00:00We've got family struggles. We've got people talking about what happened in their childhood.
00:05Are you guys at all worried about people being like, hey, I'm so excited for this fun new pop girlie
00:09show and then getting to episode two of it?
00:12Oh my god.
00:13I think it has all of it. I think there's like the drama, there's like, you know, tune in because
00:20there's always going to be the drama.
00:21But I think also a big reason why we're doing this is we do want people to feel seen and
00:28like someone up there that can maybe they can relate to.
00:33Yeah, and just feel less alone. So I think it has all the things. It has depth and it has
00:38the lighthearted.
00:39Which is the reality of life, right? One second you're laughing and joking with your friends and another second you're
00:44going through hell and you're experiencing that.
00:47And I love that it shows all of it because I do feel like with the OG shows getting a
00:53little bit too heavy and too negative.
00:56But I feel like we have a good combination on this.
00:59Yeah, there's a good balance of it.
01:01Well, we see Macy and Mikayla and later in the season, I'll touch back on this later with Whitney coming
01:06in.
01:06How are the girls reacting to seeing you get this show and this opportunity and find another friend group in
01:11a different place?
01:12I think they're just happy for me, to be honest.
01:14Like, I think they know that I've needed this change for a long time and have needed a fresh start.
01:20And so I think they're happy. I think they're happy for me.
01:25I think they're all doing their own thing too.
01:27Everyone's doing their own thing now. It's just like everyone's got their own opportunities and things.
01:32And yeah, I always joke with them. I'm like, hey, if you ever want to leave Utah, hit me up.
01:39Come to the OC.
01:40I said, come to the OC. I always tell that to them.
01:43Well, how are you doing? I don't want to ask too directly, but I just want to see how you're
01:48feeling with all of the recent news.
01:51Something needs to change.
01:52I've hit my breaking point and I've decided that I want to move forward with a divorce.
02:01Yes, it's been hard.
02:03It's, yeah, it sucks.
02:05And I think it's going to suck for a while, but just trying my best to focus on the positive
02:10and focus on this baby.
02:12And, yeah, I'm trying to be the best mom that I can be for my kids and show up for
02:19them because it's hard for me, but also, most especially, it's hard for them too.
02:26And so, just doing the best that I can to navigate everything in the best way and, yeah.
02:34Ashley, I want to turn to you because at the end of the season, you kind of have your own
02:38moment, a little back and forth.
02:40How are you guys doing now? Is there a relationship that's still there with Madison? What's going on?
02:45She was never concerned until we started the show.
02:47I never brought this to the group. Ever. Once.
02:51Okay.
02:52It seems with Madison, it's just going to go in circles. Deny, deflect, confuse.
02:58Yeah, there is so much love between both of us and so much history that, yeah, for both of us,
03:06we were actually able to have a five-hour flight where we were sitting next to each other and we
03:12really talked through things.
03:15Um, and I think there was just a lot that we came to be able to understand with each other
03:21and, um, even just things that she was feeling that maybe she was, like, more paranoid about or just not
03:27trusting how she felt with things.
03:29So, we really had a good, good moment and I feel like we're moving forward in a good direction. So,
03:37I'm really excited about that.
03:38We get to see Whitney come in. You guys get to have the heart-to-heart that we were all
03:42hoping for, maybe in season four or season five of the OG show. Um, where do you guys stand now?
03:48How did it feel to have that moment where you finally came back together and had that, that heart-to
03:52-heart?
03:52There's so much that I want to apologize for. I do feel like a lot of what I was envious
04:00of during Dancing with the Stars was, honestly, yours and Connor's relationship.
04:05Honestly, that moment was everything. And it was so healing, um, for me, honestly, because reality TV is hard, um,
04:17because when you expose your life and issues to the world, um, it just makes things harder when the world
04:24is involved.
04:25And I do feel like we were pinned against each other just through all the things that we're doing. And
04:33I really wish that wasn't the case. And I knew that I wanted this next chapter to, obviously, like, there's
04:44a lot of things that have happened, um, with my relationship.
04:48And there's a lot of things that I've experienced in my own life, but I also didn't want to be
04:54a victim of everything. And I knew that I needed to take accountability for where I went wrong. And I
05:00think that's just life. We're all going to make mistakes. And yeah, I, we're in a way better place. Like
05:08we just fully support each other. It's so funny. There's still drama online and the world's still trying to pin
05:14us women against each other. And it's just like, why?
05:18Do you know what I'm saying? Like why? Because we are on the same page. We support each other and
05:25are hoping for the best. And I hope that, I mean, can't change what the world wants, but hopefully the
05:34world can just come around.
