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00:13Hello, welcome to Gangs All Here. My name is Ryan Sampson. That's Brian Costello, our Jets beat
00:17writer. Today is Monday, October 19th. Cause the Jets fall to 2-4 after losing to the New England
00:22Patriots on Sunday, 26-19. And we're here to break it down a lot of things from yesterday's game and
00:27some comments from Aaron Glenn today. But before we get to any of that, as always, how are you doing
00:31today, sir? I'm good, Ryan. Good. Good to be home after a nice, nice long ride from Foxborough last
00:38night. Yeah. Look, and the weather finally wasn't horrible on a Sunday, which is nice that you don't
00:44have to go out. Yeah, you don't have to watch a game in the rain. Cause look, there's a lot
00:51to talk
00:51about for yesterday's game, but I think we have to start with your question, Aaron Glenn, about
00:57Frank Reich's job as offensive coordinator and his response on what, how he think Reich has done.
01:03How would you assess the job Frank has done through six games? Say it again. How would you assess the
01:09job Frank Reich has done through six games? I think he's done a good job. I really do. Obviously,
01:16there's a number of things that, that we can improve on. And I think I just told you guys that
01:21from short yards to two minute. But that also goes on me also when it comes to the defense side,
01:26me and Duker on some things that we have to get better at too. Like obviously, we got to improve
01:32on some things and that's what this season is. That's what practice is. And I mean, after six
01:37games, it's hard to just say, okay, we're this, we have to see how this thing plays out. But I
01:44would
01:45say, I think he's done a good job. Obviously, Geno has done some good things and you got to give
01:50a lot
01:50of credit to Frank Musgrave, Merck and those guys, and plus Geno himself, you know. So as we continue
01:57to go through this this season, you know, I continue to see us be progressing, get better
02:01on the things we got to get better at. But to answer your question, I think he's done a good
02:04job.
02:05So Kaz, he says he's done a pretty good job. What do you make of that?
02:12Look, as the person who asked the question, I understand the coach can't really give you a full
02:17answer on that, right? He's going to defend this guy. That's what he has to do. I asked a similar
02:21question last year about Steve Wilkes, the week before he was fired. And he backed him, right?
02:28So you're going to back the coach publicly. So I understand that. I think it's more from my
02:31perspective, just letting the coach answer the question, right? I think it's something fans are
02:38talking about. Frank Reich, it's something I might be writing about. I wanted to give him a chance to
02:42answer the question. But look, this is not a well coached team, Ryan. And, you know, I think
02:49the we talked about this a little bit last week, the Brown, the beating the Browns sort of was a
02:55deodorant for a lot of things. And people didn't really want to look at it. Like if you really looked
02:59at that game, the Jets should have lost 12 to 10. The punter, the ball goes over the punter's head.
03:04The Jets get the ball to 23. Yes, they scored a touchdown. Kudos to them. They won the game.
03:08They found a way to win, which you have to do in the NFL. But if you're really looking at
03:12that game,
03:12the offense was not good. And I know people say, oh, it wasn't a rainstorm. But the offense wasn't
03:16good the week before in Chicago. It's been pretty much in like spurts. We've seen some good offense.
03:23The second half in Detroit was pretty good. They did some good things against Tennessee.
03:29Green Bay, I don't really remember if they had a good spurt in that Green Bay game. But it's been,
03:34it just hasn't been consistent. And situationally, Ryan, they are terrible. They are a bad team on
03:40third down. They are a bad team in the red zone. They are a bad team in two minute. And
03:46those are
03:46areas where you go coaching. I'm a big players guy. I think you know this. I pushed back against
03:53you and Frankie. You do. I'm coaching stuff a lot because I think it's the easiest thing that fans
03:59do is go, fire the coach, fire the coach. It's the coach's fault. It's the coach's fault. They don't
04:03really want to see. I think a lot of this is players. But when it comes to situational
04:08football, that's coaching. And I thought the chasm between the two coaching staffs was on
04:14display yesterday with two minutes left in the first half. And the Patriots score a field
04:18goal. Jets get the ball. I think it was 143 left. They have a timeout. They go three and
04:23they threw three and out. Patriots get the ball at their own 29 with 124 left. And they just
04:29go boom, boom, boom, 15 yards, 11 yards. They just had the perfect plays dialed up by Josh
04:35McDaniels. David Bailey helps them with a, you know, rough in the passer call, but they
04:40go down and score a touchdown and out 17 to three at halftime. And that game had flipped.
04:45It had been seven to three, two minutes before. And that to me was like, wow, like not just
04:50Mike Vrabel, Josh McDaniels is a great offensive coordinator. And they just out coached the Jets
04:56in those, that last two minutes. It's well said by you, Kaz. And I think you're pointing out to
04:59the key situations and, and, and areas that the Jets just have been lacking in, um, in an
05:05execution. So I think there's, there's two, two parts. I would love to go here. The first being
05:10on the coaching side, uh, you know, everyone's seen the stats now about the final two minutes,
05:15the first half. And in the end of the game, the Jets are being outscored in an astronomical rate.
05:20They don't score themselves. It's cause when I saw that it's, it's 20 to nothing this year,
05:27a hundred to six. I saw that number yesterday after the game, I was like, wow, I didn't even
05:33know it was going to be that bad. I'm sure you were surprised too. Is that, that high of
05:37a margin? I did a story on this at toward the end of last year, I kind of figured it
05:42out toward the end of last year, how bad they were. And it's just continued to tune to this
05:47year. So it's something I pay attention to. And, you know, they actually call it the middle
05:51eight. If you want to do that, extend the first four minutes of the second half, last
05:55four minutes, first half, they're bad. They're, they're bad all around in that too. Um, but
06:01yeah, it's just, it's staggering and it's hard to figure out, right? Like why they're that
06:05bad because they practice it. I see it all summer. They practice two minute drills. I go back
06:10though. If you remember there was a practice against the Buccaneers in the summer and there
06:15was some negativity coming out of that practice and it was, there was a two minute period at
06:21the end of the practice. I was at that practice. And the Jets looked like they had never practiced
06:25before. They couldn't move the ball at all. And then Baker Mayfield, he missed like the
06:29first throw. I feel like Bailey was in his face, missed the first throw. And then all of a sudden
06:33it was like, Ooh, he just sliced and diced the Jets down the field. And I was like, Whoa.
06:39And at that point I thought the Bucs were going to be a good team. They're not even a good
06:42team. Um, so yeah, it's the two minute thing is something they have to figure out.
06:47And what's fascinating too, is look, there can be arguments that offense has a little
06:50bit more of advantage in too much because they do like to do a lot of no huddle in
06:53that situation. They're trying to get you up on the line of scrimmage before you can
06:56get substitutions in and try and get, get the ball out and move the ball downfield.
07:01And I think what's interesting to cause is that the start of that, that, that game, you
07:05know, in the first half, the Jets crossed midfield three times and they only end up with
07:09three points out of all those situations. Yeah. That's where, like we talked about,
07:14I think on last week's episode about the sustained drives, they keep having these killer moments
07:19where whether it's short yardage situation, mistimed penalties, um, miscommunication, whatever
07:25it may be, they are just not executing at a, at a high enough level. So I'm, I'm curious
07:30from your thought, your standpoint, what did you think about the fourth and two run in the
07:35shotgun again with Braylon Allen and then the Gino Smith QB sneak, which felt again,
07:40I know it was fourth and one on the field. It felt more like a fourth and two. And I
07:44would not have called the court and I would not have called the quarterback sneak in that
07:47spot. I'm curious what your thoughts were on those two situations.
07:51Yeah. Um, I was okay. The first one, I was okay. We tried and Braylon Allen. I mean, Braylon
07:57Allen was a 250 pound running back. I think if they had lined up and thrown a pass downfield
08:03and it was incomplete, everyone would have screamed, you have a 250 pound running back,
08:06just run them up the hole. And look, Spillane made a really nice play. I tip, I think you
08:11tip your cap on that one. So the second series, I'm going to take you back though, Ryan to second
08:17and one on that one. They have second and one. Now, if I'm a play caller and I get second
08:22and one, that's a dream, right? That is every single play on your play sheet is in play at
08:29second and one, right? Like what, what do you have to lose? Like, you don't get it. You're
08:32going to have third and one. You have like, so you can, you can take a deep shot on second
08:36and one. You can call your best trick play on second and one. You can, you can call a
08:42screen. Like you could do so many different things. Maybe target Garrett. He hands them
08:47all to Isaiah Davis who runs into the guard. And I'm just like, Oh, it's just the last thing
08:54I would want to do on second and one. I got, I just, I would love, I would just love
08:58to try
08:59something there. So then it's third and two, I think. And then they did, they run the ball
09:04in the middle again. And then, like you said, it was a fourth and a very long one. I do
09:08not
09:08know in that instance, if Gino called his own number, right? Like sometimes the quarterback,
09:13right. A lot of times quarterback has the right, if they go to the line of scrimmage and they
09:16see the gap is open to call a sneak. And then sometimes it's just him, him in the center,
09:21right? He gooses the center and that's a sneak. So I don't know that if it's called, I, that's
09:25a good question for Reich on Thursday. Yeah. Was that called? Was Gino called it? And it
09:30looked like, you know, I know the broadcast, they were kind of getting all over Gino. Like
09:34he went low. Like he needed to, if he stayed high, he could have gotten it. So he's, he's
09:39not the most strongly built lower half person, I would say in terms of driving the pile forward,
09:44if that makes sense. But it was, it wasn't a bare front, right? Like he wasn't running to
09:47the teeth of the defense. There was like, there was two holes there. Like he could have, I
09:51understood that I understood why there was, there was a sneak there to me. It's more
09:54that second and one would drive me freaking crazy. Cause the, cause that's the one. And
10:00yeah, like you just like to see some creativity on these short yardage situations. Cause they
10:04are terrible at them right now. And, and I would also say Gino Smith's not the best right
10:09now in terms of knowing where he is on the field in certain situations. We've seen him
10:13run out of bounds before the first down marker. We've seen him slide before the first down marker.
10:17He's sometimes the awareness is not, I don't think Gino wants to get, Gino doesn't want to
10:21get hit right when he's 36 years old. That's something we've like, we covered Aaron Rogers
10:26for two years. I mean, maybe basically one year, the difference between Aaron Rogers in
10:322024 and Aaron Rogers in like 2019 was he no longer wanted to get hit. And I have not
10:37watched Aaron Rogers this year. So maybe you'll tell me it's different if you've watched him,
10:40but like with the jets, Aaron Rogers didn't want to get hit. So the ball was always coming
10:44out really fast out of his hand. He wasn't trying to take deep shots down the field. He
10:47wasn't really running the ball. You understood it. He's an older quarterback. Like you get it.
10:51Like the hips, everything feels different when you're older, right? You'll get there
10:54someday. When I get out of bed, everything hurts and I'm not playing football. So I get
10:59it. Um, but yeah, that's something with Gino right now is he, he, he looks like he does
11:04not want to get hit. That's fair. That's a fair assessment, but I would also say too,
11:08on the, um, getting the ball out quickly is something Gino has not been doing well
11:11either. It's true. And I, and I was getting sacked. He's getting sacked. And, and look, the
11:16interior of the offensive line was another issue. I feel like today, I thought most, most,
11:20uh, Moses, I was member and fashion were okay. But the fact that the interior got beat up
11:28again, cause like, I didn't think they got beat up, right? There was one series where
11:32they were backed up, right? I think it was their second series. Maybe they get, and they
11:35gave up two sacks. Tipman got run over and they didn't pick up the blitz. And then there
11:39was the third down in the second half that ended a drive. That was a sack. But other than
11:45that, I didn't think they were getting destroyed yesterday. I thought the offensive line kind of
11:48held up. Okay. And there was, they obviously opened up some really big holes for Braylon
11:51Allen. Um, in the first half, they got away from running the ball in the second half for
11:55whatever reason. I was told this cause they were trailing, but like, Jesus Christ, you're
11:59trailing by four points, like run the ball. So that's so funny. I was talking about this
12:04with Frankie on the post game show. I go, if we were with cause right now. And I said, cause
12:08why would they get away from the run in the second half? They were doing it. So on the first
12:11you would have gotten to me, Ryan, they were trailing. You gotta, you gotta try and throw the
12:14ball and get, you know, try and score some points. But I agree with you. I don't understand
12:18why you just completely abandoned the run in the second half. If you're down by 20 points,
12:23I get it. Go ahead and throw the ball. But they're down by 10 at the most. And in third
12:27quarter, it was seven points, then four points and like, just run the ball. Like you were
12:31getting, he was Braylon Allen looked awesome. He did. He's looked awesome the last two weeks.
12:36Like this is the Braylon Allen we've been talking about for two years, three years, like give
12:40him the ball, give him the ball. I could not agree more with you guys. And I already in
12:46the Garrett. That's where I was going to go to next is about the Garrett Wilson, two targets
12:50in the first half, one catch. Uh, and then it was too little too late at the end where
12:54they were targeting him with and peppering him with some, some throws. Look, I think Garrett's
12:58taken the high road a little bit in terms of his post game comments. Uh, but I think you
13:02could see the expression on his face and you could see him on the sideline. It doesn't look
13:07good right now cause. And I didn't love Aaron Glenn's answer today again about why would
13:11Garrett Wilson is not getting targeted as much, you know, saying, Hey, the ball, there's
13:14only one ball. It's like, okay, but you, you paid Garrett a ton of money. Why aren't you
13:20getting the ball more?
13:23Yes. And I think if you look at it, AJ Brown was targeted 10 times yesterday. AJ Brown might
13:29have had the worst game of his career yesterday. He did not look ready. And he still kept feeding
13:34him the ball, right? Like you got to find out if Garrett Wilson is Garrett Wilson for
13:37a reason. He's going to be open. He's going to get open. Even against Christian
13:41Gonzalez, get him the ball. And I won't get into too much detail this Ryan, because
13:47it's a little bit eavesdroppy of me. Yeah. But when Garrett, I was in the tunnel as
13:52Garrett came off the field yesterday, he was not happy and I'm not going to quote
13:57him, but he was not happy. He was talking to his teammates and he wasn't happy about
14:02the way that game went for him. So he's very frustrated. And when you saw him speak to us
14:08in the locker room, that was a long time after the game and after many conversations with Jets
14:15public relations departments, you know, trying to make sure he was going to say the right
14:22things. And Garrett is a good company man. And he did, he did say the right thing. He's
14:26a good teammate, but he's frustrated as hell right now. And you can't blame him. I mean,
14:30he's lived this now for five years, right? Is this, this year five for Gary or six? What
14:37is it? It's year five. Yeah.
14:38Year five for Garrett. It's a lot of losing. And I think Garrett's frustration comes from
14:45a place of, he believes he can help the team win the game, but he needs the ball in his
14:49hands
14:49to do it. And they're just not figuring out ways to get on the ball. And they got to do
14:55that even right. Like run a wide receiver screen. Yeah. Right. I don't like wide receiver screens
15:00that much, but it means you're going to get the ball to Garrett. Go, go for it. Like,
15:04go for it. Like if you just dial up some easy completions just to get him in the game. I
15:10saw Kevin Byard said after the game, one of the most important things was getting number
15:14five out of the game and we did it. Like, so like, you know what they were talking about
15:18on the other side, like they're that, that's so I do think if they get Mitchell back this
15:25week, they get Brees back this week, right? The offense looks a little different with those
15:28two guys in there. Although Braylon's done a great job in place of Brees, but Brees is
15:32just more dynamic in the past game and Brees can, Brees can break a run for a touchdown at
15:38any point. So, um, the offense will look better once they get those guys back in there and
15:42par, I would include par on two in there. Yeah. Uh, I mean, those will be necessary reinforcements,
15:47but at the end of the day, uh, you got who you do on the field and Garrett Wilson is
15:51one
15:51of the best ones in the NFL, I would argue. And they still just, like you said, they just
15:55are not getting the ball enough and that he's not part of the game plan right now in the
15:58way that you would hope that they would want to put them in the game plan. Um, I want to
16:02hit on Omar Cooper first, before we get to the defensive side of this cause Omar Cooper
16:06comes back and wow, what a game should have had two, two touchdowns. I think that was a bogus
16:11OPI call. I know you're going to say that's a letter of the law. That's that is offensive
16:15pass interference. Cause he's trying to run block. Cause he thought Gina was going to
16:18scramble. I think the refs, you're either looking for that or you're not looking for
16:22that. And that felt very forced in that play in that call. But what, what'd you make of
16:27Omar Cooper's day yesterday? Yeah, great. I mean, he had an instant impact, right? And
16:32I think you got to feel good right now. You've had three games this year where a rookie first
16:36round pick was one of your best players, if not the best player with Sadiq against Detroit,
16:41David Bailey against Cleveland and now Cooper. So, you know, these guys can do it consistently.
16:46You've got three really good players there. I think Daryl Jackson has been very good as
16:51a, you know, as a fourth round pick, fifth round pick that he's been very good. I do
16:56think you'll see more ponds now. Uh, ponds played a lot more in the second half yesterday,
17:00uh, with, I think Brownlee might've been responsible for that one touchdown with 100. Henry was wide
17:05open. So I think you'll see more ponds. So you gotta feel good about the rookie class and
17:09yeah, Cooper had big impact. Uh, I'll, I actually would love to ask a referee about
17:15the, the OPI call, right? Cause I do not know what the rule is there. It didn't affect the
17:22play at all. No. So that would be my argument of like, why are you calling it? But they do
17:27call, sometimes they call stuff on the other side of the field. It doesn't affect the play.
17:30Um, and you know, yeah, you can see what Tim Patrick was thinking. He thought Gino was going
17:33to run. So he started blocking. Um, I just don't, it just had no effect on the play. So that,
17:38that's why the call bothers me the same way, you know, a holding call bothers me on the
17:43other side of the field when it's not where the run is going, but technically I'm sure
17:47that is, that is the rule. And it's convenient when the, uh, refs miss a blatant face mask
17:51that would have said the jets up on first and goal later in the game as well. So it's, it's
17:54fun. It's funny how that works. Um, let's switch to the defensive side of the ball. Cause
17:58I think the biggest thing for me was the jets got zero pass rush on Drake may and he had
18:04no sacks yesterday after you had a great game last week. Uh, we can get into the Bailey dropping
18:10a pass coverage. I know it was a quote unquote miscommunication on the touchdown to Romeo
18:14Dobbs, but I don't know if you saw this cause I went down into the stats. Aaron Glenn called
18:20the second least amount of blitzes yesterday, all season long against Drake. And I find that
18:28curious when you're going up against the backup and the backup to the backup tackle and right
18:34tackle and, and a really a banged up offensive line for the Patriots. Curious what you think
18:40about that? Yeah, I'm okay with it. Right. I'll tell you what, I think may is good against
18:44the blitz. We talked about that, right? He's been very good against the blitz. Um, and I
18:49think your argument when you have the backup and the backup to the backup and there is my
18:54front four should be able to win against that, that deep, that offensive line without having
18:59to do blitzes. Like I, I spent a little win with four people on the pass rush there. They
19:04got backups in there and they just weren't winning yesterday. Um, and so that's a problem. I think
19:10this week when you get Malik Willis, he's going to dial up the blitzes. Like there's no tomorrow.
19:14I think it'd be like the Deshaun Watson game. I think what we've seen is when they play a quarterback
19:18that I don't know if he fears is the right word that he respects that he, that he thinks
19:24can do some damage to them and can, can throw over the top of them. He's going to play two
19:28deep safeties. He's going to play back. He's going to, he wants to keep everything in front
19:31of them. Uh, I think when he plays a quarterback that they think that they can rattle, he's
19:37going to blitz. And so I would think Willis is going to get a lot of blitzes this week.
19:42Um, can I, can I, but yeah, I retort there just a little bit. That's why it has to win,
19:45right? Yeah. That's why it has to win. And they were crappy as the run too. No doubt.
19:51148 yards. They rushing like horrible. This defensive line was getting pushed
19:54around yesterday and yeah, the, I actually had my binoculars right on David Bailey on
19:59the type that touchdown. It was interesting. I'm like, I, sometimes I pick a play where
20:03I'm going to watch a player and I saw my binoculars on Bailey and right before that he was lined
20:08up like wide nine. And then right before the snap Sherwood walked over and I don't know
20:13Sherwood said something to him or why he could, but like Bailey kind of looked at him and he
20:17moved inside and then I saw him drop and Sherwood came and I'm like, what, what the heck is
20:22this? Cause, and I think it was supposed to be, I think that was supposed to be an overload
20:25blitz with Sherwood and Bailey coming together and Bailey, for some reason, Bailey got confused
20:30and dropped in the coverage. Cause yeah, that play was a mess. And then the safety bit underneath
20:35and the guy was wide open.
20:36No doubt. And, and I think that's a, that's a good point by you. And I will say this, Aaron
20:41Glenn though, the superpower that he proclaimed he has is defensive play calling. And, and I hear
20:47you on the Drake maze good versus the blitz. But I also think if you're going to play into
20:51your strengths as a team without Joseph Asai in that lineup, you have to be able to generate
20:56pressure with the, via the blitz as well. It can't just be verse four. Cause I don't think
21:00they have the dogs right now. And that's just, you saw yesterday, the Patriots were chipping
21:05Bailey almost every single pass rush snap he had. They had a tight end or running back chipping him
21:10at the line of scrimmage. They said, that's the guy we cannot let beat us. So yeah, if you're
21:14going to drop them in pass coverage on a miscommunication, thanks. We'll take that. But I think
21:18if you're Aaron Glenn, wouldn't you want to be a little more aggressive? Like I think
21:22of like a Brian Flores who blitzes all day and all night, no matter who the quarterback
21:26is, I'm going to get after your ass. That's what the jet strength is. Wouldn't you agree
21:32causes is blitzing and, and, and forcing those mistakes by the quarterbacks. I understand
21:37Drake may is more polished. Josh McDaniels probably has more outlets built into their offense
21:41for him. But when you think you should play more into your strength as a team defensively,
21:47I don't know if I agree. The strength is blitzing. Right. I, I, I think Will McDonald
21:51should have played more. He only played 23 snaps like, and I get it. They don't think
21:56he's the greatest against the run, but you gave up 148 yards against the run with Will
22:00McDonald barely playing. So how much worse can it get? And it really, they weren't running
22:04outside. They were running right up the middle on this defense. And so, you know, uh, you have
22:10two first round picks as edge rushers with McDonald and Bailey, like that should be good
22:14enough. And you know, you should be able to get there with that. And they spent a lot
22:18of money on the interior. They've made a trade for sweat. Like they should be able to push
22:22the line. Um, I, I, this one to me, wasn't the play calling for Glenn. I, I thought Glenn,
22:30I thought he did a really good job against Cleveland and that was a blitz heavy scheme. This one,
22:35this one to me was more about the players with on defense. Like I just felt like there was just
22:41guys wide open at times. And I don't know, you know, Glenn's not drawing it up like that.
22:47Like guys are, guys are screwing up. I'm not exactly sure who, and I'm not sure what they're
22:52doing, but there's no way that he he's designing the defense to look like that. And maybe you could
22:57say, well, the miscommunications are his fault because he's the coach. I understand kind of the
23:03buck stops there type of thing, but this defense ride, like they played much better than I expected
23:10them to, but I still think there's a, there is a lack of talent on the defensive side of the
23:15ball
23:15for the jets. And that's going to be exposed at times when they play good offenses. And I think
23:20that's kind of just what happened yesterday. Okay. I hear you, but maybe we, I think we have a
23:25different viewpoint there, but I'm totally okay with that from your perspective on that. Um,
23:30they're heading into two weeks here cause back-to-back games you would think could be
23:34winnable games for them. They're playing the dolphins. Raiders look different, huh? Right. But the Raiders
23:39also had a competitive game against the bills yesterday. So they're not there. They are,
23:43I think, huh? I had this thought yesterday cause my buddy's a Raiders fan. He goes, I'm really
23:48excited that they're in every game and they're competitive stinks that we can't win, but we
23:53don't have the talent yet. Hopefully in a year or two, they can have the talent to win some football
23:57games and close these out. I don't feel like the jets are there yet. If I'm being honest with you,
24:01like, I don't think they're there where they're actually in these games. I don't know about you guys,
24:06but it's, it was going to take a real miracle for them to win that football game yesterday against
24:09Patriots. It felt like even though the score says it was a seven point loss, I remember the Packers
24:16game. I remember that they should have won that one. Uh, the lions, you know, it was a tough fight
24:21back. Talk to me like, can they win these next two weeks and prove that, you know what they're,
24:27they're better than in the bottom of the league still? Yeah. Well, like this week is, I, I separate the
24:32two games. The Dolphins are a winless team. Look, they look like they're, they're heading to
24:36Jeremiah Smith country, right? Like they're going to have the number one pick in the draft. So
24:41that's a different animal than the Raiders or the Raiders are competitive. The Raiders have won
24:46whatever they got, like three, three and three. Yeah. I think. Right. So they're three and three.
24:51So give them credit. I saw the highlights of the bills game and look like her cousins is playing
24:54amazing right now. Um, so they're different. So this, this week, like, I know, like you asked me
25:01week one, you asked me against the bears, like, is this a must win? This is a must win. Like
25:06you
25:06got to win this game. There's no excuses. You got to win this game. Like you're, this is a team
25:10you
25:10are better than. And there aren't that many of those teams in the NFL. The Jets are better than
25:15this team. Beat them, step on their throats, blow them out, have a convincing victory. Don't let this
25:21be in, you know, any question. Like you should just beat them up. Like you beat the Titans up in
25:26week
25:26one. It should be the same type of thing. The Raiders that looks trickier. And it's interesting.
25:32And I was looking at the schedule and they have like, you can go, Oh, the Jets have, they play
25:37the Cardinals. They play the dolphins twice. Uh, you know, the chargers look like they're, I don't
25:44know if we believe it, but they're in the bottom of the league. So like, you're looking at these
25:47teams and like, okay, these are all games. The Jets should slash could like whatever you think
25:52you want to say win. And then they have a, then they have this other group of games who
25:57are like the top five teams, like the bills twice, the chiefs, they play. Obviously the,
26:04the Patriots are in that category. The Broncos are a little weird right now, right? They're
26:09struggling offense, but the Broncos could figure things out. The Vikings are undefeated. They
26:13play them in December. So they have this, like this group of teams where you're like, man,
26:17do we just have a chance in those games? Like, I'm not sure. The Raiders are like the one
26:22team that's kind of in the middle and like, they're hard to figure out. And that could,
26:26that's like, feels like a big swing game for the Jets for their, when you're doing the win-loss
26:30game of like, is this going to, is this team going to be six and 11 or could this team
26:35be eight and
26:35nine? Like the Raiders game feels like a big one to me, but yeah, I think these are winnable
26:40games. I think the Raiders are similar to the Jets, maybe a little bit better. Um, and in terms of
26:48them, like yesterday, could they win Ryan? I was thinking, I always think about this.
26:53Like it was ever a moment when I thought the Jets could win 17, 10, they get the foot, they
27:00forced the fumble and they get the ball back in Patriots territory. If they went down and
27:06scored there and tied the game at 17. Now you're talking, now you're talking like now you got
27:11the Patriots on the ropes because the game felt over at halftime. It felt like, okay, this
27:17is over. The Jets had this huge advantage of time possession and they were down by two
27:20touchdowns, but then they came back and, but then they, you know, they kicked the fan
27:24to kick a field goal. And so once they kicked the field goal, all right, here they are
27:28settling for another field goal. Like you knew, you knew they weren't coming back. So yeah,
27:34it's I, I, I, for a brief moment, I thought they could win yesterday, right? But not, not
27:38for very long. Yeah. I mean, the Omar Cooper touchdown with the, it was awesome to watch
27:42and I'm like, Hmm, okay. There's some fight in them. Let's see if they can get claw their way
27:46back into this, but the defense could not respond, could not stop the run. And that
27:49ultimately led to them just turning, burning the clock out. And that was how the Patriots
27:53were able to succeed that, that victory yesterday, man.
27:56Third and 13, Ryan Wolf and Hunter Henry's wide open Wolf. It's, I mean, yeah, you can't
28:04like it. So when we talk about situational football, like that's to me, like my criticism
28:09of Glenn is not the play calling yesterday. It's the situational football. They're just,
28:12they're bad on both sides of the ball. And this isn't as big of a point as the other
28:17stuff, Ryan, but remember when this team needs to be able to return kicks?
28:22Yeah. It's bad, man. It's bad right now.
28:26And it's on coverage too. It's on coverage as well.
28:29Yeah. Yeah. Their special teams are bad. Other than Jason Sanders, who we all panned all
28:33summer, he's doing great, but he shows what we know, but the special teams have been bad.
28:39The punter even has had some short punts and I'm like, what's going on? I don't know.
28:45Yeah. Well, Kaz, we appreciate you hopping on here, giving us all your analysis. We're
28:50looking forward to your coverage and we'll catch up with you before the end of the week
28:52as we preview the Jets versus Dolphins coming up next weekend. Thanks, buddy.
28:57How'd Frankie handle the loss?
28:58Uh, he, he's like, he is basically saying what, what he's always said is Aaron Glenn's,
29:05Aaron Glenn's not the head coach of the Jets. He's can't handle it. And he's, he's not wrong.
29:10100 to six. That's bad. That's all time bad. Also, can I ask you, can I ask you one, Ryan?
29:18Yeah.
29:18Did the halftime interview bother you?
29:21I just kind of shook my head and I'm like, that's my superpower coach right there. That's
29:26what he says. I mean, he just cut to black. I don't know. Anything else?
29:34I thought, yeah, I thought he misspoke. I mean, I did listening to it, just having heard
29:40him speak. Well, I thought he misspoke, but yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't a good look. It was
29:44interesting. You know, I didn't realize it at the time, obviously I'm in the press box and
29:49then someone pointed out to me late in the game. I was kind of like, yeah, but they did
29:54get the ball back after the Bailey fumble. I will say that they did. All right. Fun times
30:02guys. Appreciate you, buddy.