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00:00Correct, correct.
00:03Okay, now he's hitting me. He's hitting me.
00:06He's assaulting a woman.
00:07He's assaulting me. We're taking pictures of him now.
00:10Don't touch me. He's hitting me.
00:12Don't touch my shit, lady.
00:13He's hitting me.
00:15Officer, he's hitting me.
00:18Don't touch my shit, lady.
00:23I have a gentleman taking pictures of us and slapping you.
00:26Don't touch my stuff.
00:29Yeah, he's slapping me.
00:30So I have my hand up in front of the lens.
00:32And he's hitting me.
00:37That's my shit, lady.
00:38He's walking in front of our building here, our offices.
00:44Stop grabbing my shit, lady.
00:47Yeah, I've got my finger,
00:49my hand in front of his lens.
00:52Because he's photographing my...
00:54He's chasing us around with his camera.
01:03Don't touch me, dude.
01:04I'm not touching you.
01:05Go get her wrong.
01:08Go get her wrong.
01:14He's hitting me.
01:16We're telling him.
01:17We're telling him to leave us alone and he's hitting us.
01:37Look at this idiot.
01:48He's...
02:02He's...
02:0545...
02:0645...
02:07He's only acting six.
02:09Yeah.
02:10Black...
02:11He's wearing a black sweatshirt with a hoodie and jeans, black shoes.
02:15He's got a black cap on.
02:26Uh...
02:27He's got a camera with his phone on and he's got a microphone attached to it.
02:33And he's got something into his ear.
02:35No.
02:38He has no problem coming after us but he refuses to allow us to be in peace.
02:57Don't touch it.
02:58I'm not touching it.
02:59You're moving around and touching me.
03:06Are you still there?
03:08I'm here.
03:09Okay.
03:09Did you say SAI?
03:11Yes.
03:13Okay.
03:13What is your first and last name?
03:18We're asking you to leave our property.
03:20Please.
03:20Please.
04:02Easy, shaky McShakerson.
04:05You're shook.
04:06You're all shaking.
04:07You're right.
04:08I am.
04:08You're right.
04:09So you should probably go back to your car, shaky McShakerson.
04:14I'm glad you recorded it though.
04:16I always need that second angle.
04:41This idiot doesn't even know he's breaking the law right now.
04:44By doing what?
04:45Standing in my driveway?
04:48No.
04:48You'll find out when the cops get here.
04:49Okay.
04:50It's called false imprisonment, dumbass.
04:52You can't impede my flow of traffic.
04:55Dumbass.
04:56Okay.
04:57So keep impeding it.
04:58I got it on camera, you moron.
05:01Okay.
05:04We've been asked to be left alone, and you have not been.
05:12Damn.
05:13You would think someone your age was more adult than this.
05:20Well, you know, do unto others as you have them do unto you.
05:23I'm trying.
05:24I'm trying.
05:34I'm trying.
05:37I'm trying.
05:38I'm trying.
05:42I'm trying.
05:46I'm trying to keep your government contract.
05:47Being former military, I know what it takes to keep your government contract.
05:52I think you just screwed the pooch there, buddy.
05:55We'll see.
05:55Yeah, we'll see.
05:56All right.
05:57Oh, you're a government contractor.
05:58How'd I know that?
05:59Oh, no.
06:06See, even that guy's laughing at your dumbass.
06:14Are they coming?
06:18Okay.
06:20Kendrick tried to send the cops.
06:22Oh, he's already been here for, oh.
06:24He's been here a long time.
06:25Yeah, that should tell you something, you two dummies.
06:29Okay.
06:29So he sent, he sent.
06:30Okay.
06:31So he's been just, he's, he's a vagrant.
06:34A vagrant.
06:35I've called the cops.
06:36Yeah.
06:36Over a thousand dollars of equipment, and I'm a vagrant.
06:38Man, you're dumb.
06:39You're dumb, lady.
06:40I'm a thousand dollars worth of equipment.
06:42Okay.
06:42If you say so, the phone alone is $1,200, you dumbass.
06:45I know.
06:46iPhones are a piece of crap, I know.
06:48I know.
06:49Dummy.
06:51You're the dummy.
06:51I'm the dummy.
06:52Why are you sitting out here taking pictures?
06:54I can't touch my shit.
06:56Do it again, lady.
06:57Do it again.
06:58What are you going to do?
06:58Hit me?
06:59Your husband better come, I'll lay you both out.
07:01You hit my shit again.
07:02It's not my husband.
07:02I don't give a shit who he is.
07:03And you better stop it.
07:04Stop hitting my shit.
07:05I want the cops here to see you hitting me.
07:07Yeah.
07:07That's what I want.
07:08Come on, cops.
07:09Yeah.
07:09Come on, cops.
07:10Exactly.
07:12Don't touch my shit, lady.
07:14Come on, please.
07:14Hurry up.
07:15I want you to see him hitting me.
07:17That's right.
07:18Here they come.
07:18Here they come.
07:19Yes.
07:19Perfect.
07:20So get out.
07:21Make sure you get your video out there, sir, because I'm going to let them know that
07:23you recorded it.
07:24Thanks for that angle, by the way.
07:26I appreciate that.
07:27Okay.
07:27Well, you get out.
07:28You wish, lady.
07:29That's right.
07:35Hi.
07:35Hi.
07:35Apparently he's been here for...
07:36We've been here for hours.
07:38For at least...
07:39Hours?
07:39Well, probably anywhere.
07:41Can I, uh...
07:42Can I talk to him while you guys talk to my partner?
07:45Yeah.
07:45Sure.
07:45Okay.
07:46Hey, how are you?
07:47I'm not doing too well.
07:48What's going on?
07:50This lady assaulted me numerous times.
07:53I have it on film, and that dumbass has it on film, too.
07:56Okay.
07:56I'd like to thank him for the extra footage.
07:58Hey, can you do me in favor?
08:00What's that?
08:00Are you trying to show me?
08:01Yeah.
08:06I was filming from the public sidewalk.
08:08I'm sure you already got the call.
08:09Where's the shade?
08:11Yeah.
08:11So you already got the call.
08:13Okay.
08:13Uh, dispatch went ahead and stopped it and nipped it in the butt to begin with when that
08:17first dude called.
08:18Okay.
08:18I'm sure you heard it, or maybe they told you.
08:20I didn't.
08:20I just came out.
08:20Okay.
08:21Well, you were the first one to come, because the first guy that came out went ahead and
08:24said, uh, dispatch said, well, that's legal.
08:26On the sidewalk?
08:26Yeah.
08:27That's fine.
08:27Yeah.
08:28So then they pull up in that, like, some sort of a BMW, I want to say, like an ugly
08:33brown-ish.
08:34I think it's BMW.
08:36I have it on here.
08:37He pulls up and stops at that gate, because that gate was closed, so he stops in the driveway.
08:41He gets out of the car, starts getting in my face and all, like, aggressive.
08:45She comes out and actually starts putting her hand on my camera, like, grabbing it like
08:48this.
08:48Okay.
08:49So I'm swatting her hand.
08:50Get your hand off my sh**, lady.
08:52And you can see right now, it won't even focus.
08:54See how foot, look.
08:55I'll go in.
08:58It's not going to focus for sh** now, because she broke the goddamn lens, uh, the zoom
09:02in it here.
09:03Okay.
09:03Okay.
09:05Um, and he's got, like I said, he's got the added footage, which is great, because he thought
09:08he was going to do me in with that footage.
09:10Okay.
09:10So he's actually going to have the footage of her making contact with me.
09:14Okay.
09:14Alright.
09:15Um, well, obviously you can hear it and see it on here too, but I mean, that's, that's
09:19beside the point.
09:21So, like I said, she came up all aggressive.
09:23He was actually, uh, committing false imprisonment by impeding my travel down his sidewalk for
09:28at least two minutes.
09:29And then anytime I would move, he'd impede my trap, my travel.
09:32Okay.
09:33Okay.
09:34You know, would you fill me in on why you're here?
09:38Uh, support of your rights, my son's rights.
09:40I've said it a thousand times.
09:42I'm not going to live forever.
09:42I have to leave this world for him one day and I'm hoping I leave it in a better way.
09:46And that's what our purpose is.
09:48Well then for you, I apologize.
09:50No need to apologize.
09:51Yeah.
09:51I think it's interesting how if people take the time to understand what we're doing,
09:5499 out of a hundred people support what we do.
09:56Yes, but these days when you go in with something like this and you're creating, you know.
10:00Well, that's why I remain very approachable.
10:02I'm always willing to have a conversation.
10:04I'm not looking to put anybody in fear.
10:05I'm not looking to interrupt anybody's day.
10:06I just think what's going on in this country was an atrocity and I remember a different
10:10time.
10:10Well, I totally agree with that.
10:11Well, good.
10:12I'm angry.
10:13I'm angry.
10:14I'm angry.
10:15And what's going to happen is he might actually convince these sheriffs to violate my rights.
10:18And then I have to sue the county.
10:21And we've done that numerous times and they're going to pay for it if they choose to do that.
10:24I hope that they just allow me to exercise my God given right to go in there and buy
10:29a stamp and document my purchase.
10:31That's all I'm trying to do.
10:32Well, now I see what you're doing.
10:33Yeah.
10:33I didn't understand it.
10:35See, we could be friends now.
10:36We could.
10:36That's it.
10:37There you go.
10:37Here, have a bullet.
10:39Thank you very much.
10:40I appreciate you and you have a wonderful day, man.
10:42I'm sitting there in my car on the phone.
10:43I have to ask what's going on.
10:45Sorry?
10:46I said I've been sitting in my car on the phone watching you guys.
10:49I have to ask what's going on.
10:50Oh, I just explained to the other dude, but I'm happy to explain it to you.
10:53This is my son.
10:55Hi.
10:55We've been traveling the country for two years defending the Constitution of the United States.
10:58Cool.
10:59That's what we do.
10:59So basically what this is is an exercise of my constitutional right to be out in public
11:04taking video and photographs.
11:07The First Amendment protects the press and I have the right to gather information in public
11:12as long as I don't go into any restricted areas, anywhere that says no trespassing, as
11:15long as I stay in publicly accessible areas, you can videotape, take pictures of and record
11:19anything your eyes can see.
11:21That's the way the law works.
11:22But you don't put it online?
11:22Sure you can.
11:24But if I tell you not to put my image online?
11:26And I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but the law is not in your favor on that
11:28one.
11:28You'd lose in court.
11:29There is no expectation of privacy.
11:31That's the legal situation.
11:33Now, if my morals kick in for some particular reason and somebody doesn't want to be on
11:36film, and I understand their plight, I would be happy to comply just based on morals.
11:41But legally, you have no expectation of privacy in public.
11:45That's the way the law works across all 50 states.
11:47Supreme Court's ruled on it.
11:48There is plenty of case law, so we'll see what these gentlemen think.
11:52All right.
11:52Yes, sir.
11:54One of the postmasters here in town.
11:55Okay.
11:56You spoke with the branch manager.
11:57Yes, sir.
11:58I believe you already spoke with him.
11:59I did.
11:59He asked you guys to leave earlier.
12:01No, actually, I'll tell you what he said.
12:02He came out.
12:02It's all on camera.
12:03Can I get my side of the story?
12:04Well, you give me bad information.
12:05I just want to correct what you just said.
12:07I'm just telling you what he told us.
12:07Well, I want to tell you what really happened.
12:09What he did was he came out and he said, you can't be here unless you have official business.
12:12And I said, I'm here to buy a stamp.
12:13Right.
12:13He said, well, if you're here to buy a stamp, fine.
12:15Then he went back into the background.
12:17Okay.
12:17So their concern is, and we have it, it's posted up there on the wall, like as far as recording
12:22or photographing inside.
12:24Especially permitted.
12:24Right.
12:24You can't do it in an area where you can see the financial transactions being taken.
12:29No, but I can document my own transactions.
12:30And again, I'm sorry, I didn't hear you.
12:31Out here and in the foyer, they're fine with you recording.
12:33Okay.
12:33Okay.
12:34But that's not up to them.
12:35It's up to the rules and regulations.
12:36You can't get into the line.
12:37It says lobbies.
12:38No, it doesn't.
12:39It says lobbies, foyers.
12:42That's not what it says.
12:43It says lobbies, hallways, foyers, anywhere that's publicly accessible.
12:46Sir, I've been doing this for two years.
12:48And the Supreme Court has ruled on this.
12:50And if you violate my rights, you're going to get sued.
12:51And I'm advising you right now that if you do ask me to leave, you're violating my rights.
12:55Do you want to read this?
12:56I have read this.
12:57Tell me what question you have about that.
12:59I'll explain it to you.
13:00Tell me what issue you have.
13:02No one's asking you to leave.
13:02Tell me what issue you have and I'll explain it to you.
13:04No one's asking you to leave.
13:04You want to hear both sides of the story?
13:06Is your job mandate ordered you to leave?
13:07The issue is, like I said before, their concern is you getting accidentally or on purpose people's
13:13financial transactions.
13:14I'm not interested in any of that.
13:14This is the name of the Postmaster.
13:15I'm going to go back in and buy my stand.
13:16Okay.
13:16I'm telling you guys that right now.
13:17Do you want this?
13:18This is the name of the Postmaster.
13:19Got it.
13:19This is her phone arm.
13:20This is for you.
13:22If you're going to film, you need to request permission from the Postmaster.
13:26No.
13:26It's hanging right on the wall.
13:28It's hanging right on the wall.
13:29That is not accurate.
13:30No.
13:31I am a member.
13:32Listen, I'm filming this for news purposes.
13:34So, okay.
13:34And I am expressing this.
13:36Did you read what that says?
13:37It says lobbies, hallways, foyers, corridors.
13:40No, it doesn't.
13:41It says other photographs that are other than news purposes.
13:44Photographs need permission.
13:45Read what it says.
13:46Would this be other than news photographs?
13:47Nope.
13:47This is for news purposes.
13:49I am gathering information for the public, which gets disseminated to the public.
13:53Yes.
13:53You're correct.
13:54I know I'm correct.
13:55And I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but I'm not going to
13:57Are you part of a news agency?
13:58Yes, I am.
13:58You are.
13:59Yes, sir.
13:59What news?
14:00When I see what decision you make, as far as what I'm allowed to do here, I will give
14:04you all my information.
14:05Sounds good.
14:06But I'm going to let you make your decision first.
14:07I don't want to taint your thinking.
14:09Would you like to take a picture of the rules that you pointed out to me?
14:12I know the rules.
14:13You know the rules.
14:13Do you know the Supreme Court has ruled on those rules?
14:15Okay.
14:16And do you know that the Department of Homeland Security issued a memo in 2018?
14:20Sir, do you know that the Department of Homeland Security issued a memo giving me permission
14:26to be inside of this postal office taking video?
14:28Are you aware of that?
14:29If you guys violate my rights, I'm going to sue you.
14:32And I don't want to do that.
14:33I just want to go by a stand.
14:34The whole thing is, they said you could be in the lobby.
14:36It's not up to them.
14:37It's up to the rules and regulations of the postal service.
14:39Can I finish, please?
14:40Absolutely.
14:40If you let me finish when you're done.
14:42Absolutely.
14:42Okay.
14:42Very good.
14:43But please let me finish first.
14:44And what is it?
14:45Fitzmaier?
14:46Is that how you pronounce it?
14:46Good job.
14:46Very good.
14:47So, they don't have a problem with you being in the lobby, right?
14:51In the lobby area.
14:53They just don't want, as you wouldn't want somebody to be standing behind you with video
14:58cameras to where you can actually get the transactions of their credit cards or whatever.
15:02So, if you're back here in the back part of the lobby, they're okay with that.
15:06Okay, can I tell you?
15:06They just don't want you up close where somebody has their back to you and that person, you
15:11know how people are with their credit cards nowadays.
15:13I heard you.
15:13Now, let me tell you something.
15:14First of all, in public, the onus is on you to protect your private information, not me.
15:19Secondly, I have hundreds of videos up online at post offices.
15:22Not one of them do I disclose anybody's personal information.
15:24Not what I'm here for.
15:25Okay.
15:26That's not my interest.
15:27Okay, so I have a very long established history doing what I do.
15:29I have over 100,000 views a day, people supporting what I do.
15:33And you're making a big mistake if you tell me I can't come in here and buy my stamp.
15:36I haven't said anything like that.
15:37So, I'm telling you that's what I'm going to do.
15:38And I'm going to video record my transaction.
15:40So, when I do that, what are you going to do about it?
15:42What I'm telling you is think about the other people that whenever there's people standing
15:49behind them with video cameras.
15:50Sure, that's why they put that little, that's why they put the little shield around the keypad.
15:54I completely get it.
15:54And they tell you to cover your information because that's your responsibility, not mine.
15:58I completely get it.
15:58So, I'm going to go in and buy my stamp.
16:00And you guys can all have your powwow and figure it out.
16:02I'm telling you right now, I know what I'm doing.
16:04The Supreme Court has ruled on it.
16:06There is case law.
16:07And if you try to violate my rights, I'm going to sue you.
16:09And I don't want to do that.
16:10What I would rather do, and I could have been out of here a half an hour ago.
16:13I just want to buy a stamp.
16:14Okay?
16:14This is my son.
16:15I'm traveling the country with my son.
16:17I know.
16:17Okay, you know who I am.
16:18You know exactly who I am.
16:19Right.
16:20So, and you know I'm going to go in there and buy my stamp and you're not going to stop
16:22me.
16:22Okay.
16:23Right.
16:23So, why don't we just cut the shenanigans.
16:25Let me go in and buy my stamp and I'll get out of here and these people will never see
16:27me again.
16:28But you're not going to violate my rights.
16:29It's not going to happen.
16:30Are you going to mail off your letter that you want the stamp for also while you're here?
16:34No, the letter's actually back at my house.
16:36Okay.
16:36Yeah, I just want to buy the stamp.
16:40So, do we have any issues with that?
16:41So, that's the whole purpose.
16:42That's my whole purpose.
16:43This is a First Amendment audit and I am exercising my right to take video and photographs in
16:47public.
16:48And I do not want you to violate that right.
16:50You seem like a nice guy, Fitzmyer.
16:51You really do.
16:52I really am.
16:53Yeah, you seem that way.
16:54I've been doing this too long.
16:55All right.
16:55Well, you've been doing it too long to violate somebody's rights and lose your qualified
16:58immunity and get sued.
16:59I don't want that to happen either.
17:00I don't want Fitzmyer versus Nevada.
17:02No, there's plenty of case law establishing my right already as it is.
17:04I get it.
17:05Yeah.
17:06So, are we good?
17:07Can I go in and buy my stamp and get out of there here?
17:09But with the postmaster here, we also want to...
17:12The postmaster's subjective opinion is not law.
17:14Correct.
17:15I go by their rules and regulations on postal property, which is in writing.
17:19That's what I'm going by.
17:20I didn't read the writing.
17:21You want to go read it together?
17:22You want to read it?
17:23If you shut your cameras off.
17:24No, I'm not going to shut my camera off.
17:25I don't need to go read it.
17:27My partner's already read it.
17:28All right.
17:28So, I hope you understand it.
17:29No, we have a copy right here.
17:30So, I hope you understand it.
17:31You showed me the copy that you refused to acknowledge again.
17:34No, I'm not.
17:34I'm the one that told you to go read it.
17:36Listen, let's not listen.
17:36I'm telling you that it clearly states there that you must have permission from the postmaster.
17:42That's your subjective interpretation, which is incorrect.
17:44No, it's what I read.
17:44It's what's written.
17:45Fitzmyer knows you're wrong.
17:47I've never said he was wrong.
17:49You know he's wrong.
17:51You know he's wrong.
17:52You don't have to answer rhetorical statement.
17:53You know he's wrong.
17:54So, because...
17:55You want to read it together?
17:56You can identify yourself as part of any news media.
18:00I don't have to identify myself as any news media.
18:01And other photographs...
18:02This is not other photographs.
18:04Photographs may be taken...
18:05Can you not touch my partner's phone, sir?
18:07I appreciate it.
18:08Listen, I'm going to go and stop by my stamp.
18:09You guys do what you got to do.
18:10If you want to stop...
18:11If you're going to tell me you're not allowing me to go buy my stamp, tell me that.
18:14And then I'll leave under duress, and then I'll sue you.
18:17No, you can go buy your stamp.
18:18And I'm going to record my transaction.
18:20And then I'm out of here.
18:21That's all.
18:21You're making a mountain out of a molehill, and you're going to create problems for yourself.
18:24There's no reason for that.
18:25Leave it for me.
18:27And are you the postmaster, sir?
18:28Or are you an inspector?
18:29I'm the postmaster.
18:29So you know I'm allowed to go buy my stamp.
18:31And you know I'm allowed to videotape my purchase.
18:33You know that.
18:33As long as you don't take a video of the screen of ours.
18:35I'm not interested.
18:36I can't even see your screen.
18:38That's all that.
18:38Your screen's facing the other way.
18:39Now we're called.
18:40Alright, good.
18:40So I'm going to go buy my stamp.
18:41Thank you, sir.
18:45Now I have the postmaster's permission.
18:47I have the postmaster's permission.
18:49The postmaster just gave me his permission.
18:51He gave you permission?
18:51Yes, he did.
18:52Learn the law.
18:54Learn the law.
18:55Learn the law, buddy.
18:56Learn the law.
18:57Learn the law.
18:58Learn the law.
18:59I'm not interested.
18:59You're ignorant and I don't want to hear it anymore.
19:01No, of course.
19:01Yeah.
19:02Because you're wrong and you can't admit it.
19:03So.
19:05I'm going to be quiet now.
19:06I'm not going to create a disturbance.
19:08And I'm going to buy my stamp and I'm going to leave.
19:09So you gentlemen do what you have to do.
19:20You guys that watch our videos know every time somebody's doing their little keypad thing
19:24there, even though you can't see it.
19:25I always turn my camera away.
19:26I'm not interested.
19:27Certainly not going to steal anybody's credit card information for nefarious use.
19:31Not what we're about.
19:33Once again, nobody at the counter.
19:34You already have your stuff on it or you got to send it off?
19:36Doesn't look like they're trying to get us out of here.
19:38You got to send it off?
19:40Yeah.
19:46See, I told you Fitzmaier's a good guy.
19:47I knew it.
19:48I could spot you a mile away, man.
19:50I'll see you in the tank in there.
19:52It might be somewhere over there.
19:53They make you buy a roll.
19:54Do they?
19:55Probably.
20:01I'll buy you a roll of tape if somebody goes up to the counter for me.
20:03I'd be happy to buy you a roll of tape.
20:05Seriously.
20:06Here's this.
20:07So hold on to this.
20:08Don't go away.
20:09Because that's your return style.
20:11There's tape over here on this counter.
20:13And if you can't find any, I really will buy this young lady a roll of tape.
20:16You make my day.
20:20Are you videotaping?
20:22I sure am.
20:23Why?
20:23Why are you videotaping?
20:24Because it's what I choose to do today.
20:26Why are you videotaping children?
20:27Oh, children?
20:28My mother.
20:29You don't look like a child, lady.
20:31My daughter.
20:33Then leave her at home.
20:34That's weird.
20:35That's a weird thing that's a man to do about themselves.
20:37Oh, yeah?
20:37That's been weird.
20:38Yeah?
20:39Aw.
20:40Poor lady.
20:43Are you going to go to the cops?
20:57Oh.
21:03Oh.
21:06Oh.
21:07Oh.
21:09Oh.
21:11Oh.
21:12It's not Metallica.
21:14It's not Metallica.
21:14He's cleaning the window open it'll block me.
21:25Alright brother, the camera is on, clicker is on.
21:28So we've got complaints from staff at the store, as well as patrons in the store, okay?
21:33You're more than welcome to film on the street, but if you're filming customers in their store,
21:39following the people in the store and harassing them, that becomes a problem if you're affecting
21:43their business.
21:44Hey, what's your name?
21:45You can read it right there.
21:46Yeah, it's right there.
21:47Okay.
21:48You too.
21:50I'm going to.
21:51That's what I'm doing.
21:52I'm standing here filming inside the store.
21:54Like I said, they've asked me to stop, and the people with children in there.
21:57Oh no, children, not the children.
21:59Everybody, would you please think of the children?
22:01That's kind of what you guys are doing over there, right?
22:03What makes you think I'm with them?
22:04Okay.
22:05Cool.
22:06I'm going to be standing here filming.
22:07You go ahead.
22:08This is your sergeant here.
22:09He's going to love that.
22:10Go ahead, arrest me.
22:11I never said I was going to arrest you, brother.
22:13Oh really?
22:14I asked you not to film people in the store.
22:16Fuck off.
22:17Very polite.
22:18Wow.
22:19I'm going to film everybody in this store.
22:28Stop obstructing traffic, little man.
22:30What?
22:30I'm on the sidewalk.
22:31The sergeant has to hold him back, guys.
22:32Look at that.
22:33The sergeant has to hold his guy back.
22:35Look at that.
22:37The sergeant is holding his constable back to the pilot.
22:43Hey.
22:48Good job, buddy.
22:52You see?
22:54That's, that's what I do.
22:58I don't care about people's feelings, or how they, a camera makes them feel.
23:02You should grow up, lady, and learn your friggin' rights.
23:04What?
23:05It's weird to film men.
23:07It's weird to film children.
23:08Why?
23:09It's weird.
23:10It's weird.
23:10There's cameras everywhere.
23:12There's cameras everywhere.
23:13That's just strange to me.
23:14There's cameras everywhere.
23:15I'm just curious.
23:16I'm not telling you that.
23:17Oh.
23:17You just tried to have a bunch of cops assault me and arrest me?
23:20I think I would ask them to assault you.
23:21Want to bet?
23:22Yeah, you asked them to arrest me, which is considered assault.
23:24I said there's a man killed me by child.
23:26I asked him to assault me.
23:26What was your, what was your, what was your end game of that?
23:28It's strange.
23:29Were you, were you hoping that they would arrest me?
23:30Maybe talk to you and see if you could talk to me.
23:32Do you know I would have beat that little one up?
23:33I don't, that's very violent.
23:35That's so strange.
23:35What, if they arrested me or tried to?
23:37That's strange.
23:37That's called self-defense.
23:38I did not ask for that at all.
23:39I don't, I don't take being assaulted very kindly.
23:43Do you go bring up to an officer and just say, assault that guy?
23:44Like, is that what you thought I'd do?
23:45You wanted him to do something about me filming.
23:47I wanted you to stop filming my child.
23:49That's not what you're doing.
23:50No.
23:51That's very strange.
23:52Leave your kid at home.
23:53Put a bag on her head.
23:54Put a bag on her head.
23:55Why are you filming children?
23:56Put a bag on her head.
23:58Why are you filming children?
23:58Put a bag on her head.
24:01Keep it up.
24:01Why are you filming children?
24:03This is the exact description of a child.
24:07Why?
24:08Because I asked you to stop filming my child in public for absolutely no reason.
24:12So you think the world revolves around you and your dumb kid, right?
24:15You think that you're allowed to go around and film kids?
24:17Yes.
24:18I'm allowed to film anything I can see.
24:19Just because you're allowed to doesn't mean it makes sense.
24:21It's a right.
24:22Yahweh does.
24:22It's my right to say, hey, can you not film my kid, please?
24:25It's your right to ask.
24:26Yeah.
24:27But why do you want to?
24:28You can't force it with cops.
24:29I'm not, why do you want to?
24:30You see how fast they left?
24:31Why do you want to?
24:33Because it's a right.
24:34Why do you want to film children?
24:35This is a right.
24:35Cool.
24:37And what makes you and your dumb kid the center of attention?
24:39Why are you calling a kid dumb?
24:40Well, you.
24:41You're the one filming.
24:42It's you're the one that's dumb.
24:43You're the one that's not very smart.
24:45Why are you filming children, sir?
24:46Why are you filming children, sir?
24:48And then by proxy, your kid's probably the same way as you.
24:51Why are you filming children, sir?
24:53He's filming my kid.
24:54It's weird.
24:55Look at the little rat's bag.
24:57Oh my God, not the gays.
24:59No, it's a rat.
25:00You've got to look out for the kids, right?
25:01You've got to look out for those kids and those gays.
25:04Right?
25:06Right?
25:07Yeah.
25:08I'll be here.
25:08I wasn't actually filming you.
25:12Leave your kid at home and put a bag on your head.
25:14Shut up, man.
25:14Leave your kid at home.
25:15You're weird, man.
25:16Oh, am I?
25:17Aw.
25:18Aw.
25:19Aw.
25:19It's perverted.
25:20Aw.
25:21You know, go over there and preach about the gays and how dangerous they are to children.
25:24Right?
25:25You see me preaching?
25:26You see me preaching.
25:27You're out here filming children.
25:29It's weird.
25:30You're a weird man.
25:32Go back to your mommy's basement.
25:34Watch her where it's fair.
25:35Like, it's fucking weird.
25:37It's weird that you're out here filming children.
25:39Oh, yeah?
25:39Why are you filming children?
25:40It's your right to film children.
25:42Why are you filming children?
25:45Why?
25:46I don't talk very much.
25:48I don't...
25:48I especially don't...
25:52Yeah, I'm the gays and you have a camera filming children.
25:55It's weird.
25:56It's weird.
25:57He's a weirdo.
26:05Listen, I've actually thought to myself that if I went around on the TV and I...
26:11Toronto, live in...
26:13Like, the real Toronto and you get...
26:15Sorry.
26:15You want to be in it?
26:16No, no.
26:16Come on.
26:18The real Toronto.
26:19I'll stand right with you.
26:20Yeah, the real Toronto.
26:21This is it.
26:22This is it, yeah.
26:22This is Toronto for you, folks.
26:24This is what I love.
26:25It's what I film.
26:26It's like, it's every day, too.
26:28So I live out in the East End in Durham Region.
26:30And what I do is I come down to these neighbourhoods and film.
26:34Because stuff like this goes on.
26:35This guy here, the pastor, he gets arrested a lot by the cops because they don't like him.
26:39Or people complain in the neighbourhood.
26:41But I film the police.
26:42So if you watch my channel, there's me and Canada Cop Watch.
26:45There's a few of us.
26:46That guy there...
26:48Oh, he's being talked to by the guy in the sunglasses now.
26:51He's that short dude.
26:51Yeah.
26:52Holding a camera.
26:53That's my friend, Mad Lab Press.
26:55He was a cop for 25 years and now he exposes bad behaviour by police.
27:00And then...
27:01How?
27:01Tell him what is his subject?
27:03He is preaching.
27:05He's preaching about abortion and LGBTQ.
27:09Yeah.
27:10He has his right to do so, man.
27:11That's all that matters in this situation.
27:14And freedom of religion and the freedom of assembly.
27:15Yeah.
27:16That's right.
27:16And so we're exercising the freedom of the press.
27:18We're here just to film and see what happens, right?
27:21And if the cops violate...
27:22So they know me.
27:23I know my rights better than almost anybody.
27:26That's very good.
27:27You know what?
27:28It's amazing how many people don't know their rights.
27:30That's why I do what I do.
27:32You'll love my channel.
27:33I'll stand at a McDonald's drive-thru and just go...
27:36This camera doesn't even work.
27:38What's your channel?
27:39True North Transparency.
27:41Oh, I think I'm subscribed to True North, I think.
27:43True North, the news company with David Lawton.
27:46Andrew Lawton.
27:47So, yeah.
27:47Yeah, I'm True North Transparency.
27:49I go around and just film for the sake of filming.
27:52That's it.
27:52I film people and I film places.
27:54And you don't need consent in public.
27:55Have a great day.
27:57That doesn't work.
27:58But you know what?
27:59It makes people absolutely snap when they...
28:02Hey, I'll stand here and I'll just...
28:08I watch.
28:10Canadians are very...
28:11An interesting love.
28:13Within about 20 seconds,
28:14somebody will snap and try to grab it from my hands.
28:17Right?
28:17And it goes on.
28:18It happens a lot.
28:20People are more desensitized with this.
28:22But this is our tax dollars at work.
28:23Like, why does it require...
28:25Seven cops?
28:26There's seven cops cars.
28:26Seven cops standing here right now.
28:28Want to go over this way?
28:29I want to hear it this guy's name.
28:30Want to come with me?
28:30Let's go.
28:31Okay.
28:32Hold out your phone.
28:33I'll buy the footage.
28:39There I am.
28:41There we are.
28:42There we are.
28:47He is coming.
28:49Yes, sir.
28:50How are you?
28:51I can't hear you.
28:52What's that?
28:53How can I help you?
28:55How can you help me?
28:56Yes, sir.
28:56So you came driving all the way from your trailer back there
28:58to see if you could help me?
28:59You're a very helpful man.
29:01Yeah.
29:01I'm surprised you'll have to help you.
29:05You guys ordering breakfast soon?
29:06Sorry?
29:07Are you guys ordering breakfast soon?
29:09Not sure.
29:10I'll take a breakfast if that's what you mean by can you help me.
29:13No, I'm just wondering about the drone and all that.
29:17You're just wondering about it?
29:18Yeah.
29:18I'm watching what they're doing.
29:20You're watching what they're doing?
29:21Yep.
29:22For what reason?
29:23Pardon?
29:24For what reason?
29:25Oh, I can't get into why I'm doing it.
29:27Can't discuss it.
29:28Where are you with?
29:29I can't discuss that either.
29:31Sorry.
29:32You can answer some questions, but not those.
29:37Where's your hard hat and safety vest?
29:38Sir?
29:39Where's your hard hat and your vest?
29:40It's in my truck.
29:41Yeah?
29:42So what did they say?
29:43Sir?
29:44What did these guys say?
29:45I know the one guy walked back there to talk to you, sir.
29:47Uh, he just told me that someone's in the videos.
29:51Okay.
29:51That's all.
29:52Do you have any issues with me watching everything?
29:55I don't have an issue.
29:56I see the drone.
29:57You can't fly the drone.
29:59I can't what?
30:00I don't think you can fly a drone in there.
30:01Oh, I can fly a drone in there.
30:02Look, it's in there right now.
30:03Yeah.
30:04That was right.
30:04I'm actually, I've even got pictures of the, uh, the excavator operator and the guy standing
30:09in that deep ass hole over there.
30:10Yeah.
30:11Yeah.
30:12When do you guys shore those up?
30:14I don't know what to be shored.
30:16You're sure about that?
30:17Yeah.
30:17Yeah.
30:17What's the depth of a shoring, a pit that needs to be shored?
30:21I'm not too sure about that.
30:22You're not too sure?
30:23Are you the site super?
30:24No, I'm not.
30:25Why are you out here?
30:26What's, what's your role on this place?
30:29I guarantee that guy needs, that you guys need shoring after a certain depth and that hole
30:34looks pretty deep.
30:35I can't tell how deep it is from here.
30:36Yeah.
30:36But I know you guys need to shore up holes, especially when you're stacking all the dirt
30:40right next to it.
30:41If that stuff comes down, that guy in the hole is toast.
30:43He's done.
30:43He's done for.
30:44I understand.
30:45And you wandering around without your high visibility vest, sir.
30:48That's a tut tut tut.
30:50You shouldn't be doing that.
30:51No, I understand that.
30:52No problem.
30:52But I'm flying over this property.
30:54I'm checking it out.
30:55Okay.
30:56There's nothing you can really do about it.
30:58Nothing.
30:59No problem.
31:00No problem.
31:00Are you wearing, oh, you're wearing running shoes too?
31:03Are those work boots at very least?
31:05Nope.
31:05Could be.
31:06Yeah, they're not.
31:06They would have that green tag on them, bro.
31:08I'm not really speaking.
31:09You really, really should just adhere to safety rules, even if you have questions for the
31:14photographer.
31:15What's up, sir?
31:21Richard, how you doing, buddy?
31:22Not bad.
31:24Well, obviously, you were flying a drone, my man.
31:26Yes, sir.
31:27Just make sure it's not over private property, okay?
31:29It goes over private property and over the heads of people.
31:32Okay.
31:32You have a proper license for that?
31:34You haven't read the drone laws.
31:36Oh.
31:37You haven't read them properly, dude.
31:38Okay.
31:39Anything under 249 doesn't require any of that.
31:41And you can go over.
31:42Yes, you can go over private property.
31:44I'll do it again.
31:44Can't fly it over people's heads.
31:46Yes, you can.
31:46Yeah, but you need a special permit.
31:48No, you don't.
31:49Okay.
31:49If it's over 250 grams, you do.
31:51Look into it, dude.
31:52Okay.
31:52What's your name and badge number?
31:54It's Action Sergeant Edgar, my friend, 4201.
31:57Don't come out here telling me laws you guys don't know.
31:59I can fly it over anything.
32:01The one thing you can't fly it around is airports.
32:03This is a micro.
32:04They're called micro drones.
32:06249.
32:07There is no such law.
32:08You can't fly it over people's heads.
32:10That drone looks a lot more than 249 grams, my friend, and that's why we're talking.
32:14It's not.
32:15Okay.
32:16I'll take your word for it.
32:16Do you think I would walk around and violate the law?
32:19No, I'm not saying you would at all, my friend.
32:21You know I wouldn't, actually.
32:22My observations of that drone, it looked like it was over the weight.
32:24It's not.
32:25Okay.
32:25It's 249 grams.
32:28That's the regulation, yes, but it appeared to be larger than that.
32:32No, I'm explaining to you that it is 249 grams.
32:35Right on the dock?
32:36Well, yeah, they sell them like this, man, because they know the laws.
32:39The drone companies know over 250, you need a license.
32:42You can't fly it over people or events.
32:44Okay.
32:44You can't fly it in crowded neighborhoods.
32:47That's over 250.
32:48These drones here, I could light it on fire and ram it into somebody, and it would just
32:50fall to the ground.
32:52Well, that wouldn't be very safe.
32:54It would probably break some law, I'm sure, but I definitely wouldn't do that.
32:58And, man, believe me, I know about drone laws.
33:00I don't come out here breaking laws.
33:01Nope.
33:02I can fly it over them.
33:03I can fly it over the property.
33:05And when you read the drone laws, it's...
33:07I think they...
33:07Just hold on for a second there, Richard.
33:09I think the only concern was if you were flying it over them, if you're saying it's legal to
33:13do so, then I can look into it by all means.
33:15But I think the only concern was from the supervisor of the construction site is that
33:20it might be distracted from people operating machines.
33:23That's what they all say.
33:24Well, regardless of this, it is a valid concern.
33:27No, it isn't.
33:27You know what?
33:28If those guys have a license to drive those machines, they can't get distracted.
33:33I have a license to drive a car.
33:34If I'm like, ooh, a bird!
33:35Every time a bird flew by, or somebody with a drone flew by, or somebody walking down the
33:39street, you know, with their tits hanging out or their butt hanging out wearing a short
33:41skirt.
33:42If I got distracted by that every single time and caused a car wreck, whose fault is that?
33:46It's my own, right?
33:46It's yours, obviously.
33:47Right?
33:47Or if I whipped out my cell phone and started checking stuff out while driving, that's a
33:50distraction, too.
33:51They have to learn to not look at the distractions.
33:54And crane operators and heavy equipment operators, man, they go through extensive training and
33:58they get paid like crazy.
34:00And believe me, I'm not the first guy to photograph a construction site.
34:03I know that.
34:04You're a construction worker yourself.
34:06You got it.
34:07Right?
34:07I'll take this off.
34:08You already know who I am.
34:09Of course I do, buddy.
34:11I do it for the guys that don't.
34:14All good, buddy.
34:14When did I run into you last?
34:16It wasn't long.
34:17It wasn't too long.
34:17I just walked up to you and talked to you one day.
34:19The public have the right to be in here and ask questions of their public employees.
34:23You have no authority to tell me that I can be up here.
34:25Nobody's trying to give you.
34:26You're asking.
34:27It's already over you.
34:28Okay.
34:28She's asked you a question.
34:29Yeah, but I don't need her help.
34:31He's helping me.
34:32He's helping me.
34:33But see, he reports to me.
34:35Okay.
34:35So if I need to understand what's going on, I have every right to ask that.
34:38Oh, you do?
34:39Exactly.
34:39You have a right to ask.
34:39So until I get more information, he's not going to be giving any additional answers.
34:45So you're telling him not to serve the public?
34:46Is that what you're saying?
34:47No, that's not what I'm telling him.
34:49Well, he was serving me.
34:50He was going to make sure you were going to the right place.
34:52No, because someone...
34:53You're trying to twist where he's around.
34:54You are trying to twist where he's around.
34:54He's already doing that.
34:56I'm sorry, but one of our staff came to us out of concern saying that something unusual is going on
35:01and it may be inappropriate.
35:03So before he answers anything further, I'm going to get information about what's going on.
35:07And if you don't like that, then we can ask you to leave, sir.
35:10Oh, no, you have no authority.
35:11I absolutely do.
35:11You have zero authority to ask me to leave you.
35:13I absolutely do.
35:13Because it's my responsibility to keep my staff safe.
35:16Okay.
35:16What's unsafe about what I'm doing?
35:17That's what I'm coming to see, what's happening, sir.
35:19That's what I'm doing right now.
35:20I am simply here asking questions of my public employees.
35:23That's what I'm doing.
35:23And that's no problem.
35:24I don't mean any...
35:25But that's absolutely no problem, sir.
35:27All right.
35:27But again, as the supervisor of this area, I need to know what's going on.
35:32Oh, definitely.
35:33And you refuse to give me the information that I asked you for.
35:35But unfortunately, he's not going to give any further answers until I get more clarification.
35:40Okay.
35:40Because my staff member came to me out of concern.
35:42And it's my duty to make sure that everyone in this building is safe.
35:46Understandable.
35:47Understandable.
35:48But what I'm trying to tell you is I have no obligation to explain to you why I'm here.
35:51And I have no obligation to help you any further if you will not give me any information.
35:54So you're refusing to serve the public?
35:56I am not refusing to help the public.
35:58I'm asking you for additional information.
36:00And if you cannot give me that, I cannot help you.
36:02I just explained to you, ma'am, one of your supervisors is already helping me with the
36:06information that I need.
36:07I understand.
36:07Right?
36:08What's complicated about that?
36:09What I explained to you is that someone came to me out of concern.
36:13When I come outside, the security officer is up here.
36:15What was the concern?
36:16Do you mind?
36:16What was the concern?
36:17So that means I need to know what's happening in the building.
36:19That a member of the public is in a public building asking questions.
36:21It's not a public building.
36:22We just told you that downstairs.
36:23It's not a public building.
36:24You're completely ignorant of what you're saying.
36:26And what are you?
36:27All right?
36:27And what are you?
36:27This is a public building.
36:28No, it's not.
36:29If the supervisor told you that it's not a public building, why do you think it's a public building?
36:32So what is this?
36:33It's not a public building.
36:33You don't have an appointment with anyone in here.
36:35Is this a private building?
36:36It's not a building for you.
36:38All right.
36:39So it's personal.
36:40Do you have an appointment?
36:41Everybody that walks through those doors have an appointment.
36:43You don't need an appointment to access a public building.
36:46Listen to me.
36:46You need an appointment if you have.
36:47Talk to anyone up here.
36:48You need an appointment.
36:48Ma'am, I'm not going to argue with you.
36:49Okay.
36:50But you got your address right.
36:52She was talking over me, so I didn't get it.
36:54No, I didn't talk over you.
36:54I just asked for clarification.
36:56I didn't get it.
36:56So can you just give me the address and I'll be out of here?
36:58I asked for clarification and you refused to give it.
37:00To clarify what?
37:01What is your business in this building?
37:03I just told you that all I'm here for now, since I know that I'm in the wrong building,
37:07is to get the address that I need, right?
37:10Because maybe my employee doesn't have the correct information.
37:14He does.
37:15About what he's supposed to do or not.
37:16So when someone asks me, when somebody involves me and says that they need my assistance,
37:21that's what I'm here to do.
37:22You are refusing to state your business to his supervisor because there may be something
37:28going on that he may not be aware of that he is or isn't supposed to do.
37:31What is your name, sir?
37:33Because I'm going to FOIA that picture that you're taking and I'm going to get it.
37:36Now I need your name.
37:37Can I get a FOIA request form?
37:38You have no idea who I am and what I'm doing.
37:40Can I get a FOIA request form?
37:42You can email CDPH.
37:44No, no, no.
37:44At cityofchicago.org.
37:46You know what?
37:46Just give me a paper.
37:47I can, the state losses, I can request it on a blank piece of paper and then you can give
37:50me
37:50that information.
37:51I need his name.
37:53Okay, can I get a paper?
37:53You can FOIA request CDPH.
37:57I'm sorry, FOIA at CDPH at cityofchicago.org.
38:00I need a paper.
38:01And we will have somebody write it.
38:02Oh, no, no.
38:03I want to do it right here.
38:04State law says I can do it in a public building, hand it to you and you can forward it
38:07to whoever
38:07you need to forward it to, to your custodian of records and they're going to send me that
38:10information.
38:11I need his name and his position.
38:12Because he's not supposed to take a picture of me.
38:14You don't need to be pointing, hold on, hold on.
38:15Oh, it is, it is.
38:16But you don't need to be pointing his fingers.
38:18You're in your public, on your public capacity, right?
38:20You are the only.
38:21You are the only.
38:22Oh, you can't.
38:22This is private.
38:23You are the only.
38:23I'm not a public employee.
38:24You are.
38:25Sir.
38:25This is a private phone.
38:25It doesn't matter.
38:27Sir.
38:27You're working.
38:28Yes, yes.
38:28Sir, you are the only person who's being confrontational.
38:30Oh, no.
38:31Not at all.
38:31Yes.
38:31Not at all.
38:32You may not like my tone.
38:34You're pointing your finger at people.
38:35Were you not pointing your fingers, yes or not?
38:37What's wrong with that?
38:38Were you pointing your fingers?
38:39No, I can't point my finger.
38:40That's threatening.
38:41It is.
38:41Pointing my finger is threatening?
38:42It is.
38:43So there's no need.
38:43Nobody is pointing your finger at you.
38:45Well, he needs to know.
38:45So we're going to ask you not to do that.
38:47Okay.
38:47Now you can submit whatever for your request you want to submit.
38:49Yeah, I just need a piece of paper, please.
38:51That's all I need.
38:51Then you want to write down the for your request.
38:52Exactly.
38:53Do we accept for your request?
38:55Oh, yeah, you do.
38:56You do.
38:58Every public employee, every public entity can accept for your request.
39:02Okay.
39:02Yes, that's the law.
39:03So you want to.
39:04What?
39:05You have that written down somewhere?
39:07I have an obligation to show you that, all right?
39:10We'll take this.
39:10You have to.
39:11It's the law.
39:12Did you bring me one?
39:13Let me see if I bring you one.
39:15I know exactly what I'm doing, sir.
39:16This is not my first rodeo.
39:17I know.
39:18It's clear.
39:19That's why you have to get down.
39:20Good.
39:20And that's perfectly fine.
39:22I'm an independent journalist, and I'm gathering content for a story.
39:25That's absolutely fine.
39:26Okay?
39:26Yeah.
39:27Great.
39:31There's a reason why I'm here.
39:33There's a reason why I'm here.
39:34To state the reason.
39:35That's the thing.
39:35I don't have to explain that to you.
39:36Where's the security guard?
39:37Where'd she go?
39:38Can you call her?
39:45Can I get someone getting me a paper?
39:48I'm going to get you there.
39:49I appreciate it.
39:52Did you give me your name?
39:54My name is Amita Brazil.
39:55I appreciate it.
40:01I just, he's going to bring the paper so he can write down his report.
40:07So then after that, you're going to have to leave the building.
40:19Thank you very much.
40:20I appreciate it.
40:27Are you willing to give me his name since you're his supervisor?
40:30I'm not his supervisor.
40:31I was the other gentleman's supervisor.
40:33Who's his supervisor?
40:35I'm your supervisor.
40:36Are we here?
40:38Or tell me.
40:39Oh, you could just give me his name if you know his name.
40:45Okay.
40:45I'm going to show you the background.
40:47I'm going to show you the background.
41:03I'm going to show you the background.
41:10Because you can direct them questions if I have answers to her.
41:14So he's going to give me this request.
41:16And then he's going to get, if Sharita's willing to give the name, and then he needs to leave the
41:21building.
41:33I mean, yeah, she can either give it to me or I'll FOIA request it.
41:36Then you can FOIA request it.
41:37Okay.
41:37She's not willing to give it to you.
41:38All right.
41:40That's unprofessional, though.
41:41That's very unprofessional of you.
41:42Sir, right down there for a question, and then I'm going to ask you to leave the building.
41:45Okay, ma'am, you know what?
41:45If you ask me to leave the building, then I will remain here and exercise my right.
41:49And there's nothing you can do about it.
41:50All right?
41:51So are you saying you're not going to leave?
41:53Don't tell me when to leave.
41:54I'm asking, or are you going to leave the problem?
41:57I don't have to answer your questions.
41:59Is there anything that we can do for you?
42:01Ma'am, I would have been out of here 10 minutes ago.
42:04Okay.
42:04But she made it worse.
42:05That's okay.
42:06She complicated the matter.
42:07So we're here.
42:07All right?
42:08All the other guy was trying to do was give me an address and direct me where I need to
42:12go.
42:12And then she came in and intruded and started herself between our conversation.
42:17Yes, because I'm his supervisor, as I stated.
42:19But it was unnecessary, man.
42:20No, it wasn't.
42:21It was unnecessary.
42:21So did you get the information?
42:23No.
42:24A staff member came to me for help.
42:26Yeah.
42:26So I have every right to intervene.
42:28He refused to give the information.
42:30But he's not going to give the information, and he had no appointment with anyone in this
42:34building.
42:34It's time for him to exit.
42:35And he's writing down before your request right now.
42:38Okay.
42:38So then after that.
42:42Is there anything else that we can do for you?
42:47Right now, ma'am, the only other thing I'm going to do now is to prove to her that she
43:04has
43:04probably sitting downstairs in the session field.
43:07I'm going to do some exercise or like that.
43:12Let me finish what I'm doing right now, ma'am.
43:13I appreciate you being very professional.
43:16I appreciate that.
43:17They need to learn from you.
43:19All right.
43:20So here's my request.
43:21So I have the date, and I have him on camera so you guys know exactly who he is.
43:26I need the picture that he took on his phone, sent to that email there.
43:30You guys have five business days to do that.
43:31So if there's an official FOIA request, like you can't FOIA us, I can get you the FOIA information
43:39that you need, but you cannot FOIA me or anyone here.
43:43But there is an official FOIA, and then a FOIA officer will send it to us what's requested.
43:48Right.
43:49The way it works is I've given you my request.
43:52But we don't take it.
43:53No, no, no.
43:54The state law says I can give it to any public employee from any public agency, right?
43:58So I've given that to you.
44:00So now it's incumbent on you to send it to your custodian of records, and they will send
44:04me the information that I need.
44:05That's how it works.
44:06It's that simple.
44:07So what we're going to do is we're going to take their request and give it to our FOIA officer.
44:12That's it.
44:12And then they will contact you and ask you to go through.
44:16Right.
44:16You're not responsible for that, to fill my request.
44:18I understand that.
44:19It's not your responsibility.
44:20You're only responsible to forward it to the proper channels, and then they will send me
44:23the information that I need.
44:24But I do want to let you know, so we are all clear.
44:27Okay.
44:28We're going to give this FOIA request to the FOIA officers, and they're going to reach
44:32out to you and have you get the proper documentation on the FOIA.
44:37So it's a form that everyone fills out, and then you fill it out, and then they will send
44:41it out to the appropriate people.
44:43Yeah.
44:43And state law does not require an official form.
44:45You just, I just, I can't even give it to you verbally.
44:47Okay.
44:48Right.
44:48So I can write it down on a piece of paper.
44:50Absolutely.
44:50And that's, that's, that's just as good as putting it down and, you know, on a form.
44:55And you forward it?
44:55And just forward it to you.
44:56Yeah, that's all.
44:56Absolutely.
44:57Right.
44:57And then they will send me the information.
44:58I've done it a hundred times before.
44:59Okay.
45:00Yeah.
45:00That's how it works.
45:01Okay.
45:01All right.
45:02So now I need to prove to her that she cannot tell me to leave a public space.
45:06Okay.
45:07She needs to understand that.
45:08So, and that's why.
45:09Because for some reason she thinks she has, she has the authority to tell me to leave
45:12this building.
45:12Okay.
45:13And she doesn't.
45:13This is a public space.
45:14Members of the public can be here.
45:16We can be here.
45:17We pay for this building.
45:18We pay your salaries.
45:20Taxpayers fund this building.
45:22So we have the right to come here and monitor what you do here anytime, as long as this office
45:27is open.
45:27You need to understand that, ma'am.
45:29Okay.
45:29So please don't tell me to leave a public building.
45:31I will remain here until you're closed.
45:33If you threaten a staff member, that's exactly what I'm going to ask you to do.
45:35When did I threaten, when did I threaten anyone?
45:37If anyone feels threatened.
45:39Okay.
45:39Just because you feel threatened.
45:40I didn't say you did.
45:41Okay.
45:41If a staff member is feeling threatened.
45:43Well, ma'am.
45:44If somebody threatens, if somebody is acting erratically.
45:48I have no intention on threatening anyone here today.
45:50That's not my intention.
45:51Right.
45:52I will also add that, yes, it's a public building.
45:56We're open to the public.
45:57Yes.
45:57But in the situation that we are all in, there are appointments that are made.
46:02Okay.
46:02People are waiting for people to come.
46:05Okay.
46:05The public and things like that.
46:06So when someone comes or wants to see us, security will call us and say, hey, I have
46:11X, Y, and Z.
46:12Okay.
46:12And then we'll come get them.
46:13So it's not open to where people can just lounge around.
46:17Coming here is literally a business building of people for the public.
46:22But we do have.
46:25I understand that if you have a specific business here.
46:29Yes.
46:30You can make an appointment.
46:31But that doesn't preclude members of the public from also just walking in through the door.
46:35Exactly.
46:35Right.
46:36Because let me tell you, we get people that come in here who wants to fill out things
46:39for our program all the time.
46:41Yes.
46:41But depending on if we have the staff availability and they're here for a reason, we can bring
46:47them in.
46:47But if we can't, we ask them to make an appointment.
46:49That makes sense.
46:50So I think that that's what it is.
46:51Yeah.
46:51I didn't need an appointment to be here today.
46:53No.
46:53No.
46:54Right.
46:54But if we don't have the availability, then we can't see people because sometimes we just
46:59don't.
46:59If you don't have an appointment.
47:00Right.
47:00Sometimes you don't have an appointment and you can see.
47:02Yeah.
47:02I didn't need to be seen today.
47:04Okay.
47:04I just came here.
47:05I had some questions and I came here to ask my questions.
47:08Right.
47:08Did you get your questions answered?
47:09Well, now one of your employees, I think he's a supervisor, wanted to give me the address
47:14of where I'm actually supposed to be.
47:15Okay.
47:15Right.
47:16And I never, I wasn't able to get that.
47:18Okay.
47:18So if you could just tell him to give me that address so I can head over there.
47:21Is that part of the FOIA?
47:22No, no, no, no, it's not.
47:23It's just, I think they said this is the food department that you guys take care of the.
47:28Okay.
47:29Okay.
47:29But I had some questions for Chicago Department of Public Health as far as the measles situation that's
47:34going on at the migrant shelters.
47:36So he said the right location would be on Damon.
47:39Okay.
47:40Yep.
47:41But have you like, have to call down there or anything?
47:47Oh, no.
47:47If I call them, then they will have the answers waiting for me.
47:50I don't want to give them the heads up that I'm coming.
47:53That would defeat my reason for going there.
47:56Right.
47:57Like, yeah, you don't tell someone your reason for your investigation, right?
48:02Before you start your investigation.
48:03You do your investigation first without them even knowing what you're doing, right?
48:06That's how it works.
48:07Right.
48:08So, but if you guys aren't willing to give me that address, that's fine.
48:10I'll figure it out.
48:11But I do appreciate your being professional today.
48:13You need to teach yours to be more professional.
48:16You guys take care.
48:33Oh, the police, who's coming?
48:34No problem. When they come I don't have anything to do with it. Why aren't they here?
48:40That's why we have to act now on one second. I don't know.
48:43Well you need to figure out what your job is alright? You need to figure out your job.
48:46Your job is not to keep members of the public out of a public building.
48:49This is not a public building. She just explained that to me.
48:52No she didn't. You take care. Do better.
49:06Hello guys. Hi. So I think they called you about me.
49:09Okay. Right. And...