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An old clip of Senator Tammy Duckworth confronting Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth has resurfaced, drawing renewed attention to their tense exchange. Duckworth questioned Hegseth’s qualifications, telling him, “You’re not qualified, Mr. Hegseth.” The moment is back in focus amid growing scrutiny of Hegseth’s leadership and calls for his removal.

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00:00Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and also Secretary Mattis had to have this waiver as well.
00:05Mr. Hex said, this hearing is about whether you are qualified to be Secretary of Defense,
00:10and one of the qualifications to answer my colleague's question is to actually
00:14win the votes of every member of this committee and to be confirmed by the United States Senate.
00:18And you need to convince us that you're worthy of that vote because the people of the state of
00:22Illinois voted for me to be their senator so that I could cast that vote when it comes to picking
00:27who is going to be the next Secretary of Defense. This hearing now seems to be a hearing about
00:32whether or not women are qualified to serve in combat and not about whether or not you are
00:38qualified to be Secretary of Defense. And let me just say that the American people need a SecDef
00:42who's ready to lead on day one. You are not that person. Our adversaries watch closely during times
00:48of transition and any sense that the Department of Defense that keeps us safe is being steered by
00:53someone who is wholly unprepared for the job puts America at risk. And I am not willing to do that.
00:59With that in mind, Mr. Hex said, I want you to try to explain to the American people, this committee,
01:04who have to vote for you, and to our troops who are deployed around the world, why you are qualified
01:09to lead the Department of Defense. We already know that you've only led as large as a 200 person
01:14organization. We already know that you so badly mangled a budget that after you left they had to bring in
01:21a
01:21forensic accountant to figure out what went wrong. And then the largest budget you ever managed was
01:27about 18 billion dollars. You know that is about 51,560 times fewer lower than the Department of Defense
01:36budget of 825 billion dollars. Sixteen million dollars is 51,568 times smaller than the defense budget.
01:47Please describe to me, Mr. Hex said, you talk about DOD passing an audit.
01:52Please describe to me a time or an organization when you, that you led, underwent an audit. Because
01:59you say you're going to hire smarter people than you to run this audit. I'm not asking you to be
02:03an
02:03accountant. I want you to be able to tell me what kind of guidance will be given to those employees,
02:09what will happen if, whether or not you pass that audit. Have you led an audit of any organization?
02:14Yes or no? I don't want a long answer. Yes or no, have you led an audit of any organization
02:19of which
02:19you were in charge? Senator, in both of the organizations I ran, we were always completely
02:24fiscally responsible. Yes or no, did you lead an audit? Yes or no, did you lead an audit?
02:29Yes or no. What are you afraid of? You can't answer this question? Yes or no, did you lead an
02:34audit?
02:35Do you not know this answer? Senator, every part of my leadership of these organizations has been
02:40misrepresented from top to bottom. I will take that as a no. What were the findings? Though there
02:43were no findings because you've never led an audit. What guidance did you give the auditors? None,
02:48because you've never led an audit. Nobody expects you to be an accountant, Mr. Hextheth. What we expect
02:53is for you to understand the complexity of this Pentagon budget process that is absolutely necessary to
02:59outfit our warfighters. Look, the Secretary of Defense is required to make quick decisions every single day
03:06that, well, with high-level information that's being provided for them. A Secretary of Defense has
03:10to have breadth and depth of knowledge. Right now, I am concerned that you have neither. Mr. Hextheth,
03:15what is the highest level of international negotiations that you have engaged in, that you have led in? Because
03:21the Secretary of Defense does lead international security negotiations. There are three main ones that
03:26the Secretary of Defense leads and signs. Can you name at least one of them? Could you repeat the question,
03:32Senator?
03:32Sure. What is the highest level of international security agreement that you have led, and can you
03:39name some that the Secretary of Defense would lead? There are three main ones. Do you know? I have not
03:43been involved in international security arrangements because I have not been in government other than
03:48serving in the military. So my job has been to lead men and women in combat. So no, the answer
03:51is,
03:51can you name one of the three main ones that the Secretary of Defense signs? You're talking about defense
03:54arrangements. I mean, NATO might be one of them, one that you're referring to. Status of forces agreement would be
04:00one of them.
04:01Status of forces agreement? I've been a part of teaching about status of forces agreements.
04:06But you don't remember to mention it? You're not qualified, Mr. Hextheth. You're not qualified. You
04:12talk about repairing our defense industrial complex. You're not qualified to that. You could do the
04:17acquisition and cross-servicing agreements, which essentially are security agreements. You can't
04:20even mention that. You've done none of those. You talked about the Indo-Pacific a little bit, and I'm glad
04:25did you mention it. Can you name the importance of at least one of the nations in ASEAN and what
04:33type of agreement we have with at least one of those nations? And how many nations are in ASEAN,
04:38by the way? I couldn't tell you the exact amount of nations in that, but I know we have allies
04:42in
04:42South Korea and Japan and in AUKUS with Australia and trying to work on submarines with them.
04:48Mr. Hextheth, none of those countries are in ASEAN. None of those three countries that you've
04:54mentioned are in ASEAN. I suggest you do a little homework before you prepare for these types of
04:59negotiations. Listen. Mr. Hextheth, we ask our troops to go into harm's way all the time. We ask them to
05:11go into harm's way. And this behind me is a copy of the soldier's creed, a copy that usually hangs
05:17over
05:17my desk here in the Senate. And you should be familiar with it. It's the same copy that hung
05:21over my desk at Walter Reed every single day that I woke up and fought my way back because I
05:26wanted
05:27to go back and serve next to my buddies who'd saved my life. This same copy, these words, I repeated
05:33over
05:34and over and over again. And let me read out two things to you, two sentences. I will always place
05:40the
05:40mission first. And I am disciplined physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my
05:46warrior task. Mr. Hextheth, our troops follow these words every single day. And they man up and they
05:52pack their rucksacks and they go to war. And they deserve a leader who can lead them, not a leader
05:58who
05:58wants to lower the standards for himself or raising the standards for other people. And by the way, our
06:04troops already meet the standards. We ask troops to man that ship, fight that fire, fly that helicopter,
06:10until their very last breath. And they do that every single day. They cannot be led by someone
06:17who's not competent to do the job. How can we ask these warriors to train and perform the absolute
06:21highest standards when you are asking us to lower the standards to make you the Secretary of Defense
06:26simply because you are buddies with our president-elect? And by the way, he has filed for bankruptcy six
06:32times. I'm not quite sure he's the kind of CEO you want to refer to as a successful businessman.
06:36Let me make it clear. You can't seem to grasp that there is no U.S. military as we know
06:43it
06:44without the incredible women that we serve. Women who've earned their place in their units.
06:50You have not earned your place as Secretary of Defense. You say you care about keeping our
06:53armed forces strong and that you like that our armed forces are meritocracy. Then let's not
06:59lower the standards for you. You, sir, are a no-go.
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