00:00Amounts? Pwede namang number of CTRs?
00:03Pwede po.
00:03Pwede po.
00:04Now, pero dahil tinotal niyo yung mga figures, mas malaki tuloy tingnan. Tama?
00:08Argumentative and speculative, Your Honor.
00:11In your letter to Representative Luistro dated October 1, 2026, you attached tabular summaries containing confidential data and information on
00:23VP Sara and attorney months. Do you confirm this?
00:26That is correct, Your Honor.
00:27And these tabular summaries indicated aggregate amounts.
00:32That is correct, Your Honor.
00:34Para lang po madaling maintindihan ng publiko, pag sinabing aggregate amounts, attorney Buenaventura, tinotal niyo na po yung mga figures
00:42per category. Tama?
00:45Tama po.
00:46Aggregate.
00:46Yung po yung nasa request.
00:47Tapos may grand total din. Tama?
00:49Tama po.
00:50Alright.
00:51Now, these aggregate amounts were hundreds of millions to billions. Correct?
00:55Tama po.
00:56Alright. Now, my question is this.
00:58Did the AMLC specifically authorize you to use the aggregate amounts in presenting confidential data and information on VP Sara
01:09and attorney months?
01:11No specific one, but Your Honor, we submitted again a memo to our council regarding this one, Your Honor.
01:18Now, did this Honorable Impeachment Court specifically direct you to use aggregate amounts or yung mga totals in presenting confidential
01:27data and information on VP Sara and attorney months?
01:32Your Honor, what we submitted is only based on the...
01:36We prepared this based on the letter of the...
01:39Let's get...
01:40Don't get ahead of yourself.
01:41I'm just asking if you receive a directive from the Senate Impeachment Court to use those aggregate amounts.
01:48No specific instruction on that, Your Honor.
01:51Now, in fact, there was no court subpoena for these tabular summaries containing aggregate amounts.
01:57Correct?
01:59We can say there is, Your Honor, based on our letter we indicated there that the last paragraph po, Your
02:06Honor, if I may read po, for the avoidance of doubt, the tabular summary is furnished solely in relation to
02:13the subpoenas Duchess Tecum dated July 21, 2026.
02:16You're not being responsive.
02:18I'm asking whether or not, for these tabular summaries, did the court issue a subpoena specifically for these?
02:25I answered this earlier, Your Honor.
02:28Specifically, no, Your Honor.
02:29No.
02:31Now, in other words, pwede nyo namang ibigay na lang yung number of inflow and outflow transactions without aggregating the
02:39figures involved.
02:40Correct?
02:42Pwede ba yun?
02:43Argumentative, Your Honor.
02:45Witness may answer.
02:46He can answer.
02:47Pwede ba.
02:48Attorney may.
02:48Na hindi aggregated amounts?
02:51Pwede namang number of CTRs?
02:53Pwede po.
02:53Pwede.
02:54Pwede po.
02:54Now, pero dahil tinotal nyo yung mga figures, mas malaki tuloy tingnan.
02:58Tama?
02:59Argumentative and speculative, Your Honor.
03:01You're already there, Counsel.
03:03Move on.
03:03Move on to your next point, Counsel.
03:04Now, at any rate, the idea of aggregate amounts only appeared in Representative Luistro's request letter dated September 29, 2026.
03:16Correct?
03:16Already asked and answered, Your Honor.
03:18Tama po.
03:19Tama po.
03:19You're right.
03:19Witness may answer.
03:21Witness can answer.
03:21Aggregated amounts.
03:23Yes, po.
03:23Tama po.
03:24In other words, it was only Representative Luistro who requested to indicate the aggregate amounts in presenting confidential data and
03:32information of BP Sara and Attorney Mance.
03:35Correct?
03:35Already asked and answered, Your Honor.
03:38As indicated in the…
03:40Keep it a notch, a bit lower, Attorney Mark.
03:44No sobrat sa bathroom.
03:46Witness may answer.
03:47As in…
03:48Based on our reply, yes, Your Honor.
03:51But again, as indicated in our letter, we are furnishing this solely in relation to the subpoena to Chess Tech
03:58Home dated July 21, 2026, Your Honor.
04:02Yeah.
04:02At any rate, you obliged to Representative Luistro's request and provided tabular summaries with aggregate amounts.
04:09Correct?
04:11Binigay niyo po yun.
04:12Yes, we provided.
04:13We binigay po.
04:14Yes, Your Honor.
04:15All right.
04:15Now, part of that request is to provide aggregate amounts of covert transaction reports and…
04:21or CTRs and suspicious transaction reports or STRs.
04:25Correct?
04:25Tama po.
04:26All right.
04:27All right.
04:27All right.
04:29All right.
04:30All right.
04:31All right.
04:31All right.
04:37All right.
04:38All right.
04:39All right.
04:39All right.
