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00:00:30The midterm elections are 16 days away, and much of the discussion is focused on which party will control the
00:00:38House and the Senate for the next two years.
00:00:42But in California, another measure on the ballot is drawing a lot of attention.
00:00:47It's called Proposition 40, and it asks voters if billionaires in the state should be subject to a one-time
00:00:555% wealth tax.
00:00:58As Jolene Kent will explain, it's a controversial idea that if successful could have implications far beyond California.
00:01:08Health care cuts are driving California towards a health care collapse.
00:01:13With Proposition 40, supporters see a lifeline for health care.
00:01:17Three and a half million people lose health insurance.
00:01:20Studies show it will cost California billions in tax revenue.
00:01:23While opponents worry billionaires will take their wealth and businesses elsewhere.
00:01:29We want billionaires to create jobs here, to start companies here.
00:01:33Ahead this Sunday morning, the Golden State's billion-dollar question.
00:01:39Earlier this year, Allison Janney won her eighth Emmy in an acting category, tying the record for the most ever
00:01:47by an individual performer.
00:01:48She shares that distinction with Julia Louis-Dreyfus, who just happens to play Janney's sister in a new Broadway show.
00:01:58Tracy Smith takes us behind the curtain.
00:02:03Other Desert Cities is a play with a galaxy of talent.
00:02:07There's Allison, Ed, Joe, Lily, and Julia.
00:02:12Joe and Julia, this is your first time on Broadway.
00:02:15How are you feeling about that?
00:02:19Oh, super relaxed.
00:02:21Totally.
00:02:21Right?
00:02:22Easy.
00:02:23I mean, this is a cakewalk.
00:02:24I like to spar.
00:02:26That's what Attila the Hun said.
00:02:29The stars come out on Broadway later on Sunday morning.
00:02:34They are two giants of American abstract expressionism.
00:02:39Lee Krasner and Jackson Pollock.
00:02:41They were also married, and as Anthony Mason will tell us, a new exhibit exploring their lives and work is
00:02:49now on display.
00:02:52In this farmhouse starting in the 1940s, Jackson Pollock and Lee Krasner redefined modern art.
00:03:00The entire art world changed right here.
00:03:04It did.
00:03:05But Krasner has long been cast in the shadow of her husband.
00:03:09That's kind of a crime.
00:03:10Yeah, after this show, no more.
00:03:13Coming up on Sunday morning, the Metropolitan Museum of Art's landmark new show rewrites the story of Krasner and Pollock.
00:03:23Also ahead this Sunday morning.
00:03:26So pleased to meet you.
00:03:28Hi.
00:03:29Mo Rocca visits with Carrie Preston, star of the hit CBS detective series, Elizabeth.
00:03:35You're not a recluse.
00:03:38Ben Mankiewicz hits the streets with one of New York's most recognizable locals, actor John Turturro.
00:03:45Don't feel great about the economy right now.
00:03:48Just ahead of the midterms, Nancy Cordes heads to Michigan to find out what Americans really think about the economy.
00:03:57Seth Doan catches up with Spanish music star, Rosalia, whose unique blend of styles creates a sound all its own.
00:04:07Luke Burbank visits an Ohio town where frogs are jumping for joy.
00:04:13And more on this Sunday morning for the 18th of October, 2026.
00:04:19And we'll be back in a moment.
00:04:21We'll be back in a moment.
00:04:51He said to the polls next month, they'll be asked whether to adopt a new proposal that calls for billionaires
00:04:57to be taxed like never before.
00:05:00Jolene Kent shares what Proposition 40 is all about.
00:05:05There's never been a proposal like this anywhere in the world.
00:05:09So it's a novel idea.
00:05:10We are facing an emergency.
00:05:12Health care cuts are driving California towards a health care collapse.
00:05:18An emergency that began with President Trump's one big, beautiful bill, according to union leader Dave Regan.
00:05:26What we're trying to do is restore $100 billion worth of health care cuts.
00:05:33The cuts targeted federal funds to Medicaid over the next few years.
00:05:38Three and a half million people lose health insurance.
00:05:41Hospitals, clinics and emergency rooms will close.
00:05:45They could also cost jobs in Regan's own union, SEIU United Health Care Workers West.
00:05:52So to bridge the gap, Regan and the union led a petition drive to put on the November ballot a
00:05:59one-time 5% state tax on the net worth of California's 200 or so billionaires, known as Proposition 40.
00:06:08How confident are you that this will pass?
00:06:12Pretty confident.
00:06:13Regan's tactics are controversial.
00:06:16His behavior, under scrutiny.
00:06:18But if the wealth tax passes, he expects the state will collect $100 billion over five years.
00:06:2590% is specifically earmarked for health care.
00:06:28We're not trying to pretend that it's a permanent solution, but a five-year solution is better than no solution.
00:06:33And that gives the state of California an opportunity to figure out what's the right permanent solution.
00:06:40So essentially, then, you're saying you're buying time.
00:06:43We're solving a problem.
00:06:45And we're solving a problem.
00:06:47But the problem isn't actually solved if it's a one-time tax and you have this giant problem.
00:06:52The problem is solved for five years.
00:06:54That's a solution.
00:06:56Is it?
00:06:56Absolutely.
00:06:57Ask the three and a half million people who are going to lose health care coverage.
00:07:01Since the wealth tax was proposed, some billionaires have left California, including venture capitalist Peter Thiel and Google co-founders
00:07:10Larry Page and Sergey Brin.
00:07:12Brin is spending more than $100 million to oppose the measure.
00:07:18California can't afford the wealth tax experiment.
00:07:21Vote no.
00:07:22And California being California, there are two other opposition-backed proposals on the ballot.
00:07:29If either one receives more votes than Prop 40, that effectively nullifies the wealth tax.
00:07:36And the billionaires have some strange bedfellows.
00:07:40We won't stand by and let a tax that's supposed to target billionaires turn into a trapdoor for working families.
00:07:49Several other major unions and big-name Democrats agree with them on voting no, including California Governor Gavin Newsom.
00:07:58It is a flawed initiative.
00:07:59And former Democratic Congresswoman Katie Porter.
00:08:03I generally, as a progressive, have fought to make sure that the ultra-wealthy pay more.
00:08:08But this tax doesn't do that correctly.
00:08:12Causing these people to pick up and to leave, we want billionaires to create jobs here, to start companies here.
00:08:18Several voters told us, we support this, but we also know it's not perfect.
00:08:23Why let perfect be the enemy of the good?
00:08:27You don't get a second bite at tax policy.
00:08:32A tax that you pass has enduring consequences.
00:08:35When somebody leaves California, we can no longer tax them.
00:08:40That is a permanent problem.
00:08:41It is much harder to get tax base back than it is to grow it in the first place.
00:08:48Here's where taxes get complicated.
00:08:50Billionaires can pay a lot in income, property, and capital gains tax.
00:08:55But most of their wealth is typically growing in stocks, which aren't taxed until they sell.
00:09:01It's a system in which essentially the richest Americans have been written out of the tax system, much like the
00:09:08aristocracy of pre-revolutionary France, right?
00:09:11People who have enough money to live on their investments and inheritances legally don't have to pay any taxes.
00:09:17Ray Madoff, a professor at Boston College Law, says Prop 40 spotlights a deeply broken tax system.
00:09:25Do you think that this is a good idea, Prop 40?
00:09:29My feelings about Prop 40 are that meaningful change has to happen at the federal level.
00:09:35And I think that to the extent Prop 40 creates an incentive for meaningful change to take effect on the
00:09:44federal level, then I'd say it would be helpful.
00:09:47On its own, it obviously can't do anything.
00:09:49It's just patching a temporary hole, right?
00:09:52But I think that there is a certain amount of symbolic value of Prop 40.
00:09:58We choose economic justice over greed.
00:10:03As for how this turns out, the polls are tightening with voters now more divided.
00:10:10To me, it's bigger than Prop 40.
00:10:11It's a big fight back against the Trump administration.
00:10:14We really are very concerned about people leaving the state.
00:10:18No billionaires we contacted wanted to talk to us about Prop 40, except for one.
00:10:25Some of your fellow billionaires here in California are spending millions to fight Proposition 40.
00:10:31Why do you see it differently?
00:10:33I don't mind paying taxes.
00:10:34The more you make, the more taxes you pay.
00:10:36So I'm okay with it.
00:10:38Jensen Huang is the founder and CEO of the American chipmaker NVIDIA, headquartered in Silicon Valley.
00:10:44I don't like tax dollars wasted, but I also support all that this country represents.
00:10:51Huang's first job was as a dishwasher at Denny's.
00:10:54Today, Forbes lists his net worth at about $200 billion, making him the seventh richest person in the world.
00:11:03I am the ultimate American dream.
00:11:05If not for this country, the education, the ability to create a new company, pursue your dreams.
00:11:11I wouldn't have met all the people that made NVIDIA possible.
00:11:15I love this country in every possible way.
00:11:17And it's not perfect, but it's incredible.
00:11:21Even if you might end up paying about perhaps $8 billion over five years?
00:11:28The fact that I can afford to pay $8 billion in taxes over five years is a privilege.
00:11:34I'm not afraid of paying taxes.
00:11:36I'm just afraid of being poor.
00:11:38Whether you're poor or rich, for or against the billionaire tax, its architect, Dave Regan, is already looking beyond November
00:11:48and beyond California.
00:11:52Other states around the country are going to start looking to follow California's lead, just like it's happened so many
00:11:58times in the past.
00:11:59California is America's coming attraction, and this is coming to a state near you after we pass it on November
00:12:053rd.
00:12:17California is America's coming attraction, and this is coming to a state near you after a year.
00:12:18California is coming to a state near you after a year.
00:12:19California is coming to a state near you after a year.
00:12:22California is coming to a state near you after a year.
00:12:24California is coming to a state near you after a year.
00:12:24California is coming to a state near you after a year.
00:12:26California is coming to a state near you after a year.
00:12:26California is coming to a state near you after a year.
00:12:27California is coming to a state near you after a year.
00:12:28California is coming to a state near you after a year.
00:12:30California is coming to a state near you after a year.
00:12:30California is coming to a state near you after a year.
00:12:32California is coming to a state near you after a year.
00:17:50Who played Judge Crawford?
00:17:54Actor Michael Emerson, best known for the series Lost and Person of Interest,
00:17:59has been married to Preston for nearly three decades.
00:18:03I'll see you in court, Miss Tessiani.
00:18:06Emerson played a corrupt judge in Season 2 of Elspeth.
00:18:10Carrie Preston grew up in Macon, Georgia.
00:18:14Her late father was a geotechnical engineer who dabbled in astrology.
00:18:19He used to do astrological charts by hand.
00:18:22So he had a sense of the metaphysical or, you know, something else outside of us.
00:18:29Her mother is a visual artist.
00:18:31She did art therapy with people.
00:18:34Art has the power to heal, even if it's a lighthearted murder mystery like I'm doing.
00:18:41It's bringing joy to people.
00:18:42Which the Juilliard-trained Preston has been doing throughout her career
00:18:47in movies like My Best Friend's Wedding.
00:18:49I say a little prayer for you.
00:18:53You're a very sweet person, Miss Crane.
00:18:56Aww.
00:18:57And The Holdovers.
00:18:58So do you.
00:19:00And TV series like True Blood.
00:19:04You have your own mantra.
00:19:06Yeah.
00:19:06I do.
00:19:07I say this is a miracle.
00:19:09Especially if I find myself getting hijacked by some emotion that's maybe getting in the
00:19:14way of me feeling joy.
00:19:16And I'll say, this is a miracle.
00:19:19This is a miracle.
00:19:20This is a miracle.
00:19:21And then I also think about the little Carrie Preston.
00:19:25I mean, when I was like six years old, I used to pretend that there were cameras in the trees.
00:19:31And I would try to act natural.
00:19:35But I have a distinct memory of doing that out in the front yard.
00:19:39Don't look into the camera.
00:19:39But I prophesied somehow that this was coming for me.
00:19:43And I dreamed about it.
00:19:44And so I don't want to take that for granted.
00:19:46This moment is not lost on me.
00:19:49Here we go.
00:19:50Here we go.
00:19:51Here we go.
00:20:02A major exhibit featuring the work of Abstract Expressionism pioneers, Lee Krasner and Jackson
00:20:09Pollock, is now on display here in New York.
00:20:12Our Anthony Mason has a preview.
00:20:17The old farmhouse in the hamlet of Springs is easy to miss.
00:20:21If not for the sign.
00:20:23So Jackson and Lee moved here in the winter of 1945.
00:20:28Here on the east end of Long Island, Jackson Pollock and Lee Krasner would send a seismic
00:20:34tremor through the art world.
00:20:36This was their home and their workplace.
00:20:39Yeah, both.
00:20:40The married couple moved into a home with no plumbing or heating.
00:20:44It was really a choice that they made to come out here.
00:20:47To go into isolation almost, to really focus on the work.
00:20:51What's the significance of the anchor?
00:20:52Jackson and Lee found it while beachcombing here in East Hampton.
00:20:56Now an historical site run by Stony Brook University, director Matthew K. Ward says the Pollock-Krasner
00:21:02house looks much as it did when Krasner died in 1984.
00:21:07Jackson actually built this custom-made speaker system, which he wired himself through the crawl space.
00:21:14Yeah.
00:21:14And it is on a spare panel from inside the studio.
00:21:18So you see.
00:21:19It's got paint all over it.
00:21:20Yeah.
00:21:20A lot of stuff here has paint all over it.
00:21:23Watch your head.
00:21:24No ceilings.
00:21:25Krasner worked in an upstairs bedroom.
00:21:28It's not very big.
00:21:28No.
00:21:29But we do have this beautiful view of Akabonic Creek.
00:21:32Right.
00:21:33How soon did the barn become his studio?
00:21:35So it took about a year to get the barn ready.
00:21:38Pollock painted in the barn out back.
00:21:41Did he even have an easel?
00:21:43No.
00:21:44So that's kind of Jackson's thing.
00:21:46Stretching his canvases out on the floor.
00:21:48He would pour, drip, and splatter paint from above down onto the canvas.
00:21:53This floor is a work of art in itself.
00:21:55The way Pollock worked was so physical.
00:21:59And I think we feel him through the floor.
00:22:02The entire art world changed right here.
00:22:05It did.
00:22:06The most modern work anybody had ever seen was made in this rustic space.
00:22:13In 1949, Life magazine famously asked,
00:22:18Is this the greatest living painter in the United States?
00:22:22If you go to the house, they'll tell you, a lot of people who show up go,
00:22:27Who's Lee Krasner?
00:22:28Yeah.
00:22:29That's kind of a crime.
00:22:30Yeah.
00:22:31After they show no more.
00:22:33In Krasner and Pollock, past continuous,
00:22:37now at New York's Metropolitan Museum of Art,
00:22:40for the first time, the two artists' careers are considered together.
00:22:45David Breslin and Brinda Kumar are co-curators.
00:22:49We hopefully prime you for this idea of creative adjacency.
00:22:53Yeah.
00:22:54Two careers in parallel.
00:22:56Early in the exhibition, you see Krasner's work on the left wall
00:23:00and Pollock's through a portal.
00:23:02We automatically understand, hopefully, how this dialogue is happening
00:23:06across the studio, across the lawn.
00:23:09Pollock was born in Cody, Wyoming.
00:23:11Krasner was the child of Jewish immigrants in Brooklyn.
00:23:15Why did they hit it off?
00:23:17A very good question.
00:23:19I think for Pollock to meet someone who had that degree of sheer intelligence, bravado,
00:23:27I think her connections weren't a bad thing.
00:23:30Yeah.
00:23:30I understand why he needed her.
00:23:33Yeah.
00:23:33Why did she need him?
00:23:34I don't know if she needed him.
00:23:36She was drawn to the work.
00:23:39Who the man was who could have made that work almost became a riddle that she wanted to solve.
00:23:45That riddle proved confounding.
00:23:48Pollock drank heavily and had affairs.
00:23:51How did she deal with that?
00:23:53She has this great line that says something along the lines of,
00:23:58Unfortunately, I had the fortune of being married to Jackson Pollock.
00:24:02But in the mid-1950s, Krasner left for Paris.
00:24:06Jackson moved his girlfriend, Ruth Kligman, into the house.
00:24:12And things kind of went to hell.
00:24:14In 1956, Pollock died in a car crash.
00:24:18Kligman, also in the car, survived.
00:24:21But a friend did not.
00:24:24Krasner went back to the house in Springs.
00:24:27She would aggressively promote Pollock's legacy as a painter.
00:24:31But she now took over his studio.
00:24:35He dies.
00:24:36She's unleashed.
00:24:38Moving into the barn after Pollock's death allowed her to work on an unprecedented scale as well.
00:24:45In the 60s, she'd paint through blue, right bird left, combat.
00:24:51These are painted directly on the wall.
00:24:54And there's a kind of ferocity.
00:24:56And today, if you go to Springs, you'll see the kind of ghostly outlines.
00:25:01This is the space where both of them did their greatest masterpieces.
00:25:05Yeah.
00:25:06Krasner lived and worked here for another 28 years after Pollock's death.
00:25:11This home is filled with ephemera that belonged to both of them.
00:25:15Lee wanted Jackson's legacy to live on just as her own.
00:25:21And she wanted them to live on together.
00:25:24You're in effect trying to rewrite the story.
00:25:27Yeah.
00:25:28And change the mythology.
00:25:30Yeah.
00:25:31Our exhibition really has been an effort to say she's an equal.
00:25:36Yeah.
00:25:44Actor John Turturro received two Emmy nominations for his work on the streaming series Severance,
00:25:51the latest accolade in a remarkable career.
00:25:54With Ben Mankiewicz, he's our Sunday profile.
00:25:57This is my uniform.
00:26:00This is how I serve the common man.
00:26:03Character actors like John Turturro never fail to leave their mark on screen.
00:26:08He's been commanding our attention in movies and on television for 46 years,
00:26:14always digging deep to deliver something memorable.
00:26:17Pretty messed up, huh?
00:26:19The hideousness of that foot will haunt my dreams forever.
00:26:23You're one of the great character actors in the history of movies.
00:26:28Oh, well, I'll take that compliment.
00:26:30I'm not sure.
00:26:31Now 69, Turturro is doing some of his best work in Apple TV's Severance.
00:26:36Rise up from your deathbed and sally forth.
00:26:41More perfect for the struggle.
00:26:44And on the big screen in a rare leading man part as a thief clinging to a world passing him
00:26:50by
00:26:50in a charming and moving crime thriller, The Only Living Pickpocket in New York.
00:26:55You know what you did wrong?
00:26:57It wasn't the lift.
00:26:58You did that swell.
00:27:00But you brought it downtown to your waist pocket.
00:27:03Within this tense sort of crime thriller, there's all this humanity and like tenderness.
00:27:09There's like this love story and there's this guy who basically the world has changed around him.
00:27:17He's obsolete in some ways.
00:27:19So how does someone like that survive in such a fast changing world?
00:27:25And I found it very evocative and moving.
00:27:29We spoke to Turturro in his Brooklyn neighborhood.
00:27:32I ride the train.
00:27:33You're not a recluse.
00:27:34He's New York through and through.
00:27:36Growing up in Hollis, Queens, his parents were a working class couple with a penchant for drama.
00:27:42They had kind of a very intimate relationship and volatile at certain times.
00:27:46You seem to have forgotten that I am a woman.
00:27:49When we used to watch The Honeymooners when I was a really little kid, my older brother,
00:27:54Ralph, used to call the show Mommy and Daddy.
00:27:57It was, you know, an expressive, sometimes explosive household.
00:28:02So you learn like what size is and what also quiet is within that.
00:28:09They also loved movies, which made a lasting impression on their son.
00:28:14I didn't go to the theater that much when I was young, but I watched The Million Dollar Movie
00:28:19and I watched all these great movies from the 30s, 40s, 50s.
00:28:24Those people opened up my brains, you know, whether it was Barbara Stanwyck or Edward G or Cagney or Betty
00:28:31Davis.
00:28:32And they're like part of me.
00:28:34Here, 64 cents.
00:28:36Go ahead.
00:28:36Come on.
00:28:37I want you to have it.
00:28:38The idea to become an actor formed watching Dustin Hoffman in Midnight Cowboy.
00:28:43I think it was a scene in the diner when he was like, oh, Joe, I only got 64 cents
00:28:48in my pocket, Joe, you know.
00:28:50And I was like, who is this guy?
00:28:52Who is this guy?
00:28:52Then cemented at a Broadway musical.
00:28:56Bob Fosse's Pippin.
00:28:57I saw the commercial.
00:28:59I felt like someone was reaching their hand out to me, like to touch me.
00:29:03And I was like, wow.
00:29:05After college came a scholarship to get a master's at the Yale School of Drama,
00:29:10but not before getting cast in his first movie, Raging Bull.
00:29:15It's described as a non-speaking part, but it's not really non-speaking.
00:29:18You got a little, there's something there.
00:29:20I say, hey, Jake.
00:29:20Hey, Jake.
00:29:21Very nervously.
00:29:22Hey, Jake.
00:29:25But it's your first line is delivered to Robert Gennaro.
00:29:27It's pretty good.
00:29:27Well, I was my first professional audition.
00:29:30Bob has brought it up to me over the years that, you know, that.
00:29:33Yeah.
00:29:33You're in this business because of him.
00:29:35Yeah.
00:29:35During his career, he's been opposite Paul Newman in The Color of Money.
00:29:39Which motion picture won the...
00:29:41Been directed by Robert Redford in Quiz Show.
00:29:44Always searching for ways to unlock his character.
00:29:48Like in Miller's Crossing, the first of four films with the Coen brothers.
00:29:51Come on, Tom.
00:29:52It's not like that at all.
00:29:53It wasn't my idea.
00:29:54You should sleep with anyone.
00:29:55You know that.
00:29:56The quirky voice came from his accountant.
00:29:58I can't.
00:30:01I can't.
00:30:02The fear from a single day in his childhood.
00:30:06In the list of difficult scenes...
00:30:08That's a difficult scene.
00:30:09Yeah.
00:30:09I had one advantage when I was younger.
00:30:13I was a serious basketball player.
00:30:15My friends and I came home from a party.
00:30:18We had, like, a bike with a banana seat, you know, in the hand.
00:30:21We pulled into a schoolyard, and this guy was shooting baskets.
00:30:25There was three of us.
00:30:26So he thought maybe we were going to try to steal something from him.
00:30:31It was late, and as I pulled into the bike thing, the guy, he took out a gun and he
00:30:37put
00:30:37it right to my head, on my bike.
00:30:39And I was like, I was frozen.
00:30:41But I never forgot this feeling of having this gun pointed at my head.
00:30:45He's collaborated nine times with Spike Lee, starting with Do the Right Thing.
00:30:50Lee sent him the script, then asked him which part he wanted.
00:30:54They're black, but they're not really black.
00:30:55They're more than black.
00:30:57It's different.
00:30:57It's different.
00:30:58Yeah, to me, it's different.
00:31:00Turturro chose the racist son of the pizza shop owner.
00:31:03Do you think he wanted you to choose that character?
00:31:06I think he was happy that I did.
00:31:07Yeah.
00:31:10Because I, you know, one thing about me is, like, I don't need to be liked if I'm doing
00:31:16a movie.
00:31:16What I need to do is to hold your attention.
00:31:19And I can, you know, surprise you.
00:31:21You know, I'm not looking to soften the edges with it.
00:31:24Or even make it, you know, worse than it is.
00:31:26It is what it is.
00:31:27You've seen that guy.
00:31:28Yeah, and you see it in all different forms.
00:31:31That's right.
00:31:31I think that's one of the unspoken things in our country, which has such diversity.
00:31:37You know, it's something we grapple with.
00:31:40You said it, man.
00:31:42Nobody f***s with the Jesus.
00:31:44When Turturro got the script for The Big Lebowski, he noted to the Coen brothers that the part
00:31:49was very small, to which they told him, you'll make something of it.
00:31:56And he did.
00:31:57And I have to say, I was really embarrassed the first time I saw it.
00:32:01I was laughing, but I was really embarrassed.
00:32:03I was like, I can't believe you put all this stuff in there, you know?
00:32:07Because it's like we were friends, and we were, like, seven years old.
00:32:11We'd say, Ben, come on over.
00:32:12Let's do a show together, you know?
00:32:14You want to make your friend laugh.
00:32:15Yeah.
00:32:16Yeah.
00:32:16Let me tell you something, man, Ben.
00:32:18I like being here and talking about acting and stuff, you know?
00:32:22Because for me, you know, I'm a natural-born actor.
00:32:26That's how it is and stuff.
00:32:28Surprisingly, this natural-born actor doesn't have an Oscar nomination.
00:32:32There's some buzz that might change with The Only Living Pickpocket in New York.
00:32:37Damn it, man.
00:32:38This is serious.
00:32:39And though awards would be nice, it's the work that matters to John Turturro.
00:32:44Can you measure success without awards?
00:32:48Yes.
00:32:48I've been able to work and do interesting things and entertain people and maybe even make them think
00:32:56sometimes or laugh or, you know, cry at different times and take them away from their lives.
00:33:02So I'm very, very appreciative of where I am.
00:33:07I want to keep that up and I feel like I'm at a very fruitful time.
00:33:18I don't know.
00:33:23If I tell you something, I'm a little bit Impressive.
00:33:24Same sort of what slight outcomes you may have caused.
00:33:40I can think of both of these clips and watch families.
00:33:41Sous-titrage Société Radio-Canada
00:34:13Dave Rako and his team are on the hunt for frogs.
00:34:19Good, dirty, filthy water, which this is, you know, look at all the, yeah, look at all the-
00:34:24Oh, it looks filthy, Dave.
00:34:27Oh, I got him.
00:34:29I think.
00:34:29No, I missed him.
00:34:30Oh, I got him.
00:34:31And they're gonna need lots of them, because it was time for the 65th annual Valley City,
00:34:38Ohio Frog Jump.
00:34:42Once it takes that first jump, you're not allowed to touch it at all.
00:34:46You can yell at it, scream at it, call it nice names, and help it make three jumps.
00:34:52It all started back in 1962, when a few guys at a bar, inspired by a Mark Twain story, were
00:35:00looking for an event to put Valley City on the map.
00:35:03These days, the festival brings out thousands of people per year, and raises significant
00:35:09money for local community projects.
00:35:13That's a nice job.
00:35:15Eight feet, five inches.
00:35:17I did not bring my own frog.
00:35:20So, Madison, it's a big moment.
00:35:22So, I asked exotic veterinarian in training, Madison Brass, owner of 28 Frogs herself, to
00:35:29hook me up.
00:35:30Whoa!
00:35:31Okay, she's live.
00:35:32You're gonna win this contest for us?
00:35:34No.
00:35:34I believe it.
00:35:35What?
00:35:39Nobody told me they were this slimy.
00:35:41Slimy, and apparently a little shy, as me and my podcast buddies, Andrew and John, took to
00:35:48the field.
00:35:49Come on, Dave.
00:35:49One more.
00:35:50One more.
00:35:51One more.
00:35:51One more.
00:35:52You can do it.
00:35:54Nice job.
00:35:55Four foot three.
00:35:57Wait a minute.
00:35:58Matthew Malloy had no such trouble with his frog.
00:36:01He and his young assistants, threes to first place overall, with a jump of 13 feet, 10 inches.
00:36:11And our new leader, where do you rank this in terms of your life achievements?
00:36:19Number one.
00:36:20Without a doubt, this is number one all-time achievement in my entire life.
00:36:23As the victors celebrated, Dave Rako was just getting started with the final task of Frog
00:36:29Jump Weekend, returning each and every slimy athlete to the ponds from whence they came.
00:36:44A star-studded revival of the play Other Desert Cities is the talk of Broadway.
00:36:51Tracy Smith shows us why.
00:36:53And the Emmy goes to Julia Louis-Dreyfus beat.
00:37:00The year was 2015, and Julia Louis-Dreyfus won yet another Emmy.
00:37:06The record, Alice and Janney, mine.
00:37:09And so did Alice and Janney.
00:37:12Thanks, everyone.
00:37:13And backstage, a question for both of them.
00:37:16Ladies, since you both get along so well, and you're both multiple Emmy winners, would
00:37:20you consider working together or starring on each other's...
00:37:23No.
00:37:24No.
00:37:24Absolutely.
00:37:25Under no circumstances.
00:37:28Thank you.
00:37:29What's that saying?
00:37:29Never say never?
00:37:31Your politics are offensive to normal people.
00:37:35You goad people with them.
00:37:36I like to spar.
00:37:38That's what Attila the Hun said.
00:37:41Allison and Julia are indeed together again in Other Desert Cities, a play by John Robin
00:37:47Bates, opening on Broadway tonight.
00:37:49And they're working with a cast of Familiar Faces.
00:37:55This is gonna work.
00:37:57Yeah, it better work.
00:37:58It's not like we're conspicuous or anything.
00:38:00Actor-singer-songwriter Joe Keery, best known from Stranger Things.
00:38:04I sweat blood for you.
00:38:06I will not tolerate sarcasm.
00:38:08TV and Broadway superstar Lily Rabe.
00:38:12We never lost an American in space.
00:38:13We're sure as hell not gonna lose one on my watch.
00:38:16And Ed Harris, who can play an American hero like no other.
00:38:21Joe and Julia, this is your first time on Broadway.
00:38:25How are you feeling about that?
00:38:28Oh, super relaxed.
00:38:30Totally.
00:38:31Right?
00:38:31Easy.
00:38:32I mean, this is a cakewalk.
00:38:34Okay.
00:38:35Here.
00:38:37Two cups.
00:38:37A cakewalk?
00:38:38It's not.
00:38:39I know you've been waiting.
00:38:41Just let's get this over with and go on to enjoy ourselves.
00:38:45The story's about a novelist, Brooke, who comes to Palm Springs for the holidays with her
00:38:49conservative parents, Polly and Lyman, Joe Keery's her brother, Trip, and Allison Janney's
00:38:55the recovering alcoholic aunt, Silda.
00:38:57And as always, when families get together, things can get a little testy.
00:39:02You know what happens when you don't drink?
00:39:05You have dreams.
00:39:08I hate dreams.
00:39:10I have more Nazi dreams than Elie Wiesel.
00:39:14What does that say about me?
00:39:16You're always being chased by the S.S.
00:39:18Allison Janney is a Tony nominee, but she says the rhythm of Broadway takes some getting
00:39:23used to.
00:39:26We met her a few weeks back, not far from her home in Los Angeles at Laurel Supply, one
00:39:31of the city's Tony or grocery stores.
00:39:34I'm like a kid in a candy store.
00:39:36As she prepared for the Broadway grind.
00:39:39Do you feel like you have to gear up to go back and do live theater, like health-wise?
00:39:44Yeah, I probably should stop drinking wine.
00:39:46Yeah, you gotta, I mean, I go to bed at 9 p.m.
00:39:51In the theater, you are, you know, if we start at 8, I'm not out of there until 10.30
00:39:57or 11.
00:39:58So it's a whole new schedule I gotta get myself on to do Broadway.
00:40:02And it's exhausting, eight shows a week, and I'm not 38 anymore.
00:40:08So that's gonna be, um, it's gonna be challenging.
00:40:12I'll see.
00:40:13I hope it's easier than I, than I think it's gonna be.
00:40:18It's Joe Keery's first time on The Great White Way, but you'd never know it.
00:40:23You're rich, you're smart, you're absurdly white, you're Ivy League.
00:40:27New York.
00:40:28Your parents are rich, and you know it.
00:40:30And what about you?
00:40:31What are you, a Zapotec Indian?
00:40:34The thing I love about this play and what it does to me is it makes me question my own
00:40:42place and my own family.
00:40:44You think being a depressive makes you special?
00:40:46Guess what?
00:40:47Being depressed makes you banal, and in your case, it makes you hard, not easy to be with.
00:40:52Tony nominee Lily Rabe has spent a lot of time in Hollywood, but she says there's nothing
00:40:57like acting in front of a live audience.
00:40:59I love doing plays so much.
00:41:02It does feel like coming home.
00:41:03I can't believe I get to be in this company and say these words.
00:41:06It is such a privilege to get to say these words.
00:41:09And she has a lot to say.
00:41:11I don't want there to be any more anxious stares.
00:41:14No more fear.
00:41:15No more dread.
00:41:15Her character, Brooke, announces that are new books about their late brother, Henry,
00:41:20a 70s radical who was involved in a deadly bombing and who died by suicide.
00:41:25The family is caught a bit off guard.
00:41:28Dread?
00:41:30Should we be dreading your novel, darling?
00:41:32No.
00:41:33No, no, no.
00:41:33Sorry.
00:41:34Wrong word.
00:41:34Not dread.
00:41:35But there is something you should know before you read it.
00:41:37Oh, I just love it when people say there's something you should know.
00:41:43Because you can just tell it's something you wish you didn't have to hear.
00:41:46Julia Louis-Dreyfus spent some of her childhood in New York.
00:41:50And this part of Central Park was her playground.
00:41:53Are there certain sounds and smells and things that bring you back to New York City as a kid?
00:42:00You mean besides the dog on the sidewalk?
00:42:04Which is always here.
00:42:07One of the themes in the play is dealing with grief,
00:42:09something Julia's also had to grapple with in real life
00:42:13over the recent loss of family members and her home in the California fires.
00:42:18What have you learned about grief?
00:42:21That if you're lucky enough to live long enough, you're going to experience grief.
00:42:25Lucky.
00:42:26Yeah.
00:42:27Yeah.
00:42:28The thing about grief is I think there's resistance to it.
00:42:31When you get an urge to cry, you always feel like you have to push it back down.
00:42:35And I don't know, maybe that's just human behavior.
00:42:38But I think there's something to be said for allowing it in.
00:42:45Aw, you're getting your old glow back.
00:42:49In the play, Mom and Dad just try to keep the family on track, as parents do.
00:42:54I'm wondering, just from your own lives, any parental advice that you've gotten that has stayed with you, good or
00:43:00bad?
00:43:01My dad was in the hospice bed in the living room where my folks were.
00:43:07And I had to go off and do something that I was concerned about or that was going to be
00:43:13kind of tricky.
00:43:14And he said, gird your loins.
00:43:18Gird your loins.
00:43:19Yeah.
00:43:20He said, all right.
00:43:21I get you.
00:43:22Toughen up, dude.
00:43:23Yep.
00:43:24You know.
00:43:24My daughter is tap dancing around about this book of hers, and we're all sitting here waiting like nothing is
00:43:30happening.
00:43:31As for Dreyfus, she says she's been looking for a new adventure that might scare her a bit.
00:43:36And with this play, on this stage, she found it.
00:43:40You all have done this Broadway dance before.
00:43:42Is there any advice that you would give to the two who have not done the Broadway thing before?
00:43:47Gird your loins.
00:43:51They're girded, baby.
00:43:52They're girded.
00:43:52Good idea.
00:44:00What's the most important issue on voters' minds as we approach midterm elections?
00:44:06The economy.
00:44:08Nancy Cordes traveled to Michigan to find out why.
00:44:12God bless our great state of Texas.
00:44:14Thank you very much.
00:44:16The polls open in one month, Athens.
00:44:19Are you ready to work?
00:44:20Yes!
00:44:20In most of the country, autumn is campaign season.
00:44:26But in Michigan, it is also cider season.
00:44:29A gallon, half gallon, cork, and a little pint.
00:44:32The Franklin Cider Mill is an institution in suburban Detroit that churns out hot donuts and ice-cold cider slushies.
00:44:42Are you cups for this?
00:44:43Yes, that'd be great. Thanks.
00:44:44Between bites, we asked visitors to assess the state of their wallets three weeks before election day.
00:44:50I would say most are struggling, if I'm being honest.
00:44:53I don't feel great about the economy right now.
00:44:56It sucks.
00:44:57Jeffrey Robinson is a high school principal.
00:45:00We have parents that carpool, that are finding it hard to keep gas in the car.
00:45:05If it seems like people are feeling especially gloomy about the economy, Joanne Hsu has the proof.
00:45:12And surveys like ours.
00:45:14She runs the nation's longest-running consumer sentiment survey at the University of Michigan.
00:45:19It dates back to 1946.
00:45:22Since the Iran conflict, we've been seeing quite a bit of decline in consumer sentiment across the board, across all
00:45:28walks of life.
00:45:29In fact, she says, consumer sentiment is lower now than it has been at almost any other time in modern
00:45:36history.
00:45:37Including the stagflation era in the mid-70s.
00:45:40The nation's inflation climbed to an annual rate of 13.7%.
00:45:45The financial crisis in 2008.
00:45:47Investors dumped their stock fearing a big global recession.
00:45:50And the post-COVID price spikes under the Biden administration.
00:45:55Inflation is surging at the fastest pace in more than 40 years.
00:45:59Democrats, independents and Republicans.
00:46:01All three groups feel worse about the economy in this administration than they did in the first Trump administration.
00:46:07There are a lot of things in this economy that are going right.
00:46:11The stock market is doing well.
00:46:13Wages are going up.
00:46:15They're not keeping up with inflation, but they are going up.
00:46:18So why do people feel so bad about the economy?
00:46:22The wages not keeping up with inflation is the key point there.
00:46:25So people don't feel like they're able to get ahead.
00:46:27The share of consumers who are expecting their wages to grow faster than inflation fell from 18% just a
00:46:34year and a half ago to only 11% in September.
00:46:37That's a huge drop.
00:46:39Xu says consumer sentiment initially went up when Trump was reelected two years ago.
00:46:44One of my top priorities will be to quickly defeat inflation and make America affordable again.
00:46:51But he has failed to deliver on one of his key campaign promises, which he made right here in Michigan
00:46:57just a few weeks before Election Day.
00:46:59It'll all happen very quickly.
00:47:01This will rapidly drive prices down, lower interest rates and put more money into the pockets of American consumers.
00:47:09It'll also bring your grocery bill way down.
00:47:11Grocery prices rose by more than 4% over the past two years.
00:47:16Gas prices rose 35%.
00:47:18And mortgage rates are projected to stay above 7% through next year.
00:47:24It would not surprise me if we see a rate that starts with an 8 before we see a rate
00:47:29that starts with a 6.
00:47:31In Northville, Michigan, we met real estate agent Michael Perna.
00:47:35How long would a house like this normally sit on the market?
00:47:38A week.
00:47:39And how long has it been on?
00:47:40It's been 35 days.
00:47:42So is it priced right?
00:47:44I think we're a little over.
00:47:45And that's because the mortgage rates have changed?
00:47:48Yeah.
00:47:48We've raised initially mortgage rates were about 6.5%.
00:47:50And now that they're 7.5% and buyers can afford $50,000 less, we're a little bit over.
00:47:55So it's a fantastic neighborhood.
00:47:56He says every rate hike means buyers have to settle for less.
00:48:01If you can't afford a house where you want to buy, regardless of how stable your income is, you probably
00:48:08have a pretty bad attitude about this economy.
00:48:11Yeah, absolutely.
00:48:12A lot of people, myself included, have a bad attitude about this economy.
00:48:15You have a bad attitude.
00:48:16I do.
00:48:18So will sour consumers make for angry voters?
00:48:22Back at the cider mill, some are optimistic, but not all.
00:48:26Are you a supporter of the tariffs? You think that's a good idea?
00:48:30It raises all of our prices.
00:48:32So it's hard, but when you think long-term, I think that it's needed.
00:48:36You think eventually it'll bring more manufacturing back to the U.S.?
00:48:40Yes, and that's what we need.
00:48:41Is this the economy that you expected under President Trump in the second term?
00:48:45No.
00:48:47What did you expect?
00:48:50He promises, and I don't think he kept these promises.
00:48:54The average public is paying a price.
00:48:57I'm not looking for my $5,000 check because I know that's not coming, but I don't know how long
00:49:01the economy and the average person is going to be able to sustain what we're going through right now.
00:49:25A few musicians working today have blended experimental music and pop as successfully as the Spanish star Rosalia.
00:49:35And she's got the hits and Grammys to prove it. With Seth Doan, we take note.
00:49:41I really like how concentrated the energy is in spaces like this.
00:49:46This superstar knows about energy and performing.
00:49:51Her song, inspired by a 12th-century mystic featuring an orchestra and a booming choir, is not the typical pop
00:49:59formula.
00:50:04Then again, there's nothing typical about Rosalia.
00:50:17With operatic vocals in Spanish and German, but also an appearance from Bjork.
00:50:29This song, performed at this year's Brit Awards, makes clear the 34-year-old Spaniard's reverence for the classics and
00:50:38desire to do something different.
00:50:46As you were working on this album, how much were you thinking about opera, about tradition?
00:50:52It was definitely a big inspiration.
00:50:54So, New York's Metropolitan Opera House seemed a fitting setting to chat after the global tour for her latest album,
00:51:03Lux, which is Latin for light.
00:51:06Was this tour more demanding than for other albums?
00:51:09Than any I've ever done.
00:51:11Performing on point, for instance, and singing in Japanese, Ukrainian, Catalan and Arabic.
00:51:17She wrote lyrics in 14 languages.
00:51:21If you find 14 languages in this album, it's not from a place of exhibition, but a search for communion.
00:51:29Lux was so anticipated that a countdown to announce it snarled traffic in Madrid.
00:51:35The album features the stories of female saints and mystics through history.
00:51:41One might not think, oh, Olga of Kiev, the 10th century ruler, that will make a great song.
00:51:47I didn't know about her. And this woman, she was an assassin before becoming a saint.
00:51:52Some of them were poets, they were prostitutes, some were drug addicts.
00:51:57And sometimes you wouldn't connect sainthood to these words, and it was definitely very inspiring.
00:52:03Do you think about, will this be a commercial success? Will people want to buy an album like this?
00:52:09On one side, there's the responsibility, you know, of, okay, I have an office.
00:52:15There's people that I care about. But at the same time, I only can do what's honest for me.
00:52:22And it took me two years to make this album, Lux.
00:52:24The self-described perfectionist kept making tweaks so close to the deadline that there are slight differences between the digital
00:52:32version and the vinyl.
00:52:34I couldn't do this for too long, because otherwise it would be interminable. It would be, you know, like I
00:52:41could be forever doing it.
00:52:43When you listen to the album now, are there things you say, oh, I wish I had done this or
00:52:47that?
00:52:47Yeah, always.
00:52:48Can you give me an example?
00:52:49A mix.
00:52:50Oh, the violins here, they could be half a dB up. Oh, my voice here, I could have done another
00:52:58take.
00:52:58Can you then enjoy listening to your own album?
00:53:01I never listen to my albums.
00:53:02You don't?
00:53:03No.
00:53:03Why?
00:53:04Because it's pointless.
00:53:06Pointless?
00:53:06Yes.
00:53:07But it's something you've created.
00:53:08I've created it to share it, to let it go. Why would I listen it back? I would be tortured.
00:53:18Her fans would disagree. Rosalia's four albums showcase vast range.
00:53:23Her first was a modern twist on the flamenco she'd spent years studying in music school.
00:53:342022's Motomami fused rap and reggaeton.
00:53:39And topped multiple album of the year lists.
00:53:43And now, Lux.
00:53:54You have a four-part symphonic structure to this. You have choirs, a London Symphony Orchestra. You didn't make your
00:54:02life easy.
00:54:04Yes, it's true. But I don't think I ever do.
00:54:07Why? What is that inside of you?
00:54:09I don't know. There's just something, some, mmm, algo como un fuego, like a fire. Some sort of, like, urgency
00:54:18and love for what I don't know.
00:54:21That curiosity was ignited in childhood. Born Rosalia Villatobella near Barcelona, she remembers running headlong down a hill with family
00:54:31trying to stop her.
00:54:33I fell to the floor, and then I opened my forehead, and then they had to take me to the
00:54:37hospital and saw it. And I have this mark here.
00:54:41And this is a reminder that maybe since I was a kid, that's who I was. I never stay still.
00:54:49I never stay, no.
00:54:51So, if there is something like a guardian angel, mine is definitely, is definitely tired. He cannot even stop for
00:55:01a cigarette.
00:55:04And, yeah, I've stressed the poor thing out.
00:55:09That stressed, tired guardian angel has been good to her.
00:55:15Considering she was dropped from a Spanish talent show when she was 15.
00:55:20That experience taught me that I had to prepare a lot. It really helped me grow. I'm very grateful for
00:55:26it.
00:55:30By 2021, Pitchfork was including her on its list of the most important artists of the last 25 years.
00:55:40With her sometimes experimental sound and juxtaposition of styles, Rosalia is about as close to the avant-garde as mainstream
00:55:49pop gets.
00:55:50She's a fashionista, a staple at the Met Gala, amused for designers and brands.
00:55:56If you're from Kansas, cut us some slack.
00:55:59And is now acting, too.
00:56:01What is Kansas?
00:56:03I try to have fun while I try new things. And I try not to be in fear. I think
00:56:09if this is my nature, then I embrace it.
00:56:12And in this latest album, inspired by saints, Rosalia reveals an almost spiritual commitment to her craft.
00:56:21Being a musician, for me, is an office as noble as somebody who makes bread or shoes. So I just
00:56:28go to the studio and try to put my love and my energy.
00:56:34You'll go in and just work and work and work?
00:56:36Yeah, but out of devotion. I love this. I love making music. So I devoted my life to that.
00:57:12がいってくるみのあるな好きなところがあるの韓国ですが、