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CTP (S4E175) How Propaganda Shapes Israel, Gaza, And The West
We talk with Eran Evron about how propaganda, selective outrage, and bad incentives keep the Israel Gaza conflict locked in a cycle of violence. We also zoom out to the West, asking how long-term ideological campaigns, media narratives, and civic attention spans shape what people believe and how they act.
• Eran’s background in Israel, IDF service, and life in the United States
• A cockpit emergency axe story as a lesson in security design and situational awareness
• The claim that peace requires ending lies and tightening definitions of “occupation,” “genocide,” and “starvation”
• The idea of long-term strategy versus the West’s short-term political attention
• New DIchotomy as investigative commentary on Israeli government corruption and Netanyahu
• Debate over the two-state solution history and what “Free Palestine” is in full reality
• October 7, war crimes allegations, civilian harm, and who gets held accountable
• Aid, human shields, and why information literacy matters during conflict
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We talk with Eran Evron about how propaganda, selective outrage, and bad incentives keep the Israel Gaza conflict locked in a cycle of violence. We also zoom out to the West, asking how long-term ideological campaigns, media narratives, and civic attention spans shape what people believe and how they act.
• Eran’s background in Israel, IDF service, and life in the United States
• A cockpit emergency axe story as a lesson in security design and situational awareness
• The claim that peace requires ending lies and tightening definitions of “occupation,” “genocide,” and “starvation”
• The idea of long-term strategy versus the West’s short-term political attention
• New DIchotomy as investigative commentary on Israeli government corruption and Netanyahu
• Debate over the two-state solution history and what “Free Palestine” is in full reality
• October 7, war crimes allegations, civilian harm, and who gets held accountable
• Aid, human shields, and why information literacy matters during conflict
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00:00Hello, welcome to another episode of Perstitutionalist Podcast.
00:06I am your host, Joseph M. Leonard.
00:09That's L-E-N-A-R-D.
00:12It looks French.
00:13It's not.
00:14It's Leonard without an O.
00:17Thank you for tuning in, as Graham Norton used to say, on his show.
00:24Let's get on with the show!
00:25So, this is going to be a quick cheat intro segment.
00:31I'm going to be lazy.
00:32I've got so many guest recordings built up.
00:37I'm going to get lazy and cheat on some Saturdays.
00:41I don't have to dream up a monologue topic this way.
00:45So, and I'm also not going to say what guest will be appearing, because I'm going to be
00:51lazy and cheat and use this same intro several Saturdays to intro a guest show.
01:01So, as Graham Norton used to say, let's get on with the show!
01:07Surprise interview!
01:09Joining me today is Aaron Evron.
01:15And, of course, regulars know the way my ADHD-OCD-riddled duality brain works.
01:23I can't pass.
01:25Evron makes me think Evron, which then makes me think Energizer Bunny commercial.
01:34Never heard that before.
01:36Yeah, right!
01:38That's just the way my warped brain works.
01:44Welcome to the show, Aaron.
01:46How are you?
01:49Doing well.
01:50Doing well.
01:51It's been a busy week.
01:52Thank you so much for the opportunity.
01:55Love to be here.
01:56Thanks for inviting me.
01:57I hope to have a great conversation with you.
01:59Glad we were able to get this to work out.
02:02We kind of, just behind the scenes, we connected via pod match and kind of, almost last minute, kind of
02:11getting this together.
02:13But, hey, it worked out.
02:15Here we are.
02:15So, and I saw you said, what interested me to wanting to talk to you is you said, and I
02:26think I understand where you're coming from on this, but I want to get it from the horse's mouth.
02:33You said, for the age of peace to begin, the age of life must end.
02:40That's an interesting thought, but before we go there, where were you born and raised, where are you now, significant
02:52places you've been in between, that sort of stuff.
02:57Yeah, so I was born in Israel, I grew up in Israel up until 1999, I served in the IDF
03:05from 93 to 96, and I relocated to the United States.
03:10I lived in New York State in the past three and a half years, and right now, currently, as I'm
03:18recording this, I'm in Israel.
03:20I'm in my father's home, I have been in Israel for the first time, I arrived in Israel for the
03:29first time in 24 years.
03:32Yeah, you didn't go via fly Dubai, hopefully.
03:37No, no, no.
03:39I know, I know, I should, too soon, too soon, don't joke about such stuff.
03:45No, well, it ended up fine, you know, they saved the flight.
03:50So you were allowed to make jokes on that, on that subject.
03:53It was not a tragedy.
03:55Right, many miracles.
03:57I mean, the miracle that he didn't kill the pilot and be able to take over the plane, miracle.
04:04That the pilot was able to unlatch the cockpit door so others could get in, miracle.
04:12That they got in, miracle.
04:14That there were others who could fly the plane on the plane and able to recover and fly, miracle.
04:21The fact that the rudder was ripped off because of the tolerances of the plane design was exceeded in the
04:31dive,
04:32survived that miracle and they could fly it without the rudder to an airport and land it safely.
04:39Like, I see five or six miracles on that day.
04:44Well, another one, which is the fact that they actually noticed that something was going on.
04:49It's just because a mother of a little girl took her daughter to the bathroom.
04:55And this, like, five or six-year-old girl said, you know, mother, mother, there's something going on in the
04:59cockpit.
05:00And that's what started the whole thing.
05:03People got up from their seats and stormed the cockpit.
05:06And at that time, it was open.
05:08So it was kind of nuts.
05:09Right, which would have all been irrelevant had he been able to use the axe to kill the pilot.
05:18The door would have remained locked and he would have been able to slam in the Tel Aviv airport, murdering
05:27thousands as well as all those on the plane and putting that airport out of commission for, you know, God
05:36only knows who long.
05:37And most people don't realize, because at first the reporting I wrote on this at beforeitsnews.com, most people don't
05:46realize there is a cockpit axe.
05:49Because if a plane has issues and in flight and whatever, if that frame gets warped, if they have an
06:01emergency landing, they may need the axe to actually break their way out of the cockpit.
06:09So he didn't smuggle in a knife, but unfortunately, the pilot, out of respect, gave him privacy to supposedly pay
06:19no attention.
06:21So the way I see it is they need to put warning bells and flashing lights on that axe.
06:28The minute anyone attempts to touch that axe, the entire plane ought to know about it.
06:35That's a good idea.
06:37That's a good idea.
06:37Yeah, hopefully something from the, someone from the Mossad is listening to this podcast and can implement that on future.
06:45Yeah, and the other thing is, I mean, way back when there used to be a third communications officer in
06:54there, if you have three people in the cockpit, there's less chance one could then overpower two others.
07:03So there's that too.
07:05It would cost more, but maybe we need a communications or security officer in the cockpit.
07:13But anyway, you're not here to talk about all that.
07:18I've already gotten us off the rails.
07:20What indeed do you mean by for the age of peace to begin, the age of life must end?
07:29Well, the lies are concerning Israel, mostly.
07:33There's a concerted campaign against Israel and against the Jews.
07:39It's been conducted in the West, in Western media and in Western universities.
07:45University has been going on for a long time.
07:48Are you familiar with an organization called ISGAP, the Institution for the Study of Antisemitism and Global Policy?
07:58I'm certainly aware of the anti-definition, ADL, but no, I've not heard that particular organization you mentioned.
08:12Yeah, it's the actual name, I should say, it's the Institute for the Study of Global Antisemitism and Policy.
08:21It's called ISGAP.
08:22And they've issued a last year report about the Muslim Brotherhood, which is a terrorist organization based out of Qatar.
08:31Qatar and Muslim Brotherhood are synonymous, one of the same.
08:35And they have a 100-year plan to conquer the West from within by infiltrating and have their own people
08:49planted in American politics for the purpose of bringing down the West.
08:56And those people are bringing ideas that are foreign to American policy, like socialism, for example.
09:07That's Mamdani in New York.
09:09They preach for Sharia law, and they are very, very dangerous people.
09:15And that report, it's a 234-page report, and I commend anybody who considers himself an American patriot to go
09:26to ISGAP.org and read that report because it was issued on the 50-year anniversary of that 100-year
09:35plan of bringing down the West.
09:38And they are winning, okay?
09:40We're not paying attention to what is going on.
09:43And I'm not all about conspiracy theories and all that.
09:46This is what they're saying.
09:48They despise the West.
09:49They despise Western values.
09:52And most people out there are thinking that the Free Palestine campaign is a campaign against the Jews and against
10:00Israel.
10:01It is not.
10:03The purpose of this campaign is to hurt American economy.
10:11Think for a minute what would happen to America, okay, if this started 20 years ago, and the Jewish people,
10:22the Jewish entrepreneurs who are behind companies like Google or Facebook or Oracle, they're all Jewish.
10:29Six out of the 10 richest people in the world are Jews.
10:34And if those companies, if, let's just say, the parents of Mark Zuckerberg would look out the window and see
10:40all of those people, Free Palestine, kill all the Jews with the swastikas and the Nazi symbolism, walking down the
10:48street, they would say,
10:49Hey, hey, little Mark, we got to leave America, we're not safe here anymore.
10:53All right?
10:53They take little Mark and go immigrate to Israel or to Switzerland.
10:58If that would happen to a lot of Jews, young Jews who would become the founders of America's most prominent
11:09Fortune 500 companies, the damage to the American economy would have been incalculable.
11:16It would have been in the trillions upon trillions of dollars.
11:19And this is exactly the process that we are seeing now.
11:21We're seeing them making the Muslim Brotherhood, which wants to destroy America.
11:27They are financing campaigns against Israel and against the Jews, trying to convince people that Israel is a colonialism, a
11:40colonialist state, which is a...
11:43Uh-oh.
11:45Uh-oh.
11:46You froze.
11:48Are you there?
11:50Hello.
11:52Oh, there we go.
11:53Okay.
11:54All of those things have been debunked.
11:55Oh, hold on.
11:56Oh, you froze up there for a second.
11:59So, I don't know how much we got.
12:06It's my long way of answering your questions.
12:09Those are the lies that I'm fighting against because for us to have peace, especially in a place like Israel,
12:16for us to have peace in Israel, we have to stop lying.
12:19We have to stop lying as if this is occupied land because it isn't, all right?
12:24And we have to stop lying as if Israel wanted anything else but peace.
12:29Israel was attacked.
12:32Okay.
12:32They declared war on Israel.
12:34And, yeah, innocent people are getting killed, but those are the consequences of war.
12:38So, those lies have to stop.
12:40And we have to acknowledge the fact that when those people, those people, the Muslim Brotherhood and their affiliates or
12:50the people who serve this monster, monster organization, this terrorist organization, people like Mamdani in New York and this El
12:58Saeed and Mehdi Hassan and his website, Tateo, which is they spread poison all the time against Israel, against the
13:08Jews, against you.
13:09But the purpose is not really Israel.
13:11The thing is, this is going to surprise you, okay?
13:14Well, they say death to Israel and death to America.
13:18It's about Western free societies in general.
13:23Absolutely agree with you.
13:24The Jews are just the easy first target, but not the only target.
13:31And the part that I was getting to, that there's a lot of people in Israel who actually hope, get
13:37this, they hope for this anti-Semitism and hatred to actually increase.
13:42Why?
13:43Because they want the Jews.
13:45They want, yeah, you guys in, hello, dear Jews of France, you don't feel safe in France?
13:52Come, come, come, come.
13:53We'll take you.
13:54Come over.
13:55Pack your shit and come over.
13:56You Jews of Canada, you don't feel safe in Canada.
13:59It's overrun with you hating Muslims.
14:02They pick up your stuff.
14:03Come to Israel.
14:04We'll take, make Israel, you know, the best economy, the most competitive economy in the world.
14:11It's already the top, one of the biggest economies in the world per capita in terms of foreign investment.
14:18Like the foreign investment in America per capita is about $800 and Israel is $2,600.
14:25Okay.
14:26This is, I think it's like Sweden.
14:28So Israel is getting stronger.
14:30Actually, if you look at the economy, the economy in Israel, even during the time of war.
14:34A nation of 330 million people have a lot of lazy lowlifes dragging down that statistic.
14:42But anyway, to your point, I agree, like China, the CCP, and the Islamo-fascist types, like the Iran leadership,
14:56Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, the Muslim Brotherhood, indeed all have, they're more patient in a way.
15:08They have long-term goals, whereas a lot of the West, I call it the Twitter attention span.
15:18Only now, now, now, now, 10 years from now, whatever, now.
15:26But you have to take into account short, medium, and long-term plans and goals.
15:34And our enemies have a say in all that.
15:40You have to pay attention, as you're pointing out, to their short-term, medium, and long-term goals.
15:48Well, that's not, yes, exactly.
15:51That's exactly what I was referring to.
15:52So they have a long-term goal, right?
15:55They have a 100-year plan to bring down America, and they are winning.
15:59We need a similar long-term goal, and we need to understand that they want to bring us down.
16:05We cannot accept their hate.
16:08We have to reject.
16:09That's the whole message I'm trying to get to in my show, in New Dichotomy.
16:13It's a show that I'm doing.
16:14Right now, I'm focusing on the corruption of the Israeli government.
16:18I think Netanyahu is one of the most dangerous and corrupt politicians to ever exist.
16:24That's what the show is about.
16:25But as soon as we're done with the election here in Israel on October 27th, and hopefully
16:30we'll throw that dictator, horrible, horrible person out of office, and we'll start a new
16:39way.
16:39Then I will pivot, and I'll start making episodes of the new economy that are focusing on the
16:46elements within America, such as the names that I mentioned, Mamdani and all that, that
16:52are, should be dealt with, let's say.
16:55I'm not saying, God forbid, with violence, but I'm saying we should acknowledge their true
17:00intention, and they're signaling them, because their intention, what they're doing, I said
17:04the first part, which is poisoning our political discourse against the Jews and against Israel,
17:11which is an important ally.
17:13A lot of technical, technological advantages that America and Israel are doing together
17:21are in jeopardy, because the public is being educated by the Muslim Brotherhood to hate Israel
17:28and protest against Israel, although it's an important ally of the United States.
17:33I mean, the purpose here is to hurt America, and the other thing that they do is to bring
17:37in people from Somalia, who are basically from countries like Somalia, replacing them with
17:46people who are basically on welfare.
17:48This is, I'm sure you're paying attention to what's going on in Europe.
17:51Coward and piven, yes, exactly.
17:53Now, I mean, we can shove the Hamas charter in people's face over and over, but leftists are delusional.
18:05They can see it, they can read it, they can hear it from their own mouth, but they'll go on
18:13ignoring it,
18:14as if it isn't there.
18:15They can hear the chant, death to America and death to Israel, and they just go on in their delusional
18:24bubble,
18:24ignoring it.
18:26It's just amazing.
18:28So I want to repeat again, though, from the top, for the age of peace to begin, the age of
18:34life must end.
18:36So by life there, we mean the living only for today kind of attitude.
18:45No, no, it's the age of, I don't know where you got life.
18:48Maybe there's a mistake in my, it's lies, not lies.
18:53Oh, age of lives must end.
18:56But yeah, see, double check your pod match bio, because I'm pretty sure I copied and pasted it verbatim.
19:08But, you know, I could be wrong.
19:11I could be wrong.
19:12I see it, it works either way in my mind.
19:17Yes, the lies must end, but also are only wanting to live for today and not be concerned about the
19:26future.
19:28To me, both works.
19:32Yeah.
19:33No, it's lies.
19:34For the age of peace to begin, the age of lies.
19:37Stop lying.
19:38You know, as to that, that's what I wrote.
19:42I'm not sure where this life, I'll check.
19:45You might be right, but I know this is what I wrote in my, on my passport.
19:52You might have been victim of autocorrect, or I might have been victim of autocorrect.
19:57I don't know, right?
20:00But both check on that.
20:03You know, mistakes happen.
20:05Yeah.
20:06Right?
20:07We're all human.
20:09We're all frailed and flawed and imperfect.
20:13Shit happens at times.
20:15So, indeed, let's give the name of the podcast again.
20:23It's actually, it's called NewDichotomy.com, okay?
20:29NewDichotomy.com is actually, right now, it's a show.
20:33It's sort of investigative journalism.
20:35If you watch Bill Maher, for example, he does this editorial at the end of every show where he talks
20:42about a single issue,
20:43and he has several, he quoting from several articles, that's sort of what I'm doing.
20:48So, it's a show, like the John Stewart show or whatever.
20:51But it's an investigative journalism show in which I talk about the corruption of Benjamin Netanyahu.
20:59That's episodes five, four, five, and six.
21:02And then on episode eight and nine, what I do is I get deep into the Palestinians, and I try
21:10to explain to an American audience how corrupt the Palestinians are.
21:14And I think it's going to be pretty shocking.
21:18Right.
21:19We keep using, so many people keep using that term.
21:23There's no such thing.
21:24The two-state solution, why?
21:26Five times a two-state solution, Israel giving up land for peace, has been proposed five times.
21:37Even in this millennia, it's been rejected by the other side every time, which puts the lie to, oh, we
21:49just want a Palestinian state.
21:52You could have had it.
21:53You rejected it five times.
21:58Yeah, and they keep rejecting it, and yet people out there, really, they want to blame Israel because hatred, ignorance,
22:09call it stupidity, I'm not sure.
22:12But they really don't know the fact.
22:14As soon as you try to talk to a free Palestine moron, then everything, all of their facts, they have
22:22no arguments against it.
22:25They just don't know anything.
22:26Take, for example, remember that Javier Bardem thing at the Oscars?
22:32The what at the Oscars?
22:34You watch the Oscars?
22:37Yeah, I'm familiar with them, but no, I haven't watched them in decades.
22:42He was presenting an award on the Oscars, and during the Oscars, and he said, the first thing, he crouched
22:50over to the microphone and said, no to war.
22:53Also, free Palestine.
22:56Wow.
22:56That's just to show you how much of a moron this person is.
23:01What is free Palestine?
23:03It's short for free Palestine from the river to the sea.
23:06Well, there's another country right now that exists from the river to the sea, between the river and the sea.
23:12It's called Israel.
23:13It's a sovereign nation.
23:15It's a member of the UN.
23:17It's the homeland of the Jewish people.
23:20They tried to take that land and destroy, decimate the entire Jewish population since the 1920s, even before they had
23:27a country.
23:28And they beat all of those armies of invading Muslims from Syria, from Jordan, from Lebanon, from Egypt, from whatever.
23:40They've been successfully winning all of the wars that have been declared them.
23:45And somehow, people out there, like Javier Bardem, thinking that there's a country called Palestine, a country that never existed,
23:55and it should be freed.
23:56Well, the question is, well, how are you going to free Palestine, you moron?
24:00By what?
24:01Are you going to tell all the Jews that there's sales at Macy's, and they're all going to go to
24:06the sales and come back home and see that the Arabs took their home?
24:09How are you going to do that exactly?
24:11Where the Arabs have been failing in doing exactly that for over 100 years.
24:17When you're telling people, free Palestine, then it's a war.
24:22It's a declaration of war.
24:24Yeah.
24:24And it was, it was, it was, Gaza was free.
24:31Gaza, Israel withdrew.
24:34Gaza had an election.
24:37They elected the Hamas terrorists, which then immediately did what Hitler did, suspended all future elections and declared themselves furors
24:49for life, spent a decade building and preparing to engage in another war.
24:55So you had peace, you had freedom, and you did what declared war and attacked civilian targets on October 7th.
25:09No military target was struck.
25:12You murdered, maimed, raped Jewish innocent citizens, including children, putting some infants in ovens.
25:23There is no possible interpretation of that to a thinking person other than what it is.
25:36It's getting, it's getting, it's even worse than that.
25:39I've, I've been exposed to some of those videos and some of, some of the testimonials from paramedics who were
25:44there on October 7th.
25:47And it's absolutely horrifying.
25:49I won't repeat it because your, your guests would be revolted by it and it truly is revolting.
25:54Yeah, some of them literally live streamed their murder, rioting, looting, and arson rampages.
26:04They live streamed it.
26:06But yet again, oh no, those are all AI fakes.
26:11Yeah, those are, yeah, people believe what they want to believe.
26:14Exactly.
26:14It's, it's amazing.
26:15Delusion.
26:16It's extreme, a massacre, and people still are stupid enough to think that they're, it's not a real thing.
26:22It's, it's absolutely mind-boggling.
26:25Then you have all of the, you know, you open the TV and you see Greta Thunberg and Susan Sarandon
26:30and all those, it's, yeah, free Palestine.
26:33Yeah, okay, well, it was free.
26:35This is the Palestinian government who did this, okay?
26:38I don't like to use the word Hamas.
26:40This is the Palestinian government.
26:42So, yeah, you want to take Israel, which is a democracy, a free country, democracy, which they have in Tel
26:50Aviv, gay parades, and the technology, and some of the best technology that exists in the world, and Nobel Prize
26:58winners, and all that, and free, everybody, free speech, and all that.
27:02Arabs in Israel can vote.
27:04The Arabs in Palestine cannot vote, okay?
27:08Right.
27:08And you want to take that.
27:10Let's take it.
27:10We don't want that.
27:11We don't want, we, Susan Sarandon, Javier Bardem, they don't, we don't want that.
27:16No, we need to get rid of that, this democracy, this thriving democracy, the only home of the Jewish people,
27:24and we need to throw that out, and we need to take that Palestinian government, which they're stabbing little babies,
27:30and killing, murdering their own people by the thousands, killing a lot of Palestinians, killing a lot of Palestinians, and
27:38this is what we want.
27:40Yeah, we want to expand that, yeah, we want to expand that, yeah, we want to expand that for the
27:42whole area between the river and the sea.
27:44We have people of the east here.
27:45Yeah, stealing the aid that Jewish people keep sending in to Gaza, stealing it, taking it for themselves at the
27:56top, typical fascist, commie, socialist government, the ruling, they take it all.
28:04It doesn't get to the people, it doesn't get to the people, it's sent in to help, and then they
28:09complain, people are hungry, people are starving.
28:13Well, you stole the aid, you took all the cement that would go for infrastructure, and used it to build
28:22terror tunnels.
28:24You took the pipes that were supposed to go to help deliver water to people who need it, and made
28:33makeshift missiles out of them.
28:36So the aid was there, you're not letting it, you're starving and harming your own people.
28:45So it isn't even only, what was it, Gilda that said, right, we can only have peace when the Arabs
28:56love their children more than they hate the Jews.
29:00Right, that's exactly, I'm glad you remember that quote, that's one of my favorites, it's a classic, and it's absolutely
29:07true.
29:08Another thing that she said, if you remember, that if the Arabs would lay down their arms, there wouldn't be
29:17war, there wouldn't be war.
29:19If the Jews laid down their arms, there would be no more Jews.
29:24Exactly, and again, it is so obvious to anyone who has actual eyes that don't have blinders on them, ears
29:35that don't have earplugs in them, to see and hear, all through history, this has repeated.
29:44But yet people want to deny what's right under their nose.
29:52Muslims and Christians live and work freely in Israel.
29:58You don't get that in Palestine or Gaza.
30:05I don't like using the word Palestine, it's not a real place.
30:09Gaza, Christians and Jews don't live and work there freely, like Arabs and Muslims and, you know, Christians in the
30:21Jewish homeland can.
30:23They live and work together freely, together, without problems.
30:29It's these external forces always that are the problem.
30:35I think with something like one-third, I'm not sure about the number, but one-third of all the doctors
30:40and nurses in Israeli hospitals are Muslims, Arab.
30:43If you go to an Israeli hospital, it's almost statistically improbable that at least one of the nurses you meet
30:52or one of the doctors is going to be an Arab Muslim, all right?
30:55And they're part of Israeli society.
30:58There are two million Arabs living there, both Muslim Arabs and Christian Arabs.
31:06They all have equal rights.
31:08They all vote and get elected.
31:10They all, right.
31:12They all can get elected and be part of your government.
31:16A Christian or a Jew sure as hell can't be part of the Gaza government.
31:22Yeah, and tell me, why is it that all those people who shout out free Palestine don't really say anything
31:31about Jordan, okay?
31:33Jordan, 60%, I think, again, I could be wrong about the numbers.
31:3760% of the population of Jordan are Palestinians.
31:40They have different IDs than the other Jordanians, and they cannot vote.
31:46They don't have equal rights.
31:47They do in Israel, but they don't have in Jordan.
31:49But here are those people saying free Palestine, but they don't talk about Syria, which is exactly the same.
31:54They won't give them citizenship, okay?
31:57They don't give them citizenship in Jordan, but somehow Israel is the only problem.
32:03It's about hating Jews, really.
32:06How can you not think it's not about hating Jews?
32:09Exactly.
32:10They keep talking to you also about open air prison there in Gaza, which is complete nonsense.
32:17They vilify Israel for not opening up the border or whatever, as if Israel is ever going to open up
32:23the border to a bunch of mass murderers and rapists.
32:27They teach them in school that the only good thing, the only good way for a Muslim to honor his
32:36family is to murder as many Jews as possible and die a martyr for the cause.
32:42Every family in Gaza hopes that at least one of their kids, at least one, will bring honor to the
32:49family by murdering Jews and dying as a martyr.
32:53And that's not hyperbole.
32:56It's not conspiracy theory.
32:59You can see the damn videos for yourself if you bother to look for them.
33:08You can see they still have the program, the martyrdom program, where if your child puts on a murder-suicide
33:20vest, blows themselves up, taking out some Jews, they will pay that family 25 grand or whatever it is.
33:30These aren't fantasies.
33:32They aren't fictions.
33:33They exist.
33:35You can see it.
33:36It happens all the time.
33:39But again, the delusional left will not ever open their eyes.
33:47And the thing that you kind of only lightly touched on it about gays in Tel Aviv.
33:55Queers for Palestine in America.
33:59There is nothing more laughable to me than queers for Palestine.
34:06It's like, okay, we'll start a GoFundMe to send you queers to Palestine.
34:12And guess what will happen to you?
34:15You'll be thrown from a rooftop or stoned to death.
34:20Queers in Israel don't have that happen to them.
34:24Queers in America don't have that happening to them.
34:28But if you go to Sharia law Muslim nations, you will be killed, even though they're raping little boys.
34:39You know, an adult male raping a boy child somehow isn't gay.
34:46But if, as an adult, you choose to engage in gay sex, how does that work?
34:58Yeah, look, chickens for KFC, man.
35:01Yeah, right.
35:02That's the movement.
35:04Those people are idiots.
35:05Well, you can't think stupid.
35:06How do you tell somebody who's really, really stupid?
35:10Yeah.
35:10Trump said something about it.
35:12It's like, let's get you.
35:13I'm going to get you a one-way ticket to Gaza, and we'll never hear from you again.
35:17Goodbye.
35:17Exactly.
35:19Bye would be rid of you.
35:21That would be great.
35:22That's it.
35:22Bring your parachute.
35:24But, of course, they don't string up Greta Thunberg because she's a useful idiot for them.
35:30They want to make use of the Greta Thunbergs of the world.
35:36So, all right.
35:38Let me give you another angle that your audience might not have considered.
35:43This is what I'm saying.
35:44You're thinking, everybody kind of thinks that Greta Thunberg and Javier Bardem, larger waters and all those free Palestines are
35:55at odds with Israel.
35:57You know, that's the old dichotomy, my friend.
36:00This is old dichotomy is free Palestine versus pro-Israel people.
36:07Okay?
36:08No.
36:08I want to challenge those old dichotomies.
36:12My show is called New Dichotomy.
36:13What's the new dichotomy?
36:14Guess what?
36:15All of those free Palestine people and the Israeli government, the criminal, Benjamin Netanyahu, they're all playing for the same
36:24team.
36:26Okay?
36:26They're all on the same side.
36:27All of those people worship at the altar of the gods of war.
36:32This is how it works.
36:34Roger Waters goes on Joe Rogan, whatever, tell them, you live under an occupation.
36:40You should resist.
36:43You have to resist under international law and bomb the crap out of Israel.
36:47It's your duty.
36:48Well, those are war crimes encouraging the Palestinians to commit war crimes.
36:53If Roger Waters were truly a man of peace, he would have told them exactly what you said earlier.
37:00You know, don't use your money for weapons.
37:03Recognize Israel.
37:04Don't pick a fight with Israel because they're much, much, much stronger than you.
37:08They will kill you.
37:09Okay?
37:09They will defend their home.
37:10They'll kill you.
37:11But I don't want you dead.
37:12I want you to live.
37:13So, invest in infrastructure, invest in water treatment, water desalination plants, invest in power plants.
37:21Then the model works in Gaza and you're headed toward peace and reconciliation with Israel.
37:27Then they'll have to implement that also in the West Bank.
37:31But that's not what he's saying.
37:32He's encouraging the Palestinians to commit war crimes to attack Israel.
37:37Great.
37:37The Palestinians are now attacking Israel.
37:38And Benjamin Netanyahu has a reason to drop a whole lot of bombs on Gaza.
37:45So, I'm sure that Benjamin Netanyahu, before dropping bombs on Gaza, says,
37:51Thank you, Greta Thunberg.
37:55Thank you, Roger Waters.
37:57Thank you, Javier Bardem.
37:59Thank you, Susan Sarandon.
38:01I could not have done this without you.
38:03He needs those idiots out there to encourage the Palestinians to attack Israel so he has a reason to drop
38:13bombs on Gaza.
38:14And those liars, okay, and if we want peace, now we're finally getting there.
38:20If we want peace in Israel, then we need the lies to stop.
38:26We need to stop lying.
38:28Stop telling the truth.
38:29There's no occupation.
38:30There's no starvation.
38:31No genocide.
38:32Stop the lies.
38:33And we can finally have peace.
38:35But not before.
38:37Yeah.
38:38Well, I'm going to push back just a little.
38:42Go ahead.
38:43There's no starvation.
38:44I think there is some.
38:46But again, who's causing it?
38:51Billions of tons of aid keep rolling in.
38:55But it gets blocked.
38:57It never gets to anyone who is starving.
39:00But it isn't the Jews preventing it.
39:04It's the Arab Muslims who are preventing it from getting to their own people because they want them as victimhood
39:15excuse.
39:15They want them as human shields.
39:19But anyway, we've way shot over the amount of time I usually go.
39:26So give us some closing thoughts.
39:30Well, first of all, yeah, you're partially right about this because there was some starvation, obviously.
39:35But you can't blame Israel for that because Israel allowed more than 200 different trucks.
39:39200 trucks full of aid, gas and medications and food enter Gaza.
39:46And, yes, a lot of it was.
39:47If you're trying to genocide.
39:48There's a policy in government.
39:50Right.
39:50If you're trying to genocide a people, you're really going about it in a stupid fashion.
39:58Yeah, and I'll give you another thing that might be shocking, but there's a study, a U.N. study that
40:03was published in August 7, 2026.
40:07Anybody can look for that, that they actually report, the U.N. report, that kids in Gaza are freaking obese.
40:15They're obese.
40:16There's more calories going into Gaza.
40:18Like here in America, yeah.
40:21Yeah, no, in Gaza, kids in Gaza, we're talking about starvation.
40:25Okay, guess what?
40:27Not only they're starving, they consume too many calories.
40:30That's the U.N. saying that.
40:31There's a report that came out in August.
40:35All of this, you know, starvation in Gaza, this is complete nonsense.
40:40This is all a blood libel against the Jews.
40:43It's a universal, the protocols of the elders of Zion.
40:47None of those things are true.
40:48And it's also like I remember from a couple years back, the hospital was attacked by the Jews.
40:56No, number one, it was an errant Hamas rocket that actually hit the parking lot and not even the hospital.
41:05And the other thing, when the IDF does attack legitimate military targets is because the terrorists are hiding in the
41:17basement of the hospital, hiding in the school.
41:22And Israel, again, if you're trying to genocide people, it's really stupid that you go out of your way to
41:30drop leaflets, send emails and texts.
41:34Hey, get out of there.
41:36This is a target.
41:37We're going to hit it.
41:40Get out of there.
41:42That's the wrong way to conduct a war if you wanted really to commit genocide.
41:49Right.
41:50I mean, let me ask you a question.
41:52Why do you think that all of those idiots out there, New York Times, whatever, UN sometimes blame Israel for
42:02committing genocide in Gaza?
42:05No, or bombing civilians in Gaza, they never, ever hold the Palestinians accountable for a single one of their actions
42:14or decisions.
42:15When you decide to put weapons, missiles, RPGs in schools, in churches, and there's no churches in Gaza, mosques, you're
42:31not supposed to do this.
42:32You're violating international law, and you are making that a legitimate target.
42:36This is no longer a school.
42:38It's a target.
42:38It's being used for stashing weapons, then they, the Palestinians, are making it a legitimate target.
42:46Then when Israel has to bomb those weapon depots.
42:50Oh, my God, it's a school!
42:52Oh, my God, Israel is bombing churches, sorry, mosques, Israel is bombing school, UN schools.
42:58Are you out of your mind?
43:00I mean, they put, they are the one, the Palestinians made it the legitimate target.
43:04You're not supposed to do that.
43:05It's a war crime.
43:07But that's okay, okay?
43:09But when Israel has to deal with all of this violence, then they're in the wrong.
43:16Give me a break.
43:17Yeah, I have a meme I share often, which is perfect, right?
43:21Israel uses its weapons to protect its citizens.
43:27The enemies use their citizens as human shields to protect their weapons, right?
43:33There's one meme where a Palestinian school bus with missiles on it and an Egyptian tank with schoolchildren behind it.
43:44Those are perfect representations.
43:47We, civilized people, try to protect innocent life.
43:53The other side uses them as an excuse to hide behind and engage in victimology for their ideology.
44:04Anyway, again, we've way shot over the amount of time I usually go, so thank you, Aaron Evron, the Energizer
44:14Bunny, as I have now coined you.
44:18And the site is nudichotomy.com, yes?
44:24Yep, that's right.
44:25And I hope to upload new episodes in a couple of months dealing with the Palestinians and more with America,
44:34with the infiltration of extreme Muslim elements into American politics.
44:41Yeah, and we're seeing it more and more, the cooperation of the left, whether I coined them the commie, fascist,
44:49so she's a crack party.
44:52Yeah, it's terrible.
44:53This isn't the 1930s, where the National Socialists, later known as fascists, were engaged in fighting the Moscow-backed communists.
45:07They were all different then.
45:09Today, they are all one big blended together thing.
45:14The cultural Marxists engaged with the Islamo-fascists, and as soon as the Islamo-fascists gain the power and are
45:25done with the useful idiots, the useful idiots will be the first ones to go.
45:31Yeah, do yourself a favor and your audience, just Google how many churches were burnt in America and in Canada
45:40and in Europe in just the last five years.
45:43You know, this is, we are tolerating intolerance, all right?
45:46Check that out.
45:47You'll be shocked.
45:49They get, you get all those Muslims, immigrants in here that do not tolerate, there's no other prophet other than
45:55Muhammad, okay?
45:55Muhammad is the last prophet, whatever.
45:58They do not tolerate Christianity, Jews, anything.
46:01You have to follow Muhammad.
46:02They're burning dozens of churches all over America, all over Canada, all over Europe.
46:08Just look at the statistics.
46:09You'll be amazed by it.
46:10They're attacking, they're not attacking Israel, the Jews, they're attacking America.
46:16Amen, I hear you.
46:17All right, have a good one.
46:19Take care.
46:20Okay, you too.
46:22Pleasure talking to you.
46:25Eyes open wide, not living in fear, just knowing the signs when danger draws near.
47:06They call it paranoia when you pay attention.
47:09But there's a difference between fear and comprehension.
47:12Crime doesn't clock in.
47:14Terrorism has no zip code.
47:16Anytime, any place, you better know which road.
47:18You are not an ostrich with your head buried in sand.
47:21You're a thinker with awareness.
47:23And a reason you still stand.
47:29When the world erupts around you, don't let panic be your guide.
47:36Three options in the crisis moment.
47:38Only one keeps you alive.
47:41Awake, not paranoid, situationally aware.
47:47Not consumed by all the fear porn, but prepared to face what's there.
47:53Fight, flight, or maybe fade.
47:56Know the difference, make the call.
47:59A thinking mind won't be the sheep all trampled when the panic falls.
48:06Awake, not paranoid, awake.
48:11Remember when the music stopped and panic filled the air?
48:14The stampede was the danger, not what triggered the scare.
48:17Fry and pan to fire when you run without a thought.
48:19The threat that really kills you is the panic that you caught.
48:22Mama bear or ostrich, which one are you gonna be?
48:25Assess the situation, is that danger close to me?
48:28Is it in my orbit, is it coming for my space?
48:31Or do I fade to safety, live to fight another day?
48:34When the world erupts around you, don't let panic be your guide.
48:39Three options in the crisis moment.
48:42Only one keeps you alive.
48:45Awake, not paranoid, situationally aware.
48:51Not consumed by all the fear porn, but prepared to face what's there.
48:56Fight, flight, or maybe fade.
48:59Know the difference, make the call.
49:02A thinking mind won't be the sheep all trampled when the panic falls.
49:08Awake, not paranoid.
49:13Awake.
49:14Life over death, hope over fear, faith over despair.
49:18Keep your wits clear, love over hate, good over evil.
49:22Freedom over tyranny, rise above the sheep all.
49:26They said burn out, don't fade away.
49:29But I say fade and live to see another day.
49:31Unless it's in your orbit, unless there's no escape.
49:34Then you stand and fight, that's the choice that heroes make.
49:37Awake means you are watching, not wrapped in paranoia's chains.
49:43You carry situational awareness, like an umbrella when it rains.
49:48Not selling fear, not peddling doom, just asking you to think.
49:54Before the panic swallows reason, and you're swept across the brink.
50:01Awake, not paranoid, situationally aware.
50:06Not consumed by all the fear porn, but prepared to face what's there.
50:11Fight, flight, or maybe fade.
50:14Know the difference, make the call.
50:17A thinking mind won't be the sheep all trampled when the panic falls.
50:24Awake, not paranoid.
50:28Awake.
50:30Think.
50:31Don't panic assess.
50:34Don't assume.
50:38Fade, when you can fight.
50:42When you must awake.
50:46Not paranoid.
50:49Just awake.
50:51Awake.
51:08A recent movie story said, you don't have to be nice.
51:14But if you say you're a good one, you ought to back it up, at least twice.
51:20Out on the street, in the checkout line, with the kid in the car and the clerk on shift.
51:26Goodness is in the line you quote, it's how you carry the lift.
51:34So be nice.
51:35If you're calling yourself good, hold the door.
51:38Say you please, treat folks like you should.
51:41It doesn't cost much, just a little respect.
51:44Be nice while you're here.
51:46It's the best thing, yeah.
51:52It's the best thing, yeah.
52:01I've seen it in the small stuff, the coffee left on the counter by, yeah.
52:08The text, the text that says I'm running late and still shows up straight.
52:14No metal for the easy move.
52:17No badge for the polished grin.
52:21Just a way to leave a room better, than the way you walked in.
52:27So be nice.
52:29If you call me yourself good, hold the door.
52:32Say you please, treat folks like you should.
52:35It doesn't cost much, just a little respect.
52:38Be nice while you're here.
52:39It's the best thing, yeah.
52:46It's the best thing, yeah.
52:56The movie gets its punchline, and then the credits roll away.
53:02But real life keeps asking, what you're willing to say.
53:08So be nice.
53:09If you call me yourself good, hold the door.
53:12Say you please, treat folks like you should.
53:15It doesn't cost much, just a little respect.
53:29You don't always have to be nice, but I expect you to be good for that movie will suffice.
53:36But for you on earth, I declare, be nice.
53:39If you claim goodness, cost nothing to share a smile.
53:44Be nice while you're here, that's the best thing, yeah.
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