00:00Lisa McCoy, pleasure to meet you.
00:02Davis Butterworth, Member of Parliament.
00:04Lovely to meet you, Lisa.
00:05I see you have a map here.
00:07So this red line, this represents the border wall, does it?
00:13Well, I'm sure you know that, I mean, there is no wall on the border.
00:17Let's not get bogged down in the detail here.
00:20It's the job of politicians to come up with the big ideas.
00:23It's the job of civil servants, like yourself,
00:25to deal with the nitty-gritty of putting those grand ideas into practice.
00:31Congestion charging, you know,
00:32every time a vehicle passes into central London, it's given a bill.
00:37Why not just do the same with the border here?
00:39Well, the main issue with that, Davis,
00:40is that some people living on the border have to cross it, what, four times a day?
00:44I don't think it'd necessarily be quite fair to charge them for their journey.
00:48Well, they could walk, couldn't they?
00:49Or the other solution is they have one vehicle one side of the border
00:52and another vehicle the other side of the border
00:53and they simply transfer from one vehicle to the other,
00:56thereby avoiding the charge.
00:57Then you want them to buy two cars?
01:00Yes.
01:01Now, I'm surprised that no-one's thought of this before.
01:04Google Earth.
01:05Why not have a couple of your chaps sat in the control room
01:09monitoring the border on Google Earth
01:11and if they see a vehicle crossing the border in a suspicious manner,
01:15then you guys can swoop in
01:17and ask the driver some jolly difficult questions, you know?
01:20I'm not quite sure, Davis, that that's right.
01:23Listen, I've done my homework here.
01:25You know, the other night,
01:27I watched a bit of the border on Google Earth myself
01:29and not a single vehicle crossed the border in that 20 minutes I was watching.
01:33So the problem is nowhere near as big as we think it is.
01:38Well, Google Earth is just a picture.
01:40It's not a moving image.
01:43Ah, that's a blow.
01:44I have to say that is a blow.
01:45You're being very negative about this.
01:47I think it's an Irish trait, always finding fault.
01:49You know, why don't we just take it back to the Troubles,
01:52get some roadblocks in, get the army back,
01:54and, you know, we're all British together, after all.
01:57What's the big deal?
01:58What's the big deal?
01:58What's the big deal?
01:58What's the big deal?
01:58What's the big deal?
01:59You
