- 1 day ago
On India First, Gaurav Sawant moderates a political debate following the Bharatiya Janata Party's fierce attack on Leader of Opposition Rahul Gandhi over his foreign visits, political associations, and alleged regime change rhetoric. T
Category
🗞
NewsTranscript
00:02Hello and welcome, you're watching India First, I'm Gaurav Savant.
00:06The ruling Bharatiya Janata Party has launched a scathing attack on the leader of opposition Rahul Gandhi
00:12over his overseas visits, meetings, his political associations and his repeated attacks on what the BJP calls
00:20are symbols of the Indian constitution and institutions.
00:25Pointing to Congress's electoral record under Rahul Gandhi from 44 Lok Sabha seats in 2014 to 99 in 2024,
00:33the BJP questioned Rahul Gandhi's leadership and political strategy and said that the Congress had tried and failed
00:39multiple times to launch Rahul Gandhi.
00:42BJP MP Sudhanshin Trivedi called Rahul Gandhi an executor, not a planner and said he meets suspicious individuals
00:51and that was a grave allegation to level against the leader of opposition in India,
00:56saying that he meets suspicious individuals when he goes abroad before returning to attack institutions in India.
01:03The BJP then cited former US President Barack Obama's 2020 memoir to slam Rahul Gandhi in his book,
01:13A Promised Land.
01:13The former US President, detailing his interaction with Rahul Gandhi said, and I quote,
01:19He offered up his thoughts on the future of progressive politics,
01:25occasionally pausing to probe me on the details of my 2008 campaign.
01:30But there was a nervous, unformed quality about him,
01:34as if he were a student who'd done the coursework and was eager to impress the teacher,
01:40but deep down lacked either the aptitude or the passion to master the subject.
01:47BJP MP Nishikand Dubey questioned Rahul Gandhi's meetings overseas,
01:51citing his past meetings with US lawmakers, including Ilhan Omar,
01:56and asked,
01:57Who all does Rahul Gandhi meet abroad and why?
02:01Nishikand Dubey has separately hit out at the use of the national flag at protest sites.
02:07The BJP's wider attack centers on allegations linked to Rahul Gandhi's meeting
02:12with political networks and organizations associated with George Soros.
02:18The connections site include Rahul Gandhi's position on the Global Progressive Alliance's Asia meeting
02:25and apparently funds received from Open Society Foundation,
02:30a think tank backed by known India beta George Soros.
02:35Also under the lens are Rahul Gandhi's associations with others,
02:39like Sunita Vishwanath, for example, co-founder Hindus for Human Rights.
02:43The organization apparently received a $60,000 grant from the Open Society Policy Center in 2020.
02:51Vishwanath later attended Rahul Gandhi's 2023 US event.
02:54The BJP says,
02:56Join the dots.
02:57What does all of this indicate?
02:59Open Society Foundation Vice President Salil Shetty was seen walking along with Rahul Gandhi
03:05on the Bharat Jodo Yatra on October 11, 2022.
03:08Now, the Congress has rejected all these charges of the Bharat Janta Party,
03:14accusing the BJP of using Rahul Gandhi's stature to divert attention from critical public issues,
03:22accusing the BJP of being obsessed with the leader of opposition,
03:26while dodging issues that genuinely matter to the public.
03:30The Congress Party says the focus should be on people's issues and concerns
03:35and the protests that are driving the political debate
03:38and not on Rahul Gandhi's personal visits overseas.
03:43Its counter is sharp.
03:45Is the BJP questioning his foreign visits because of genuine concerns
03:49or because Rahul Gandhi continues to successfully challenge the government?
03:54The Congress Party argues that Rahul Gandhi meets students, intellectuals, journalists
04:00when he's overseas and questions why his travels are being turned into a political controversy in India.
04:08The Congress also points to Prime Minister Narendra Modi's overseas visits,
04:12including travels overseas during parliamentary sessions
04:15and asks whether the same scrutiny applies to the Prime Minister.
04:19Rahul Gandhi takes on the electoral system.
04:23His leadership and overseas links face scrutiny.
04:26Now amidst this political fire and crossfire,
04:30we must get you facts and not just fiction and allegations.
04:34We will debate.
04:35But first, hear the voices in this war of words.
04:39The Congress, the Congress, of all the Congresses
04:42of the President Narendra Modi is coming in,
04:44we will get you facts and indications.
04:53The Congress is coming out now,
04:57and we have to participate in an election.
05:01The situation is coming out with this,
05:01And I know this too.
05:13ुपद्र भी उपद्र हो करते नजर आ रहे हैं कहीं पे भी नेता प्रतिपक्ष प्रधान मंत्री आवाज के सामने लोटपोट
05:20करता हुआ अकाश्वाणी भामन में घुस्ता हुआ और कहीं कुद्पान करता हुआ
05:27कि कॉंग्रेस पार्टी इस सीमा तक जाकर नेता प्रतिपक्ष के पद की गरिमा को भी द्वस्त करने क्या प्रयास कर
05:35रही है उसके बाद भी उनको कोई सफलता नहीं मिल रही है
05:39Instead of talking about all the important issues raised by the public, raised by the middle class, raised by the
05:51students, raised by our different states, raised in Manipur, raised in all the drought-affected regions, what is he talking
06:04about?
06:04Congress, Congress, Congress, Rahul Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi, that has shown that the phobia of Rahul Gandhi is not
06:16letting Narendra Modi ji sleep at night
06:18They said to me, my sister, my sister, my brother, what is planning? What is planning? They said that she
06:27doesn't know what the planning is, the brother, what is planning?
06:30This is true, because planning is too far from there, you are executor, you are not the planner, you are
06:39just an executor
07:07If he travels as a leader
07:10of opposition in an official capacity
07:12to fulfill the role of
07:14an LOP, then of course
07:15he will share it in the public. But if he
07:18takes a private holiday, if
07:20he takes some days off to be with
07:22himself, to just think about something, do
07:24some reading, meet some friends, etc.
07:26and be with his family,
07:28who are they to ask questions about where he
07:30is going, what he is doing? Why should they
07:33pry into private affairs?
07:34They've become too accustomed
07:36to trying to get into the private
07:38lives of our citizen, just to
07:40know exactly what people are doing.
07:42The kind of surveillance they do with private
07:44lives of our citizens, the kind of laws
07:46that they are making which allows people to
07:48actually look into the
07:50homes and living areas
07:52of people, completely unacceptable.
07:54No liberal, no free society
07:56allows for something of this nature.
07:59The gloves are off. Joining me on this
08:01India First Debate, R.P. Singh, national
08:03spokesperson of the Bhartia Janta Party
08:05and Ruchira Chaturvedi, national
08:07spokesperson of the Congress.
08:09Welcome. R.P. Singh, Rahul Gandhi
08:11is leader of opposition.
08:14He's a five-term member of
08:15parliament. Are these
08:17allegations just political mudslinging?
08:20Where is the illegality
08:21in what he is doing? You just
08:24heard Salman Khurshid saying, if
08:25he's going abroad on his personal
08:28time, why should the
08:29government know? Or why does the BJP
08:31want to know?
08:34Well, Gaurav,
08:36he's the leader of the opposition.
08:38And when the leader of the opposition or
08:39any political entity travels
08:41abroad, especially who's
08:43in the system of
08:45the government, whether it's the leader of the
08:47opposition or the chief minister or the minister
08:49or even the home minister or the prime minister,
08:51anyone who has to travel abroad, has to tell
08:53that where is he going? Because his security
08:56is the concern of the government, one.
08:57Secondly, he has to
08:59declare that he's going on a private visit.
09:01He's going to meet his family members or his
09:03so-called family members who are abroad.
09:05We don't know who are the family members
09:07in Vietnam. But if he's
09:09going there, let him declare that I'm going for a
09:11private visit and I'm off the
09:14Indian political scene.
09:15I'm taking off and I need to relax
09:17for some time. I've worked hard.
09:18No, but is there a law? Is there a law
09:21that he's mandated to do so?
09:22If there is no such law, why
09:24is the government prying into his private affairs,
09:26sir?
09:28Gaurav, there's nothing like private
09:30affair. When he goes and meet Alan
09:32Omar, is it a private affair?
09:34When he meets people abroad who are
09:36anti-India, who takes anti-India stance,
09:38is it a private affair? When he meets
09:40people who say that India should
09:42be broken into two parts and Kashmir is not part
09:44of India, is it private affair?
09:45When he meets Colin Kornel-Wall
09:48in Germany, who speaks
09:50about the India
09:52being
09:53the union of
09:56states. So, he
09:58doesn't take India as a nation.
10:01Or when he meets other
10:02leaders like
10:03Jan Sokoswuri and
10:06when they support
10:08Omar Khadig here.
10:10Is the issue concerned?
10:12Let me get Ruchira Chaturvedi to respond.
10:14Ma'am, the BJP is raising questions
10:15about Rahul Gandhi's foreign visits
10:17and the people
10:18he meets.
10:19They're drawing a parallel between
10:21his visits and the protests.
10:22As leader of opposition
10:24and as a senior political leader
10:26and a public figure,
10:27should Rahul Gandhi respond
10:29on these allegations,
10:30point one, and his meetings
10:31with leaders like
10:32Ilhan Omar,
10:33who are known
10:34India beters, ma'am?
10:37You know, I find it
10:38deeply unfortunate
10:39that at a time
10:40when there are
10:41large-scale irregularities
10:42coming up in our
10:43election system,
10:44instead of addressing
10:45those concerns,
10:46the ruling party
10:47is asking questions
10:48of the leader of opposition,
10:50Rahul Gandhi.
10:50And let me tell you,
10:51this is a part of a toolkit.
10:53Anytime questions
10:54are being asked
10:55which are uncomfortable
10:56to the ruling party,
10:57to Prime Minister Modi,
10:59they somehow start
11:00attacking Rahul Gandhi.
11:01We also saw that
11:02during student protests,
11:03we saw that during
11:04farmers' protests,
11:05and now when
11:06leader of opposition
11:07is asking questions
11:08which the Prime Minister
11:09and BJP have no response to,
11:11they are attacking him
11:14and they're asking him questions.
11:15In fact, questions
11:16should be asked
11:16to the Prime Minister,
11:18Narendra Modi.
11:19He should be
11:19addressing the concerns.
11:21People are out
11:22on the streets.
11:22They're asking
11:23that 13.5 crore voters
11:24have been removed
11:25from the list.
11:26What is the response?
11:27Form 6.
11:29There have been
11:29illegal and unauthorized
11:31changes which have been made.
11:32What are the answers?
11:33I think the questions
11:33should be asked
11:34to the Prime Minister.
11:35Why are questions
11:36being asked to Rahul Gandhi?
11:37He's not the Prime Minister.
11:38He is leader of opposition.
11:40He is accountable.
11:42But R.P. Singh,
11:43all points raised
11:44by BJP,
11:45including
11:46these alleged meetings
11:47with individuals
11:48and entities
11:48you may consider hostile
11:51to either your party
11:52to either your party
11:53or the government.
11:54Not to the party.
11:55Sir, if there is
11:55any illegality in it.
11:57Not to the party.
11:58To the nation.
11:59When they raise
11:59question about Kashmir,
12:00is Kashmir not part of India?
12:03When Premier
12:05Jaipal
12:05talks about Kashmir,
12:06when Sunita Vishwanathan
12:07talks about Kashmir,
12:08he goes and meet
12:08all these people.
12:10It's not the party
12:11or our government.
12:13It's about the entity,
12:14very basic entity
12:15of the country.
12:16Integrity of the country.
12:17They question the integrity
12:18of the country.
12:19They talk about Kashmir
12:20every time Rahul Gandhi
12:21goes and meet them.
12:22And who's the leader
12:23Umar?
12:24She has categorically stated
12:26that Kashmir is not part of India.
12:27We should represent
12:28the country.
12:29Free and fair elections
12:31are fundamental
12:31to our democracy.
12:33When questions
12:34are being raised,
12:35whether there is sanctity
12:36of free and fair elections
12:37or not,
12:38whether citizens
12:38are able to trust
12:40the election process
12:40or not,
12:41is it not the duty
12:42of the Prime Minister
12:43to come out
12:44and do a press conference
12:45and respond to everything?
12:46And this is not just
12:47the Congress
12:47and the opposition
12:48which is raising questions.
12:49We had a leading media house,
12:51the Indian Express
12:52did a story.
12:52The two election commissioners
12:53are asking questions.
12:55Why is the BJSB
12:56and Prime Minister
12:57not addressing those concerns?
12:59Why are they not
13:00answering questions?
13:01Okay.
13:02R.P. Singh,
13:03you want to quickly respond
13:04because my question
13:05to you, R.P. Singh,
13:06is if Rahul Gandhi
13:07is doing something
13:07that you deem illegal,
13:10if there is a violation
13:11of the law,
13:13then register a case,
13:14produce evidence
13:15and then prosecute
13:17in courts of law
13:18on the basis of evidence.
13:19Aren't these just
13:20political
13:21innuendos
13:22and allegations
13:23that are being made
13:23hoping something
13:24will stick, sir?
13:26Not at all.
13:27When he spoke,
13:28when he went abroad
13:29in one of the universities
13:31in America
13:31and told a Sikh gentleman,
13:33a Sikh young boy,
13:34lad,
13:34that,
13:35oh,
13:35you're not allowed
13:36to wear turban
13:36in India,
13:37you're not allowed
13:38to wear kada in India,
13:39there's a case
13:39already filed against him
13:40in Allahabad.
13:42People of India
13:42are quite aware
13:43of the subject.
13:44So,
13:44he tries to instigate,
13:46when he goes,
13:46he tries to instigate
13:47people also.
13:48He tries to instigate,
13:48he tries to build up
13:49a narrative there.
13:50Although there's a people,
13:51there's a party
13:52who's known as
13:53the butcher of the Sikhs,
13:54the 1st November
13:55and 31st October
13:55is coming,
13:56the butcher of the Sikhs
13:57in India
13:57and he has
13:59cheesed up to go abroad
14:00and tell a Sikh,
14:01young gentleman,
14:02that you're not allowed
14:03to wear turban,
14:04you're not allowed
14:04to wear kala,
14:05you're not allowed
14:06to go to Kurdwara.
14:06So,
14:07he's trying to use
14:08that platform
14:08to instigate
14:09the violence here also.
14:11But that's point of sight.
14:12That's a very grave charge
14:13that you're leveling.
14:14I'll tell you,
14:15there's already a case
14:16against him
14:17in Allahabad court.
14:18Okay,
14:19Ruchira Chaturvedi,
14:20you want to respond to this
14:21because the BJP sites,
14:23I think about 54 odd
14:25foreign trips,
14:26BJP claims that cost
14:28some 60 crore rupees
14:29against a declared income
14:31of 11 crore rupees.
14:33So,
14:33if these charges are wrong,
14:35if they are baseless,
14:36should the Congress
14:37not explore
14:38a defamation route?
14:39BJP has no credibility
14:40with any data,
14:41with any numbers,
14:42all they do is lie.
14:43So,
14:43I'm not going to answer
14:44anything that the BJP
14:45claims as the number.
14:47The question here
14:47is very simple.
14:48I absolutely agree
14:50with what you're saying
14:50that this Soros bogey,
14:52the country is very tired of it.
14:53If you really think
14:54that he is doing anything
14:55which is illegal
14:56or anything unconstitutional,
14:57you are in government,
14:58you must take,
14:59you know,
14:59take action,
15:00you must put him
15:01behind bars,
15:01please do that.
15:02But you're not doing that
15:03because your intention
15:04is only to distract
15:05from the real issues.
15:07You do not,
15:08you have a problem
15:09that he's asking questions
15:10which are uncomfortable to you.
15:11He's asking questions
15:12about the election system
15:13and let me also tell you,
15:15he's not making anything up.
15:17He has presented
15:18hard evidence.
15:19A lot of the data
15:20that has,
15:20one of the stories
15:21has also been verified
15:22on your channel,
15:23India Today.
15:23Okay.
15:24So,
15:24I am saying that
15:24it is hard data
15:25which has been presented
15:26and the least
15:27that the BJP can do
15:28is,
15:29the Prime Minister
15:30can do is
15:30answer those questions,
15:32respond to them
15:33instead of always
15:34doing the press conference
15:35to you.
15:36You had your hand up,
15:37you want to respond
15:38to Ruchir Raj Chaturvedi
15:39saying,
15:40he's asking you
15:41hard questions.
15:43Respond, sir.
15:44What a basic question is
15:46what is the political
15:57or what is the
15:59bigger game plan
16:00behind this?
16:00And when Sam Pradhoda
16:01says,
16:02oh,
16:02if George Soros
16:04spent 10 crore,
16:05billion dollars here,
16:06what's the worst
16:07wrong in it?
16:08He,
16:08he,
16:09what are you
16:09certified there?
16:10There's a bigger game
16:11to happen.
16:11I haven't given to man.
16:12It's my turn.
16:14It's my turn.
16:15What stops you?
16:16It's your government.
16:17What stops you
16:18from acting?
16:19It's your government.
16:20There is already
16:20a case against him
16:21in Al-Abbas.
16:22I just told you
16:23I'm just not told you
16:23for the secretive
16:24sex approach.
16:25There's already
16:26action taken against
16:26somebody,
16:27some individual,
16:28some federal tech,
16:29possibly in Al-Abbas.
16:31But coming to the
16:31issue of your...
16:33Why are you not
16:34taking action?
16:35Just answer my question.
16:36One by one.
16:36It's your government.
16:38One by one.
16:39And Arpi Singh,
16:40that's a fair point
16:41that Ruchira raises here.
16:43She says that
16:44when the BJP talks
16:46of 54 foreign trips
16:47or when BJP talks
16:48about 60 crore rupees
16:50spent on these
16:51foreign visits
16:51against a declared
16:52income of some
16:5311 crore rupees
16:54or words to that effect,
16:55if there is evidence
16:56of wrongdoing,
16:57why is legal action
16:59not being taken?
17:00You are the government
17:01in power, sir.
17:03BJP cannot level
17:04allegations.
17:05BJP has been in power
17:06for 12 years
17:06and counting.
17:08Produce evidence
17:08in courts of law.
17:10Let there be
17:11evidence-based prosecution
17:12in courts, sir.
17:15Well, Gaurav,
17:16when he goes abroad
17:17and asks the European
17:18and the Western countries
17:20in America
17:20to intervene in India
17:22because it's
17:22set to democracy here,
17:24what does that mean?
17:25What does that mean?
17:26Tell me that.
17:27I mean,
17:27we can't file a case
17:28against him on this issue,
17:29but as I told you earlier,
17:30someone has gone
17:31to the high court
17:32in Al-Abbas
17:34seeking action against him
17:35on his provoking
17:36a sick child here.
17:38But coming to the issue back,
17:40that's why, ma'am,
17:40your SIR goes,
17:42your leaders in Punjab
17:43has accepted SIR.
17:44This is not a issue.
17:45This is not a issue.
17:46This is a bad habit.
17:47This is a bad habit.
17:48Please answer.
17:49Okay.
17:50Ma'am,
17:50let Avri Singh
17:51complete his point.
17:53Your leader in Punjab
17:55has accepted
17:55and said that
17:56SIR is well done
17:58in Punjab.
17:58Your leader,
17:59your home minister
18:00in Kerala
18:01has said categorically,
18:02yes,
18:03we won because of
18:04SIR was elected.
18:05Mr. Ramesh,
18:06he said that
18:07we won election
18:07in Kerala
18:08because of SIR.
18:09Mr. Ramesh Reddy
18:11appreciated
18:11election commission
18:13when election commission
18:14deleted 22 lakh vote
18:15and said,
18:16yes,
18:17thank you,
18:17election commission.
18:18So,
18:19it is,
18:19when it suits you,
18:20it goes by
18:21whenever it suits you
18:22who are happy with it,
18:23when it doesn't,
18:23when you lose elections,
18:24you say,
18:24no, no,
18:25there is a problem
18:26with EVM,
18:26there is a problem
18:27with SIR.
18:30So,
18:30one can see to it
18:31what is the game plan.
18:32Fair point,
18:32Ruchira Chaturvedi,
18:33you must respond to this
18:34because
18:36whenever your party
18:37wins,
18:38your leaders win,
18:39SIR is okay.
18:41When they lose,
18:42then our electoral
18:43system is bad.
18:44The BJP
18:45has also questioned
18:46Rahul Gandhi's
18:46overseas meetings
18:47and travels
18:49saying,
18:49can the Congress
18:51explain
18:52the individuals
18:53and entities
18:54he meets
18:55when he's overseas
18:56because he comes back
18:57with what the BJP
18:58claims is the
18:59regime change,
19:00Raga ma'am.
19:02See,
19:03I want to say this,
19:04I want to say two things.
19:05One is that
19:05it is not about
19:07win and losses.
19:08BJP wants to reduce
19:09every argument
19:10to victory and loss.
19:11This is about the
19:12sanctity of our
19:12electoral process.
19:13So,
19:14if large-scale
19:15irregularities are
19:16coming to light
19:17and this is not
19:17just the Congress
19:18saying,
19:18I'm repeating this,
19:19this is not just
19:20the opposition
19:20saying it.
19:21There are the
19:22election commissioners
19:22who are saying it.
19:24There are the media
19:24which is saying it.
19:25Let Ruchira Chaturvedi
19:27complete a point.
19:28I'll come back to you.
19:30Let me please
19:31complete, yes.
19:32I am saying that
19:33if there are
19:34large-scale
19:35irregularities
19:35coming to life,
19:36if citizens
19:36are out on the road
19:38protesting,
19:39should you not
19:39be looking into it?
19:40Why are you
19:41defending it
19:41instead of,
19:42you know,
19:43addressing the
19:44concerns of the
19:44people?
19:45It is very simple
19:46and it is hard
19:46data.
19:47It is election
19:47commission data.
19:49Why are you not
19:50looking into it?
19:50Ruchira Chaturvedi,
19:51permit me to ask you
19:52a question.
19:53Congress says
19:54there are irregularities
19:56and 13.5 crore names
19:58have been deleted
19:59from the system.
20:00The election commission
20:02has given its response.
20:03the BJP has its own
20:04take on this.
20:05When there is a point
20:07of dispute
20:07on anything,
20:08it's settled by
20:09courts of law.
20:10The matter is in
20:11courts of law.
20:12Evidence, if any,
20:13has to be produced
20:14in courts of law.
20:16What is,
20:17you know,
20:18what are these
20:18serial protests
20:19all about
20:20when the matter
20:20is in court
20:21point one,
20:22point two,
20:23the point,
20:24the allegation
20:25that is being made
20:26that Rahul Gandhi
20:28and Sonia Gandhi,
20:30they reportedly met
20:32individuals or
20:33entities related to,
20:35as the BJP puts it,
20:36some progressive
20:37international.
20:38Would you like to
20:39elaborate on what
20:40was this meeting
20:40all about?
20:41They say that
20:42there is a pattern
20:44being drawn
20:44that you weaken
20:46constitutional entities
20:48in India
20:49like it is happening
20:50overseas
20:50and there are these
20:51hidden hands
20:53that are involved
20:54is the allegation,
20:55ma'am.
20:56No, I would not
20:57like to respond
20:58to any of BJP's
20:59allegations
20:59because these are
21:00things which have
21:01been concocted.
21:02These are fabricated
21:03charges.
21:03There is no evidence
21:04to it.
21:04What I am saying
21:05is that we went
21:08to court,
21:08we have only gone
21:09to court now,
21:10our first response,
21:11if you remember
21:12last year,
21:12leader of opposition
21:13did press conferences
21:14presenting hard data
21:15and asking questions
21:16to the election
21:17commission.
21:17When we did not
21:18receive any response
21:20from the election
21:20commission,
21:21who in fact mocked
21:22us,
21:22the chief election
21:23commissioner laughed
21:23at us,
21:24even now when the
21:25opposition MPs
21:26tried to go to
21:27the election commission
21:28to just seek a meeting,
21:29it was nothing else.
21:30We just said
21:31that we want
21:31to meet the
21:31chief election
21:32commissioner
21:32to put forward
21:33our concerns.
21:34When repeatedly
21:35the doors have
21:36been closed
21:37on our face,
21:38now we have
21:39gone to the court.
21:39So what will we do?
21:41When the
21:41election commissioner,
21:43chief election
21:43commissioner who is
21:44responsible for
21:45taking these decisions,
21:46when we are asking
21:46questions,
21:47they do not respond
21:48to us,
21:48so will we not
21:49protest?
21:50What will we do?
21:50What else will we do?
21:51Fair enough.
21:52Respond,
21:53R.P. Singh,
21:53because your party MP
21:54and your colleague
21:56Sambet Patra
21:56alleged that Rahul
21:57Gandhi receives
21:58in his words,
22:00coaching
22:01to overthrow
22:02the government.
22:03Sir,
22:03where is any
22:05verifiable evidence
22:06to support
22:07such a serious
22:08charge against
22:09the leader of
22:10opposition here?
22:11I'll come to that
22:12a little later.
22:13First,
22:13let me tell
22:15about what she
22:15said,
22:16the evidence
22:16she's talking about.
22:17he went to
22:18the president
22:18of India
22:18and said,
22:19we are getting
22:22the evidence
22:22to you.
22:23President of India
22:24is still waiting
22:24where is the
22:24evidence.
22:26Just all
22:27stories.
22:28And also,
22:29as far
22:29election commission
22:30goes,
22:30when you seek
22:32a time
22:32and when you
22:33are given
22:34a time,
22:34you say,
22:35no,
22:35no,
22:35when you are
22:36given a time
22:36for 30
22:37member parliament,
22:37you know,
22:38no,
22:38no,
22:38no,
22:38we all
22:39150 will
22:39come together.
22:40Next time
22:40you say,
22:41all 240
22:42will come
22:42together.
22:43And as far
22:43whole of
22:44India goes,
22:44man,
22:45remember that
22:46Akash
22:46Bhani
22:47Governor
22:47Bhavan
22:47Security
22:48Guard,
22:48who told
22:49Mr. Rahul
22:50Gandhi,
22:50we don't know
22:51that the vote
22:51is not
22:51going to do it.
22:52We have to
22:53stop you
22:53and stop you
22:54and stop you.
22:54But you
22:55have to
22:55kill you.
22:55This is
22:57one term
22:57which the
22:58security guard
22:59told Mr. Rahul
23:01Gandhi.
23:01So as far
23:02140 people
23:02know what
23:04is the truth,
23:04what is the
23:04story which
23:05is being built.
23:06But coming
23:07to your
23:07question,
23:09let's understand
23:09the organization
23:11of FDL-AP,
23:12Forum of
23:13Democratic
23:13Dealers in
23:14Asia Pacific,
23:15Sonia Gandhi
23:15is the
23:16co-chair
23:16person.
23:17Please go
23:18through the
23:18website of
23:19that organization
23:20that says
23:20Kashmir
23:21is not
23:22part of
23:22India.
23:22That says
23:23that Kashmir
23:23we need
23:24to have
23:24a previsite
23:25in Kashmir.
23:26They say
23:27that Kashmir
23:28is occupied
23:29by India.
23:30So what
23:30does we need?
23:32Ruchidra
23:33Tengwedi,
23:33respond.
23:35Sonia Gandhi
23:35is the
23:36co-chair
23:36person there
23:37or not.
23:37Okay,
23:38because
23:38you know
23:39as public
23:39figures,
23:40as political
23:41leaders,
23:41as leader
23:42of opposition,
23:43you know
23:44Rahul Gandhi,
23:46the ruling
23:47party says
23:47he has to
23:48explain his
23:50conduct,
23:50he has to
23:51explain what
23:51he does
23:52overseas or
23:53the issue
23:54that R.P.
23:54Singh is
23:55raising about
23:55Sonia Gandhi,
23:56does he
23:56need to
23:57explain or
23:57do they
23:58need to
23:58explain in
23:59your view,
23:59ma'am?
24:02So all
24:02the responsibility,
24:03all the
24:03questions will
24:04be asked and
24:04all the
24:05answers are
24:05expected of
24:06leader of
24:06opposition,
24:07Rahul Gandhi,
24:07but Prime
24:07Minister Modi,
24:08who is the
24:08Prime Minister
24:09of the
24:09country,
24:09will not
24:10answer any
24:10questions.
24:11He will
24:11not answer
24:12questions about
24:13the voters
24:13who have
24:13been deleted,
24:14the Form 6
24:15illegal,
24:16illegal and
24:17unauthorized
24:17changes,
24:18which again,
24:19Congress is
24:19not saying it,
24:20two election
24:20commissioners are
24:21saying it,
24:21those changes
24:24not going to
24:24answer any
24:24questions about
24:25that.
24:25Just today,
24:26there have
24:27been reports,
24:27what about
24:28the Pili beat,
24:28Pili beat 16
24:29and a half,
24:3016,000 voters,
24:32their details
24:33have been
24:33changed.
24:34In Goa,
24:3597 eligible
24:36voters could
24:37not be added
24:38because the
24:39state election
24:40officers did
24:41not have access,
24:42they wrote to
24:43the election
24:43commission,
24:44who is going
24:45to answer
24:45about this?
24:46Prime Minister
24:46has no
24:47responsibility,
24:48why is the
24:48Prime Minister
24:49not coming
24:49forward
24:49about
24:51transparency
24:51and of
24:53the electoral
24:54system and
24:55there have
24:56to be answers
24:57beyond press
24:58releases or
24:58will answers
24:59now come in
24:59the form of
25:00affidavits in
25:01court of law?
25:03Well,
25:04Gaurav,
25:04as for 13
25:05crore voters
25:06goes,
25:06there are
25:06almost 6.5
25:07to 6.9
25:08lakhs which
25:08are dead
25:08or which
25:09are absent
25:11or who
25:12have shifted.
25:12There are
25:132.5
25:13to 2.8
25:14crore which
25:14have shifted.
25:15So,
25:15they want to
25:15bank upon
25:16the voters
25:17who are
25:17dead,
25:18who have
25:18shifted
25:18or who
25:19are not
25:19traceable.
25:20So,
25:20that's the
25:21complete number
25:22of 13
25:22crore voters.
25:23But issue
25:24is other.
25:25Issue
25:25is that
25:26they are
25:27raising
25:27issues.
25:28Okay,
25:28there is
25:28opposition
25:29to raise
25:29issues.
25:30But they
25:30need to
25:30bring out
25:31with the
25:31hard evidence
25:32some documents
25:33and people.
25:34The matter
25:34now is in
25:35courts of
25:36law.
25:37Ultimately,
25:38when there is
25:39a dispute
25:39between two
25:40sides,
25:44courts of
25:46law that
25:47decide in
25:48a strong
25:48democracy
25:49that India
25:50is.
25:51I want to
25:51thank both
25:52Ruchira Chaturvedi
25:53NRP Singh
25:54for joining
25:54me here
25:55on this
25:55part of
25:55India
25:56first.