اروپا امروز: دانشجویان فرانسوی در تصرف دوباره باستیل، ترامپ حاضر به کمک به اوکراین نیست

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اروپا امروز: دانشجویان فرانسوی در تصرف دوباره باستیل، ترامپ حاضر به کمک به اوکراین نیست  ژان لوک ملانشون می‌گوید دانشجویان فرانسوی پس از تجمع بزرگ پاریس «باستیل را پس گرفتند». زلنسکی آمریکا را به «بی‌میلی» در کمک به اوکراین متهم می‌کند و هلن کلارک روی مواد معدنی حیاتی تمرکز دارد، در حالی که ریما حسن با پیامدهای جنجال پرچم‌ها روبه‌روست.  لب بیشتر : http://parsi.euronews.com/2026/10/09/europe-today-french-students-retake-bastille-trump-unwilling-to-help-ukraine  مشترک شوید: یورونیوز به یازده زبان دیگر در دسترس شماست

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00:14Good morning, it is Friday the 9th of October. I'm Maeve McMahan and this is Europe Today,

00:21your daily dose of European news and analysis live here on Euronews.

00:26Coming up, French bonds hit historic lows. Market panic is gripping Paris as the country's

00:32debt turmoil reaches levels not seen in decades. The news could have chilling implications for

00:39the wider Eurozone economy just as finance ministers were gathering in Luxembourg. Meanwhile,

00:44the European Court of Auditors warns that total EU debt could hit a staggering €1 trillion by

00:502027. Billions are being wasted on interest payments and spending mistakes, leaving Brussels

00:55with a massive cash crunch just as leaders try to fund defence and Ukraine. And speaking of Ukraine

01:02horror in the east of the country with at least 33 people killed after a Russian bomb hit two buses

01:08in the frontline city of Kramatorsk. Emergency services report dozens more injured in an attack

01:14President Zelensky has called a deliberate targeting of civilian life. But first,

01:19the Bastille has been retaken. The words of French left leader Jean-Luc Mélenchon after days of high

01:25school goers and student protests culminated in a mass gathering around the famous Place de la Bastille

01:31in Paris. For more on these strikes that look like they're here to stay, we can bring in now the

01:36French

01:36MEP Emma Ravovich from the Socialist Party. Good morning, Emma. Thank you so much for joining us here

01:41live on Europe today. So, Luc Mélenchon saying the Bastille has been retaken. Do you endorse this

01:47revolutionary talk? I'm not going to speak about Jean-Luc Mélenchon. I think that what we are going to

01:52speak about and what is really important right now is the situation of high schoolers in France.

01:58I myself actually 15 years ago I was also protesting and what is completely striking for all of us here

02:06is

02:06how the situation hasn't changed for the youth. So, why is it why has there been such a little

02:12investment in this sector? What are the main issues here? Well, I will say that the main issue is the

02:17government who actually isn't doing anything for the youth, who isn't respecting the young people,

02:23especially when they are coming from, I would say, poorer neighborhoods or departments of the country.

02:30When we are, we are literally all over seeing high schools in shambles in France, you know,

02:36ceiling falling down, rats in school, lunches being basically not moment for quality time because,

02:43well, basically they are sometimes rats or insects in food. This is happening right now in France,

02:49which is a rich country, and this means that there is disrespect for the young people.

02:54But the protests, of course, have been hijacked by violence. They're the images that are being

02:58captured, of course, on the front pages of all the newspapers across Europe. How can CAM return to

03:02the streets of France here? Well, to me, honestly, there is

03:08something really good in protesting, and I really respect that. The problem right now is that we are

03:14seeing violence. Violence from, first of all, from the police side. The minister of the interior minister

03:21actually asked that the police shows no restraint when it was basically framing or organizing these

03:29mobilizations. And on the other side, of course, there are individuals who are deciding to basically

03:37profit this mobilization to make violence movements. But I want to say that this is not what is happening

03:44in the country. Violence is not the general thing. What is happening is protesting, respectful one. We

03:50even see singing everywhere in the country. The youth are actually mobilizing quite well.

03:56And what is the government doing? Are they just closing their eyes and hoping it will go away and

04:00then suddenly it will be Halloween holidays? Well, you said it. I feel like it is that way,

04:05yes. And to be honest, I don't understand. I don't understand what we are doing. I feel like,

04:11you know, they are just looking the other way, hoping that the holiday will come soon and basically

04:17that the kids will not longer be in the streets. I feel like they are completely irresponsible.

04:23And just one final question. Meanwhile, while all this is happening, we've seen France heading

04:27towards a potential debt crisis. How could that impact France and, of course, the wider Eurozone?

04:32The debt also is something that shows just basically how Macron was completely irresponsible.

04:39Of course, in Europe, we all had the situation during COVID taking really important choices and

04:46obviously increasing the debt of our countries. But today, we also see a government that decided

04:52month after month, years after years to give gifts, basically fiscal gifts to the richest and basically

05:00deciding now is saying now that it is a problem and that the poor people, for example, in retirement,

05:05should do big choices. And of course, we have the AI bubble on the market, who is basically,

05:12well, I would say, disrupting the entire debt system and the bonds for France, of course, but

05:18for a lot of countries in Europe today. And I feel like, you know, we should say stop,

05:24that this is not enough and we should not let that go.

05:27Okay. Emma Ravovich, thank you so much for joining us this morning. You're, of course,

05:30very critical of the French government. We'll soon bring on a voice from there to have

05:33their view as well. But now moving on in the context of instability in the Gulf,

05:38growing pressure on global energy security and the scramble for critical raw materials. Over 1,000

05:44representatives from over 55 countries have gathered in Brussels for talks. Among them is the

05:49former New Zealand Prime Minister, Helen Clark, who joins us now in the studio. Welcome.

05:53So welcome to Brussels. Just tell us more about what brings you here.

05:56It is the Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative Global Conference. It happens

06:01once every three years and we bring the whole family that supports this initiative together. That's

06:07governments both supporting and countries implementing the EITI best practice, good governance standard.

06:14We also have company members from across the extractives and civil society members from around

06:19the world. That all sounds very clunky and kind of distant to our viewers. What are you actually

06:23trying to achieve here?

06:24So it was set up basically to fight corruption in the extractive industries, oil, gas, minerals.

06:31Everyone will remember blood diamonds in Sierra Leone. You remember the civil war in Nigeria over

06:37oil. There's been a lot of corruption traditionally around these sectors in many countries. This initiative

06:44was set up to drive it out and to have countries change their laws and policies and the way they

06:50governed these sectors to get better results for people.

06:54And while you're here, of course, our trade commissioner is over in Beijing. So everyone

06:57in Brussels is talking about China and the very tense EU-China relations. We've also seen

07:02Friedrich Merz and Emmanuel Macron calling for perhaps the use of a big bazooka. What would be your

07:07advice here for Europeans?

07:09When I was New Zealand Prime Minister, we became the first Western country to sign a free trade

07:14agreement with China. And I have to say, it underpinned New Zealand's prosperity for a long

07:21time. Now, it's very important to keep diverse markets, of course, but China isn't going anywhere.

07:26China is a fact of life. Countries have to engage with China. The European Commission has to engage with

07:32China. It is a power in the world. It is a huge economy. And we have to work out how

07:40we engage and

07:40how we interact.

07:41And do you think they'll manage and save off a trade war?

07:45Well, do you want another trade war? You know, there's American trade war. Do you want a China

07:49trade war? Look, we need people talking. I am a great fan of Prime Minister Mark Carney of Canada,

07:55who's very pragmatic. His country was quite estranged from China over a number of things. He's gone there.

08:01He's talking. He's engaging. He's engaging with Europe, too. We need more pragmatic leaders who

08:07can look at how we engage around our common interests.

08:10Well, he certainly is engaging in Europe, so much so that he was in Strasbourg recently delivering a

08:13speech. The idea of an associate membership for Canada was even floated. Is that something that

08:18New Zealand would also like to explore?

08:20I'm very interested in that agreement, because I recall having a dinner with a former chair of the

08:26Commission many years ago when I was PM and came to Brussels. And he said, you know,

08:31there's one country that meets every single criterion for membership of the EU, except

08:36geography. That's New Zealand. So the association agreement could be very interesting to New Zealand.

08:42So what would it look like?

08:43Well, if it gave access to a common market, wouldn't that be very interesting for a distant

08:49trade country like New Zealand?

08:51And what about defence? Because that's obviously the big topic here.

08:54Well, you see, the issue is how much is Europe, the European Union, going to do defence vis-a-vis

09:01NATO?

09:01We are not obviously in NATO. We're a very long way away. But we should be in the conversation

09:07about what an association agreement means.

09:09And just one final comment. Brexit is back on the political agenda. We've had UK ministers in

09:14Strasbourg this week and also participating in meetings in Ireland who have the EU presidency now.

09:19What would your view here be?

09:21This is an incredibly difficult political issue in Europe, in the United Kingdom. And what the

09:27Prime Minister won't want to do is fire up Nigel Farage and the anti-Brexit team again. But there's no

09:33doubt, in my view, that Britain getting closer to the single market again would be good for the British

09:39economy and the British people.

09:40OK, Helen Clark, thank you so much for joining us here this morning on Europe Today. And best of

09:44look for your talks today in Brussels. Well now, moving on to Ukraine, where Volodymyr

09:49Selensky has criticised US, quote, unwillingness to help his country ahead of new peace talks in

09:55Miami today. The talks come as Russia steps up deadly airstrikes against Ukraine, including

10:00one at a bus stop yesterday that killed over 33 civilians and injured dozens. For more,

10:06we can go straight over to Kyiv now and speak to Yulia Klimenko, a Ukrainian member of Parliament.

10:10Good morning, Yulia. Thank you so much for joining us. We've seen now Russia using a glide bomb

10:15to target regular bus stops. Was this a direct attack on civilians?

10:21Hello from Kyiv. Thank you for hosting me. Yes, it was a deliberate and very purpose,

10:28purpose attack on civilians. Only yesterday, Russia killed the 450 injured, badly injured,

10:38or killed 450 people around Ukraine. It's civilian people. I'm not talking about the army. So actually,

10:46it's a deliberate fight and genocide against civilians, because they cannot achieve anything

10:53on the front line. Moreover, for past three weeks, we de-occupied our army, they occupied more than 150

11:01kilometers. So now it looks like the only war Russia can do with kids and women inside the country.

11:09So that's what they are doing, deliberately targeting. And they targeted, unfortunately,

11:14two buses killed more than 33 people yesterday by one glide bomb and injured more than 60 people in the

11:22buses. So I think it's purposely war crimes done by Putin, who already said to his army and generals that

11:31they can do whatever they want with the civilians. So what's your plan now? How is Ukraine responding

11:35to these kinds of attacks? So our plan is very simple. We are we are increasing our capacity on

11:42air defense. And in a barrel, we're talking to the to the our US and European colleagues and partners

11:51to proceed with the peace talks. I think this is this will be two parallel tracks from one side,

11:57reinforcing army from other side to start to restart. Again, peace talk. Let's see. We'll have it.

12:05Well, you mentioned peace talks. All eyes on Miami today on those talks led by Jared Kushner and Steve

12:10Whitcoff. They'll be discussing, quote, new ideas. But have you any expectations here?

12:16I think there is no new idea with Putin. He either stopped the war or or proceed with war. So

12:23I think the

12:24only person who can decide to stop the war is Putin and Kushner and Whitcoff have to put all

12:32possible pressure on Putin to stop the war. That's the only way how we can do it.

12:38And how is the Ukrainian economy keeping afloat? What is your message as well to European investors

12:42waiting for the war to end?

12:45Actually, European economy can help Ukrainian economy with lanes of solidarity, with export,

12:53with more contracts, with more joint ventures, et cetera, et cetera. We have a very booming,

12:59I would say. It's very strange to say, but it's booming on the western part of Ukraine and many

13:05companies from eastern and southern part of Ukraine relocating to the western part. And there already

13:10European investors can do investor investments and can cooperate with Ukrainian companies and

13:16businesses in this way to help the Ukrainians also on economic side.

13:22Okay. Yulia Klimenko, Ukrainian MP speaking to us from Kyiv. Thank you so much for joining us this

13:27morning. Now we can move on as the French MEP of Palestinian origin, Rima Hassan, is facing an

13:33investigation after the Israeli and European Union flags were allegedly thrown to the floor at a

13:39commemoration for the 2023 Hamas attacks that set off the Gaza war that took place this week in

13:44Strasbourg. Our French correspondent, Maya de la Boum, actually spoke to her yesterday in Strasbourg

13:49and joins us now for an update. What does she have to say?

13:52So let's first remind our viewers of the facts. Rima Hassan is a French MEP from the left-wing

13:59France unbound. And she is primarily seen in France as a fierce supporter of the Palestinian

14:05cause, and that is also what made her extremely controversial in France. So to remind the facts,

14:12on Monday she was accused of removing an Israeli flag from an exhibit commemorating the October 7th

14:20attacks. So she has since then confirmed that she had removed this flag, but she also argued that it was

14:28not an act of violence, and it was primarily directed against the Israeli government and not

14:34the victims. However, we spoke to Joshua Zarca, and you spoke to him, the Israeli ambassador to Paris,

14:42and he had very strong comments to make, very harsh comments. She called her a terrible person. We see it

14:49on

14:49screen now, he told Euronews. She openly supports Hamas. This is a terrible person. Our embassy and

14:56the President of the European Parliament are in dialogue with the purpose of making sure that Mrs.

15:02Rima Hassan faces the charges she needs to face. So as you said, Maeve, I interviewed Rima Hassan yesterday,

15:10and she also had very strong comments to make and a strong reaction to make to the Israeli ambassador.

15:17Let's take a listen.

15:23First of all, it is worth remembering that the Israeli ambassador acts as a spokesperson for the Israeli

15:29authorities. This is therefore the official line of the Israeli authorities. I do not therefore expect

15:34much that is relevant, or even, I would say, intelligent, from an Israeli ambassador at this

15:40stage, given the current situation. On the issue of the conflict spilling over, Mr. Zarca seems to be

15:45unaware of the European Parliament's agenda. We hold debates, discussions and negotiations on texts

15:50relating to the situation in the region on a very regular basis, almost every month in plenary. On the

15:56issues of actions, specifically the act of taking down an Israeli flag, which has been highlighted,

16:01I maintain that I am absolutely opposed to the Israeli embassy being invited into the European

16:06Parliament, in the same way that the Russian embassy has absolutely no authorization to come and organize

16:12or co-organize events that a Russian ambassador cannot come and address Parliament, and that there

16:17is no platform for them to do so. Were you able to check the footage, the CCTV footage,

16:27of what happened on Monday? I saw them this morning with the Speaker of Parliament. I was received this

16:33morning by the Speaker of Parliament. Listen, it's very clear. I even asked for these images to be

16:37made available to the press so that you could see them for yourselves. You can see me, rather softly,

16:43taking the Israeli flag down from the stand on which it was mounted. And a few seconds later,

16:47the sand actually tips over because it was unbalanced. And that is how the European flag ended up falling.

16:53But none of the flags were trampled on, thrown about or damaged. And this was confirmed by the

16:57footage I reviewed this morning in her presence. Right. But looking back, wouldn't it be wiser to

17:04use words rather than this type of action to express a disagreement?

17:12What I have observed is that on all other issues, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Sudan, all the

17:18issues I've worked on, we have had no difficulty in obtaining texts. Indeed, we have even secured

17:23majorities to pass resolutions effectively condemned what was happening in this or that region of the

17:28world. The only issue is that it is literally censored. And I mean censored because we have

17:33debates, but no texts, no meaningful action is the Palestinian question. So sometimes, you know,

17:39a political mandate can be accompanied by an activist gesture, a symbolic gesture.

17:44I'd like to pick up on that precisely because we know that you're a very strong advocate for the

17:50Palestinian cause. We've seen it many times and you've demonstrated it on Monday. But how exactly do

17:56you ensure that this advocacy does not in fact end up placing the burden of responsibility for the

18:04Israeli government's actions on French Jews?

18:13Well, you just have to listen to me. I never talk, if you like, about individual responsibility on

18:19anyone's part. My political target is the state of Israel. And it is the fact that our union of states,

18:25the European Union, our institutions and our leaders are failing to take their share of responsibility

18:30to ensure that international law is upheld. The commemoration of the victims of the 7th of October

18:35is a noble cause. I took part in it myself. In the parliament, we paid tribute to these families

18:40of the hostages whom we welcomed during a plenary session. If you like, I am always present at all

18:45official commemorations. It is simply that these commemorations, or at least this particular event,

18:51was an unofficial event organized by the European Parliament in partnership with the Israeli embassy

18:56and the AGC organization, which has been singled out in NGO reports for promoting settlement activity.

19:03This point is entirely open to question. In other words, commemorating the victims of 7 October is one

19:09thing, but not in partnership with the Israeli government, not in partnership with the Israeli authorities.

19:18Well, that brings this edition of Europe Today to an end. For news on the winner of this year's Nobel

19:25Peace Prize,

19:26stay tuned and see you soon on your own news.

19:57Thank you so much for joining us.

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