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In this live interview with international law attorney Fausto Marcelli, we analyze the geopolitical, legal, and diplomatic significance of Pope Leo XIV’s historic apostolic visit to Argentina, his meeting with President Javier Milei, and the clash of perspectives between the Church’s social doctrine and neoliberalism.

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00:00We now will retake the topic of the Pope's visit, the apostolic journey to
00:05Latin America. He's currently, as we have been reporting, is currently in Argentina
00:10and for that we're going to be speaking with Fabio Marcelli, Fabio Marcelli,
00:15international lawyer, who will help us understand more the importance of the
00:20Pope's visit here in Argentina.
00:42We're gonna be speaking in just moments with Fabio Marcelli, international lawyer.
00:47Fabio, I don't know if you can hear me. Can you hear me?
00:51Yes, I hear you. Do you hear me?
00:53I hear you fine. Fabio, thank you first of all for your time here with us.
00:58So my first question will be, the Holy See is a sovereign entity with a unique
01:03position in international law. How should we understand the diplomatic
01:07significance of Pope Leo XIV's visit to Argentina, particularly his meeting with President Javier Millet?
01:17The Pope Leo XIV is a very important one. First of all, because he returns in a sense to his
01:27roots.
01:28We know he spent a lot of time in Latin America and especially in Peru, so he knows very well
01:34the conditions, the aspirations of the needs and the needs of Latin American peoples.
01:41The second issue pertains to the very content of the teaching of this Pope, which is very attached to
01:53the principle of human dignity and is in a very staunch adversary of neoliberalism.
02:05Therefore, you can imagine the importance of his meeting with a person like President Millet,
02:14the one of the one of the most important prophets of neoliberalism, especially in Latin America,
02:23but we can say also at worldwide scale. So it will be very interesting to see how this meeting develops.
02:33will be very interesting to see how this meeting develops. We will assist to a clash between two extremely
02:40different, I will say, opposite vision of what society, either a society concerned with the rights of the
02:54peoples, this is of course the vision of the Pope, or a society which is concerned only with the interests
03:02of the big corporation. And this is the vision of Millet. I think in his presidency, Millet has shown
03:13better than everyone else, which are the concrete results of these doctrines applied to an economy like
03:26the Argentinian one, provoking very big damages. And therefore, the visit of the Pope can be another
03:35occasion of the Argentinian people and all of all people of Latin America to reassert their rights against
03:47neoliberalism, against the vision, which is the vision of President Pillay, of Trump and others.
03:55So you were referring to the topic of how the policies of Malay have impacted the Argentinian
04:00people and there have also been concerned about restrictions on demonstrations and the right to
04:04protest in Argentina. How do these developments measure against international human rights standards
04:09and what role can institutions such as the Catholic Church play in defending those rights?
04:15We know that one important feature of the Pope's doctrine is the attachment to international law. And of
04:30course, international human rights are a big part, a great part of international law today.
04:39Therefore, we expected that the Pope will say something very clear in face of every attempt to
04:51to violate human rights and especially the rights to the peaceful demonstration of peoples, which is now
05:03occurring everywhere in the world, especially in Europe and Latin America. So we expect we'll say something
05:10in this respect. Thank you, Fabio Marcelli for your time here with us in From the South.
05:21Well, we're speaking with Fabio Marcelli international jurist on some aspects of the importance
05:26that and symbolic symbolism that the Pope visits to Argentina and the Apostolic Journal in general to South America has.

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