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00:00:10you're right i hope you are sincerely hope you are me yeah i'm all right yeah i'm fine thanks
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00:00:42little harry how are you this morning good sir morning yeah i'm all good this embodied voice
00:00:46out of the ether there the all powerful all-knowing omnipresent omniscient producer
00:00:52it is now eight in the a.m on thursday the 5th of uh november in the year of our
00:00:58law 2026 remember
00:00:59remember the 5th of november guy fawkes night so i'm sure there's a guy fawkes thing on on this day
00:01:04in history bit at the end of the show we'll get to it we'll get to it all right i'm
00:01:08joined by a special
00:01:09guest today though it's not just me it's not just a solo effort an old school history bro effort i'm
00:01:13joined by the great frank wright how are you this morning oh i'm very well thank you thank you for
00:01:20having me on no no our pleasure are you bright-eyed and bushy-tailed rocking around for the day ahead
00:01:26well i hope i at least looked like it yeah we're saying just before we started some people sort of
00:01:32resent an early an early start like this like 8 a.m is or even half seven when you've got
00:01:37to get ready
00:01:37is a bit early and other people are like no that's fine that's not a problem at all you seem
00:01:42in that camp
00:01:44yes well any excuse to lock myself in the shed and escape my children
00:01:50based based all right all right frank let's get into it then yeah i think you know the show
00:01:57so we look at uh first of all we'll look at the british print media what's going on in fleet
00:02:01street what's that cabal quite frankly an evil cabal of fleet street editors what are they banging on
00:02:05about this morning right well because the midterms happened after they went to print yesterday
00:02:14today's print cycle is they're all still talking about the midterm so a little bit of american
00:02:19politics just to begin with um just out of interest broadly speaking do you care about u.s politics are
00:02:26you really really interested in it read in and around it the history and stuff or you like i just
00:02:30don't
00:02:30it's not me it's not us don't care what's your feelings oh yes yeah i mean u.s politics very
00:02:37significant because of course we lived under the um the regime of liberal democracy which was installed
00:02:43shortly after the great war and i think that that was always an internationalist or if you like a
00:02:49globalist project with the intention that the americans would lead that and in fact it was the
00:02:53wilson administration that first provided the blueprint in the federal reserve i had to say a
00:02:59debt-based issuing system instead of national wealth that would be internationalized as well
00:03:04and of course the wonderful slogan uh fighting wars for the defense of democracy which was first
00:03:10advertised in 1917 and we've been hearing a lot of that ever since haven't we so you have to look
00:03:14at the americans to see what's happening to the international liberal project and and really that's
00:03:19why it's significant too and also because it's usually rather fascinating as well yeah okay you're
00:03:26going back to you're going back to wilson then you're going back to world war one or the end of
00:03:29world
00:03:30one and and that time do you think that's really when the united states between the wars became
00:03:36the hegemon of the world not after world war ii but in the between the war period well i suppose
00:03:44if
00:03:44you want to simplify it there's like three phases it's like the great war uh before and after uh then
00:03:50there's the second world war when the collapsed liberal system was revised uh and revived and and
00:03:56further further furthermore much more closely coordinated after the invention of the cia in
00:04:011947 and then finally after the collapse of the soviet union you could see kind of liberalism enter its
00:04:07third and perhaps most deranged phase where it pursued openly this kind of unipolarity which it
00:04:13did briefly enjoy you know and then uh and now here we are living in its legacy so you know
00:04:18for one
00:04:19example of why that might be an interesting thing to get into i listened to judge napolitano when i went
00:04:24to
00:04:24italy earlier this year and he was talking about a book he wrote about wilson and he was saying that
00:04:29it was wilson who repurposed the government to have an ever-expanding civil administrative bureaucracy
00:04:35that's to say an army of what we now know as the lanyard class that would be funded by this
00:04:40issuance of debt this fractional reserve banking system that now dominates our lives and can collapse
00:04:46and inflate the treasuries of national governments at will and so basically why do you have like
00:04:53pantomime elections a debt-based system and an administrative state that seems to expand into
00:04:59every area of your life um every year every minute it gets bigger and bigger and more intrusive well
00:05:06you'll find the blueprint of all that in the wilson administration so that's why i think that's
00:05:12interesting and i think really if you relitigate the 20th century you can see it as a kind of
00:05:17live verdict taking place across those decades on the liberal system itself and like i said we're
00:05:23living in its legacy today the century the project for the new american century the century is the 21st
00:05:30century so just to be clear we're talking about president woodrow wilson not prime minister harold
00:05:34wilson two very different men so yeah going back to sort of the yeah the world that how the harold
00:05:41the world that woodrow wilson imagined after world war one the type of world where well they didn't
00:05:48like the british empire or empires in general if there was going to be any sort of empire it would
00:05:52be a dollar imperialism it would be the united states at the top and quite explicitly against
00:05:58old world if you can call that old world empires well yeah i mean the first world war bankrupted the
00:06:03british empire and we famously or rather less famously today because everyone's deliberately supplied
00:06:09with a historical ignorance and hollywood fantasies instead of them britain refused to pay its debts
00:06:14in the 1920s to the united states and simply just ignored them and this was supplied as one reason
00:06:20for the punishing rates of interest and the enormous demand for securities in 1941 when we effectively
00:06:27sent all our gold to the united states they took all our bank securities and charged us a phenomenal
00:06:31rate of interest that we had to pay whereas in fact if you know about what happened to lend lease
00:06:36in the soviet union without which field marshal zhukov said the soviets could never have won the war
00:06:43against the germans had the americans not supplied them with near limitless military material and their
00:06:49debt was effectively forgiven in the 1970s but we had to pay every penny the more just just recently
00:06:56actually i've been rereading uh anthony beaver's stalingrad and there he's talking about how the
00:07:02germans the wehrmacht were surprised by how many american vehicles the the soviets had they come
00:07:08across a giant factory and it's entirely u.s built and funded factory it's like yeah a lot of people
00:07:14don't know that yeah that sort of thing well there's all that nonsense about oh the soviets pushed all
00:07:19their factories behind the urals and so no they didn't it was the the u.s basically gave them all
00:07:24the trucks and the artillery and planes and so on and you'll find that you can find archive footage of
00:07:29all this but it's been very carefully um disremembered and not included in a lot of historical documentaries
00:07:35because of the sheer scale of that effort for example from memory i can remember that the arctic
00:07:40fleet lost more um armor than was lost in the military campaign itself that's to say trying to
00:07:46ship this stuff to the soviets resulted in more losses than they did on the battlefield so that gives
00:07:52you an idea of the scale at which stalin was armed by roosevelt yeah there is a a usually unspoken
00:08:03corner
00:08:03of history this is far more frank this is far more interesting than the bloody headlines we've got here
00:08:08talking about trump i'm much more interested in history in the broader picture but i'm gonna have
00:08:12you mean to say that you suspect the so-called news deliberately supplies the public with false
00:08:18false information and ignorance in order to manipulate them into believing in their elections
00:08:22what an extremist you are dear i should never have found this show
00:08:30mind you the news is pretty wacky you know the news is wacky enough to merit attention there's some
00:08:36quite wacky things in there and some interesting things have actually happened the more the more sloppy
00:08:41end of sort of the tabloid print media can be like funny if it wasn't such a serious thing
00:08:47ultimately is funny sometimes yeah um so much of my own chagrin i'll have to claw it back to
00:08:53the the the print media because that is what we're okay the financial times crushing midterm
00:08:58rebuke to trump to trump voters vote republicans from power in u.s congress anger over cost of living
00:09:03spurs democratic blue wave that's the that's the balloon army tsunami balloon army advance pins blame
00:09:10on iran war um as recriminations begin and oil prices tumble just instantly just have a quick
00:09:17check-in with crude we often on this show often check in with the price of crude yeah it has
00:09:21come
00:09:21down i mean not tumble but it's come down quite a lot brent's now trading at shade over 95 dollars
00:09:26a barrel and west texas is just under 88 dollars a barrel a fair few dollars down from yesterday or
00:09:31certainly 48 hours ago anyway um the the fallout from the midterms so trump's administration has
00:09:38lost control of congress and the senate and lots of governorships have gone blue as well
00:09:44many are saying it's a result of people not particularly happy with the iran war the war
00:09:50in persia is not particularly popular and even jd vance has come out and just explicitly said that i did
00:09:55see one other bit of news earlier it was a trump uh sorry don jr don jr has also come
00:10:01out and said
00:10:02yeah people didn't like the iran war thing dad and he trump has come out and said i would do
00:10:08it all
00:10:08again i understand that but if i just have my time again i would do it again what what's your
00:10:13thoughts
00:10:14and feelings on all that frank well first of all the reason that donald trump supplied for that i would
00:10:19do it again despite knowing the cost is iran can never have a nuclear weapon now if you've
00:10:25believe that the iranians have a nuclear weapon or are close to having a nuclear weapon
00:10:31then you have been terribly deceived and misled that's simply not true it's a fantasy the original
00:10:39reason supplied for this excursion that was obviously undertaken at the behest of the israelis
00:10:44and that's still on the u.s state department website by the way that was marco rubio who said
00:10:49they'd launched the war to defend israel effectively so that's not propaganda either the reason that they
00:10:55supplied was regime change in iran now if you are the kind of friendless sad tragic figure that i am
00:11:02you actually go and read up on these things you find out that david barnet was effectively living
00:11:07in the white house for months months ahead of this excursion he was the head of mossad at the time
00:11:13he was the man who said well actually i'd probably better say this um as the war broke out i
00:11:20did a
00:11:20broadcast in which i said that the protest had been orchestrated by mossad to create regime change in
00:11:26iran which was the original reason supplied for the war they wanted to change the regime and they
00:11:32were going to do this by orchestrating violent protests by killing policemen and causing chaos on
00:11:37the model of the mossadek overturning in 1953 now david barnet actually told netanyahu and said that he
00:11:47told donald trump that those protests would not produce regime change in 72 or 96 hours but would
00:11:52perhaps take a year but netanyahu told trump that they'd take a couple of days and it'd all be over
00:11:57by monday and obviously that was an abject lie the reasons supplied for the war have changed
00:12:02consistently you know at one point it was reopening the straits of hormuz and so on so you know he's
00:12:08stuck with the nuclear line because they say that they can't have a rogue nuclear power in the middle east
00:12:12now of course there is a rogue nuclear power in the middle east and it isn't iran it's israel
00:12:19and obviously that's uh that's unsayable in the uh in the u.s political establishment but that's the
00:12:25reason for the battle of the letters between uh john f kennedy and david ben-gurion and of course
00:12:31that arsenal was largely assembled by stolen nuclear secrets and material from the united states itself
00:12:37jonathan pollard was involved in things like that and he was pardoned by president trump i think last
00:12:42year so there's rather murky little backstory to all this but basically look the i said in in at the
00:12:48beginning of the war that it would be a disaster without limits that it would lead to the strategic
00:12:54defeat the united states in the region that the the protests as were were orchestrated by the israelis
00:13:00and that they wouldn't achieve regime change and of course the nonsense idea that killing the supreme
00:13:05leader and bombing civilians including children in an elementary school would lead to the people
00:13:11rising up and uniting with the people who were bombing them was simply just absurd the reasons
00:13:18supplied for this war were absurd it's never been a realistic military goal and this is the reason
00:13:24why since 1979 when benjamin netanyahu at the jonathan conferences that he set up in his brother's name
00:13:30first called for military strikes on places like iran no u.s president has seen fit to do it for
00:13:37the
00:13:37reasons that were supplied to donald trump before he did this one he was warned that all the bad things
00:13:42that happened the global economy the u.s strategic defeat in the region the inability to militarily
00:13:49remove the regime the madness of attacking a fortress so far away natural fortress so far away that has been
00:13:56preparing for all those decades for precisely this event all these reasons were supplied to him and they
00:14:02did not he didn't listen to them but all the presidents before him since 79 did listen to them
00:14:08and that's the reason why it hadn't happened until now because it was a predictable disaster the trump
00:14:13administration actually fired generals that warned him about this and a lot of state department officials
00:14:18who actually know a lot about iran as well they all got the boot because anyone who wasn't on board
00:14:23well simply got excluded and he refused to listen to them and then he watched like video reels of
00:14:28explosions for four minutes every morning supplied to him by susie wiles who has apparently been
00:14:34misleading him about the polling going up to the midterms as well and what's the what's the result
00:14:39of all this well susie was the chief of staff of the white house is now effectively orchestrating
00:14:44the scapegoating of pete hegseth apparently leaking to the media to get rid of him and hang the whole
00:14:50business around his neck before they come for her as well that's a good point that's in the new cycle
00:14:56a lot
00:14:56today that they're yeah they're turning on each other people some say susie wiles herself has to
00:15:00go people saying pete hegseth has to go uh people saying like rubio's look questions swirl about
00:15:07hegseth's future after midterm loss has advanced distances himself from iran war and i've seen
00:15:12various other stories like yeah like susie wiles like trump's thinking about getting rid of her
00:15:16trump's getting written thinking about getting rid of all sorts of people but all that sort of more
00:15:19rumor mill stuff at the moment um but are you making i think you make a a bunch of very
00:15:25good
00:15:25points about bibby's war do you think history right right remember it as bibby's war um they've
00:15:30wanted it ever he has wanted it ever since 1979 hasn't he that's been his baby if history remembers
00:15:38anything it depends on who writes the history doesn't it well there is a very long history of
00:15:43netanyahu's litigation for these wars and effectively he set up two conferences called the jonathan or
00:15:49jonathan conferences named after his late brother who was killed in the israeli raid on entebbe yes
00:15:54that's interesting the purpose of those those conferences which he set up with his dad one in
00:15:591979 in i think jerusalem and then in 1984 in washington was to persuade the americans and the
00:16:06british to abandon diplomacy in the middle east and instead use war to attack what israel designated
00:16:13as terrorist states in a rather now familiar list such as libya iran iraq syria and so on so basically
00:16:21abandon talking to people and being reasonable abandon peace abandon stability and just bomb
00:16:27israel's enemies as much as possible until we destroy all of them and we ruin all their neighbors
00:16:32and israel can then become the dominant power in the region now that was the israeli grand strategy
00:16:37and it's failed now um as as for what as for what's going on here the reason why we're talking
00:16:42about this is as the root cause of the defeat of the republicans is that it was it was predicted
00:16:48i
00:16:48predicted it uh it was obviously going to be a disaster and last night it was jd vance himself
00:16:54who said that there were four reasons that his polars had told him why people were voting democrat
00:17:00instead of republican and those reasons which he said were the reasons that the only reasons they
00:17:04would come back is they had to end the war in iran they had to focus on the cost of
00:17:09living which of
00:17:09course flows from that war they had to put america first oh what a strange idea and they had to
00:17:15change
00:17:15the united states relationship to israel so this has now made the news one question i've got for
00:17:22sorry sorry carry on i'm sorry some some some people have come out and said like kind of foaming at
00:17:27the
00:17:27mouth saying oh jd vance is a traitor and it's it's because of him that the war's failed and so
00:17:32on
00:17:32well this isn't a novel position jd vance hasn't just invented that position in the wake of these uh
00:17:40you know terrible results predictably terrible results for the republican party having now lost
00:17:46the governorships and the the house and the senate even in its heartlands in places like texas which
00:17:52is remarkable and never usually happens so it's exceptionally bad so you know jd vance in 2024
00:17:58gave a speech to the quincy institute for responsible statecraft and that speech was titled
00:18:04realism and restraint towards a foreign policy for the american middle class notably in that speech he
00:18:10asked if we are the moral christian party the republican party why do we keep on having wars that keep
00:18:16genociding christians he said the iraq war had led to the death of one million historic christians alone
00:18:22and he also said he was asked like what are you going to do about stopping the boom and neocon
00:18:27wars and
00:18:27he said well these wars have bankrupted the united states financially and morally and that they they've
00:18:34delivered disaster for the american middle class right in turning what used to be a profitable
00:18:39country into one that's saddled by an enormous national debt because about at least 10 trillion
00:18:45dollars the u.s national debt directly flows from these middle eastern regime change wars which were
00:18:51undertaken as a result of mr netanyahu's very successful lobby in those conferences so he's said
00:18:58vance has said since then that's always been his position that this is destroying the american dream
00:19:04for americans at home that these failed adventures in the middle east right have been disastrous they've
00:19:10been murderous they've killed millions of christians and they've bankrupted the u.s and wrecked the lives
00:19:16of working middle class americans so they need realism and restraint instead and he said in that speech as
00:19:22well america needs to revise what it means to be an ally of the united states and he did mention
00:19:28israel
00:19:28there too so none of this is new it's been vance's position from you know before he took office as
00:19:34vice president this time and that's the reason why he stood next to trump and said it was the peace
00:19:39ticket well frank tucker carlson went as far as to describe donald trump as a slave
00:19:50to benjamin netanyahu and israel would you go that far do you agree to what degree might you agree with
00:19:57that characterization a slave well i think it's interesting to ask why no u.s president since
00:20:041979 except him copped for this plan because the israelis have been presenting the same cock and
00:20:10bull nonsense for all those decades so it is curious you know what's the reason why the united states
00:20:18president would be warned and he was warned by military intelligence by the dni by his strategic war
00:20:24planners by the state department that it would be disastrous and potentially terminal for the global
00:20:30economy that americans would see their cost of living and food and fuel rise inexorably that they'd
00:20:36be humiliated militarily that it would be a disaster diplomatically that it would undermine american
00:20:41security guarantees in the region and it would see the americans being viewed as agreement incapable
00:20:47and now they're also obviously financially incapable of reconstructing the region after the war
00:20:51a role that will probably pass to the chinese instead so you know why why did he do it what
00:20:59what was
00:20:59going on there the the leverage that netanyahu has had over president trump is evident now the nature of
00:21:07that leverage is not wars in persia if you know your history anyone out there are always very very
00:21:12difficult perhaps with the exception of alexander maybe the mongols usually they're very very very
00:21:18difficult and you come to a sticky end attempting something there um one thing though one thing in
00:21:22i think it's an interesting point i wonder what you think about it is that when you look back at
00:21:26history and it's a fate of complete it's already happened you look back it's very very easy and
00:21:31wrong-headed to think that was the way it was always going to be it's obvious in hindsight that that's
00:21:37how that was going to play out but when you look back at history i think very often it's important
00:21:43to look at what happened just before some big event for example
00:21:48the the few weeks the few months before august 1914 is very very important to know in detail
00:21:55so having said that when you look at before this war started in february 2026
00:22:01remember trump had that quite frankly pun intended quite frankly a a a remarkable military success in
00:22:10venezuela you remember that a remarkable operation really and a couple other things like that midnight
00:22:17hammer operation seemed to be very very remarkably successful and do you think that maybe in that
00:22:24window of time january february this year he was just in a mind space where he's like oh we can
00:22:30we can
00:22:30make big moves and they seem to be working israel mossad are saying to me look we know where the
00:22:37ayatollah is if we drop if you give us the green light to drop a few jdams on his head
00:22:42we're going we're
00:22:43going to get him and trump's in this mindset that right now at the end of 2026 seems or is
00:22:49crazy but
00:22:51back then he might have thought we've had some great successes midnight hammer precision real precision
00:22:57strikes and the venezuela thing the maduro thing that was a remarkable a remarkable almost a perfect raid
00:23:05in a way we could do we could pull off something similar here and you know in hindsight it's easy
00:23:10to say that's crazy but at the time his mind might have been in a position where i'm making big
00:23:19moves
00:23:19all over the world changing regimes like that and we could we could pull it off here again it might
00:23:24be
00:23:24it might just be the case i mean it's a gamble seems now or is objectively a crazy gamble that
00:23:32he might
00:23:33have thought if we kill the ayatollah and all the men around him the top two dozen guys that regime
00:23:38there is a realistic possibility that that regime collapses and then there's one less islamic theocracy
00:23:43in the world is it that crazy well i've been uh watching old episodes of the a-team with my
00:23:51son
00:23:51because the a-team is mint and of course who doesn't like explosions but what you've got to realize
00:23:58here is i think you're in danger of overthinking this and and and in fact thinking about it at all
00:24:03because president trump was as everybody knows he knows what was going on shown four minute reels of
00:24:10explosions throughout the war campaign in iran and thought everything was going well because he saw
00:24:15a lot of things being blown up now you say that operation midnight hammer was a success and i would
00:24:21say
00:24:21to you that was a very expensive piece of theater bear in mind this war costs between one billion and
00:24:26two
00:24:26billion dollars per day depending on which day you're counting the cost of it is absolutely eye
00:24:31watering and for what donald trump came on the telly after operation midnight hammer and said that the
00:24:38nuclear capability of the iranians had been obliterated and that was the end of it yeah in fact
00:24:43what they had what it turned out they had done is dropped a lot of money into the dust because
00:24:49it had
00:24:49absolutely zero effect on the military capability of the iranians and there wasn't any kind of nuclear
00:24:54weapons program to obliterate anyway and then strangely enough after operation midnight hammer
00:24:59donald trump keeps going on about the necessity to strike iran to prevent them having a nuclear program
00:25:05which he claimed has already been obliterated that is odd you might not know that the russians
00:25:11actually staffed the iranian nuclear power station at bush air there were hundreds of russian technicians
00:25:17there and there were lots of diplomatic cables going back and forth with the russians warning the
00:25:22israelis and hardly bothering to mention the americans of course saying that if they continue
00:25:27to try and strike because they were the israelis were trying to bomb it if they continue to try and
00:25:32strike that nuclear reactor and killed all those russians that there would be a retaliation from
00:25:36the russians and yet the israelis did from memory four times they tried to blow it up eventually the
00:25:42russians evacuated practically everyone leaving about 30 technicians there and that is obviously subject to
00:25:47international atomic energy agency inspection and it's been constructed in a way and so on that it
00:25:52can't be converted towards building nuclear materials for bombs and things like this so that was
00:25:57completely insane and as for venezuela when you look at that again it looks extremely likely i think
00:26:02it's actually been admitted that you basically had a bunch of paid informants in the country that you'd
00:26:07bribed so it looks a lot less like so again i'd go back to the a team yeah if you've
00:26:13watched the a team
00:26:14and you think that that's real then have a look at the news and then look at the news again
00:26:20yeah
00:26:20yeah don't be bewitched by explosions the doctrine of shock and awe that there's a book written about
00:26:25that called shock and awe and i suggest you read it if you haven't read it it talks to you
00:26:29about the
00:26:29technique that was used in the 2003 iraq war by putting lots of impressive explosions on the telly
00:26:35and then of course the resulting quagmire and humiliation that saw the region handed to the
00:26:41iranians effectively by an extremely expensive military action of the united states at the behest of
00:26:47the israelis again permissioned by a false claim of weapons of mass destruction in iraq there aren't
00:26:53weapons of mass destruction in iran there weren't any in iraq either it doesn't stop them because it's
00:26:59got nothing to do with that these are just talking points supplied to people who are paid
00:27:03to go along with it all are you suggesting b.a barakas is a fictional character and not a real
00:27:09man
00:27:10you're saying the a-team isn't a documentary no no how dare you impugn the reputation of b.a barakas
00:27:16right that's that that's unforgivable i'm just telling you right don't be bewitched by explosions
00:27:22because explosions are awesome and everybody loves them i thought the a-team was like watching
00:27:26explosions it's a documentary series isn't it okay anyway right well but seriously it bewitches you
00:27:35it bewitches you this is a form of spectacle right and here's that there's another kind of
00:27:39different thesis about reading the iq the kind of regime change wars era which is that it produces
00:27:45this kind of violent spectacle that's compelling and but also meant to be somewhat thrilling as a
00:27:50demonstration of unchallengeable power and hegemony whereas in fact what you're seeing is the
00:27:56destruction of an entire way of life of people the attempted destruction as donald trump said of a
00:28:01civilization you're looking at death from above that's turned into a cinematic spectacle and
00:28:08mistaken for victory bear in mind that rather like the nonsensical idea that you could bomb people
00:28:15into loving you in iran we were all told that iraq would soon turn into something like sweden it would
00:28:20become a liberal democracy because we could rebuild the nation in this liberal internationalist
00:28:25liberal interventionist nation building this is the kind of delusions that were supplied to
00:28:30permission this kind of level of barbarism and plunder to play devil's advocate though i mean
00:28:35is the iranian regime not a repressive islamic theocracy is it not
00:28:43what everyone that you want to bomb becomes demonized yeah no i mean i would ask you once again
00:28:51to it will not say that's strong answer and i'd say that everyone that you want to bomb gets demonized
00:28:59and that's part of the technique if it's always been isn't it if you watch yeah yeah yeah that is
00:29:04yeah first you barbarize people in the public imagination and then you start bombing their
00:29:09schools and hospitals but it's a straightforward question is you don't think the iranian the
00:29:13mullahs in tehran are repressive islamic theocrats then i think that's i think that's ridiculous
00:29:21really yes oh i think it's just wrong i know people have been there i know people who are there
00:29:29and here's a here's a wacky thought for you if you dig out the intelligence reports that um trump saw
00:29:35before he launched this mad caper that wasn't never in the american national interest and had no
00:29:40military possibility of success but he did it anyway if you look into that the report said
00:29:46that the iranian population are going to liberalize in a matter of months to maybe a year or two so
00:29:53if
00:29:53you actually did nothing you would probably see the iranian people being increasingly discheesed
00:30:00with the way that their government is disposed right now so you know the idea that you could just
00:30:05then start bombing them and then that would hurry things along it's just mad actually what that
00:30:10i agree with that bit i agree with that that galvanized the population
00:30:15well take you do you not think it was a gangster style if you think these people are stupid look
00:30:21i
00:30:21would ask you to consider the the difference between the iranian negotiating team the iranian
00:30:27foreign minister the kind of things that these people say if you read them and then have a look
00:30:32at what mr witkoff and mr kushner and mr grunberg have been up to now these three men have been
00:30:37going
00:30:37around the world without being officially appointed to any government role as so-called peace envoys
00:30:42but what they've done is they've tried to replace diplomatic negotiations with murder and financialization
00:30:49because don't don't forget the americans and israelis have twice killed the negotiating team of
00:30:55the iranians and so who's the barbarian here secondly to attempt to replace uh negotiations about
00:31:02the survival of your people and your nation with effectively black rock bribery as they've tried
00:31:07in ukraine as well is simply obscene and leaves people speechless like this isn't a negotiation
00:31:12you're attempting to offer me money to sell my people out and that makes perfect sense to people
00:31:17like mr kushner and witkoff whose every peace deal seems to coincidentally enrich themselves so again
00:31:23you know i would say that every accusation here is a confession do you do not believe any of the
00:31:29reports that iran has exported terror across the region nay the world no it's nonsense no it hasn't
00:31:39oh period full stop no it just hasn't it's uh look this is look this is the formula you you
00:31:46get these
00:31:47ideas like oh saddam's this and saddam's that who who supplied saddam hussein with the means to
00:31:53construct chemical weapons and help build his factories to use them in the iran iraq war that was
00:31:58germany and european nations and that's because there was significant western interest in seeing
00:32:04them win that war why should we listen to the mullahs well in that war the ayatollah khomeini said
00:32:11that the use of chemical weapons was haram and despite the fact that his civilians and soldiers
00:32:16suffered terribly by saddam's chemical weapons effectively supplied by the liberal civilized west
00:32:22i might add he still didn't use them that's why when you listen to his successor say iran will not
00:32:28build a nuclear weapon because it's haram you should take him seriously because they had a very long
00:32:32bloody war in which they suffered terribly with the use of chemical weapons and still refuse to build
00:32:37them so they are agreement capable agreement capability means that when people make an agreement
00:32:43you can expect them to uphold it and when the americans and israelis have made agreements with the
00:32:48iranians and then proceeded to either kill or try to kill their diplomats and negotiators
00:32:52so you can see uh for yourself if you have any realistic measure of what civilization and barbarism
00:32:59is if you if you end your agreements with murdering people then i wouldn't say that you're on the side
00:33:05of
00:33:05the angels okay so you don't think that you don't believe the reports that say iran
00:33:14funds proxy paramilitaries around the region like well look i don't believe iran is a major sponsor of
00:33:23international terror i believe that that is an indication of the strategy technique that was
00:33:28developed by benjamin etanyahu 1979 his conferences to simply label israel's enemies as terror states and
00:33:36sponsors of international terror and that's that's worked very well for them and it's worked in every
00:33:41single case you know look at gaddafi look at look at assad uh look at look at saddam hussein and
00:33:48so on
00:33:48you know suddenly these people become monsters and their civilizations have to be wrecked and by the way
00:33:54i think you ought to have a look at the second order effects of these wars which is of course
00:33:59the
00:33:59magnification of mass migration before saddam uh sorry before gaddafi was in fact toppled and murdered
00:34:05brutally uh in a pipe with a bayonet of his jacksy thanks to people like david cameron and hillary
00:34:13clinton in operation odyssey dawn he warned that if you kill him europe will turn black because you'll
00:34:19smash open the floodgates to african migration because the libyans held the back under gaddafi of
00:34:24course and now europe has turned black what a what an amazing coincidence if the u.s proceeds with the
00:34:31next round of war which seems very likely since there's nothing now to restrain mr trump from
00:34:37indulging his greatest ally then the iranians have said that they will no longer restrain their
00:34:42response which seems to be an indication that pardon me all the desalination plants natural gas
00:34:49energy facilities electricity generators in the gulf will be destroyed meaning overnight the all the
00:34:55gulf states become uninhabitable and that's up to another 40 million people they'll be flooding
00:35:00into europe as refugees that could be an apocalyptic event take gaddafi for example you mentioned
00:35:06gaddafi i mean do you not believe the the libyan regime was behind for example the lockerby bombing
00:35:12you think that's a fiction i think um it's probably too complicated to get into here but there is
00:35:19actually quite an interesting um thread to pull out about the lockerby bombing i mean was colonel
00:35:24gaddafi arming people yes he certainly was did did gaddafi have also other things going on that
00:35:31might make him of interest to people who wanted to keep shall we say a debt-based system going in
00:35:36africa yes he offered to back a gold dina to take africans off the european and french-led debt system
00:35:43in the west of africa which is formerly full of french colonial possessions and he said that that was
00:35:49slavery and he had the money to do it and he was going to do it uh and uh that
00:35:54you might consider
00:35:54that to be one reason why he suddenly became you know the greatest monster in the world you know we
00:35:59have a long and um storied history of working with these people until we defenestrate them because a
00:36:04new narrative has come along i mean he came tony blair shook his hand in a tent in london yeah
00:36:09that
00:36:09was remarkable wasn't it that was absolutely remarkable gordon brown let the guy the one the main
00:36:14suspects of the lobby bomber just go home um i mean thank you we've got to move on in a
00:36:19bit but i'm
00:36:19interested in your view and your taking on this i mean take for example saddam hussein you mentioned
00:36:23him earlier i mean there it was aggression in kuwait is that not true wasn't wasn't his state run as
00:36:30something like a personal possession like a gangster family would you not say the hussein family were
00:36:36effectively gangsters well if you want to characterize people like this i think it's important to to
00:36:43recognize that all those straight lines in the deserts are basically oil protectorates that we
00:36:47set up with the french in the wake of the first world war mainly i mean like so you know
00:36:51are these
00:36:52countries real no they're not and i think the interesting question is is whether they're going
00:36:56to survive this latest round of adventurism in the middle east non sequitur non sequitur so i was asking
00:37:01you about the saddam family do you think they did anything wrong deserved to be removed from power
00:37:09what like the borders is another thing we can talk about that but i asked you about whether you think
00:37:14the hussein family deserved to be removed from power by force do you think they've done anything wrong
00:37:20they deserved it but but i mean yeah look uh i think that's really quite um a dangerous way to
00:37:28frame
00:37:28things because when you calculate the value of an action such as a consequential one like this
00:37:35you know what you're going to do are you going to start bombing a nation and so on you're going
00:37:39to
00:37:39mount a large-scale war in that you have to look at the price of action and inaction so you
00:37:45know what's
00:37:46the price of not doing anything and what's the price of doing this and was was the price of doing
00:37:52that realistically calculated i don't think so i'm playing devil's advocate here frank i think the war
00:37:58in iraq was obviously a complete catastrophe so just to be clear i'm playing devil's advocate go on oh yeah
00:38:03yeah but but if you're going to be realistic about and this is why you know i like the idea
00:38:09of realism
00:38:09and restraint in foreign policy because i'm a realist in international relations if you're going
00:38:14to be realistic about it you're supposed to put a reasonable calculus on the things that you do and
00:38:18you don't do and whether a lot you like people isn't really a factor in that because that's an
00:38:23irresponsible way of doing it and it clouds your judgment it's what happens if i do this and what
00:38:29happens if i don't do this and what's the human cost and what's the cost in terms of our credibility
00:38:34and is there a moral cost and do we care about that and so on and i don't think that
00:38:39that calculus
00:38:40was applied there i think that basically you had an objective and you manufactured the case for it and
00:38:45you went ahead and that's what you told the public and i think that's what we're seeing here in iran
00:38:49i think if you look at these wars in this way you can see that there's a formula that's applied
00:38:53consistently across them all and so that's why i would say that you see the systematic demonization
00:38:58of leaders and peoples and civilizations and so on whereas a realistic point of view would be
00:39:04you know is it going to serve our interests to attempt to destroy these people to destroy their
00:39:08nation to kill their leaders to bomb them to spend all this money on the bombs and so on
00:39:13what are we going to get out of it in the end well you know what we usually get out
00:39:17of it in the end
00:39:18is bankruptcy and mass migration and uh and and again a near pariah status in certain regions of
00:39:24the world for continually doing this where has it got us i mean obviously the uh the the fallout
00:39:32after the 2003 invasion of iraq was as i say catastrophic but then i mean saddam did do a war
00:39:40of aggression against iran and kuwait and was going to do against saudi arabia is that not true
00:39:48well of course it's true i mean the reason why it's a it's a significant interest is because
00:39:53a lot of the value of the u.s dollar is guaranteed by the agreements that the saudis made with
00:39:58the
00:39:59americans are in the early 1970s and so if you if you allow i mean if you want to talk
00:40:04about
00:40:04repressive um family dynasties that that dominate oil rich nations look at the saudis i mean the reason
00:40:11why it's called saudi arabia is you know so you are aware of it you may not be aware yeah
00:40:16the majority of its oil wealth is concentrated in a region of saudi that's overwhelmingly populated
00:40:22by shia muslims and when the saudi army goes on exercise it occasionally tosses artillery shells
00:40:28into them because they hate them this is not a cohesive nation in the sense that you know britain
00:40:34is that england is doesn't it these are places are basically with lines drawn around them that are
00:40:40effectively oil protectorates and so some of them are quite big like saudi and then you've got the
00:40:46postage stamp ones in the gulf and if you like they're not real countries in in as much as that
00:40:52the population often have a quite antagonistic view to the dynasties that rule them who are largely
00:40:58installed as a result of imperial power now i don't think they're going to survive this latest round
00:41:04of adventurism because it looks increasingly unstable and i think the map may be significantly
00:41:09redrawn as a result i mean saudi arabia is a very very interesting case i mean um i don't know
00:41:16if
00:41:16you've ever read seven pillars of wisdom t.e lawrence yeah he talks about he took he actually talks more
00:41:22about the king of the hijaz but you've you've the the figure of ibn al-soud is in the background
00:41:27there
00:41:27basically sort of in the background in that book comes into it a bit though that's after it's really
00:41:32after world war one where the supremacy of the house of al-soud is sort of in in the 20s
00:41:38we that
00:41:39wasn't really europe's first pick well it wasn't it wasn't britain's first pick or the united states
00:41:44first pick at all but and nonetheless the meta point you're making about a lot of the borders
00:41:49in the middle east are some sort of like or represent oil protectors this is a very interesting
00:41:54way of putting it um this is fascinating frank i want to have you back on to have some long
00:41:58-form
00:41:58conversation about this stuff because this breakfast show just isn't really the ideal
00:42:04forum for it i'm supposed to be doing the front pages but this conversation's so interesting
00:42:08talk about the front pages then bro no one's twisting your arm all right then vance turns
00:42:13on trump there we go harry bring it back up vance turns on trump in fact let's whip through them
00:42:17because it's mostly the same stuff it's about the midterms the there you go people celebrating
00:42:22vance blames trump's war for crushing defeat uh there we go trump looking unhappy maggot turns
00:42:28on trump look some libtards are over the moon that trump got thrashed lame donald duck doing a bit
00:42:35of a donald duck impression he's a lame duck now you get it you get it very very clever wordplay
00:42:39isn't it frank uh trump dumped again very very clever wordplay all right uh and now the end is near
00:42:47i did it mag away hilarious stuff isn't it hilarious hilarious stuff okay reborn in the usa reborn it yeah
00:42:57we've got lots of puns this morning that's uh what is that um who's the boss you know born in
00:43:03the usa
00:43:04what's his name what's his name you know bruce springsteen bruce springsteen yeah oh here's
00:43:07something slightly different megan markle's dad uh they may well be a third stash of child abuse
00:43:13images in a lock-up in hollywood that the fbi are now gonna uh look into so let's move over
00:43:18that
00:43:19uh and here's with the last story which is actually some british news um from the express it's a good
00:43:24paper you can read your express now uh it says the disbelieving residents of linton on ooze react with
00:43:32incredulity after a government minister says planned sites to house asylum seekers will be
00:43:37away from communities and they're saying you are not listening mr burnham you're not listening to us
00:43:431200 migrants to be put in their 600 person strong community let's talk about that for a moment
00:43:50what do you think about this dispersion of our invaders making sure they're not in hotels anymore
00:43:55and instead we'll disperse them smear them across the country as a whole because
00:44:00if anything rural areas are too what what do you think about all that sort of thing well again
00:44:06partially uh you know a function of political technique when you find a hot button issue and
00:44:11the public are talking about it and what they were talking about was the cost it came down to the
00:44:15cost
00:44:15or the cost of migrants in hotels and we're spending all this money and then that's what you
00:44:20got hammered with on the news well then they came up with a brilliant idea of transferring or if you
00:44:25like percolating the migrants out of the hotels uh into your streets by by renting houses and uh putting
00:44:32like dozens of them uh next door to you which of course is a brilliant idea isn't it so it's
00:44:37a way of
00:44:38shifting the debate because then what what happens if you do that in terms of political technique is it
00:44:43takes time for the news to gabble up the a similar amount of heat and momentum to talk about that
00:44:50and because the last issue was effectively corralled into cost not the injustice of this happening at
00:44:56all but just cost then it'll take a few weeks maybe months for people to start concentrating or for the
00:45:02news to focus on the cost financial cost of doing this in hmos instead and of course it never talks
00:45:09about
00:45:09the cost uh the social cost of this which because it's wholly negative and it never talks about the
00:45:14cost in terms of the damage to political legitimacy and i think that that's the profound issue here
00:45:21is that is the state legitimate when it prosecutes these policies for decades against what we are told
00:45:26is the will of the public which is the fact that every every election since 1997 people have voted for
00:45:33a reduction or reversal of mass migration have got the opposite
00:45:39yeah and the legitimacy of the state of this the social contract if something like that ever existed
00:45:44but nonetheless completely and utterly broken down i mean there's one last story here i wanted to
00:45:51uh bring your attention to or uh get your take on it in uh where was it i think it
00:45:56was in the yes in sky
00:45:58news today gone with the story look at this who are the nationalists behind restore britain growth oh
00:46:06don't do neither you nor i got a name drop but some of the people we know certainly did
00:46:13calen barker they tried to have a proper old calen barker i like calen barker uh yeah i'll put make
00:46:19sure there's no audio on this but yeah they're wringing their hands about nationalism and or
00:46:24horror of horrors ethno-nationalism heaven forbid there's one or two people that might have espoused
00:46:30ethno-nationalist principles that are also members of restore britain so yeah this like seven
00:46:35minute hit piece they've literally got a few wets like a few a few pathetic look look at these
00:46:42sacks of porridge worried about nationalism i mean and it's just it's just a pure hippie all it does
00:46:48really without examining the tenets the the concepts just saying that nationalism and certainly ethno
00:46:55nationalism is just evil it's just evil and bad and you basically you can't have an in-group
00:47:02preference you can't have a tribe of your own everyone else in the world can have a tribe
00:47:06you can't we can't and this is sky news this is sky news and yet at the same time we'll
00:47:12moan about
00:47:13we'll moan about the invasion from small boats and all that sort of thing i mean what's your thoughts
00:47:17and feelings frank when you when you get attacked as we all have or when you see just general purpose
00:47:22hit pieces on restore and rupert and charlie downs and on and on and on how do you feel about
00:47:28what's
00:47:28your thoughts and feelings on that stuff uh speaking in terms of grand strategy in the future
00:47:33you it's basically an argument between the remnants of globalism and nationalism and that's inexorable
00:47:38you can't stop it so basically the international liberal system it's it's dissolving the globalist
00:47:45system is dissolving you can see that its policies are being litigated in real life by ordinary people
00:47:50basically your money's worthless you can't afford anything nothing works uh we've got millions and
00:47:55millions of people who shouldn't be here and they're not uh really improving our lives are they
00:48:00to say the very least and that's that's the same across the western world and so that argument is
00:48:06being made in reality you have the remnants of globalist systems like the suppression of nationalist
00:48:10parties in in europe and probably here as well by intelligence agencies like the cia whose role it is
00:48:16to maintain the globalist or internationalist status quo i might add and that's why they do that and that's why
00:48:22you have these kind of terrible media attempts to just basically smear and demonize anyone who calls
00:48:28for sanity and the restoration of order and dignity to our people because it is a matter of dignity as
00:48:33well and if you talk seriously about the legitimacy of the state which we do that's terrifying to them
00:48:38because they're not legitimate because they have abandoned their duties because the state is not
00:48:43discharging its duties to provide security prosperity and meaning to your life and so those things are very
00:48:49serious and it doesn't matter what they really say in terms of that in terms of halting the procedure
00:48:54because they can never bring their power back because it's over it's finished the liberal international
00:48:59moment is over and what we're going to get next is an argument between its remnant factions whose careers
00:49:06livelihoods fortunes depend on defending that discredited international death machine against the
00:49:13revival of things like religion the consciousness of a people their history their dignity their autonomy
00:49:20their sovereignty and their right to their own homeland and we were told by the internationalists
00:49:26the globalists the liberals that none of these things mattered anymore and that man was simply a
00:49:31function of the market to be managed more efficiently and satisfied with consumer goods is very similar
00:49:36to bolshevism which again was atheist and materialist and said that there was no meaning other than the
00:49:42meaning supplied by its own ideology well all that's finished now and these things are roaring back
00:49:47into life in europe in britain in america elsewhere across the west and it can't be stopped so basically
00:49:53all they've got left is to smear you by telling you that because you're sane and you dare to be
00:49:58sane in
00:49:59public you are a terrible person now if you i mean look if you meet calen bark he's lovely it's
00:50:05very
00:50:05difficult to maintain that impression in reality he is actually a very nice person and i might add
00:50:11i i encourage him to continue to to uh to cultivate that mullet of his because i think it looks
00:50:17dashing
00:50:17he started a mullet this is new to me yeah yeah business out front party in the back just try
00:50:24and
00:50:25check those photos yeah not that i would go for that myself but i think it looks very good on
00:50:29him
00:50:29i think you're quite right that um the new paradigm i mean either way we're talking relatively low
00:50:36resolution but the new paradigm is less left and right and more globalist and anti-globalist or
00:50:42globalist and nationalist wherever you want to put and if we always want to say however you want to
00:50:46phrase it and that the other thing that uh fukuyama you said fukushima there fukuyama said in the 90s
00:50:53that history is over it's the complete and utter full spectrum dominance of western liberal democracy
00:50:58and in that sense history is is finished it's like no very much not history will decide when
00:51:05it's finished not you how did he find it he said that democracy was basically the combination of
00:51:11periodic elections and the access to cheap consumer goods oh and that's the panacea that's that's human
00:51:18that's the human project finished with done that's the final product you don't need anything else
00:51:22as for to return to the opening of the program when you said what's the point or rather why we
00:51:26interest the americans are my i mean like if you look at the american national security strategy
00:51:31that was published uh the latest one that was published in the rubio um what that basically is
00:51:36is a nationalist manifesto it's saying that america is going to work in the national interest and it's
00:51:40going to seek allies in europe and and elsewhere who do the same and so this is basically a statement
00:51:46saying that united states is no longer leading the internationalist liberal or globalist project
00:51:52and instead it's looking to to seek the fortunes of its own nation and its people and so on and
00:51:59that's
00:51:59a significant shift that's a break with the entire post-war settlement that's certainly a break with
00:52:05the unipolar madness of the you know the post-soviet era which if you ask me was a victory by
00:52:11default not
00:52:12the fukuyama moment of this intoxicating belief in free market consumer trash and pantomime elections
00:52:18but it's simply the fact the soviet union failed first and the liberal system is failing now and so
00:52:24what are you going to do next you've got to realistically talk about what does that mean in
00:52:28terms of a coherent policy an international and national strategy for survival and hopefully to
00:52:34promote human flourishing in place of various industries of monetized mass destruction and misery
00:52:41all that seems very very uh uh reasonable and insightful but what you might be forgetting
00:52:47harry bring up the thing what you might be forgetting frank is that evil or racists and bigots like
00:52:54kalen barker exist look sky news is telling us oh yes sorry yes i did look he's trying to stand
00:52:59up
00:52:59for the community the native community in epping forest evil though isn't it pretty pretty despicable
00:53:06behaviour look trying to do right by your own country where does he get off the chutzpah oh no he's
00:53:14put a sticker up oh no oh no report that splash that over national news callum's put a sticker up
00:53:22he's litter picking shame on him
00:53:27okay frank it is now gone 10 to 9 so i'm going to have to draw it to a close
00:53:32there
00:53:33if you can i know you're going i think you mentioned you're going away over the next week
00:53:37or two so i hope you enjoy that but when you're back let me know and i'd love to have
00:53:41a much like
00:53:42have a long longer form conversation about a lot of the things we've been talking about here um i'd
00:53:48be delighted thank you for inviting me back yeah i'm going to go to fatima on friday for a catholic
00:53:54conference in um fatima so i'll be away there for a week but when i come back i will i
00:53:59will inflict
00:54:00myself upon you again thank you for being so kind to me great and of course if and when you
00:54:05ever do
00:54:05come down to the west country sunny wheelchair it's not very sunny this morning um you are welcome
00:54:10here in person anytime you like on the podcast whatever you like so we'll get we'll get that
00:54:14sorted out for you okay again thanks very much for your time frank appreciate it thank you again
00:54:21cheerio for now
00:54:24here you go frank right there
00:54:27here you go you're welcome
00:54:31that was a fascinating uh little conversation there i would like to pick his brain i'd like
00:54:35to drill down into a number of things he said there uh but okay we have got to move on
00:54:40because it's uh
00:54:41nearly five two so we did a poll though didn't we we did a poll uh harry if you bring
00:54:47the poll up for
00:54:48me what did we what did we put here okay over a thousand votes we asked you oh i asked
00:54:52you uh i
00:54:54came up with this one this morning says uh who do you think will be the next republican presidential
00:54:58candidate and you can only put four options in these polls and there's more than four big beasts
00:55:03aren't there in the republican party so anyway i gave you the option of jd vance marco rubio ted cruz
00:55:11and rand paul there's way there's probably much better options than that anyway looks like jd vance
00:55:18is easy he's easily won it team vance is easily out ahead with 53 rubio on 34 little old teddy
00:55:27cruz only managed four percent there and rand paul only got five percent do you know who i like
00:55:35john kennedy not the dead one from 1963 and dealey plaza nightmare on elm street no the modern day
00:55:45senator for louisiana john kennedy i don't know if he'd ever want to do it i don't know i don't
00:55:49know
00:55:49but i like i like him i think he's really good if you know him if you've ever watched uh
00:55:54various
00:55:54committees that he's in i think he's good he seems like a sort of a proper patriot type dude i
00:56:01like him
00:56:01but there's there's quite a few more other big beasts it could be couldn't it um you know even
00:56:08someone like dare i mention chris christie no no no no it seems like anyway that there's momentum
00:56:15behind advance isn't it i mean maybe it's the obvious choices in history it's not always the
00:56:22case not by a long chalk not always the case but very often vice presidents do get the ticket next
00:56:27don't they i think when you go back and look historically more often than in in recent years
00:56:34recent decades but nonetheless you think it's jd vance okay well you do i think you do so more than
00:56:43half of you think it would be and it's over 1100 votes now so okay that was our poll for
00:56:47today
00:56:47that was our poll all right let's do on this day in history i've got to do more recordings
00:56:52today again so i can't be here till sort of half past or quarter to quarter to uh 10 so
00:56:58let's uh look
00:56:59at this day in history the 5th of november remember remember the 5th of november guy falk's day so
00:57:04first of all we've got um in the year 1492 when christopher columbus sailed the ocean blue he
00:57:09christopher columbus learns how to grow and harvest maize which the rest of the world called corn
00:57:15from cuba's indigenous population did he he didn't know how to plant things
00:57:22corn isn't that difficult it's not like a specialist plant particularly
00:57:28the indigenous people of cuba taught christopher columbus how to put seeds in the ground did that
00:57:34did they all right on this day in 1556 the second battle of panipat where i don't know much about
00:57:42this a hindu emperor was uh defeated and killed by a mogul mughal emperor akbar admiral akbar
00:57:49sorry emperor akbar of the muslim the muslim mughal mughal empire
00:57:56who finally liberated liberated the hindus from the moguls in the early 19th century late 18th century
00:58:06sir arthur wellesley goes on to become the first duke of wellington you're welcome hindus you're welcome
00:58:17okay next thing 16 on this day in 1605 oh here we go catholic conspirator guy fawkes attempts to blow
00:58:23up king james i the son of mary queen of scots and the british parliament in the gunpowder plot
00:58:31the plot is discovered and guy fawkes is caught tortured and later executed along with seven others
00:58:36celebrated ever since as guy fawkes day his effigy is traditionally burned on a bonfire accompanied by
00:58:42fireworks yeah um on my own history themed show bow day's bow day's epochs
00:58:50a body of work literally and quite without exaggeration hundreds and hundreds of hours
00:58:53of history themed content built up a body of work built up over more than five years closer to six
00:58:57years on my series my intermittent series on the english monarchy all the way from all the way
00:59:04from alfie the great all the way up to well arguably all the way from roman britain all that i'm
00:59:09now doing
00:59:09queen elizabeth the first so i'll get up to james james is next next up to bat after queen good
00:59:16queen
00:59:16best if you didn't know it's james the first um so it won't be long it'll be a few weeks
00:59:22until i'm
00:59:22talking about i'll talk of course we'll talk about the gunpowder plot um so yeah only in a few weeks
00:59:28i'll be talking all about all about that guy fawkes it was a it was a catholic thing wasn't it
00:59:33because
00:59:33james james was a proddy you see he was a scottish protestant and uh there was still a strong catholic
00:59:41movement catholic sympathies in england at that time it's not that long is it only like two generations
00:59:50arguably three at most since henry the eighth broke with rome what henry the eighth broke with rome in
00:59:57what the 1530s the mid-1530s so well it is a good 60 70 odd years later but nonetheless
01:00:06catholicism didn't just disappear anyway anyway it's a fascinating thing we'll go on about it in detail
01:00:12when it when i come to it on epochs bodane's epochs okay on this day 1937 adolf hitler informs his
01:00:18military leaders in a secret meeting well wasn't that secret was it of his intention to go to war
01:00:24i'm not sure where they're getting this from on this sometimes this site is
01:00:28questionable i've caught them out a few times or something that's just wrong or a massive spin
01:00:33what war not world war ii there's no what we call now world war ii talk about war with
01:00:41poland or with the sudetenland well czechoslovakia or something
01:00:47where are they getting that from is that from spears inside the third reich
01:00:53it's interesting they don't put any sort of uh any sort of footnote or anything further on that
01:00:58exactly what they're talking about there what meeting exactly though what one who what what what
01:01:05military leaders what cattle what ones are you talking about exactly all right on this day 1956
01:01:12britain and france land airborne forces at port saïd in egypt escalating the sewage crisis
01:01:18i haven't done any long form content on the sewage crisis i probably will at some point but what i
01:01:22have done is uh not full long form but like a 20 minute half hour video on state of politics
01:01:28state of politics my other channel i've got with nate go to the stain can harry
01:01:35state of politics i've done a long video well half hour long video there about anthony eden
01:01:41all about anthony eden there so if you want me talking at least in some detail about
01:01:45about uh the sewage crisis you can check that out it's a very interesting
01:01:50bit ignominious but interesting episode in english british history and french and israeli
01:01:59and egyptian it's an interesting thing and american ike ike wasn't happy that we didn't
01:02:05tell him we were going to do it and then refused to back us up after the fact thanks ike
01:02:12it's white de isenhauer the president of the united states i'm talking about there
01:02:14not ike out of south park okay and the last one here in 1979 the supreme leader of iran the
01:02:20ayatollah khomeini describes the united states as the great satan amid accusations of imperialism
01:02:26and the sponsoring of corruption there you go the ayatollah khomeini according to frank
01:02:34right has done nothing wrong oh whoa whoa i'll misrepresent him there he's not here to defend
01:02:38himself that's not fair that's not fair i wonder if you're still watching frank i'm only mucking
01:02:45about money mucking about mate don't or maybe you would argue he hasn't done anything at all wrong
01:02:52but anyway because what the the uh the iranian revolution is much earlier in the year in 1979
01:02:59isn't it it's beginning of the year it's like february or something so by the end of the year
01:03:05yeah the great satan okay all right let's now look at our rumble rants and super chats let me do
01:03:11this
01:03:11with my mic boom so i can see the left hand side of my screen all right let's have a
01:03:16look at the
01:03:16rumble rants first that's what we always do first the completely uh arbitrary system i've made up for
01:03:21myself on the bow show global church history is in at number one and still reigning defending
01:03:29it's great to have global church history back isn't it isn't it we always gives us a couple
01:03:33of factoids what have we got here then you say today in 1362 ad the romani stroke gypsies were
01:03:40first documented on the adriatic coast and you put in brackets their first definite mention in england
01:03:46was 1512
01:03:51i thought the the that that that people that tribe or whatever you want to call it was much
01:03:56older than that but um if you say so the first ever documented oh okay perhaps you're saying the
01:04:03first time they're ever documented on the adriatic coast not the first time they've ever documented
01:04:08okay that's an interesting note anyway interesting note and then the second factoid you've got for
01:04:14us is you say in 1688 william the third landed at brixham so that's william of orange that one
01:04:23william of orange of william and mary fame
01:04:28it's the glorious revolution isn't it 1688 when parliament said talk about james the second
01:04:36we don't we don't want the stewarts anymore we don't want catholic stewarts ruling over us anymore
01:04:42on your bike we're going to get over the first protestant we can find well no that's not fair
01:04:47that's super low resolution that's not how it went but we got a protestant in waiting in the person of
01:04:53william of orange from holland you're up william it's your turn to come be king of england
01:05:02could you characterize that as us being conquered by the dutch i wouldn't but some have you could say
01:05:08that in a sense couldn't you then the stewarts are scottish the tudors were welsh
01:05:18antigenates were french
01:05:21it's been a long time since you have a proper english king proper english king
01:05:28it's called the sex coberg gothers
01:05:32german all right
01:05:35fortian barber says morning mate all right i'm all right tar good yeah i'm fine thanks i'm glad you
01:05:41are then you put i can confirm that the breakfast with bow mug is high quality
01:05:45yeah oh yeah proper high quality yeah proper mug that
01:05:52but everyone should get something from the store you're doing my job for me and i appreciate you
01:05:57thank you you're shilling the merch store yeah go to the merch store um yeah buy some buy some merch
01:06:02but buy a boat bow show t-shirt um so everyone should get something from the store keep the lights
01:06:07on there frank was a good guest yeah frank's very very interesting person very very interesting person
01:06:12i couldn't say i agreed with every single take he said there i mean quite obviously i didn't but
01:06:17fascinating fascinating person very well read there's no doubt his knowledge is extremely deep
01:06:22isn't it okay next one up here smoky bongo
01:06:28that's what this person's called him smoky bongo and with a relatively general super chat as well
01:06:32it's new that name doesn't ring a bell with me so thanks smoky bongo you've put
01:06:36you've put morning bow all right i'm all right thanks good good stuff then you put
01:06:41how much of an influence do you think nick fuentes had on the election results it'd be
01:06:47interesting to see the exit polls broken down by age and race well of course i know who nick
01:06:52fuentes is and i saw his interview i saw him on tucker i saw him on piers morgan and extra
01:06:58to that
01:06:58i've watched probably all in all over the years in little bits maybe an hour or two in total in
01:07:07grand total worth of nick fuentes so in other words what i'm saying is i don't watch nick fuentes much
01:07:12at all i've watched a bit of his content but not my i don't certainly don't follow him don't keep
01:07:18tracks on what what he's like his latest take or anything like that so i have to say that first
01:07:24and
01:07:24foremost i must say most of what i've seen of him seems pretty reasonable and based
01:07:32but but as i say i've only watched a relatively small amount so it would be unfair i think for
01:07:37me to completely pass judgment on the kid say kid he's a grown man uh but um it was terrible
01:07:45when
01:07:45someone came around his house with a gun remember that that's ridiculous that's terrible nobody deserves
01:07:50that um what effect he actually had on the election result i i don't know i don't know enough about
01:07:56it
01:07:57he's more sort of in the u.s zoomer sphere i'm more the uk millennials
01:08:05no or not even millennials more like gen gen x's
01:08:10so
01:08:13yeah anyway anyway i don't know why he's been particularly was i was because i was about to
01:08:19say i don't know why he's been massively demonized but i do know we all know right
01:08:24all right okay the next two are from big pig dog 5150 who says susie wiles is a vile and
01:08:32disgusting
01:08:33traitor oh tell us what you really think susie wiles is a vile and disgusting traitor says pig dog
01:08:39five one five zero uh she has blocked people from stopping the persecution
01:08:46of eight of of amish farmers farmer companies big food and farmers from free trade absolute scum
01:08:55well if all those things are true that is pretty scumbag behavior isn't it
01:09:00yeah the next one seems like it's also about susie wiles she says trump not firing susie wilds
01:09:05you think why at wiles you think she's not gonna he's not gonna fire susie wiles uh todd blanche and
01:09:12other deep state filth proved proved to me early on that trump hadn't learned from his first term
01:09:18and uh and that he was doomed trump is a fool moron failure
01:09:26it's pig dog five one five zero
01:09:29you know the mega crew will be annoyed oh why are you suffering from trump derangement syndrome bro
01:09:33oh you've got a cute trump derangement syndrome bro
01:09:40yeah i stopped caring about that a while ago
01:09:43any criticism of trump and you've got trump derangement syndrome don't think so no don't think so
01:09:48okay dragon lady chris the final uh the final
01:09:52rumble right here from dragon lady chris says well to be fair the actual heir was mary the second oh
01:09:58we're
01:09:58william of orange you're bouncing off the william of orange thing okay cool you put well to be fair
01:10:02the actual heir was mary the second yeah quite right uh william's wife yeah he merely married her
01:10:08that's yes that's right but he became king didn't he not just royal consul he became king
01:10:15he refused to be a mere prince consul oh sorry preempted what you've just said there
01:10:20so that's right that's right it was mary is the
01:10:24is the the the heir the regnal heir legally and he was merely her husband but as you've said and
01:10:33you
01:10:33know he did because he was made full king and uh well the whole point of it though wasn't it
01:10:39was that
01:10:40parliament the ultimate cockpit of power who sets policy national policy foreign policy even would be
01:10:49parliament not the crown that was sort of the deal yeah william of orange or mary is not deciding who
01:11:00england is or isn't going to go to war with not exactly anyway i mean he'd have a say the
01:11:04king still
01:11:05had a say in all those things for centuries more but far from an absolute monarch far from the type
01:11:14of
01:11:14monarch that um that james the first was or henry the eighth was or charles the first tried to be
01:11:23far from that far from that by that point you know sounds like you already know okay that's the last
01:11:28run around let's have a look at the youtube ones okay we've got 20 or so a dozen or more
01:11:35let's rip through
01:11:36them whip through them so we've got ljmv i think you were first in yesterday weren't you so
01:11:41hello and still reigning defending ljmv you put bo frank you magnificent men
01:11:50thank you you put why isn't frank hired by restore doing interviews and debates against the other
01:11:56parties he should be a spokesperson a fair question he's very eloquent isn't he frank frank is a very
01:12:05very eloquent person he's got the arguments at his fingertips that's up to the leadership at
01:12:11the store i have nothing i have no input on any of that i'm merely a member at this point
01:12:16okay the
01:12:18next one is also ljmv who says europe needs europe needs not move away from the us the demographics are
01:12:26doomed elon musk elon musk needs to create his own hollywood and media the left only at the moment
01:12:32that would be nice yeah if i was bill gates rich or elon musk rich
01:12:39i would consider trying to start a a movie studio you know where 10 billion dollars isn't too much of
01:12:50a
01:12:50big deal even a hundred billion dollars you could stretch to maybe start a studio and pump out based
01:13:00patriotic nationalist films
01:13:06it'd make a world of difference couldn't it i think it would
01:13:11fight them at their own game
01:13:15pro-white films high budget films
01:13:22yeah it's not it's not it's far from a ridiculous idea yeah okay
01:13:31liminal nemi nemius i don't know how you want that pronounced i think that's right liminal nemius
01:13:37says
01:13:40bows britain for a britain done right and he spelt right with a w like frank right
01:13:46bows britain for a britain done right
01:13:49quite like that slogan it's quite good okay uh bob bob bob 16496 tht says
01:14:00as an american this is the uk version of zero seats for conservatives we want america first
01:14:06not slow decline we are behind you guys but we are close yeah like tatum superfan tatum
01:14:13said that and i get it i get the i get the concept i do i absolutely get it you're
01:14:18punishing trump and
01:14:19mager yeah i understand okay the next two are from emily for restore who says frank's hatred of israel
01:14:31is breathtakingly myopic frank you've had you've had the had the gauntlet throw down at you there
01:14:39emily for restore is not impressed
01:14:42the next one she says millions of iranians are pro-us war anti-irgc i think that's also true
01:14:51that's that's true isn't it i think that's true as i'd love to drill down with frank about
01:14:58well a number of things he said today on the show but perhaps just iraq just the history of persia
01:15:03and
01:15:03the um the iran iraq war uh the iranian revolution
01:15:09drill down with some data points that would be interesting to see
01:15:14i mean there's loads of things he's a type of person isn't he like um i don't know like apostolic
01:15:19majesty or like tom rosell or godfrey bloom where you could just talk and talk and talk
01:15:26he's the the depth of his knowledge is feels bottomless so you're like well what about this
01:15:30what about that what's your opinion on this what about that you don't have to agree with him on
01:15:34absolutely everything everything but uh it's it's fascinating fascinating i do agree with him on
01:15:40most stuff okay next one is ljmv again who says the left get a constant backing from billionaires
01:15:49when are the right going to get funding instead of the old boomer attitude of pull yourself up yeah
01:15:57well i was seeing a sort of story this morning that apparently uh spacex stroke tesla so in other
01:16:05words elon musk did give something like 450 million dollars to various republican candidates in these
01:16:11last midterms apparently that's when that's what one news story was telling me this morning
01:16:18but yeah why not more yeah why not or more widespread yeah well different countries may
01:16:26well have different laws about foreign investment but yeah like the way george soros seems to have um
01:16:35funded various activist da's district attorneys in the united states could there not be a right-wing
01:16:41version equivalent of something like that jules soros's uh wealth is not a not a fraction of elon's is it
01:16:55then this is money to do what he wants with isn't it okay although elon musk isn't the only rich
01:17:00man
01:17:01in the world is he you make a good point ljmv all right next one global foot job history says
01:17:10please ask commissioner commissioner gordon if batman has any ideas to stop the democrats yeah
01:17:17that man we need batman he'll save us tatum 2733 says if only pat buchanan wasn't 90
01:17:27dream president really you want pat buchanan as is worse as is worse is he that old is pat buchanan
01:17:33that old now didn't know he was that old he must be he was 90 are you exaggerating little harry
01:17:42just
01:17:43quickly google pat buchanan age be interested to see if he is actually 90. okay next one's ljmv again
01:17:49he says white americans should move to alaska create a new society while the mainland falls the demographics
01:17:57are so screwed i would say don't do that because there's no point running away because it will just
01:18:01come for you there in alaska it's that this the argument oh i'm going to leave britain i'm going
01:18:07to go live in australia or somewhere or canada or whatever or rural idaho or something or alaska
01:18:12it's going to come for you there though what you've bought yourself a little bit more time maybe and
01:18:17in the time and in in the meantime you've you've sacrificed you've given up on a whole swathes
01:18:23of your ancestral homeland in the meantime there's no point running away
01:18:29i understand the sentiment but there's just it will come to wherever you are
01:18:39okay penultimate one here today from james lee pevenhole says
01:18:45thomas kiviet knivet don't know who that is
01:18:50found a man in the westminster undercroft the man asked have you got a light mac
01:18:57he can viet answered no mate a dark overcoat i don't know what you're talking about
01:19:01is that one of the is that one of the um other co-conspirators of guy fawkes is that what
01:19:06you're
01:19:06talking about i think that's what you're talking about but did he really say have you got a light
01:19:14he wouldn't have said have you got a light mac that's like something like someone from new york in
01:19:19the 1920s would say hey mac got a dime for a cup of coffee no mate a dark overcoat i
01:19:29don't know if
01:19:29that's a joke or a real quote or what's going on but um sorry about that i plead ignorance on
01:19:34that one
01:19:36okay and the last one here from sam against goat lovers that's what he's called himself at sam
01:19:41against go look dope lovers all one word he's put frank looks like howard from the mighty bush
01:19:50i watched a little bit of mighty bush but not loads i can't remember what how who howard is from
01:19:55that
01:19:55what howard looks like okay little harry did you not look up pat buchanan i did yeah he is 88
01:20:02oh he is 88 right so not far off knocking 90
01:20:07bring up howard from the mighty bush i can't remember if that's being nice to frank or that's
01:20:13really insulting i can't remember i can't remember some of my friends still um
01:20:19thought mighty bush was brilliant and hilarious and they watched it religiously others like myself was
01:20:25like yeah it's kind of funny it's not the best thing ever so it's kind of funny oh oh right
01:20:31oh that
01:20:31guy that main guy okay that's not that rude that's that's reasonably kind that guy's like a he's
01:20:37not a preacher man remember him he's the same actor that was in um nathan barley anyway okay all
01:20:43right that's the show 20 part is now 20 past nine in the a.m greenwich meantime on guy fawkes
01:20:48day
01:20:51the 5th of november in the year of our lord 2026 thank you for joining me without you guys it
01:20:56isn't a thing really really appreciate it try and make the best of the day ahead if you can if
01:21:00your
01:21:00time is your own try and make it count it's the most valuable thing you will ever have is your
01:21:03time
01:21:05and it's finite try and make it count if you can i won't get too preachy you do you
01:21:08okay guys and gals until tomorrow morning then take care