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Washington is staring at a brutal 1-5-1 spiral if they drop Sunday night's rivalry game. The Junkies break down why one more loss could officially trigger the franchise's total collapse.
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00:00I think if they win the game, you're going to feel okay on Monday morning.
00:04You'll crash after.
00:05No, I'm pretty sure they're going to lose.
00:07But you'll feel pretty good because we're playing, you know,
00:09we're playing hail to the Redskins.
00:12I'm pretty sure we're going to lose.
00:13It's just turning into one of those seasons where everything just goes.
00:16Everything's wrong.
00:17I don't think they will lose, but if they lose.
00:19Why are you looking at me like that?
00:20I'm pretty sure we're going to lose.
00:21What happens?
00:22Is it time to play Titanic?
00:23That's what I honestly think.
00:24I actually think.
00:25I honestly think we're going to lose.
00:26If Drab put this question on the outline,
00:28I almost think it's rhetorical.
00:30It's 100% time to play Titanic if they lose to the Eagles
00:34and Tanner McKee on Sunday night football.
00:37Didn't we play Titanic already?
00:39We did, but then we pulled it back based on the division.
00:42Banks decided out of nowhere that he gets to decide when we play it
00:46because it's his machine.
00:49He just all of a sudden.
00:50But you're right.
00:50I mean, after seven weeks, seven games anyway,
00:54that Washington, if they're 1-5-1,
00:57the percentages of making the playoffs,
01:00then you'd have to win the division.
01:01That might be unprecedented.
01:02It'd probably be 1%.
01:03Has a team ever started out 1-5-1 or 1-5 and made the playoffs?
01:08You know what?
01:08I'm going to ask Grock.
01:09But Cakes also played it because Jaden Daniels went down
01:12with the dislocated elbow, right?
01:14And he's come back.
01:15And Jaden, when he's been playing,
01:17has been playing relatively well.
01:19I think he's played good football.
01:20A couple bad decisions,
01:22and maybe he needs to be more aggressive,
01:23but he's played good football.
01:24But he played the Titanic because they started off 0-2
01:27and Jaden had the injury.
01:29And I think it was fair at the time,
01:31but then all of a sudden,
01:32we started seeing the changing landscape of the division,
01:36and so we pulled it back.
01:37We didn't continue to play Titanic on the show.
01:40But after this week, yes.
01:41But after this week...
01:43How about Washington?
01:44In 2020, we started out 1-5 and made the playoffs.
01:46That was the wrong year.
01:47We went 7-9 and made the playoffs.
01:49And that's why we pulled back...
01:50So it's actually happened four times.
01:52Because this is a year
01:55where nobody's going to run away with the division
01:57with 12 or 13 wins.
01:58It's not happening.
01:59Okay?
02:00If the Giants win the division,
02:02they're probably going to win nine games.
02:04Be lucky.
02:05Possibly.
02:05Right?
02:06There's a chance where it could be a 500 team
02:08or a team below 500 to win the division.
02:11That's just the way it is.
02:13But let's say they lose this game,
02:15and you're 1-5 and 1.
02:17One year from Commanders fans,
02:18what do you do at that point?
02:191-800-636-1067.
02:22Look, we do it as a bit.
02:23We play Titanic.
02:24I would...
02:25And a lot of people would have moved on
02:28from Dan Quinn during a bye week
02:30because it seems to be in a more natural spot.
02:33Give the new coach two weeks to ramp up before a game.
02:36But if they were to lose this game,
02:39they have a rest advantage.
02:41Right?
02:41They've had two weeks off
02:42to prepare for a beleaguered Eagles team.
02:45Eagles played on Monday Night Football.
02:47That is a short week
02:49for the Philadelphia Eagles.
02:51There is no excuse to lose this game.
02:54And Valdez brought up a good point during the break.
02:56One of the things which Dan Quinn has had to talk about is
02:58it seems like in many games this season,
03:02they're able to have a good half.
03:04They need two...
03:05They haven't put a game together
03:06except for, I guess you could say,
03:07the Seahawks game.
03:09Right?
03:09But they'll have a good half
03:11against the Cowboys.
03:12Good half.
03:13Then Jaden gets hurt.
03:13They fall apart in the second half.
03:15Had a pretty good start against the Colts
03:17and then it went downhill after the fourth down.
03:20The Niners,
03:21the first game,
03:22first half was abortion.
03:24Second half, they dominated.
03:25Second half, they come back.
03:27Can they put a game together?
03:28There really are no excuses
03:30when you have two weeks to prep for it.
03:34Well, I would agree.
03:35I mean, it's a must win.
03:36And yes, you can play the Titanic if they lose.
03:38But I'm just wondering
03:39why they can't put a game together,
03:42a full game,
03:43of a pretty good defensive performance.
03:45It just hasn't happened yet.
03:47And I'm just wondering why.
03:49I mean, part of me thinks
03:49they're just not good enough.
03:50The personnel hasn't been good enough.
03:52But now they're getting more guys back, right?
03:54They were really beleaguered.
03:55Now, offensively,
03:56you don't have Terry McLaurin.
03:59Yeah.
04:00I think that'll be fine.
04:01Dan Quinn talked yesterday
04:02that Antonio Williams
04:04is going to be a bigger part of the offense.
04:06And I think Traylon Burks
04:07has had some opportunities.
04:08This has shown something.
04:09Like, I'm not as worried about
04:11the wide receiver position for them.
04:12Because I see teams around the league
04:14that have wide receivers out all the time
04:16that are fine.
04:17Yeah, I've always kind of said that.
04:18As long as they can run the routes,
04:19do what they're supposed to do.
04:20I mean, they may not have guys
04:21that can take it to the house.
04:22It's one fewer guy.
04:24One, you know, less explosive person.
04:27But yeah, as long as they run the routes.
04:291-800-636-1067.
04:33Eric Pickle, would you fire Dan Quinn?
04:35And if they...
04:35Let's say they just lose.
04:37I'm not going to...
04:37No, we say they get embarrassed.
04:38Let's say they lose...
04:41Yesterday in the third quarter,
04:42the Eagles had a lead.
04:43So let's say they lose 24-20.
04:45No, if it's a close game
04:46and they're fighting or whatever
04:47and they just happen to lose,
04:49no, I probably wouldn't fire him.
04:50I mean, he's going to get fired.
04:51It's over.
04:52It's going to take literally a miracle.
04:55You know, like a Noah's Ark thing.
04:56To save his job.
04:58Jason Bishop, what do you do with DQ
05:00if they lose?
05:01But I wouldn't fire him
05:02if they fight for four quarters
05:03and it's a close game.
05:04All right, so if they get blown out,
05:06okay, you can find him.
05:06Blow him out?
05:07Yeah, sure, it's different.
05:08But when you fire a coach mid-season
05:09after seven weeks,
05:10you're giving up on...
05:11You're telling your team
05:12you're giving up.
05:13Yeah.
05:13So it doesn't help anything.
05:14What I wouldn't do is...
05:16Still have nine games left.
05:17If they were to lose this game,
05:18you'd have nine games left in the season.
05:20You could have a new coach,
05:21new voice salvage a season.
05:23Right, but as you know...
05:24No, but you've got the same players.
05:25Yeah.
05:25As you know,
05:26it rarely makes a big difference in football.
05:29Sometimes in baseball,
05:30actually, you know,
05:31they change managers
05:31and they can go on a run.
05:33But it has happened.
05:34I agree, it's rare
05:35because usually a team stinks
05:37when they fire a coach.
05:38And so there's only so much
05:39a coach can do.
05:41But you know what else is rare
05:42that sometimes happens
05:43is teams start out one in five
05:45and then turn it around
05:46and go on a run.
05:47Like the Commanders did in 2020.
05:50Like the Colts did in 2018.
05:51Like the Chiefs did in 2015.
05:53And like the Bengals did back in the day.
05:57So, you know,
05:59unless they get humiliated,
06:02I would probably,
06:03they're probably just going to
06:04ride it out with DQ.
06:05You actually believe deep in your heart
06:07that they're going to lose on Sunday night?
06:09I think, yeah,
06:10it's just turning into one of those seasons
06:11where it's just hell.
06:13So it's just kind of a negative view I have.
06:15If you believe that,
06:16then to me,
06:17you've lost belief in your guy.
06:18No, I haven't lost faith in Jaden,
06:20but I do think that...
06:21Well, if you have faith in Jaden,
06:22he's got to win a game
06:23every once in a while, doesn't he?
06:24I agree, I agree.
06:25So to me,
06:26you've lost a little faith.
06:27I've lost a faith in a team as a whole.
06:29Listen, Jaden,
06:30you guys can all criticize him
06:32as much as you want.
06:33He's not the reason why they're
06:341-4-1 or whatever.
06:36The reason why their record
06:38is because they don't make stops,
06:40they can't run the football,
06:41they can't protect,
06:42all these things.
06:43I mean, has he missed some plays?
06:44Sure.
06:44But he's the only reason
06:45why they're even competitive.
06:46He's the reason they have a tie.
06:48He's the reason why
06:48they're even competitive.
06:49No, no, he's the reason
06:50they have a tie.
06:51Okay, you could hang that one on him.
06:52Sure.
06:53Well, as long as you mentioned it,
06:54Of course.
06:55No, you can hang that one on him.
06:56That was bad.
06:56But he's the reason
06:57why they're competitive.
06:59He's finally come around on that
07:00because, remember,
07:01he didn't want to put it on Jaden at first.
07:02Well, no, I still think Blau is a clown
07:04and I still think DQ's a clown.
07:06But if you want,
07:07I think I even tweeted on the day of,
07:09go look at my tweet,
07:10the day of,
07:11and the second after it happened,
07:12I said Jaden's all the...
07:13I don't care about your tweet.
07:13I just remember talking about it on the show.
07:14The tweet is what I think.
07:16The tweet is me thinking.
07:16On the show,
07:17you said it was all on Quinn
07:19until Thursday.
07:20I did not say it was all on Quinn.
07:21I never said that.
07:22That's actually a lie.
07:23Find it.
07:24That's actually a lie.
07:25You actually lied.
07:26Apologize for lying.
07:28I've never said it was all on Quinn.
07:29I'm paraphrasing.
07:29I've never said that.
07:30I did the show with you.
07:32You defended Jaden.
07:33I'll give you $100 if you find me saying...
07:35It was all on Quinn?
07:36I'll give each of you $100.
07:37First of all,
07:37I've never looked for it.
07:39I've never said it was all on DQ.
07:42I never said that.
07:43Ever, ever, ever.
07:44I always said he was partly responsible.
07:46The matter was how much responsible.
07:48I argued with you.
07:49But if you want to put the majority of blame on him...
07:51Okay, you said Quinn was more responsible.
07:52Yeah, if you want to put more on him
07:54than the others, fine.
07:55I don't think that Quinn has as much concern
08:00about the offense as he does the defense.
08:02I mean, I'm sure you guys talked about it at length,
08:04but when you bring in a defensive advisor mid-season...
08:07Yeah, but they claim,
08:09and I'm going to buy it,
08:09that they were talking about it in the camp.
08:12Okay.
08:12I'm just going to buy it
08:13because I don't think they've been lying to us that much.
08:15Yeah, it looks bad.
08:16It looks bad.
08:17It's basically saying,
08:18we don't trust the rookie defensive coordinator.
08:20We're bringing in somebody else.
08:21Well, the crazy thing is, Jason,
08:22you weren't here to talk about it is,
08:24take a look at their staff
08:25and see how many defensive coordinators they have.
08:27I think it's a ton.
08:28Dan Quinn's been a defensive coordinator.
08:29Derontae Jones.
08:30I know.
08:30Ken Norton has been a defensive coordinator.
08:32Nothing's working.
08:33I think there's a couple others, too.
08:34Nothing's working, but this is...
08:37I know why Eric feels that way.
08:39I mean, I understand.
08:40It's just based on performance, but...
08:41It just feels like one of those seasons
08:43where everything's going to go wrong.
08:44So, this will be back-to-back seasons
08:46where everything's going wrong?
08:48Kinda.
08:48It feels like it.
08:49And I was kind of prepared for it
08:51when the schedule came out.
08:52I'm not blaming it all on schedule,
08:54but it's just kind of, you know...
08:55Yeah, but you still thought they'd win that,
08:57you know, they'd be near 500.
08:59Yeah.
09:00I try to be optimistic.
09:01But what we've learned about schedules
09:03is so many things change, right?
09:05Where the Eagles...
09:06This game is more winnable.
09:07The Eagles were seen as the favorite in NFC East
09:10as a team that was going to be
09:12a double-digit wins team.
09:14And now, they are...
09:16I don't know.
09:16I'm looking at the updated power ratings on ESPN.
09:19They've got to be a bottom-five team, right?
09:21Oh, 100%.
09:22JP, if you ask me...
09:23Who do I think should win?
09:25We should win the game.
09:27We should win the game.
09:28I think we will be the better...
09:31I think we should be the better team.
09:32But unfortunately, I feel like
09:34we might find a way to lose it.
09:35Eagles are actually in the power rankings
09:37by ESPN 23rd.
09:39Commanders are below them at 29th.
09:42This is based on overall record, probably.
09:44Pretty much.
09:45But the Commanders are better right now on paper
09:48on the field than the Eagles.
09:50Because they've got Tanner McKee.
09:52Right.
09:52You have to win this game.
09:53You should win the game.
09:55Yep.
09:55You should and you have to.
09:57Because if you don't...
09:58I don't know what half means because...
09:59Well, you have to just to keep yourself interested
10:01and keep yourself in the mix.
10:03But I know this.
10:03If they do lose,
10:05I'm not going to be like a preponderance
10:08of our audience
10:09that wants to just start resting guys
10:11and benching guys
10:13and losing on purpose
10:14to secure the next draft pick.
10:17Maybe in like week 14 or 15
10:19we can have that discussion.
10:20I'm not having that discussion
10:22in week 8 or 9.
10:23I'm just not doing it.
10:25I hate these tanking losers.
10:28They're not going to do that.
10:30Oh, but people will want them to.
10:32No, I know that, but they're not going to sit Jaden.
10:34People will want them to trade
10:35as many guys as they can,
10:37give up on everything,
10:39and just try to bottom out
10:41and get the one pick or two pick.
10:43Well, I could see them trading guys
10:45whose contracts are going to expire.
10:47Yeah, there might be one or two trades.
10:49Yeah, but they're not going to sit Jaden
10:50and trade off half the defense.
10:52Jaden has to play every game he's healthy.
10:55He has to play every game he's healthy.
10:56Can they just have another game
10:58like the Seahawks game?
11:01I'm just wondering if...
11:03Now, that would be tight.
11:04I'm just wondering if they can have a game
11:05where they blow someone out
11:06like Tampa just did.
11:10Would he be happy with a win like Tampa had
11:14where the quarterback had, what, 60 yards passing?
11:18No, I don't think that would ever happen.
11:19But they won by a ton?
11:20Yeah, I don't think that would ever happen.
11:21I mean, if it could...
11:22I'm just saying, would you be happy with that?
11:23You mean like Tampa, like with Baker,
11:25when Baker just handed off?
11:26Yeah, what are you saying?
11:27Yeah.
11:29You should just say yes.
11:30This is a win.
11:32I'm more...
11:33I'm more...
11:34You're more invested in Jaden's performance?
11:36Yeah, because he's the long-time answer for us.
11:38So I need him to just keep playing well.
11:40So you'd rather him play well, the team lose,
11:44than win an ugly game like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers did
11:47where they're just running the football?
11:49I don't know.
11:49I guess I'd rather have a win, I guess.
11:50He guesses.
11:51I don't know.
11:52You ask me these dumb questions.
11:54Well, if you're a fan, you'd rather them win,
11:56just because Jaden doesn't put up huge numbers.
11:58Yeah, I don't need to...
11:59But if they blow out Philly,
12:01he doesn't have to put up big numbers.
12:03Yeah.
12:04The defense just needs to put two halves together.
12:07That's what they need to do.
12:09I think the encouraging thing...
12:10The offense will be fine,
12:11because Jaden's going to make plays,
12:13and not having McLaurin kind of hurts,
12:15but they've got enough guys where he can score points.
12:16The defense needs to step up.
12:18The problem is they haven't scored points.
12:20They're still only averaging 23 points a game.
12:22I know, I know.
12:23They've got to score some points.
12:24The encouraging thing to me is if you watch the game last night,
12:27or even if you just look at a box score,
12:31Philadelphia's defense was leaky yesterday.
12:34Now, it's against a team that has some weapons,
12:37and Dak Prescott's good,
12:38but remember Washington in the first game against the Eagles
12:41opening up the season,
12:42they did nothing for three quarters offensively,
12:44and the Eagles,
12:46though they have a lot of injuries,
12:47most of them are on offense.
12:48They still have Jalen Carter on defense,
12:50still got really good corners in Mitchell,
12:54and they got shredded yesterday.
12:56Yeah.
12:58Well, like you said,
12:59I mean, Dak, when he's on,
13:00he's got two legit receivers,
13:02and Jaden Daniels doesn't have that.