00:00Why I think it's nice to find your people it's also because I
00:05Feel the most myself. I feel like I don't really have to prove or perform
00:12In a way that would
00:15Make me not feel true to myself
00:18And you feel more seen I guess when you're mirrored by someone that understands your experience
00:22With women or with with queer people or with like people that have like the same sort of references
00:28You just don't have to
00:31Explain yourself that much
00:33You're just understood. Yeah, I think and that can obviously happen with anyone
00:37But I think it's a shortcut to like get the straight man. I'm totally
00:42I mean, I always worked with straight men and yeah, and that was a learning curve. Yeah, and it was
00:49also something that
00:53Challenged you know me and my closest collaborators also
00:56But I think what's cool about me and Klaus is that we kind of found our way through it and
01:00that's like because he's such an amazing person
01:03Yeah, I'm also like 20 years younger than him. So
01:08Also the age difference I was a little sister and I had to really prove myself