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00:00the paperwork done and then but i wouldn't i wouldn't start making payments probably until
00:05we get the the house all all fixed up and so we can move in would that work for you
00:15uh the only thing i'd worry about is if if you you know it's got to cut started and you're
00:20like
00:20halfway in the middle or something like that yeah but we you know that's uh-huh
00:30okay but that's uh but if uh yeah right now here too i was having a i was i was
00:40i kind of wanted to
00:41keep the house but i was selling it too because i just uh i had to come up with some
00:45payments for my
00:46uh savings loan so i that would kind of help me if you want to if you want to just
00:51let me keep
00:52renting it to him and give me uh 400 a month or something like that um uh while you're working
01:01on it if you if you want to maybe uh but you you want to start working on it and
01:08then uh and then
01:10move in and start making payments yeah because the thing of the thing on it is you know i we're
01:15renting
01:16and i don't want to be making payments on that right and this right and then uh um you know
01:21getting all that all that done but uh what do you think
01:33so that's the lowest you can go and the 101 that's the lowest you could go
01:40i don't i could like if you wanted if you wanted to let me have like an option on that
01:46back thing i
01:46could uh i could uh go less because because i like i said i was kind of interested in using
01:52that or you
01:52could just maybe at a later time let me you know use it for 150 month or something like that
01:59yeah the
02:00like i said the only thing is you know we were looking at that because one of our daughters getting
02:05old enough right to so she can live on that okay we we are we're big kind of like a
02:14big company and
02:14that's you know that's why we it's taking us this long too because we want to get make sure that
02:20we
02:20can remodel it before we go in there okay yeah um wait you know i could i could wait a
02:26while if you
02:26want to let him stay here or whatever while while you're doing it or you know um the only thing
02:33is
02:33you know and then stay on the other one yeah or wherever you want them yeah if you can stay
02:38on the
02:38other one i want to do something right here but um it would help me out if you started paying
02:43sooner
02:43but if if if that's if that's difficult for you i could uh i could wait till you uh want
02:49to move in
02:49or whatever too that'd be fine yeah what happened is that boys we're gonna be making a payment over
02:55there and a payment here and the payment of the bank because we're gonna have to get a loan to
02:59remodel
03:00okay with this that's why we gotta go to the bank and ask for a loan to do okay you
03:06know we wanna
03:07for the outside you can't really change anything but but you can you can do stuff to clean it up
03:12if you want to if you want to do some kind of change then that needs a permission yeah because
03:17this is the uh historic house yeah so what about the windows you can change the windows you can
03:25they have to look the same uh or you you have to get permission for changing the windows
03:33if they if they look the same yeah or similar then they won't give you a problem yeah because
03:38they got new ones that you can actually stick them to the old frame
03:49but um okay so you you're going to go back today he said that was my plan
03:55here like for example he might be able to help you out here too because he i mean if he
04:02um if
04:02he can let us in uh uh yeah to kind of uh if i can go out there uh-huh
04:08because you're going back today
04:13i think we did go once we did go after yeah and you you thought you could uh yeah do
04:19it
04:19did go after i don't have the ladder and i can't push my pull myself out all the way up
04:24yeah it was
04:26me and chelsea i think i went out there you want me to look around in the garage some more
04:33i thought
04:33i had left the ladder here but maybe not
04:57so
04:58so
05:18It's okay.
05:21Mm-hmm. Okay.
05:35Let's go.
06:06if you want to uh you want to fix it up or something we could see what the if the
06:12price
06:12changes or something between now and then if you wanted to do that or if you wanted to fix it
06:18in
06:18now we could just say that's the number whatever but you know maybe i could go down
06:25to 99 or something if you want 999 99 99 99 cents
06:43well i have to um before we start you know we before uh what i want to do is um
06:50take maybe like a saturday
06:53um uh we decided we're uh well i want to take a saturday and then kind of come and go
07:00out there
07:00and look you know walk around because i know that the the shingles up there are uh there's a lot
07:05of
07:05work out there uh-huh so i need to find i need to know uh how much that is going
07:10to cause me to fix
07:11that you know and um i i kind of know the flooring and all that but and uh the electricity
07:17out here
07:17uh is that a new new electricity i mean yeah it's all it's all been redone they did it for
07:22the um
07:23uh for the catholic women's shelter they they they redid all the electricity and a lot of the plumbing
07:29okay where is the uh the uh electrical box back
07:36so the electricity is up to code then yeah
07:39yeah well everything's up to code yeah they they inspected it when i got it
07:50thank you
07:56and then they uh so then they wired the uh solar in here too you can just pull this yeah
08:02okay that's pretty yeah okay this yeah this one is uh i think i got 150 amp that this one
08:10just turns
08:10on this this over here okay and this makes more electricity than he uses right now so okay so the
08:18electricity also when once we get the house that that uh that goes to us right yeah okay okay okay
08:26um okay i think i paid six thousand for that or something but most of it is just uh paying
08:33the
08:33people to install it or something okay okay and that is just the uh phone but nobody uses phone
08:40anymore so all those lines are gonna go out they use it for internet too i think yeah i think
08:46i had
08:46internet on well if you get cable or this you get you get you get it through them too okay
08:53okay okay um
09:00okay i'll go i'll i'll um i'll talk it up we'll talk it over with my wife see you know
09:06and then
09:07because i wanna i wanna make sure that uh the whole family's in in and then and then uh um
09:13i'll give you
09:14a call um well you you wouldn't be uh did you want to go get a ladder now or something
09:20where'd you get
09:20a ladder at your house or um yeah but uh i i we have some other things to do that's
09:24why i got that
09:25and i didn't think you would i knew you were going to go back but i thought you you had
09:29a ladder there
09:29me too let me see if i can jump up there without getting hurt you might have something else like
09:37a
09:37ladder i guess it's pretty high to get up there yeah i thought i had a ladder somewhere i don't
09:47know
09:47where where it is maybe i brought them all
10:05i'll be nice a couple of these get the chair and that one yeah but i think there's some higher
10:09ones
10:09too we can i can i can push you up huh we can put a couple of cross bars what
10:18is this is this the same
10:20height yeah but he's got the the things that you can put across right here
10:36you want me to push you up i'll launch it we've got this big uh you could use this here
10:42too maybe
10:44you want to use this here this has got a ladder on it yeah you can lay that down huh
11:02will this fit through the hallway here should it should yeah
11:12we can stand it up if we stand it up here then it'll probably twist around there
11:17do you want to get through the doorways here here go your way okay
11:33there's a ladder right there can we get through the doorways here
11:38yes we can
11:42i don't know if we'll get through the other door
11:56we'll go through the other way or no maybe maybe we have we can go through this way here just
12:02go go
12:14back
12:24you know even like that i could probably get in there
12:29i could come up here here let me see here let me let me tilt this down here hold on
12:45here we have that chair
12:46you have that chair
12:47here
12:47Come here, get this in my phone away, please.
13:13Would it be better maybe if this was at the top?
13:15No, I guess not.
13:17Good job.
13:18Why don't you grab that chair?
13:20So you can start out with, huh?
13:21This thing is just my pants.
13:23Yeah, just take it off your pants.
13:26Nice try.
13:32You're using my bed.
13:37Dad, can I go off with you?
13:38No, I don't.
13:39That's a good hiding place.
13:43You can probably move that thing over a little more.
13:47I don't even know why they put this down.
13:51Hmm?
13:52For, I think, for the pipes for the other bathroom?
14:02Go up there.
14:03Oh my goodness.
14:04Be careful, babe.
14:06Can I go up my...
14:07Here, I'll catch you just...
14:09Can I go up?
14:10No.
14:11Thank you so much.
14:12I'm a good climber.
14:14I'm exit...
14:14I'm better than corny.
14:23Yeah, I'm gonna get up here.
14:25Can I get, like, the corner so when I wake up I hit my head?
14:29And I know...
14:30And I know it's...
14:30Amor, look at that.
14:31If you go up there, you won't go up there.
14:34No.
14:36Oh my goodness.
14:38Look at a monkey.
14:40Have you ever went up there?
14:42Just a...
14:43No, not very far down.
14:45I wanted to go take pictures up there.
14:46The lights really neat in there.
14:50Wow.
14:50Is there a room, Mom?
14:52We're gonna have to do it all.
14:54It's really on top.
14:55You can see the outside.
14:58What they used to do is very tall.
15:00Hmm?
15:01What they used to do is very tall.
15:03There was tall people back then.
15:04Well, and I think with a steep pitch, too, then the water runs off easier, too.
15:10You can see light come through there, but I've never had any, like, water leaks or anything.
15:16And I think that's just because it's such a steep pitch, nothing stays on top.
15:19It's when you've got a flat roof, and everything kind of collects.
15:25Water.
15:26But I think that usually, they, I guess, too, the things would kind of swell up, too, after
15:31they've got some water on them and cover over.
15:35Oh, wow.
15:39Can I go up there, Mommy?
15:45No, Papa.
15:46Who's gonna take you up?
15:48I am.
15:49No.
15:49I'm gonna be here.
15:49Super Monkey.
15:52Or Junior Monkey.
15:54I'm going up, Mommy.
15:55So why'd you move to Ajo?
15:57Huh?
15:57Why'd you move all the way to Ajo?
16:00See, I met a girl out there.
16:02Ohhhh.
16:04I was just going around mapping the roads, and I saw, I was doing a lot of things going through
16:08the checkpoints, and I saw they had, like, a couple back-to-back-to-back there.
16:11So I, I went back to go take some stuff and met somebody at the bar.
16:16Ohhhh.
16:17Then she lived over there?
16:18Uh huh.
16:20So you get retired already from here?
16:22Yeah, I retired here in, uh, June.
16:26Don't go.
16:29Also, you're burning off a few months over there.
16:32But I've been off for a couple years, so I've been there, I moved there in, uh, about
16:39a year and a half ago.
16:40What was it?
16:41Maybe, uh, I think April, I moved there.
16:44Stop it, both of you guys.
16:45April of the previous year.
16:48I think I had gone, gone through there maybe in December of 2000.
16:53Yeah.
16:5513 or 14 or 13?
17:01We're going to have to make stairs here to go up.
17:07Because they can be climbing like this.
17:08I know.
17:10I had to make a stairs.
17:23I was storing a lot of stuff up there.
17:25I don't know if I left anything up there or if I got it out.
17:29Oh, you store things up there?
17:32I had at one time just in this area here in the first bottom part.
17:36There was like, uh, this area here.
17:39Can you get this, uh, Robert?
17:41I'm talking to you.
17:48Am I going to catch you?
17:51You think you can?
17:52You going to jump?
17:53Yeah.
17:58Be careful, Daddy.
18:00Oh, baby.
18:03Okay.
18:03Don't fall.
18:04I'm gonna stay.
18:07Daddy, are you going to sleep?
18:09Daddy, are you going to sleep at the front door?
18:14I'm just going to sleep at the front door.
18:16Stay.
18:18Stay.
18:19Stay.
18:20Stay.
18:22Okay.
18:23Oh, is this okay?
18:36We're going to put like a stairway up there, right?
18:41They're just going to put a trampoline here and you can bounce up.
19:03Right here.
19:35Some say, what would it be difficult to do with it?
19:40.
19:41.
19:42.
19:42What do you think about it?
19:51What do you think about it?
19:53It's just a little bit.
19:58It's a little bit.
20:02It's a pencil, too.
20:14Okay.
20:15Let me ask the city if I need to get any special permit or anything for up there.
20:21Like I said, in Chicago, we didn't need to.
20:24Yeah, I don't think you need it from the historic society.
20:32You might need something from the city if you ask them to do that.
20:38Yeah.
20:39Or if it changes, it might change like the square footage or something.
20:44They might try to tax you more or something.
20:45Yeah, I think that's the only thing that they might want to do.
20:49But on the inside, I'm only also asking.
20:51It's okay with me if you do it.
20:53But it would probably be safer in the long run if you can permit or something.
20:59Yeah.
20:59And then the other thing is the figure of what you want to call it.
21:07The roof has to be, I have to foment.
21:11Well, first you have to put some plywood on it.
21:17Because it's just got the rafters on top.
21:20They've got some slacks.
21:22And then that's where they put the shovels.
21:26Yeah.
21:27They don't have that.
21:28Right now they have, yeah.
21:30Wood kinds, yeah.
21:32Those, that you might need to ask for permission.
21:35I saw like they did it over like this house next to mine.
21:39I was talking to the inspector.
21:42And he was saying, for that you need to get permission for, if you change the shingles.
21:50But he was saying if you use like these architectural ones, it should be okay.
21:54But I saw, what was it, the Quartermaster Depot.
21:59They had redone theirs.
22:01They took their shingles off and put just the plywood and just some normal shingles like those on them.
22:08So, so I'm guessing if, if they did it at the Quartermaster Depot, which is a historic place, they'd let
22:13you use that too.
22:14Yeah.
22:15So, you know, you could.
22:15Yeah.
22:16But, um, actually, that, that's, you know.
22:20So that is some of the things, um.
22:22But you would probably, probably need to get, uh, just ask for permission to, and, and show them the kind
22:29of shingles you're going to use.
22:31Um, let me, let me look at this.
22:34But this type of shingles that you have on right now, they're expensive.
22:36Yeah.
22:38And I think the insurance companies don't like those shingles either.
22:41I had a hard time just because it had those type.
22:44Yeah.
22:44That's, that's, uh, those are the, uh, wood shingles.
22:49The cedar shakes.
22:50Yeah.
22:51Yeah.
22:51Those, those are, they're kind of hard to get.
22:55One thing is they're hard to get.
22:56And the other thing is, you know, ones that get on fire.
22:59Yeah.
22:59Yeah.
23:00Uh-huh.
23:01But, uh, those, those right there would be nice.
23:06So, um, let me just do some research on that, Robert.
23:10Yeah.
23:10Cause I, I just, I don't wanna, I don't wanna buy it and then, you know, not be able to
23:15do what I wanna do.
23:16Yeah.
23:16And then I'll, I'll let you know.
23:17And then, um, you know, we, um, with the, with the rental of the, uh, again, you know, we will,
23:23we'll deal with that also.
23:24Mm-hmm.
23:25But, um, um, and then, you know, we'll see how much, you know, cause I gotta kinda have a, a
23:31rough estimate on how much it's gonna cost me to get it all fixed up the way I wanna get
23:35it fixed up.
23:36Mm-hmm.
23:36So we can get in here.
23:37And, uh, and then I gotta ask the bank for a, for a loan on that.
23:41Okay.
23:42You know, so, uh, and, uh, I know I was thinking about a home equity loan, but if the house
23:47is already value at a, or appraised at one-on-one, that's it.
23:54That's gonna kinda like, uh, I gotta talk to the bank, see what they say also.
23:58But I thought you can get the, you can get the equity for that, because that's from his name.
24:03No, but when, when, uh, when we do the contract with the, uh, with the, uh, uh.
24:09Oh, and the city, too, I think they had a plan, too, maybe you can get that from them for
24:13fixing up out, the outside.
24:15So, like, for the roof, you might be able to get a loan from the city.
24:18Uh, cause they, they, they, they, they paid for them to fix that house up for the outside and stuff.
24:25Yeah.
24:25And they got it from the city, and then you have to, um, uh, just pay the money back when
24:31the, uh, house is sold.
24:33Oh, so they give you the, they give you the money, but that, you have to pay it back when,
24:38when it's sold.
24:39When the house is not gonna be sold.
24:40You never pay it?
24:41Well, yeah, then it doesn't have to be paid back till it's sold, I think.
24:45Well, we can go with that, too.
24:46And that is just on the city, or?
24:48I think at, at the time, they were talking about that they had run out of money, but since this
24:52house sold, maybe they got some more money in the, in their bank that does it now?
24:56Is that, um, so how it's gonna work, for example, if we get it, we're gonna be paying his loan,
25:02but we're gonna do it all with the title company.
25:04Yes.
25:04That consider us, that, like, he was only 60-something, that's considered for us, uh, that, that equity doesn't matter
25:13if the, if the loan is not on our name?
25:16Well, he has to write, they have to, we have to have to write up with the title company, and
25:21they're gonna have to write it up, that he's selling us at, uh, uh, such a price, and then once
25:26the loan is paid off.
25:27So, I think the, the title, uh, the, the title is gonna be, is gonna be seen, not for what,
25:33what is owned on the house, but what we own the house.
25:36I think that's the way it's gonna work, but, you know, that is something that we can, that we can
25:40start talking about that, um, when we, uh, I gotta find out, uh, what we can do on the, on,
25:45on this house.
25:47We don't, you know, we don't wanna get in here, and then, uh, not, I mean, uh, it's doable, we
25:52can do it, we can do the, the attic.
25:54But, uh, you know, I think that's what they did on that one, didn't they?
25:58Or was that one an original two, two, uh, story house?
26:01I don't know, it looked like it was probably, I think it was the original two story.