00:06It's gotten muddied, right, because it's sort of like it's also become a source of income and it's
00:12also become this it's a business and it's this thing I feel like I have to do so to me
00:18it means
00:18like somewhat how I sustain myself in a lot of ways. It didn't start out that way similar to
00:26painting and drawing and a lot of the things that I do it started out as like this thing that
00:31I like
00:31to do I'm passionate about makes me feel good or like it's meditative or it's like this creative
00:36outlet I can get lost in and it still is that. I still do find that in it from day
00:44to day but
00:45there's certainly that I don't know that demon or whatever in the background it's also like well
00:50you have to sell this thing you have to make money because like you have to pay your rent and
00:55your
00:55mortgage and feed your dog and all this other stuff so again it's like a very uh mixed mixed emotions
01:04involved with it.
