00:00You took your kids to see Taylor Swift at Wembley, as we all know. Gorgeous lady.
00:05And she had a picture with you and your family backstage.
00:10Now, are you aware of the significance of this picture?
00:13So, I wasn't until recently. I hadn't appreciated the significance.
00:17And actually, I was trying to move him out of the photo.
00:20Travis kept coming back in, and I couldn't work out why he kept coming back in.
00:23I was trying to move him out, so it was just me and Taylor and the children.
00:26Are you sure?
00:28No, so this was when they went photo official.
00:30Apparently, yeah.
00:30Yeah, they'd never been seen to be.
00:31Oh, that's the first time.
00:33I know.
00:35And seeing you with the kids there, it seems like you're trying to give them as close to normal, you
00:41know, up-grubbing as possible.
00:42Apart from hanging out with Taylor Swift.
00:45A good example.
00:46Yeah, you've got to give them something.
