovers not very good at so i i actually for a
21:09very long time didn't marry up cameron diaz in that uh to cameron diaz in gangs in new york for example
21:15i had no idea i didn't know it was her and are there particular scenes because this is a comfort film
21:20is it the sort of film where you're watching and waiting oh there's that big moment coming
21:24up or really exciting or is it the whole thing i think the big jig the big gingerbread monster
21:28they create i always think that's really good the police chase where that they use pepper spray but
21:31they actually have a grinder there's some really like really clever adult jokes in it that are just
21:36pure wit that i i watch this now and i pick up on jokes that i would never get as a kid isn't that
21:41the thing as well because you you've already given your age away but you're in your 30s now you
21:46watched this when you were obviously much younger 13 or yeah now this film by the sound of it has
21:51traveled with you and you know so you you wouldn't have got those adults no no no but now you see it
21:57in a different way so you've grown with the film yeah there's like a really clever like police chase
22:01let's say where they're chasing him and they have like um like in american tv where they do live police
22:06chases and they're on horseback and they're it's just very it's very very cleverly written um and like
22:13the i think the the animation is pretty flawless as well and this is yeah like i cut 06 05 something
22:19like that like it's flawless animation and if you can if you know if you think that's 20 years ago
22:24and how far cgi has moved on you watch that and i don't think you'd be like oh that's a film from 20
22:29years ago how do you feel about the other shred films the one that came afterwards did you sort of
22:33go i've seen them christmas yeah they're very there's a there's a there's a christmas one isn't there
22:37i do like them just not as much as this one yeah and is this again a film that like with the family
22:44or you know is this one that you will watch this alone always watch this alone rather is it because
22:50so many people have seen it whereas with some of the other films it was a case of you've never heard
22:54of this yeah that'd be encouraging yeah certainly yeah like everyone pretty much everyone knows shrek
22:58um i think it yeah it always takes you back to say like being at halls uh i was really homesick and so
23:04like i'd i'd just sit and watch in my in my halls you know the tiny room that you get under my quilt
23:09probably like just on my laptop yeah for some reason i'm not sure i've ever watched this with
23:13anyone else i don't know but um this is a real comfort one and this is the film i've seen the
23:17most so if this you know this is number four on my list but if it was done by the amount of times
23:21you've seen it this wins by an absolute mile i have no idea how many times i've seen it but it's a
23:26long it is i've seen it the most brilliant well i'm afraid that's all the time we have for today
23:30but before we go if you live in kent and want the chance to share four films of your choice reach
23:35out to us at kmtv and you might be invited in to be my next guest but for now many thanks to kieran
23:41pool for joining us and being such a brilliant guest and many thanks to you all for tuning in
23:46until then that's all from us goodbye
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