00:00Steinbeck wanted to tell a generational story about sons and fathers and passing on the sins
00:07of the father from generation to generation. What was really compelling to me was this idea
00:13of someone really feeling and knowing that they have this badness, that they can't help,
00:20and their efforts to really try to contain that. What does that look like in the real world sense?
00:26Charles is kind of cast away to the farm to be with his choices, his thoughts, and his regret and
00:33shame.
00:34It's said that he didn't spend money really on anything other than making the farm better. He
00:40didn't spend money on himself. He never spent money on clothes. He didn't really even clean the house.
00:46It was always just putting the farm to work and working, working, working, and there was this
00:50idea of how it was almost self-punishment.
00:58I remember when I was first trying on the clothes, my shoes really hurt. They gave me shoes that were
01:04way too small. They weren't comfortable, and they bent, and they were not broken in at all. I just
01:10thought, okay, his shoes hurt. That makes sense, and he wouldn't go and try to get them fixed. He just
01:16deals with it. That's why he's kind of like wobbling around all over the farm. This moment in the series
01:21where Charles goes to write a letter to Adam, Garth Davis, our brilliant filmmaker, had this idea of
01:28actually having the younger versions of Charles and Adam in the room, off in the corner on the bed,
01:34interacting, doing their dialogue. I remember looking over my shoulder and seeing the younger versions of
01:40Charles and Adam, it kind of was this jarring emotional moment that pushed the action of wanting
01:47to go and begin to write this letter to his brother Adam, who he hadn't spoken with in years. Chris
01:54innately brings out all of the goodness, shockingly, in Charles. Adam, Chris's character, is good. I think
02:02Charles, in a way, really wants to harness that, or be around that. Because of this act of violence that
02:10Charles did against his brother, he wants to redeem that relationship. You know, if you're planning on
02:22staying, you're welcome to my mother's old room. Subsequently, when Florence's character comes in,
02:28it's just the mirror image of who Charles actually is. And Charles is able to recognize that in Kathy.
02:35I don't know what I've done to earn your distrust. Well, maybe kind just recognizes kind.
02:43He knows that that same badness that exists in him exists in her, and it brings it out of him.
02:50And it's
02:51part of the reason why he doesn't want her around. I don't want her living in my house. Your house?
02:56Our house.
02:58Our house.
