00:00I can only use my relationship with now my fellow senator-elect as an example, right?
00:08We don't agree on everything. I mean, quite literally, we'd be driving to an event together
00:12and we'd be having a debate in the car about issues. But we do it respectfully and we do it
00:18with the goal of coming out with something that we all agree on. And that's, I think,
00:23what we're going to have to practice in the House and Senate is how do we get together and say,
00:30okay, the truth is everyone can agree on the fact that our health care system is broken.
00:35We may have differences on how we want to fix it, but the value that underlies that is that
00:41the people are desperate for us to fix health care. That's a lot better than the conversations I have
00:48with some of my Republican colleagues where they just genuinely don't accept the value that we need
00:52to fix health care. So I can sit in a room with someone who believes deeply in Medicare for all
00:58and find common ground with them. That is not hard. If you understand that the mission is to help
01:03people. If your issue is just to score points against the other faction, first of all, I think
01:08that that is shirking your responsibility as a leader. But I also think that is, to me, not what we
01:15are going to demonstrate going forward. Because what does unite us are these economic concerns that the
01:22American public have been so clear about?
01:26I would never go into details of my private conversation with my fellow senator-elect.
01:33But look, I think there's going to be constant debate among Democrats. That's not a bad thing.
01:43What matters is what does it produce when you're done with that debate? Does it create a stalemate where
01:47we can't get anything done? Or does it create in the first 100 days, bill after bill after bill that
01:54forces the president to be, if he wants to be stupid and veto a prescription drug bill, let him do
02:00that.
02:01But get to where we can put forward legislation that people understand will put money in their pockets.
02:08Would it be stupid to veto Trump care?
02:10I'm going to go with what my team says here.
02:13Senator-elect El-Sayed pitching this Trump care for all proposition. What do you make of that?
02:19Do you think that's the right approach for Inter, not actually had a care for all?
02:23But what do you make of his pitch to let President Trump have the credit for work that he wants
02:29to be
02:30pushed through? Do you think that's the right way to Inter. I mean, I think he's rightfully reading
02:34that this president is a narcissist who's obsessed with himself. But our job as elected leaders is to
02:42deliver real things for people. So if slapping Trump's name on it, you know, and putting it in
02:48gold letters would get it through. Hell yes, I would do that. Because the way that I'm going to
02:54be measured and graded is on what actually happens for people in Michigan. So I agree with the sentiment.
03:00I think that it's sad that we're all coddling a president who we know just got shellacked in the
03:06last election. But we have two more years with him. And I can't wait two more years to deliver
03:11something for the people of Michigan. How do you react to those hackers this morning,
03:15protesting the leadership of each party? I wasn't here when that happened. I think, look,
03:21again, we have a healthy debate going on. I'm focused on the Senate. That's where I serve. And
03:29I think again, for the Senate in particular, I just I was so thrilled to be able to be in
03:35that
03:35freshman orientation and watch all these very different Democrats get elected from very different
03:41places, come into a room, get to know each other, start talking about what they have in common.
03:48That generational change is what I'm interested in in the Senate where I serve.
03:54Yeah, you just mentioned that we're going to have a much different and diverse
03:57or diverse set of senators. What skills do you think are needed to lead that
04:04group of senators that would be different than what is needed now?
04:08You know, I think I think a lot of my views on leadership come from working in the national
04:11security world and serving three tours in Iraq, working alongside the military my entire life.
04:18A good leader is not one that just specializes in one thing. A good leader looks at all the skills
04:24of these very different people and says, How do I make them work in concert?
04:29So, for instance, you know, in the military context, you've got the infantry and the air
04:34power and the logisticians and everyone has a different thing that makes it work all together.
04:39That's how I want Democrats to work together as a team. I would say in particular, what I feel
04:46strongly about is that number one, the newer members have really figured out messaging in the 21st century.
04:53So let those newer members be out front. Right. We don't need the same strategy we've always had
05:00of the same old press conference, the same old strongly worded letter. Let the new generation
05:04design from beginning to end that messaging play so that the American public understands what the heck
05:11we're doing. Right. And then secondly, I feel very strongly that we need a joint committee on artificial
05:18intelligence, bicameral, bipartisan, just like we did on nuclear power back in the 40s and 50s
05:24that sets up the whole framework and left and right limits on AI. While we're busy bickering with
05:29each other, Democrats and Republicans, there's an opportunity cost and we have not done what we need
05:35to do on AI. And I think the next generation of leaders would be great to serve on a serious
05:40AI committee.
05:41Senator Collins, Senator Slotkin.
05:42On the subject of AI, what do you think of the general voter backlash of data centers to AI?
05:49Yeah, I mean, I think people are under extreme economic stress.
05:55They literally think the American dream may not be open to them, that if they work hard and play by
06:00the
06:00rules, they can get ahead. I mean, that's what we were taught and they feel like that's not available
06:05to them. They feel shame around that. And then AI comes in and they say, holy moly, it's going to
06:11get
06:11even worse. What are my kids going to do for a living? What does this mean for my job, the
06:15future of work?
06:17I think the backlash, just so many things we see in technology now is this fear of what that means
06:23for
06:24them who are already under stress. So the data center thing, there's no left and right limits.
06:31The future of AI in the workplace, there's no left and right limits. The future of AI in healthcare
06:36decisions and in warfare decisions of life and death, there's no left and right limits.
06:41If we were healthy politically, we would have been working on this for the past five years straight.
06:48We haven't. And in September, I think the whole country kind of woke up to the concerns about some
06:54of the AI frontier models in particular. And their reaction is just to say, stop, stop, stop, slow,
06:59slow, slow, slow, slow. We need to hear that and do our jobs as elected officials to put left and
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