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00:00All right, it's another episode of the Cedric Maxwell podcast.

00:11I am Josue Bavone alongside Cedric Maxwell and our special guest, Rick Mahorn, Pistons

00:16legend, Pistons broadcaster, radio broadcaster, Rick Mahorn.

00:22What's up, Rick?

00:23Man, all this bullshit introduction, man, I could have did better myself.

00:26Why don't you just say Hampton's Finest or something like that?

00:30So you want-

00:31That's too easy.

00:32It's too easy for you.

00:33You ain't got to build me up.

00:35People know I'm the bad boy.

00:36Well, look, look, I tell you what I got for you.

00:40Pretty soon you're going to have somebody going to be serving you for some shit that

00:44you did to me about damn 30, 40 years ago when you fouled my ass.

00:50You know how they go back with these lawsuits now, Rick, where they go, if you got hit by

00:54Rick Mahorn, then, you know, you're, you can get some money.

01:01Come on, man.

01:02Hey, that's what they call that disability.

01:05Get your Medicaid card, get all that and that's what they call it, call it Medicaid.

01:14And then you get that prepaid food card.

01:16Go ahead and get it, Max.

01:18I'm gonna get it.

01:19We want to know because I've seen you, you're about to have an operation, right?

01:24How are you?

01:25How you been doing?

01:26That's correct.

01:27I had a, you know, I had a consult earlier today, you know, getting, you know, we had

01:32positive thoughts leaving out, but sometimes, you know, when you go under the knife, it's

01:37always that case of nervousness, anxiety, and it just, you know, but I felt better going

01:43out, but shoot, after time, you know, you go in there and he's looking at the hospital

01:48and you're going like, damn, look at all these people with these masks and walking

01:53around with canes and all this stuff.

01:54But you know what?

01:55Hey, that's what God, God's got a good plan for me.

01:59So I'm looking forward to it.

02:00Now, you've been, this is one of those questions I always want to ask you physically.

02:05You've been really healthy, you know, for a big guy, you, you know, play the game the

02:09way you did to see your body start to change and things start to break down.

02:15How did that make you feel?

02:16Because I know my damn back, man, is all screwed up right now.

02:19Man, it made me feel like I did something that I would have did for free.

02:26You know, we played basketball, bred on the, on out and on the concrete and canvas sneakers.

02:33I would have did this for, I would did this shit for free because I love basketball.

02:38I love sports.

02:40But you know, as we get older, it'd be, you remember, he listened to them old heads on

02:45the sideline.

02:46Man, you better don't do that, man.

02:48You go right.

02:49And then we sit there and go like, man, I want to hit that shit.

02:51And next thing you know, we, we, that old dude said, man, you better not do that.

02:57But you got to look at it now, bro.

02:59I'll be looking at the game now.

03:01It's like, it's not as physical, but I just, what, what personally, I would just want these

03:08young guys to respect the game like we did.

03:12And not only respect the game, but respect us because if it wasn't for us or the people

03:18before us, it wouldn't be nothing.

03:21Instead of thinking you did, you just invented the world.

03:26When you hear these, these asinine thoughts, these guys come out, oh, this, you, you know,

03:31they couldn't play.

03:32You could, they couldn't play when we play, but you know, that's what's, that's what it's

03:36called progression.

03:37Hey, they ain't even look, I know you, you're about my age too.

03:42We all, you know, it was the draft and they ain't even, they never heard of the draft

03:47because once you turn 18, you have to go to the, you have to file for the draft and I'm

03:52sitting there going like, but then meanwhile, they don't understand what the foreign guys

03:56go to go through because they have to do a service for their country.

04:02And it, it depends on what they want.

04:04If you have to give money, if you're a basketball player like Dino Raja, you had them up there

04:09and up there in Boston, Dino used to just pay them.

04:12Here you go.

04:13Uh, uh, my service is rendered, but that's what you had to do, man.

04:18Come on, Jason.

04:19Let me, let me, let me ask you, here's the question.

04:22How many people would have got killed if you were playing for $500,000 for a game?

04:27Like they're playing in that cup game right now.

04:30How many people, how many people would be able to walk away?

04:33Especially back then.

04:35Hey, forget that.

04:36I was doing it for 60,000.

04:40Division two, man, we had to share cafeterias with everybody else.

04:44We ain't had no NIL.

04:46You know, we get a couple of dollars back in the day.

04:49You figure like, boy, I'm rich and being a welfare kid with a single parent, my mom tried

04:55to give us everything, but you know what, all she had to do is give me love.

04:59And that was about the best thing you can ever do for your children, for your parents.

05:05It's all about the love.

05:06Money don't mean, money helps, but money don't mean a lot when you just got enough

05:11with the love of your family.

05:13You know, Rick, I was talking to Max last episode about the last time he played a pickup

05:18game or just had to put those sneakers on one last time.

05:22And it's not that far removed from his last day in the NBA.

05:27How far is your last time you took the floor?

05:29What was that like?

05:30I'll put it this way.

05:32I mean, get on the floor and play a competitive game or get on the floor and play bullshit

05:38games.

05:39BS games, just up and down with a half court or full court.

05:42I'm 66 and check this shit, I was still playing ball.

05:47And Brad, you know, once the league started expanding, then all of a sudden it was weak.

05:52So now the more you expand, that's when you got guys, you know, it wasn't shit.

05:57I could go back all the way to my first year.

06:01It was only 11.

06:02This was before I even, you know, before Brandon, it was only 22 teams with 11 players on the

06:08team.

06:09And you talked about a straight up fist fight for $50,000.

06:13I was going to whoop somebody's ass because I wanted a job.

06:17Now when you look at it, you talk about the Emirates game for 500k.

06:24Nobody would be standing.

06:28It's just, you know, the rules have changed, but I think it's fun for the league because

06:34you get two teams that, hey, you know, this can change someone's life.

06:38A guy that don't even play that's on the roster and, you know, even though 500k now today

06:47and then today's ain't a lot because half of that shit going to the government, then

06:52the city, then this and the state, and then you're getting taxed in every damn city you

06:57go play it.

06:58And shit, Brad, we still getting taxed and we ain't playing.

07:02That's bullshit.

07:03I can see if I was making $500,000 like I was playing, but now you get, you know, tax

07:14everywhere.

07:15Everybody wants, everybody wants some.

07:16So it is what, but Brad, you write for 500k.

07:21I might have to, you know, if my mother was playing, you know, I ain't going to kiss her.

07:25I'm going to knock her ass out.

07:27Let me, let me ask you this story was so funny last time you said, when you, when you see,

07:33when you see LeBron James, are you more annoyed or are you more amazed about what he's doing

07:40right now in the league?

07:42Brad, what I'm annoyed is what I'm annoyed with is social media and nothing's wrong with

07:50it.

07:51I mean, nothing's wrong with it used properly.

07:53Remember we had to read the newspaper the next morning and next thing you know, we wouldn't

07:58get information about nobody, Jason, until about a week later.

08:03But now it's so instantaneous that if LeBron breaks his fingernail or Steph Curry, a piece

08:10of his hair comes out, all of a sudden it's big news.

08:13So I like this new way of getting information, but I don't like it the way they use it to

08:22promote bullshit.

08:23So, but I figured, you know, a lot of times when I'm looking at it, Oh, it's on social

08:30media.

08:31It must be true.

08:32Hey, you know what?

08:33Hey, the truth is what, where you go ask that person, Hey, LeBron, is your fingernail hurt?

08:38You know what's going on.

08:39But now, you know, remember Brad, if you took a day off, you took a game off the next game

08:49and that guy that just got in front of you, because I know you had McHale on your ass

08:54and you just like, I'm gonna bust his ass every stinking day.

08:58And when Rodman and Sally, I was going to kick their ass every stinking day, because

09:05this is my job.

09:07This is my position.

09:09And the only way you won't get it if I, if I, if I'm dead and buried a lot with the Celtics

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10:08So with that, with that being said, hold on, with that being said, I knew Rick might say

10:11something right now.

10:12I knew it.

10:13I knew it.

10:14Biggie small.

10:15Get money.

10:16Get money.

10:17That's right.

10:18That's right.

10:19And I ain't mad at you paying bills, son.

10:20We got to do it.

10:21We got to do it.

10:22We've got a lot of reason now, you know, you got to pay to pay the bills here.

10:29Hey, Brad, you wanted this.

10:31You know, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I

10:38love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love,

10:39I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love,

10:40I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love,

10:41I love, I love, I love, I love, I love for you.

10:42I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love for you.

10:43And you know, much as I hate Boston, it's going to be fun to get back up there and Beanton

10:46and just enjoy the fans.

10:48Pretty pretty amazing, but they're assholes.

10:52And thank God.

10:54Thank God.

10:55Listen, thank God that they have assumed names now, because bread, we used to play

11:01you.

11:02They was called in our wounds and see this technology again they were calling our wounds

11:06, and I never get called so many n words in my life.

11:10And it was like, I had one dude on there that messed around, and we had caller ID, and we

11:19called him at 3, 4, 5.

11:23We called him twice at 2 in the morning, because back then, you get that phone, man, we tore

11:29his ass up.

11:30Man.

11:31But, you know, it was a different, it was really a different time that you and I played

11:37in.

11:38And when you think about the era, and people, and respecting people, respecting the game,

11:44got legends that you played with.

11:46You know, you could go down, this is one thing I was thinking about the other day, and did

11:51I play on, did I play, I had, I'm going with my, and this is not politically correct, but

11:56this is what we do.

11:58I'm going with my all-white team, the guys that I played with.

12:02I played with the best all-white team ever.

12:05Now I got Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, I got John Havlicek, I got Dave Cowens, and I got

12:19the guy you hate the most, I got Danny Ainge.

12:21Can you find me a better all-white team?

12:26And Pete Marabitch also, I played with him.

12:31Okay, so when I look at, I played with Jeff Rulon, and also, I mean, and Bill Lambeer,

12:38and then you go, I go a little bit, let's see, who else did I have?

12:44Not Kevin Grievey, no, let me stop grieving.

12:49But then you look up, so my all-white team is one of the best all-white teams ever put

12:56together, right?

12:57Yeah, I'll put it, yeah, I'll give it to you.

13:00You know, in D.C., and when we won the championship, all we had was Bill Lambeer, and we called

13:07him my honorary brother, because he would wear it with his little tight butt slacks

13:12and all that stuff, but hey, man, that was, let's see, Lambeer, let's see, Jeff Rulon,

13:19who was a beast, played with Dino Raja, but you know, do we consider him white or do we

13:25consider him a generation?

13:29But shoot, you got me thinking, bro, most of the time, all I saw was brothers, and no

13:38Spanish dudes at all.

13:41Brothers to the left are your brothers to the right of you, that's what it was.

13:45Even a few light-skinned brothers, baby.

13:47Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I thought about that the other day, I said, man, the team that

13:52I played with, the white guys I played with, I don't think there could ever be, I'm just

13:57thinking of the teams that, I can't think of a better one that you can have a combination

14:04of somebody else who played with that many white guys who could play the game at that

14:08level.

14:09I'm still thinking about it, I mean, damn, you gonna have me think about this shit, then

14:14I'm gonna call you later, or I'm gonna text you later and say, listen, this is, man, fuck

14:20that, but I'll tell you right now.

14:22You got me thinking recently, just not even, I can't even think of one.

14:24Well, Boston got, listen, that damn Peyton Pritchard, I could kick his little ass, that

14:28little motherfucker, man, and I hate to call him a little, but that little motherfucker

14:33bad, and then you go, that damn Houser shoots some fucking jumpers, and then you throw in

14:39them big poor Zingas and that other big fucker, is it Cornette, and you throw him in there,

14:45it was like, damn, these are, this is all a white team, this is all a white team, but

14:49they're kicking our ass right now.

14:52But you know what, I told, I told, I told Peyton Pritchard that, I said, dude, let me

14:57tell you what, you're lucky right now, you're playing now, you're going to try to get a

15:01rebound during the 80s or the 70s, and you, and you, you under, you under, man, those

15:07were the, they would have told you, you might got one, but damn it, you ain't getting, you,

15:12the next one you'll get, you'll get from the hospital.

15:15You know, ready to be in that pain area, everything is free, you know, just bling it out there

15:21and say, yeah, bring your bitch ass in here again.

15:25I mean, the game has changed, the game has changed.

15:28But you know, people, people wouldn't believe that that, those were the words that were

15:32said when you play, you were getting cussed out all the time, you were getting, you were

15:37getting assaulted every time you went on the floor, especially if you could play, and you

15:42better not be a guy on the bench talking shit, and you can't play.

15:46Oh, man, your teammates, man, shut up, shut your damn mouth, because this dude right here,

15:51this dude right here is going to fuck me up because of you, you ain't even coming out

15:56here.

15:56And then you go take it out on them on practice, and then that fucker be like, I ain't saying

16:02shit else, he'll be sitting there mumbling, but I love, you know, when you look at the

16:07game today, you know, I look at it, they're getting younger, which, you know, we got teenagers

16:13in there, and I, you know, it should be something where they do, remember, now they got the,

16:18what is it, rookie transition program.

16:21But what I think about that rookie transition program, they're not given history.

16:27And see, I learned history going to an all-black college where I looked at, like, I looked

16:34at people like Earl of Pearl Monroe, Bobby Dandridge, Willis Reed was my hero, and I

16:39didn't even know that he went to Grambling.

16:42So I'm looking at them, and then I'm looking at other people, Sam Jones, I'm sitting there

16:46going like, Sam Jones won 10 championships, and I'm going like, nobody talks about him.

16:53Or Al Adams, I mean, these are people that battled in this league, Clem Johnson from

16:59FAMU, you just go like, damn, Carlos Terry, then you go, okay, Ben Wallace from Virginia

17:07Union, Oakley.

17:08These are the people that when I look at my wall of, you know, historically black players,

17:14I just go like, who's the first person to play?

17:16And then you go, okay, who's the, they don't even know the history of who's the first

17:22black person that played in this NBA, or who got drafted in the, Earl Lloyd, Earl Lloyd,

17:29I got a chance to see, you can look up on my wall, right there.

17:33That is, of course, that's Willie, you know, that's Hank Aaron, but underneath, that's

17:39my man Earl Lloyd played for the Syracuse Nats.

17:42And you go, damn, people don't even know that.

17:45You know, you go, you do your history, do your homework, and that's how you respect

17:50the game.

17:50Because, Brett, I don't know if you get on the bus or I get on the bus, half of them

17:54don't know who the hell we are.

17:56Look, let me tell you, and he's right about that, because the first time, Jason Tatum

18:08kind of knew me, but he didn't know me.

18:10And then one day he was like, came out on the court, this guy started shooting, he's

18:14like, Cornbread, Cornbread.

18:16I said, what's wrong with you?

18:18He said, I saw you on that 30 for 30.

18:20Damn, you're a bad motherfucker, man.

18:25So you're introduced to history with some of the games that you might have played in.

18:32I mean, I showed the tape of you elbowing me, I gave you a pump fake and you came down

18:40full bore, you ain't trying to help me up.

18:43I showed this to Joe Mazula, head coach of the Celtics.

18:46He said, man, I like that, I like that.

18:51He said, there need to be more of that in the league.

18:53I was like, damn.

18:55Joe loves that.

18:57I showed it to Tatum, I showed it to Brown, and all they did was go.

19:04And the first thing they started saying is, how many games did he get suspended for?

19:10I said, zero.

19:12Hey, Jay.

19:13Were you even subbed out?

19:15Listen, man, please, if you don't get up, you ain't going to play the rest of the game.

19:21But I'll tell you, he pump faked me any time after that game.

19:29Nope, nope, no, no more pump fakes.

19:31I'm going to shoot this shit right now because I ain't got time for you to hurt me with this

19:36250 pound body jumping on my ass.

19:39But you know what?

19:40I can see you seeing guys now how they try to avoid it when somebody gives them a pump

19:46fake, and they'll try to jump out the way.

19:48You ain't even trying to jump out the way.

19:50You already committed to crime.

19:53It's like driving a car, you speeding, speed limit 75, you doing 90, and then oh.

19:59Oh my god.

20:02Just might as well take the hit.

20:03But I look at that, and when you talk about Tatum, and you talk about Brown.

20:08And you know, Brad, I got a chance to talk about Tatum.

20:12We have a connection.

20:14I have family that coached him down there at Chaminade in St. Louis.

20:19So that was kind of a connection.

20:20But just to see them guys once they see us on 30 for 30 and all that kind of stuff, it

20:26gives us it gives us resolve that, hey, you did watch ESPN, and you know what to do.

20:33Look, our people be like shit.

20:35They got that.

20:36If they look at the movies, who Keith Wilkes played, Cornbread, Maxwell and me, whatever.

20:41I was like, that's the wrong person.

20:43But that's Hollywood.

20:46That's the real Cornbread over there.

20:48That's right.

20:50And when I tell you, you go down, and I said, this dude was the MVP of the NBA finals and

20:58shit.

20:58People go like, oh, I thought it was Bird.

21:00But here's the question that I want you to do to him next time you see him.

21:04Both of you up.

21:05Who was the last guy or name the two people name the two people in the NBA and NBA history

21:13won MVP and Rookie of the Year.

21:18I know I know I know one of them because he's your guy.

21:21West on sale.

21:22Okay.

21:23West on sale was one of them.

21:25Rookie of the Year and MVP.

21:29Damn.

21:30The second one is the Rookie of the Year and the MVP.

21:35No, no, no, no, no.

21:38Magic wasn't in that.

21:39Damn.

21:40That's pretty good.

21:41Whoa.

21:41Just give me a second.

21:42I got to get this year.

21:44I knew it was West on sale because that's one of my favorite stats.

21:49But here's the thing.

21:52It's so crazy that you say that because nobody knows.

21:56And that's the fact that I played with a guy that was like, you know, my mentor, my daddy.

22:02God bless his soul.

22:02But he taught me how to be a pro in this league.

22:06Him and Adrian Dantley.

22:07So I look at them and I go like, oh, these dudes.

22:10And a lot of kids don't even know Adrian Dantley.

22:12Man, I ran.

22:13Look, I ran into that West on sale pick.

22:16That brother hit me so damn hard, man.

22:18I'm still like, I still think my spine is out of whack, man.

22:24Nobody called the pick.

22:25I was running full speed, trying to guard somebody as a rookie.

22:29And nobody said nothing.

22:31He stood there.

22:32And it's like I ran into a brick wall.

22:34And you can hear the crowd go.

22:42Who is this second guy, though?

22:44It's too easy.

22:45Will Chamberlain.

22:48Oh, I was going to guess that.

22:49I should have.

22:50Will Chamberlain.

22:51But you know, the first time when I go to camps or something like that, the kids go,

22:55oh, oh, no, it was Michael Jordan or Magic Johnson.

23:01Of course, they're going to.

23:02But then I tell them, why are you worried?

23:04You know, the league.

23:06And then I asked him, how long you think the league has been the NBA?

23:10And they don't know.

23:11It's been over 70 going on 75 years.

23:14Over 75.

23:15Yeah, what was the surprise?

23:16Surprised me.

23:17Somebody said there was only about 6,000 people.

23:20We played in 75 years.

23:23Only 6,000 of us.

23:25I told you that.

23:27Yeah, he was the one I told you.

23:29It was the ones that you because you get repeaters.

23:32Yeah.

23:34Rick, I thought it was I'm thinking in my mind.

23:36It got to be, you know, 15, 16,000 people.

23:40Easy 6,000 people that now that tells you really how good you got to be.

23:47The repeaters you talk about.

23:49And just wait.

23:50Here's the biggest thing.

23:51We talked about the league.

23:53When Ricky and I came in the league, you were fighting for that position.

23:58You had to earn and him more than me.

24:01But I was a first round pick.

24:03Ricky came from all black school.

24:06So a lot of times it was it was segregation towards him.

24:10It's like he couldn't play.

24:12So he went through a whole nother trial and tribulation that I didn't go through.

24:16So I thought was absolutely crazy.

24:18But that was that was that was real, you know, real shit.

24:23When you think about the way we had to fight for our positions and, you know,

24:27hold it down and all this other stuff is crazy.

24:30So what was those first first couple of years like, Rick?

24:33Well, you know, being Division Two, being from Hampton Institute,

24:38first and foremost, they think I just got out of prison

24:41and think I was institutionalized.

24:44But, you know, the fact of the matter, I had Mitch Cupcak, Dave Corzine.

24:49We you know, they had a bunch of repeaters.

24:52And, you know, I sat there and I'm looking at these dudes.

24:55They didn't a lot of them be thinking that they know basketball, but they didn't.

24:59I knew fundamental.

25:01And the fact of the matter, I could play multiple positions.

25:05And a lot of guys come in the league and just say, oh, I'm a center or I'm a forward.

25:11Or I'm a guard.

25:12But you may be best suited for that team, accepting a role.

25:16So I learned from Unsell that I could play center and I could play power forward.

25:20Now I knew I learned how to play the three position,

25:23because a lot of times you get caught in transition.

25:26Would you want me to just run down the middle of the court?

25:28Hell no, I'm gonna get out here on this open spot and try to drive and give me a layup.

25:33You see me, I may put my hand up, give it up.

25:36But that's the thing about fundamental basketball.

25:39And then we get the guys that come in from high school or one year college guys.

25:44Are they fundamentally sound?

25:45But then you get the guys in the second round who's already seasoned,

25:51already knows how to do a back cut or knows how to do a reverse pivot.

25:57You have to teach these.

25:58That's why they got 30 coaches.

26:00Let me ask you this.

26:00What was the best lesson you learned that you can remember from a player and a coach?

26:08So give me one from a player and one from a coach.

26:10Because you were the great Chuck Daly,

26:12but there was other people out there that people don't know about.

26:16And give me a player that says, mine was Dave Bing.

26:20Dave Bing came to me my rookie year and he talked to me.

26:23He's like, Brad, you can be in this league for a while,

26:25but you have to keep your nose clean and you have to be ready to listen

26:30and you have to be ready to learn.

26:32And that was the best words I got from a player.

26:35I got that same message from Wes Hunsell.

26:38That's why I said that's my daddy.

26:42Every time I see his son, Wes Jr., it brings me to life.

26:47That's my family.

26:49And Wes taught me just what you just said.

26:52Listen and learn, but also keep your nose clean.

26:55Because there's so many distractions that we see off the court from a player.

27:02And as for a coach, of course, it's going to be Daddy Rich Chuck Daly.

27:06Because Chuck Daly, you know, he was an exquisite dresser.

27:12And you know, Brad, we learn every time I see you be looking sharp.

27:17We learn from our other people.

27:18And I was just talking to the missus and stuff saying, why?

27:22Or no, I was talking to my son.

27:25And it's like, why do these guys all want to look the same?

27:29You know, you go on the road and see that they got, all right, I'm going to get braids.

27:33I'm going to get curls.

27:34I'm going to get dreads or whatever.

27:35But then you see them with all their pants down.

27:38I ain't got time to look at a lot of straws.

27:41Come on, man.

27:44Now they're getting paid $50 million.

27:45You still looking like one of the dudes from prison, Ward 8.

27:51You want your pants baggy, but you jump into a big bottle.

27:54Yeah, but Rick, not even the coaches are dressing anymore.

27:57You know, I think that's kind of different.

27:59Well, you know, I kind of like it because they keep uniformed.

28:03You know, it's basically because we wear uniforms, but I would love for them to sit on that bench.

28:09Brad, I got paid a lot of off court money just because I will come to each game that I didn't

28:16play dressed to the nine because then they look at it because now you're a professional.

28:21You know, you ain't got to look me up to know that I got nice.

28:24I dress nice, but I dress nice because I want I represent my family.

28:30And, you know, if I walk around here, my sons, if I walk around with my pants hanging off my ass

28:35and my drawers are dirty, they're going to get me.

28:37You know, it's like, oh, nobody wants to see them stains because he ain't white.

28:42Sometimes, you know, you're sitting on the bus and you

28:44and you're sitting in these guys walking by him like.

28:47But it's not to me.

28:54I always said to a lot of the rookies or some that really know me, I said, respect the game,

29:01you know, respect the game, because if you respect the game, the game will respect you.

29:07And that's what I like to see more of with the league.

29:11I think when Allen Iverson and him got in with the ball caps, the hats backwards,

29:16you know, where great times are good times.

29:19Yeah, different times because that was the hip hop world.

29:22But you know what?

29:24That's my era, Max.

29:25That's my right there.

29:26Yeah.

29:26So I look at that right there and I said, you know, you can be correct.

29:30You know, you don't have to have shit hanging off your ass and jumping

29:34and jumping in a fucking Benz or Maybach.

29:38And you got your girls hanging down.

29:41You know, you're you're right when it comes to that.

29:44And but, you know, during that era, which I thought was the funniest thing,

29:48was the fact that those baggy pants, they wore.

29:51Iverson would make a move and he had to pull his pants back.

29:54He made the move.

29:57How comfortable can that feel?

29:58No, every time, you know, you go back to the hood, you go back.

30:03Man, if a cop come there, they weren't pulling their pants, dumbass.

30:07You got to wear some some some you got to wear some leggings or some shit

30:12so nobody can catch your ass.

30:14No, what you had to do was you had to have the shorts underneath the pants.

30:17So you was ready to ball whenever and help keep your pants up.

30:20But that was that was for the real ballers out there.

30:23Well, the real ballers, we ain't give a shit.

30:24We playing in the jeans or whatever because we get out there.

30:28And also you got a game.

30:29We don't catch a game.

30:30You got a ball.

30:31Yucks.

30:32That was crazy.

30:33Let me ask you this question.

30:34Here's a good one.

30:36What is the what's the worst influence?

30:38Drugs or women in the NBA?

30:40Drugs or women?

30:42I put I put the drugs with the women.

30:48And the reason why I say that, because, you know, they're both drugs, you know, but if you

30:53if you're single and you know what you want to do, you could do what you want to do.

30:58But then, you know, like there was this and I see the same hole everywhere, every every

31:04little ego, every other city we go.

31:09Listen, boy, I almost got caught up when they traded one guy off our team and that girl was

31:15coming to check me.

31:16I'm like, I want that.

31:19I said, I said, excuse me, miss.

31:21I went to Hampton.

31:21Ratio was ten to one.

31:23I don't have time for that.

31:27People don't understand the real NBA back then was there were women were predators.

31:35And you would go to.

31:37And you didn't know that that one.

31:41Well, well, not all of them, but there were a lot of them.

31:44I ain't gonna say all of them, but but but there were a lot of women who were predators

31:49at that particular time because you go when you got traded to another team or you went

31:54to another team, you found out that somebody you were seeing was seeing somebody was also

31:59seeing somebody else.

32:00So that's predator shit right there.

32:04I say all of them.

32:06Kenny Martin had interesting take about that with his son telling more to his son about

32:10those type of females.

32:11Well, I can tell you right now, it's it's it's it's kind of a cycle because, you know,

32:17I guess it's still around.

32:19But that's why I go straight to my room.

32:21Don't go to the bar.

32:22And, you know, but you all now we all come on.

32:29I'm 34 years in.

32:31I'm good.

32:32Oh, folks.

32:33Oh, folks ain't gonna do that no more.

32:35We're trying to get back to after we get off the bus.

32:38We're trying to get to our rooms.

32:39But back then we weren't, you know, back then we were just hanging out.

32:44And I understood that.

32:45I understood the game.

32:46But it was a game after the game after the game that went wrong because my rookie year,

32:52I always remember there were four or five guys who were sitting in the room.

32:56They were all they were all snorting coke.

32:59And I just looked at them.

33:00I'm like, damn.

33:01And they kept they kept calling me.

33:03Look, come over and get some, man.

33:05I'm like, no, man, I'm good.

33:06I'm good.

33:07But it was.

33:08But then how they got me, they got me on the woman's side.

33:16That's why you ask this question.

33:18The one that's going to get you one, I'm going to get you either women or the drugs.

33:22The drugs didn't get me, but the women.

33:24Oh, that was a whole nother story.

33:26It's the same.

33:27There's a drug.

33:28It's the women.

33:30It's a drug because then you're getting addicted to something.

33:33But like you just said, you go, I mean, I'm sitting here.

33:37I'm going like I did grow up in the hood.

33:39I tried to keep, you know, kept my nose clean and didn't didn't smoke.

33:44Then you go, OK, this is where in this city, what Kansas City or something, or you go to

33:50this city where it's nothing to do.

33:52And next thing you know, this dude pulls out the little packets and it was like, damn.

33:58And then next thing you know, they pulled out another little packet.

34:01And I'm like, what the hell am I missing?

34:04Because when I did try it, my gosh, that thing blew my whole nostril out and blew my head

34:10back in.

34:11And then you see guys going into rehab.

34:13And, you know, I played with John Lucas, played with John Williamson.

34:18And, you know, I played with that.

34:19And then crack was the big thing back then.

34:22But here's the here's the funny thing.

34:25When you look at it, these guys will get pulled over in the car and stuff like that.

34:29Now this instant instant news who's getting pulled over, why are they getting pulled over

34:34and thinking that they're bigger and better instead of just, you know, complying?

34:39But, you know, it is what it is, man.

34:41I'll take a quick break.

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36:35I'll tell you right now, when you get caught gambling like Pete Rose up in there as players.

36:42See, that's another vice.

36:43That's another vice, Rick.

36:44You talk about the money and the women.

36:45But now, especially with the sports betting and how it's so accepted throughout the U.S.

36:52U.S.?

36:53U.S.?

36:54You mean worldwide?

36:56Oh, yeah.

36:57True.

36:57But I mean, I'm talking about the NBA players, right?

36:59I mean, someone was banned last season for getting involved with something like that.

37:04Yeah.

37:04He was playing mostly in the G League, but he's out the league now because he got

37:09caught up in a sports betting scandal.

37:11But he must be get money.

37:13He must have got a lot of money.

37:17I can't even do it.

37:18Brandon, I can't do that.

37:19It's like, you know, but I understand.

37:22I just go to the barbershop.

37:25Wow.

37:26Wow.

37:28There you go.

37:28He getting it.

37:30All right, Joe Sway.

37:31That's how that goes down.

37:33That's how that goes down.

37:33All right, Joe Sway.

37:34Let's wrap this puppy up, man.

37:36So I'm just going to say my last question is with the Pistons coming off of such a big

37:41win against the Knicks, what can we expect in this Celtics matchup on Thursday?

37:45Well, I hope that, you know, we don't turn the ball over, but we don't start off slow.

37:50When the Celtics jumped up on us real quick, they played, you know, they played like the

37:56champs did.

37:56They are, but they let us back in the game.

37:59So right then and there is some confidence going into Boston.

38:03And it's the fact that, hey, we can, if we can win in New York, we can win in Boston.

38:07And the team is playing better than they were last year.

38:11You know, we got with Cade playing, walking around, triple, double.

38:15You got, you know, guys like Ivy and also guys.

38:19Get the hell out of here.

38:20You ain't winning that damn game in Boston.

38:23Get the hell out of here.

38:24You ain't winning that game.

38:25I know I can't bet, but I know you better bring me out.

38:28If I'm coming, I'm letting you know.

38:30Yeah, we'll put you on.

38:31We'll put you on the picks.

38:32We'll get you prize picks, you know?

38:33Yeah, I don't.

38:34Yeah, that's probably as big as him making another sweet potato pie.

38:38Oh, look, sweet potato.

38:40Yo, I haven't had one of Max's sweet potato pies in years, man.

38:44You bringing that around lately?

38:46Man, we came in, Josue.

38:48We came in.

38:49Listen, I want to slap my mama with that dog one time.

38:53It tastes so damn good.

38:57You know, Brad, me.

38:58Go kiss your mama.

38:59Mama, Ricky, kiss your mama.

39:02Yeah, that's one of the funniest stories, man.

39:04Oh, man, Rick, appreciate you coming on, man.

39:06Second time.

39:07And I mean, you already know we'll get you back on at some point throughout the season.

39:10Well, make sure you get me back on after we whoop that Celtic boy.

39:15If that happens, I'm in.

39:17Let's do it.

39:18We'll give you a victory lap.

39:19You can talk your shit.

39:20All right, brother.

39:22You can't get through with your non-listening motherfuckers.

39:26I'm out.

39:27All right, Lander boys.

39:29It's Rick Mahone.

39:30I'm Josie Pavone.

39:31Cedric Maxwell.

39:31We'll see you guys next week.

39:33What's going on, everyone?

39:34It's Josie Pavone here.

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