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After decades in investment banking, John C. Adams is taking on a very different kind of challenge: turning one of philosophy’s most famous works into a modern-day thriller novel. In The Third Phase, Adams draws inspiration from Plato’s Republic and Augustine’s Confessions, wrapping philosophical and spiritual questions inside a globe-spanning story filled with spies, assassins, kidnappings, tank battles and disrupted constitutional conventions. The idea came from his three grown daughters, who encouraged him to approach Plato the same way he once approached big ideas as a youth pastor — translating them into stories that younger audiences could understand. “Do what you used to do in the youth group, Dad,” he recalls them telling him. At the center of the novel is a world-famous soccer player from Bolivia who joins a multicultural team determined to use his influence — and technology — to change the way society works. Their efforts quickly put them at odds with powerful political and institutional forces. But Adams says the action is only one layer of the story. The book explores political polarization and the influence of lobbying, while digging deeper into the philosophical tension between Platonism and nihilism. Its most important theme, he says, is ultimately spiritual. “My book is really Augustine’s answers to Plato’s questions,” Adams explains. “It’s a glimpse of how the world could be and a view of the kind of people we need to be in our heart and soul to bring that world about.”The Third Phase is available on Amazon, as an audiobook and through most bookstores. Readers can also visit TheThirdPhaseNovel.com to download a free 130-page companion guide featuring book-club questions and a deeper look at the novel’s symbolism and its connections to Plato and Augustine.
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00:04Hi I'm John Adams, author of The Third Phase. I spent decades as an investment
00:10banker but that was really my day job. My passion was being a youth pastor at our
00:15church as my five children were growing up. What I used to do is read the great
00:20books and try to come up with stories and games and puzzles to translate that
00:24into things teenagers could understand. So a couple of years ago I was having
00:28dinner with my three daughters now grown and they suggested that I write a book
00:32about Plato's Republic which they knew was my favorite book and try to make it
00:36like a modern-day action movie and they said do what you used to do in the youth
00:39group dad. So I was intrigued by that and my wife is a professional artist and in
00:43fact there's a painting she did of me and so I kind of thought well this is my
00:47way of entering the art world so I worked hard and I wrote this book over the last
00:51two years. I created a team of people from around the world completely
00:54multi-ethnic and multicultural. The star is a soccer player from Bolivia who has
00:59world fame and they leverage off his fame to try to fix the world. As you can
01:03imagine they run into a lot of angst from the power brokers that be in various
01:08locations so they face spies and assassins and kidnapping and tank battles
01:12and and constitutional conventions that get disrupted and so there's a lot of
01:17action but like Plato's Republic there's an underlying message both
01:22politically and philosophically. The the political message I think and this
01:26really resonates in America is that our political parties are ever more polar
01:32ever stronger and when you overlay the lobbying complex that we have they just
01:38have a vice grip on our our country and so what this group tries to do is use
01:43technology to try to make us more democratic and and break the back of that
01:49vice grip that the the politicians and the and the lobbying complex have over us.
01:54But the more important parts of the book as with Plato's Republic are the
01:57philosophical and the spiritual and there's really been a millennia-long battle
02:02between Platonism and Nihilism and that plays out in the book as well and
02:06frankly that plays out in our newspapers every day. But the most important
02:10message of the book is the spiritual one. The book is as much a modern remake of
02:14Augustine's Confessions as it is Plato's Republic. My book is really Augustine's
02:19answers to Plato's questions and and so it's a glimpse of how the world could be
02:24and a view of the kind of people we need to be in our heart and soul to bring that
02:31world about. The book is available on Amazon there's an audio version of
02:36course it's available at most bookstores and I would encourage everybody to go to
02:40my website which is the third phase novel dot com because there's a companion
02:46guide that's a free download and it's quite extensive it's a hundred and thirty
02:49pages the first part our standard book club open-ended questions but the bulk of
02:55it is essentially a textbook to help the reader go through the underlying
03:01symbolism and the layers of meaning in the book and also how they how the book
03:07interacts with with Plato and Augustine. Thank you.

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