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Harvard professor Graham Allison, author of "Destined for War" and a former US assistant secretary of defense, challenges Kishore Mahbubani on who comes out ahead after COVID-19.

Allison says never bet against America and warns that one-man rule can lead to bad emperors. Kishore answers with a bold move China made two days before Chinese New Year, a big number about living standards, and a question about who really decides the future.

Original conversation: China Institute, New York, "Has China Won? Kishore Mahbubani & Graham Allison on COVID-19 and the Shifting Global Order" (Apr 2020), moderated by Rana Foroohar of the Financial Times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4L3gF-sLXc - please support the original creator.

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