00:10Pumasok at lumabas sa mga account ni Vice President Duterte at kanyang asawa na si Atty. Carpio.
00:19Tama po. 424179536.1
00:21And this covers only the period 2022 to 2025.
00:25Tama po, Your Honor.
00:29Sir, again, I try to bring first things in its absurd possibility to find out and test a hypothesis.
00:40I-add ko po yung Sal N ng ikalawang Pangulo mula 2022, 23, 24, at 25.
00:47I-add.
00:48Hindi naman dapat in-add yun, di ba?
00:50Kasi iba-ibang tao naman yun eh.
00:52At kasama na yung deklarasyon na huli doon sa unang deklarasyon.
00:56It totaled 336 million and change.
01:02Hindi pa rin umabot ng 424.
01:06Meaning to say, on the assumption na walang ginastos,
01:11walang ginastos mula sa lahat ng assets nila at lahat na dineposito sa banko,
01:18hindi pa rin naabot sa ganito kalaking halaga.
01:22Ang, sa palagay at pananaw nyo, ulitin ko, in the realm of possibilities,
01:26what would explain this huge amount?
01:31Posible ba yung in and out?
01:35Hindi ko po masagot.
01:37Hindi ko po nakita yung sa Sal N, pero kung base lang po doon sa premise na binigay nyo po.
01:41Based on the premise that I give, because it's an accurate depiction of the Sal N for those 4 years.
01:47So, yung po kasing transaction as reported to us,
01:51they happened across the years, across the entire year po, or years po.
01:56So, hindi po siya...
01:574 years.
01:58I mean, ibig ko po sabihin, sa isang taon, yung transaction po na ito,
02:02hindi naman po ginawa lang ng isang beses,
02:04kundi spread din po, as reported to us po.
02:08So, kung...
02:10Ang pagkakaintindi ko po sa Sal N kasi yung ending po, yun sa December po.
02:16So, kung yung...
02:19Yung asset po kasi, hindi naman po siya yung transaction.
02:23Hindi nga, dapat bilang yun, di ba? Pero binilang ko na nga eh.
02:27Opo, kaya...
02:30Hindi ko po...
02:32Medyo hindi ko po ma...
02:34So, hindi nyo po kayang paliwanag.
02:35You cannot explain...
02:37Hindi ko po maipaliwanag.
02:38You cannot explain how it reached 424 million.
02:43Assuming the presumption of this representation is correct with respect to her Sal N.
02:50Opo, hindi ko po maipaliwanag po yun. Apologies po.
02:54Doon sa 4.4 billion, yun din ang katanungan ko.
02:58Yung 4.4 billion covering the period 2007 to 2025.
03:05Again, I bring it to its absurd point.
03:08We tried to add to all of the amounts in the combined Sal N's for those covered period of 2007
03:14to 2025.
03:17It totaled only 840 million.
03:23Again, as you said earlier, Attorney Ronel, kasaban na nga dyan yung assets, di ba?
03:26Hindi na nga yung sa deposito lang sa banko.
03:28Hindi nga lang yung cash eh.
03:31So, you would need 5x at least, 5 times of the combined Sal N from 2007 to 2025
03:38to be able to explain the huge amount of 4.4 billion in transactions.
03:45In the realm of possibilities, again, can you explain how it could reach that amount
03:51knowing that the highest Sal N in 2025 was at 98 million and the lowest Sal N in 2007 was
03:59at 7 million?
04:02Can you explain it, sir?
04:04I am unable to explain or answer that, Your Honor.
04:07Just based on the records, Your Honor.
04:10Alam ko po, but in the realm of possibilities, is there a possible explanation that can come to your mind
04:16as to how this can be?
04:20If you know.
04:21No, you're on top of my head.
04:23Medyo nahihirapan din po ako.
04:26So, hindi nyo rin po kayang paliwanan kung bakit umabot ng ganito ka 4.4 billion yung amount.
04:34Based on the data I relate to you on the Sal N.
04:39Yun po, hindi ko po masagot po, Your Honor.
04:43Ang sweldo po ng ikalawang Pangulo, kada buwan ay 350,000.
04:48From 2022 to 2025,
04:54So, balit, ayon sa datos nyo, dumaan sa accounts nilang mag-asawa,
04:58sweldo lang po yung pinagbabasiyan ko.
04:59Lilitan ko naman, again, to the opposite absurd.
05:02To the opposite absurd point.
05:06Kaya nyo bang ipaliwanag kung paano pa rin nakarating ng 424 million
05:12ang kabuhang transaksyon sa loob ng 2022 to 2025.
05:18Kung ang sweldo po,
05:20indeklaradong kita o income,
05:22base sa sweldo lamang,
05:24ay 350,000.
05:27Apologies po, Your Honor.
05:28I cannot explain.
05:29You cannot explain it as well?
05:30Yes, Your Honor.
05:42You cannot explain it as well.
