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00:00no i said unless you sign in you can't you can't unless i let you sign in don't touch me
00:05don't
00:06touch me then get over take your foot off no no i need access i want to get access wait
00:10in a minute
00:11take your foot no take your foot off of my door calm down take your foot off my door i'm
00:16not going
00:17to push past you then take off your foot no i want to gain access to my building can you
00:22call
00:23the 911 please do that you can go out that way
00:28excuse me you're going to break the door don't touch me move away then that's not going to break
00:39the door yes it is no it's not yes it is move away i'm not going to move away this
00:45is not your job
00:46this is my job you're not security yes i am no you're not yes i am you're a receptionist
00:52i take care of this building all right you don't do a very good job you violate people's rights
00:57come on in go ahead ma'am
01:03hi this is johanna in city hall and i have a gentleman that's being obnoxious i'm not being
01:09obnoxious you are this is city hall in napaka okay can i get a description of the gentleman
01:15he he is like five six five seven he has a green jacket on green pants green t-shirt and
01:22he has
01:22glasses and i keep telling him he can't record me and he is okay is he white black infatigration
01:35white i don't know i don't know who he has and he don't want to take my foot away from
01:39my door
01:40it's not your door
01:41okay
01:42change that mentality
01:43is the gentleman white black
01:44white he's white he's white
01:46okay
01:47very handsome
01:49does he have any equipment on him
01:50no he has the camera and he's recording me and i tell him i don't want him to record me
01:55don't work for the public
01:59thank you
02:01all right let the police let the police deal with it
02:05thank you
02:06are you
02:07let him in
02:08please
02:18yes
02:25yes
02:25yes
02:25yes
02:26yes
02:45will you please move your foot not right now no we please let me in no okay not unless you
02:51sign
02:51in I'm not so you're violating my fourth amendment right I don't need to identify myself this is a
02:57public building hi how are you doing man can I come in now no I don't want to sign in
03:05so can I can I
03:05come in well I also want to get pictures and video of the of the publicly accessible areas in the
03:12building I don't need to sign in man that's a relinquishment of my fourth amendment it's not a
03:17requirement it's a policy I don't follow policy I follow the law I don't identify myself yeah
03:23that's legal so I want to come in my building that I pay for and I want to conduct a
03:27professional
03:28public records request with you and then also visit the other offices get some public information
03:34okay all right that's all I want to do but she's being nasty you're no she's doing her job okay
03:39she
03:39shouldn't be asking for I requiring ID to get into the building just to gain access it's no it's not
03:45it's not required yes it is I could I go to bug government links all the time okay don't require
03:49it all right I'll be right back okay now she'll come back move your foot you're not gonna make me
04:07go my foot man how you doing sir yeah do you do you work here at the city hall do
04:17you work here at
04:17the city hall you're all maintenance okay gotcha I just find it a little bit odd you know they
04:23they require you to sign in to get into gain access into a building
04:40all right we're in the city hall
04:47they do have a nice decor I I can't stop you from following me around if you want to follow
04:53me
04:54around
04:57so they get her
05:22freaking out
05:27that's our rules and regulations you have to sign in I only care about the law have a great day
05:32so they have some kind of
05:42okay
05:43so
06:04All right, city administrator.
06:18So that's key card access.
06:44All right, let's see if they, if we can still get on the elevator here, yeah, just as I thought.
07:20All right, let's see if we can still get on the elevator.
07:47That's where you have the city council chambers.
07:56This place is going on lockdown.
08:02Does he say what his business is?
08:04He wants a public records request.
08:06So the clerk's office can come down and interact with him where Johanna is and he's on the other side
08:11of the glass.
08:12But what he did was he slipped past somebody and pushed his way in.
08:17So he's not adhering to our guidelines.
08:21We're not asking him to be removed.
08:24We're asking him to sign in.
08:25And if he doesn't.
08:26Yeah, but they can all, he can refuse that though.
08:29He can put John Doe if he wants.
08:31Correct.
08:31And then our staff can come down and meet him.
08:34Is the place where he needs to go, is it locked?
08:37Like can anybody walk in?
08:40Like this is open right now.
08:42Is it a locked restricted area?
08:45That's the locked restricted area and he bypassed it.
08:48That's locked and restricted.
08:49We've had folks like this here before.
08:52Right.
08:52And that's the thing is they, they don't have to sign in.
08:57You know what I mean?
08:58They don't have, I guess, yes, you are correct.
09:01You know what I'm saying?
09:02But they also can't access the rest of the building.
09:04Correct.
09:04They can access, they can't access whatever is like a private area.
09:08Right.
09:08But they can flow back and forth to.
09:11See what they say.
09:13Hopefully they're going to uphold the law and not try to enforce policy because they're not policy enforcement.
09:20So I'm sure you guys have heard a million times.
09:22They're law enforcement.
09:23They enforce the law.
09:26And we have more law enforcement.
09:31Two more officers approaching.
09:40How y'all doing?
09:41Good.
09:42How are you?
09:42Good.
09:45So yeah, the receptionist, whatever her name is, she's giving me a hard time because I don't want to sign
09:50in and get my personal identifying information.
09:54I didn't want to give up my Fourth Amendment right, in other words.
09:56So she's upset.
09:59I just want to enter into the publicly accessible areas inside the building.
10:03That's it.
10:03Just been in this area.
10:04I think they put the place on lockdown because the elevators aren't working now, so.
10:08Okay.
10:09Yeah.
10:10Go ahead.
10:10Yeah, I'll wait here.
10:12Oh, can I get your name badge number too?
10:15Keller 2674.
10:16Keller 2674.
10:17Thank you, sir.
10:23So we're just asking officers to be present to increase him to be around his business.
10:32He's an operator.
10:34Yeah.
10:34Yeah.
10:35Yeah.
10:35And he's looking for a reaction, clearly.
10:37Yeah.
10:37He, I guess he, the door was open and he went through, so.
10:40He wasn't.
10:41He's allowed to, he's allowed to.
10:42He's allowed to be in here.
10:43He's allowed to be recording.
10:43But he's not allowed to walk past our security measures without signing in.
10:50I mean, if you read the statute, those aren't supposed to be, they're supposed to be allowed to walk through
10:56the building.
10:57I mean, I could get into it with our risk managers if you like.
11:01I just called them before I told you guys.
11:03Yeah.
11:03I mean, technically, if you, if you.
11:05They get, if they, we, we've been here before for similar things.
11:08This is the same guy.
11:10Yeah.
11:10He's actually looking for a public earners request.
11:12I know.
11:12And I offered to take one out there.
11:14And he said, no, I know my rights.
11:16And then he's sitting there filming me.
11:18And he said, hold on one second.
11:20He went to go find a shop.
11:21The city clerk, is the city clerk going to come down and meet?
11:24Oh, I'm sorry.
11:25How you doing?
11:25I'm Jason.
11:26Nice to meet you.
11:27I didn't know.
11:28So I did offer and he's telling me, I said, any government building you go to, you have to sign
11:33it.
11:34I said, so you're not going to be allowed to just walk freely through the building.
11:37Well, they can, they just like, just like a public records request, they can refuse that.
11:42You know, they can refuse to tell you who they are.
11:44Okay.
11:44So, so I will take his public records.
11:47Yeah.
11:47That'd be the easiest way to deal with it.
11:49Yeah.
11:50That's cool.
11:50Okay.
11:51Yeah.
11:51That'd probably be easiest way.
11:53I'll get him out of here.
11:54Okay.
11:55Yeah.
11:55Just, he just make his request and then he'll be on his way probably.
11:58Yeah.
11:58Where is he?
11:59Right.
12:01I think he's right here.
12:04Yeah.
12:04Okay.
12:07And I'm not saying I don't get that and I understand your safety, but again, sure.
12:12If you guys just keep an eye on him.
12:15That's all we're asking at this point.
12:17Because he's already passed where he's supposed to be.
12:19So that's all I'm asking.
12:20Yeah.
12:21He will.
12:21Yeah.
12:21Because if you were here, he's less likely to be a smart ass if I can be worked with you.
12:27Okay.
12:28He's here to harass us.
12:29I think he just wants, he wants his request and then he'll be on his way more than likely.
12:33Yeah.
12:33Yeah.
12:33Yeah.
12:33We'll hang out.
12:34I don't need, I just want to use sets of two.
12:37Which one?
12:38Which one?
12:38You guys can hang out.
12:40Just be around.
12:41Okay.
12:41You guys are good.
12:42So we're good.
12:48Yeah.
12:49Be respectful.
12:50Just, they ask your badge number, your name, and, and.
12:58It's December one.
13:02Alright.
13:03We got it.
13:04You already know that though.
13:04Just hang out.
13:05Alright.
13:06Cool.
13:06Simple.
13:10No.
13:14No.
13:15No.
13:17No.
13:18No.
13:20No.
13:21No.
13:22Okay.
13:22How are you guys doing?
13:23How you doing?
13:23I'm doing fine.
13:33Yeah.
13:34Yeah.
13:35That's fine.
13:41I understand that, ma'am.
13:42I'm not trying to, I'm not a sovereign citizen.
13:44I just, I'm a big fan, I'm a big fan of the constitution.
13:48Yeah.
13:48Just, I don't want to give up my right to identify myself.
13:51You don't really need to be filming me right now.
13:53I'll just try to be respectful.
13:55I just don't want to stop recording, especially now that police are here.
14:02How's your day going otherwise?
14:05Very busy.
14:06It's very busy right now?
14:09Well, in my office.
14:10Oh, okay.
14:11Boo-coops.
14:12Yeah, yeah.
14:12I'll be real fast.
14:14Basically, I'm just going to do it verbally with you in your office.
14:16I'll get some business cards, and then if you could just write down my email,
14:19which I'll give to you, as well as the items that I'm going to put on the request.
14:23Yeah, I'll have you write down your email and do it for a...
14:27I'll just give it to you verbally.
14:30What's going on if they shut down?
14:32Yeah, I think they put this on lockdown.
14:36If you got a piece of paper or something.
14:39No, not right this side.
14:41Yes, ma'am.
14:42Where's the stairs?
14:55Are you an auditor?
14:57Are you a fan of auditors?
14:59I'm a fan.
15:00You like auditors?
15:01Don't take my picture.
15:02I'm good.
15:03How are you doing, sir?
15:04I'm good.
15:05I'm Zach.
15:06Nice to meet you.
15:06Are you?
15:07I am, yeah.
15:08Are you really?
15:08Yeah.
15:09What's your channel?
15:11Do you have, like, an email or something?
15:14I have YouTube.
15:14What's your YouTube channel?
15:15No, I don't have a channel.
15:16No, you don't.
15:17But I'll look at yours if you have a channel.
15:19Yeah, all right.
15:20Oh, you're just a visitor.
15:21Okay, I thought you worked here for a second.
15:22It's Liberty Troll.
15:23Liberty Troll?
15:24Liberty Troll, yes, sir.
15:25All right.
15:26Just trying to bypass having to give up my Fourth Amendment rights to sign in.
15:29Is that why they're here?
15:30Yeah.
15:32Susan.
15:32Susan, I'm Zach.
15:33Nice to meet you.
15:33Nice to meet you.
15:34Have a great day.
15:38So hopefully, police officers are oath keepers.
15:41They'll uphold my rights.
15:43And then I'll be able to take the elevator up to the other floors,
15:46take a look around, take my pictures and video, and leave.
15:49After law enforcement leaves, of course, if that's the way this goes.
15:55If they try to trespass me, then I'll have to get that threat of arrest as well.
16:05Because without standing, I can't make any changes here to the policies.
16:12I have to fight it in court, which you have to have standing.
16:15The threat of arrest is enough for that.
16:17You don't need to be placed in handcuffs and lose your freedom for five, six, seven hours,
16:21or however long it is.
16:23There's no need for that.
16:24Plus, they end up getting your information that way.
16:29All right, Liberty Trollers, we've been here for about 30 minutes.
16:31Police are still speaking with employees behind the key card access door in private.
16:40We will be acquiring the police body cam footage to see what sort of conversation transpired.
16:47Hopefully, they're getting an education.
16:56We're going to go ahead and take a look around while we're waiting on law enforcement
16:59to finish their investigation on the employee side.
17:04I'm sure they'll come find me.
17:18Can I talk with you?
17:19Sure.
17:20How did you get in if they were resisting?
17:22Somebody else was going in.
17:24They opened the door.
17:24I put my foot in the door.
17:25And you started?
17:27Yeah.
17:27Asserted my rights.
17:28Yeah.
17:29So I'm just waiting to see what they're speaking in private right now.
17:33How are you doing, sir?
17:35Good, good.
17:36I'm sorry.
17:37Am I in your way?
17:38And then they're going to still come out?
17:41They'll talk to me probably, and they'll probably give me some sort of cops planning or directives,
17:46and I'll just explain to them that I just didn't want to give them my fourth-minute right
17:49to give my private information.
17:51And, of course, I'm sure they're educating at least the lady, the receptionist.
17:55She's a nice lady.
17:56Is she?
17:57She was really rude to me.
17:58She was?
17:59Yeah.
17:59She said, you don't have my permission to film me and all that stuff.
18:01Oh, well, I don't know.
18:02She put her hands on me.
18:03I was trying to get in there.
18:04She touched you?
18:06Now, are you local or do you come from other part of the country or state?
18:11I live in central Florida.
18:12So you ought to go down to the city of Orlando.
18:16I've been there.
18:17City Hall?
18:17Because they have all.
18:18Yes, City Hall.
18:18They trespassed me already over there.
18:19I have a lawsuit in the making, a civil lawsuit with them.
18:22I went in there one time when they initiated all this stuff.
18:25Yeah.
18:26And it's like, ugh.
18:27Was it during COVID, by the way, when they initiated all this?
18:29Oh, it was before that.
18:30Oh, really?
18:30Okay.
18:30But then you ought to go up to Lake County in contrast.
18:34Yeah.
18:35Have you been there?
18:35I haven't.
18:36I don't think so.
18:37I just came from Miami, though, two days ago.
18:39That's a shit show.
18:40Lake County is, you can go up there with a pistol in your pocket, you can get a jackknife
18:46on your head.
18:47I'm not saying exposed, you know, under the rules.
18:51But the only thing you can't do up there is when they're having city meetings in the
18:58conference, in the chamber.
19:01They're so relaxed.
19:02It's so nice.
19:03All right.
19:03I'll have to check it out just to show the difference.
19:05Yeah.
19:05There is a difference.
19:06Comparison, yeah.
19:07Well, thanks for that, man.
19:09See you.
19:09See you around.
19:18All right.
19:18Let's go to the second floor.
19:19There's only two floors in this city hall.
19:28All right, Liberty Trollers, we are now on the second floor.
19:32City Clerk's Office is to the left.
19:36And straight ahead, we have the Community Development Administration, or Administrative
19:39Offices.
19:43I already have a lady over there looking at me conspicuously.
19:53So there, that is employees only.
19:55We can't go in there.
19:57I think we got off on the right foot.
19:59Wrong foot, excuse me.
20:02I don't think she wants, she's interested in having a cordial conversation.
20:08Building and permits.
20:09Hi, what can we help you with?
20:11I'm just getting some pictures.
20:13Oh, okay.
20:13Yeah.
20:13Isn't it pretty?
20:14It is.
20:15Are you responsible for these decorations in part or in full?
20:17Just a little bit.
20:20Well, congratulations.
20:20They look amazing.
20:22Merry Christmas.
20:22Merry Christmas.
20:24Have a great day.
20:24You too.
20:25I'm not locking.
20:31You're not locking publicly accessible areas, are you, ma'am?
20:41All right, that lady was telling them to lock their doors.
20:47Yep.
20:54Excuse me, ma'am.
20:55How are you doing?
20:56Good, I'm going to help you.
20:57Yes, how do I?
20:59I can get in there, right?
21:01No, sir.
21:01Is that not an...
21:02It's employees only.
21:03Oh, it is?
21:03Oh, okay.
21:04Thank you for clarifying.
21:05Maybe just put a sign on it.
21:06No worries.
21:07It is locked, though, so...
21:08All right, thank you.
21:09You're very welcome.
21:14Yeah, no one seems to have a problem with me.
21:16Yeah.
21:16Taking pictures and video on the second floor.
21:24Thank you, sir.
21:25Yes, sir.
21:26Appreciate it.
21:31My gut feeling is that police officers educated the receptionist and whoever else behind that closed door, and now they're
21:41spreading the word to everyone, you know, to not engage or lock their doors or whatever.
21:51All right, so this is the city clerk's office.
21:54You guys ever have anybody else come in here taking pictures?
21:57No?
21:57No.
21:58All right, so you do have that marked off, restricted access.
22:01Well, I know not to go in there.
22:02And then...
22:03Everybody else has private information on their desk.
22:06All right, I'm not going to go into their offices.
22:08Yeah, so...
22:08But technically, I, you know, just so you know, I could go over there and circle around, you know, technically.
22:13You can't trespass the eyes.
22:14You just, you can always, you can always, uh...
22:16You can't, you can only keep people from physically going into certain places.
22:20Yeah, I got you.
22:20You know what I mean?
22:20Yeah.
22:21So, uh...
22:22I'll worry so.
22:22All right.
22:23There's not really much to see in here, like you said.
22:26All right, guys, have a wonderful day, okay?
22:28You too.
22:29Nice meeting you.
22:30Nice meeting you, too.
22:31Again, what was it?
22:32Paul?
22:33Joe.
22:33Joe, sorry.
22:34I was way off.
22:36Told you.
22:36All right.
22:37Take care.
22:37You too.
22:52All right, I'm just going to go grab a business card in here, and then I'll be out, because
22:55we already got our public records request.
23:00All right.
23:04Uh, one second, sorry.
23:06How are you doing today?
23:07I'm great, thank you.
23:08Doing good, doing good.
23:11So, this was the public servant who helped us with our public records request, city clerk,
23:18Susan.
23:20Thank you for asking, okay?
23:21You have a wonderful day.
23:22Uh, Ms. Susan already took care of my request, so we're good.
23:25Have a great day, have a great day, okay?
23:28And Merry Christmas.
23:33And, of course, you have your waiting area out here in the hallway.
23:39Try to tell me to wait down there for someone to come to me.
23:42That's not how it works.
23:43Should have worked.
23:54She doesn't look happy, so, I mean, that's an indicator she got educated.
24:02I think I still see law enforcement.
24:05Let's see.
24:07Yeah, they're still here, so, we'll wait for them to leave.
24:12I don't want people to think that they chased me out of here.
24:16We'll defeat the educational value.
24:30What is over here?
24:35Excuse me, ma'am.
24:37What is beyond this door over here?
24:40I saw city council.
24:43And what else is over there, ma'am?
24:46An office.
24:48Like, someone's private office?
24:50The mayor's office.
24:50The mayor's office.
24:52Okay, that's it, right?
24:53Yeah.
24:53Okay.
24:54Could I get your name now?
24:56No.
24:59That's not very nice.
25:01Let's go.
25:10Hey.
25:16How you doing?
25:17Good, good.
25:19Could I speak to someone real quick?
25:22Could I speak to someone?
25:25I'll wait here.
25:29Okay.
25:31Okay.
25:51Can you come over here?
26:00Can you come over here?
26:02Hey.
26:04Hey.
26:31Yeah.
26:31You can go ahead and record.
26:33Okay.
26:33I just didn't know if it was about recording or not signing in.
26:36Because I didn't sign in either.
26:37Yeah.
26:37Usually we have individuals that come into the city hall just to sign in.
26:41That's it.
26:41Okay.
26:42Yeah.
26:42I just wanted to make the point.
26:44It's not required.
26:45You know, they shouldn't require it to enter into the building.
26:47So that was the point I was making.
26:49Is there a point you're trying to make right now?
26:51I'm sorry.
26:52Is there a point you're trying to make right now?
26:54A point?
26:55No.
26:55I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.
26:56I didn't want to leave until you guys left.
26:57So I just wanted to figure out like kind of where we're at.
27:00Because I know I'm the subject that was...
27:02You're free to go.
27:03If you want to leave, you don't have to wait around for us to leave.
27:06Okay.
27:07Yeah.
27:07That's fine.
27:07You guys don't have to leave either.
27:09I just want to figure out where we're at.
27:10That's all.
27:11I didn't want to run away from you guys if you were going to come.
27:13You know?
27:14How do you guys do it?
27:15So you're Officer Brooks?
27:16Yes, sir.
27:17If I would shake your hand if there wasn't a big glass in front of us.
27:20I'm Zach, by the way.
27:21I'm Officer.
27:22And Officer Mentor.
27:24You guys seem to be real nice guys.
27:26I appreciate you.
27:28I'll get out of your guys' hair.
27:29Have a good day, okay?
27:30You too, sir.
27:31You too.
27:34You know, I could stay here longer and prove my point.
27:37I think I already have.
27:40It's obvious that officers have no problem with me recording.
27:45They didn't even want to talk about the fact that I didn't sign in.
27:49I mean, they didn't have an issue with it.
27:51So, you know, they're not wanting to stick around and talk to me, per se.
27:57So, we're just going to go ahead and...
28:02Okay.
28:02I think they're leaving now.
28:15All right, ma'am.
28:15I've seen everything I needed to see.
28:19I'm going to head out here in a little bit.
28:20I was wondering if I can just...
28:22If I can just get your name before I go.
28:26No hope for that.
28:26All right.
28:27We're going to head out, guys.
28:32All right, Liberty Trollers.
28:33We are just now leaving the city of Apopka City Hall in Apopka, Florida, which is the general Orlando area.
28:42Wow.
28:43It escalated quickly as soon as we stated that we did not want to, you know, give up our Fourth
28:50Amendment right to sign in just to gain access into the, you know, into public.
28:56This is a public building.
28:57And, you know, they got all the security doors and glass and, you know...