00:00I think Macklemore is an absolute hero for what he did. I think real heroes are people who are out
00:04there, you know, every single day doing public service, saving people's lives and putting their
00:09lives in danger. I also recognize, though, that there was a huge reputational risk to what Macklemore
00:15did. But then I think about Paloma Faith, who's also been someone who's been very vocal on this.
00:20And every time she's asked about it, she says, innocent children are dying in a genocide. What
00:24else can I do? And then people sometimes say to her, it's complicated, you're not a politician.
00:28And she says it's quite simple. Innocent children are dying and there's a genocide. And what else
00:32can I do? So I think Ed Sheeran's made a series of poor decisions and handled it really badly.
00:37I think two things can be true at the same time. He's also not a politician and it's not his
00:40job
00:40to navigate these situations. But I think it is any human being's job to see the humanity and
00:46recognize that when you have a platform that big, responsibility comes with that. But I think the
00:51real problem is Robert Kraft. The real problem is the stadiums who have ganged up on artists to try
00:56and cancel careers and make things incredibly difficult for them. And they think they're
01:00incredibly powerful and they are in terms of money. But what I'm seeing increasingly is the
01:04power of our communities, the power of a movement of people who want to see change and will make
01:08change by refusing to take no for an answer and won't stop campaigning until they see justice
01:13and equality and human rights for all.
