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Dive into "The Chamber" with Mario Gila as he shares his incredible journey from mental health struggles to profound inner peace. Discover how 21-year-old Mario transformed negativity into growth with the help of a psychologist, finding strength and resilience.

Experience the unique semi-anechoic room and its power to amplify self-awareness. Mario reflects on his first moments in the silence, connecting with his inner self and exploring his emotional landscape. This profound experience offers a glimpse into what happens when the external world fades away, leaving you with your own sensations.

Explore the athlete's mindset and the relentless pursuit of control. Mario discusses how the demands of his profession shaped his need for perfection and how he's learned to embrace vulnerability and appreciate the authentic essence of himself and others.

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00:00I used the help of a psychologist because I was having a very negative moment
00:06and I didn't have the ability to go ahead.
00:08We asked to treat situations, which for me are heavy at the level of mental health,
00:14with only 21 years and you don't have a job experience, because at the end
00:17you get everything very quickly.
00:19So I came to a psychologist, and I gave my focus totally.
00:23All the negative that happened to me I saw as a step forward,
00:27and I realized that this is something that you need to improve,
00:31something that you had to do.
00:33Everything changed my focus.
00:35I was very severe, I was very severe, and now I am a person who is more calm.
00:42We can all fail, commit errors, pass through negative situations.
00:46So the way I treat myself, how I respond, how I speak,
00:49I think it's determinative for you to enter a continuous positivity.
00:57I feel very good here.
01:02This is a semi-anecoic room, an environment designed to absorb almost completely the sound.
01:11Here there are no echo, reflections and external noise,
01:15but the silence.
01:17Sitting in the center means to enter in a space
01:20where our brain loses its normal points of reference.
01:27We want to discover what happens when, for a minute, the noise appears,
01:34and we remain alone with our sensations.
01:44Mario, how do you feel at this moment?
01:47I feel a lot of peace, I feel very good here.
01:50I think these experiences are also very related to how the person feels,
01:56and in what moment is emotional.
01:59And I think it amplifies a little bit everything.
02:03I wanted to experience it a lot, 100%, the experience.
02:09When they were told me, I think that when you have external factors that contaminate a little bit,
02:15your mind is when you connect with yourself.
02:18That's why I closed my eyes.
02:19I wanted to feel as much as possible what I had inside,
02:25and how my mind works in these moments.
02:37It's a pleasure to talk to Mario Persona, not a athlete, but a human being.
02:43What have you tried from this experience?
02:46Well, I really liked it because I felt a lot of peace.
02:53I've been very calm and it has been a lot of experience that I've never felt.
02:58I'm a person who likes to meditate, to meet myself, to meet myself,
03:05a little bit of spirituality, I really like it.
03:08And I've felt a lot of peace.
03:10A lot of peace because, being in silence, so pure,
03:16and connecting with myself, it's a lot of experience that I don't know if I forget.
03:21It's true, I really like it.
03:22Speaking of yourself, are there moments in which you're alone,
03:26outside of the world that you're looking for, that you're waiting for something from you,
03:29where you get out of yourself and you want to know what you feel?
03:34Who are you in that moment, at an emotional level?
03:36It happens a few times because, whether or not,
03:41the footballer tends to be very active mentally.
03:45It's a profession that takes a lot of mental growth.
03:47But I try to, for example, in vacations or in moments that we are free,
03:56to find situations in which I feel like I'm not sure as in that camera,
04:03but I can connect with myself, I can find that Mario that sometimes
04:07is lost a bit by the profession in which I work.
04:10And in that moment I feel peace, I feel that connection with myself,
04:14I feel that I'm a person, because in our profession,
04:20whether or not, we get away from ourselves, you know?
04:22And that's a bit the goal I try when I'm alone with myself.
04:28You told me that in the profession that you're always very concentrated,
04:32I wanted to talk about the control,
04:33because I've heard you say that you have to have everything under control.
04:37Yes, I think that in my way of seeing a little bit the profession
04:44and the place where we find footballers,
04:47I think that, it seems like not, but you have to manage many situations.
04:52How do you behave outside of the field, at the end of 24 hours,
04:55the food, the preparation, the physical preparation,
04:58if not, the physical preparation, the training, the physical...
05:00And it's like, I have to control everything to perfection
05:03so that the weekend, or the weekend,
05:06it has to be 100%.
05:08So, it's a bit like that the profession
05:10takes you to have everything under control
05:12and if you're a person who likes it
05:15and who thinks it has to be like it,
05:17you exaggerate a bit more, you know?
05:18And in those situations, I think that, well,
05:22to have everything under control,
05:23it makes me feel comfortable.
05:24Only in the job?
05:25Or is this available everywhere,
05:27even with the family, with the friends,
05:29to have everything under control?
05:31I've also been like this with my family,
05:35with my friends, with my friends,
05:37but I understand my personal life
05:41in a different way now.
05:43Before, no.
05:44Because the perfection is very difficult.
05:49At the end, I have a lot of expectations,
05:52I have to go to the perfection,
05:54I think that at a certain point it's boring,
05:57I don't see the person 100% there,
05:59you know?
05:59That pure person.
06:01So, I've been like this for a long time in my life,
06:04I'm young, but I've been like this.
06:06Now, I understand a bit more
06:08the fact of understanding how each one is,
06:10understanding how each one is,
06:11understanding how each one is,
06:12and value it more,
06:13that essence, value it more.
06:15That essence.
06:16Before, you felt weak
06:17when you didn't have control,
06:18or fragile?
06:19Yes.
06:20But now, you understand
06:21that it's a value?
06:22Yes.
06:23Yes, yes.
06:24I understand that people
06:27and the moments
06:28are not always what we want
06:30nor what we expect.
06:31And I think it's a little
06:33related to the ego,
06:35but we're in there.
06:36It's also very deep.
06:38But...
06:39I feel like,
06:43I think,
06:44I feel like
06:45I'm not too much
06:47and I feel like
06:47but I feel like
06:47now I'm less
06:48and I'm more than
06:50I value the difficult moments
06:51because there are also
06:52very positive things
06:53in those moments.
06:54I mean,
06:54we can't control everything,
06:55we can't pretend
06:56everything is perfect,
06:57because I don't show you
06:58anything that's perfect,
06:59I don't think
07:00that's anything
07:02super positive,
07:03In the end, we grow a lot, or we strengthen in more negative moments than in positive moments.
07:09So I left a lot of that kind of perfection, you know?
07:13And that so deep expectation, I don't like it anymore.
07:17In other words, is there a positive aspect of perfectionism for you?
07:21You've become the player that you are thanks to perfectionism, according to you?
07:25Yes, yes. This is a fight that I have with myself, for example.
07:28In the profession, I consider that perfectionism, the ego,
07:34are parts that lead us to be or to triumph in the work, in the professional life.
07:41The ego leads us to be better than maybe the contrincant you are playing.
07:46The perfectionism makes you better work, better care, better care,
07:49and that makes you grow a lot in the profession.
07:53But you have to be balanced, you know?
07:56You know, it can't be all perfectionism because it leads you to have a very heavy requirement
08:01that when you have negative moments, you don't know how to confront them, you know?
08:06So, the lightness that you put in the topic that we were talking about,
08:10when you make a mistake, are you very demanding and severe with yourself?
08:14Or how do you behave with yourself when something is not going like you wanted?
08:17Before, for example, I had a big change.
08:22I had a very negative moment at the beginning of my career here in Italy.
08:26I touched a foundation, but through psychological help,
08:32I managed to carry out all these things.
08:34That's why I tell you before.
08:36Before, I was very hard with myself.
08:38I didn't allow myself to fail.
08:40If I was very negative with myself, I didn't accept that I could fail or make mistakes.
08:46Now I take it much better.
08:48Now I feel that the failure is part of the profession,
08:53it's something that helps you improve, it helps you grow.
08:55So, I take it with much more harmony.
08:58I channel it much better within myself.
09:00I think it has to be a part of the challenge
09:03and you also have to know how to find the solution to that mistake,
09:07whether it's professional or in your personal life,
09:10but with much more calm and more tactful towards me.
09:14This interview also serves to leave value to others, right?
09:18In those moments, what do you tell you in concreto to treat yourself better?
09:24Well...
09:25What a good question.
09:26In these moments where I've suffered negative situations,
09:30post the moment I was telling you,
09:32I'm aware of that everyone can fail.
09:36I'm aware of that the error is part of the job
09:39and it's what will make me grow.
09:42So, I change the focus.
09:44Before I saw it in a very negative way.
09:46Now, from the negative side, I take the positive.
09:50So, I understand that if I put the focus in a positive situation
09:55or from a positive point of view,
09:59it changes everything around the error.
10:01You know?
10:02All the noise
10:03and it turns out to be a calm zone.
10:06It's normal that you commit a mistake
10:08and you are exigent with yourself.
10:10You don't want to come back to that error,
10:12but it may happen to happen.
10:14So, in that moment,
10:16I think to be aware of yourself
10:17and to be aware of something that can happen
10:21and that you can use it as a better way,
10:24I think it's a bit of a path
10:25to not enter into a negative, you know?
10:28You know?
10:29To maintain that positive and that balance
10:30that makes you feel, maybe, in peace.
10:32Like I said there,
10:33in the experience that I've lived before.
10:35Respect to the bad moment that you've passed,
10:38that you've been training,
10:39you've taught you a lot of things,
10:40you've talked about therapy,
10:41you tell me not so much the fact,
10:44but what experience have you had with therapy?
10:47What did you give at the beginning?
10:49Because you understood that it was important for you
10:51to have a figure with whom to confront yourself,
10:54and that you could even give you reading
10:56and save me,
10:57you know?
10:58I used it as a psychologist
11:02because I had a very negative moment
11:04and I didn't have the ability to go ahead
11:07only because, in the end,
11:08we're very young,
11:09we're footballers,
11:10and we ask ourselves to treat situations…
11:13How many years have you been?
11:1421.
11:15Okay.
11:16We ask ourselves to treat situations…
11:17for me,
11:19they are heavy at the level of mental,
11:21with only 21 years
11:22that you don't have a job experience,
11:24because at the end,
11:25you get everything very fast.
11:26So, I came to a psychologist
11:27and, as I mentioned in the previous question,
11:30I changed my focus totally,
11:32you know?
11:33All the negative that happened to me,
11:35I saw it as a step forward,
11:38in the…
11:39this is something that you need to improve,
11:41it's something that you had to do,
11:43it's something that you had to do,
11:45I see it all in a way,
11:47I do all of a lot more positive,
11:48I do more affectionate,
11:50I was very severe,
11:51I was very severe,
11:52I was very severe,
11:53I was very stressed,
11:53now I'm a person that is more calm,
11:56I know…
11:57at the end,
11:58we all can fail,
11:59we can fight,
11:59we can pass through negative situations,
12:01but I'm more in the levanting
12:03than in the exiging,
12:05and in the machacating,
12:06and in the…
12:07Why not?
12:08Why not?
12:09Why not?
12:10So,
12:10the way I treat myself,
12:12how I respond,
12:12how I speak,
12:13I think it's important
12:14for you to enter
12:17in a continuous positivity.
12:19You've started to love you more.
12:21Yes.
12:22Today,
12:22with the maturity
12:23and the mentality
12:25that you have,
12:25how do you live the pressure?
12:27In the moments
12:27where there is a lot of expectations,
12:30where the heart is stronger,
12:31how do you manage those moments?
12:33Depends,
12:34because,
12:36if I speak of myself,
12:38I live the pressure
12:39as an help
12:41as I take a penalty
12:43and I think
12:45I'm a player
12:45and I feel like
12:46you feel like
12:46the footballer
12:47feels a bit of pressure
12:48or a bit of nerves
12:50depending on the play
12:51as an event,
12:52depending on the play,
12:54there are those perhaps
12:55important moments
12:55and minor moments
12:55but also you feel that pressure.
12:58I agree.
12:58That pressure is positive
13:00because it's a preparation.
13:01But I haven't had any situations where the pressure has blocked me, because I've suffered in the past.
13:09In the past I've felt that pressure, and that pressure that you block is very negative,
13:13because it's very different from the pressure that you feel when you're in a mental stability,
13:17which is preparative.
13:18It's a pressure, the antigen pressure is a pressure that you block, it's a pressure that you feel,
13:24that you're afraid, so there are different pressures.
13:27I've seen both of them. The first one is difficult to carry, because it's nervous,
13:33it's the expectation of doing well, it's the feeling that you're seeing a lot of people,
13:39you have to do well, you have to play well, you have to play well,
13:41and that's why I think it's not that positive.
13:44The other one, on the other hand, is a pressure that you feel a bit nervous,
13:49you feel a bit of a feeling that you're preparing, but if you're able to channel it well,
13:53you have to do well, you have to do well, you have to do well, you have to do well,
13:59you have to do well.
14:00So, it's very different, and I think that now I've made it a lot better.
14:04When I hear you talk and see you play, I see you very solid.
14:08That trust that you have in yourself, you have always had it. Where do you grow it?
14:11I am a person who has a lot of parents who had a lot of confidence in myself.
14:18I have considered that I had a lot of confidence in myself, but really in the negative moments I didn't
14:23have it.
14:23Because I had a negative moment and I doubted a lot of myself.
14:26I think that this is done through a journey of psychology,
14:33also the feeling of safe in the work.
14:36Those things that go out of hand.
14:38It's not all a psychologist and the profession, no.
14:41It's all been a bit of hand.
14:43When I started to have these processes, I also have been very well.
14:47And I have been accompanied by football.
14:48So, I've achieved a lot of security in both aspects,
14:51which leads me to be a person that I think I have a lot of confidence in myself,
14:56but because I really feel it, you know?
14:59It's something that I've studied a lot,
15:00the fact that I don't trust in you for what others say
15:04or the value that others have,
15:05but for what you give yourself.
15:07So, that's where I found my stability,
15:11my peace and my trust in that environment.
15:16You played with very strong players.
15:18How did you use the confrontation with their talent
15:23to grow and not live it like an envy,
15:26a positive way to improve yourself?
15:28Yes.
15:29This goes a lot from the hands of confidence, you know?
15:32When one confies in himself and has that confidence,
15:35he understands what others receive.
15:38If you are a person who doesn't trust so much in you,
15:41maybe you reflect on the envy with others.
15:44So, you don't understand that teaching
15:46that the other person is giving you,
15:48that just by seeing it, it teaches you.
15:50So, I've understood it
15:53when I started to get into a well-being
15:59that's more focused on the now.
16:02Before, as I had less confidence in myself,
16:04I had more confrontations with others.
16:06Maybe I didn't feel good what others did,
16:09or maybe I didn't feel good
16:13what others wanted to teach me.
16:16When you get more confidence
16:19and have confidence in yourself,
16:21what others teach you
16:22what others teach you
16:22what others do with positive, you know?
16:24And what you see as a growth
16:26and what you see from another focus.
16:29So, not just what they teach you directly,
16:31maybe I've learned from many players
16:32just seeing, just looking at me,
16:36but maybe things negative, you know?
16:39No of the positive things.
16:40I understand that the teaching
16:42is not only in the
16:43you know, you have to do this
16:45and you think you have to do this
16:46and you think you have to do this.
16:47No, also in how you act.
16:48For example, we have the example
16:49of Luka Modric in the team.
16:51And I focus a lot
16:52on how you act,
16:53on how you act,
16:54on how you act,
16:55on how you act,
16:55on how you act,
16:57on how you act.
16:59And that you understand
17:00when you're good with yourself.
17:03If you're not good with yourself,
17:04I think that you're not going to understand.
17:07You're not going to look at the other
17:08as a positive reflection,
17:09or as a negative reflection.
17:11And when you live a good moment,
17:14can you recognize yourself
17:15being proud of yourself,
17:16enjoying yourself that moment of happiness,
17:18stopping you?
17:19That's something that I cost, for example.
17:21It's something that I cost because
17:23I'm conscious,
17:26but it's something that
17:27that I consider that
17:28in general,
17:29as people,
17:30because we're more aware
17:32of the negative things
17:33or we're more important
17:34to the negative moments
17:35than when you're in the positive,
17:37you know?
17:37And that's a mistake
17:39that everyone has.
17:40I don't know why.
17:41But I try to work it,
17:43I'm aware of it,
17:44but I have to tell you
17:45that if we put it in a bar,
17:46if I enjoy the negative moments
17:49and how I suffer the negative moments,
17:51no.
17:52I suffer more negative things
17:53than the positive ones.
17:54And that's something that,
17:55unfortunately,
17:56I've never learned
17:58to overcome
17:59or to enjoy the positive moments
18:01because we're also
18:02enjoying the positive moments
18:04and we're living them.
18:06But it costs me more
18:07than when I have a negative moment.
18:09I really like the way
18:11you've evolved
18:12at the level of maturity
18:13and the things
18:14you've understood.
18:15So I'll ask you one last question
18:16which is a balance.
18:17The question is simple.
18:18How are you?
18:19But how are you not today?
18:20But if you look at your life,
18:22what period of your life is this?
18:24How is Mario
18:25in this period of life?
18:27In this period of life,
18:28Mario is very happy.
18:30I mean,
18:31all this conversation
18:32that we've had
18:32also goes to the positive
18:34in which I'm now
18:35asumitted.
18:36If I was in a negative moment,
18:38I wouldn't understand
18:39many things
18:39as now.
18:40But I'm in a very positive moment,
18:42because I'm in the place
18:43where I want to be.
18:44I'm in a place
18:45where they love me.
18:47I want to introduce myself
18:48a man who loves me.
18:51I've always loved me
18:52and I speak to my parents
18:53go and faith
18:57his friends
18:58have a lot of experience.
18:59My relatives
19:00have some quite value.
19:03He's very powerful.
19:04So...
19:05So this is almost like
19:05everything all goes well now.
19:07I'm in a moment
19:09I'm at the moment
19:11and I'm very very happy
19:14and here
19:15and have a busy day truly.
19:16So, I have the ability to, if there are negative things, I have a support there, you know?
19:22I have a support that makes you feel good.
19:23And I consider that it is very important because negative moments you will have, I believe, always in life.
19:29So, there is no way to stop in negative moments, you can't, you can't, you can't.
19:33And life will lose weight.
19:35But to have that belt and that support, I think it gives you the opportunity to be very good in
19:42all other aspects.
19:42So, I am very happy, now I am very happy, I am very in peace, very balanced, very happy with
19:49myself, too.
19:51And the truth is that I am very happy with this conversation because I really like all these psychological aspects.
19:58Thank you for your heart, Mario.
20:01A hug.

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