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“Napatunayan po nila na war, guns, is not the only option of attaining peace and development in our communities.”
Last week, the Bangsamoro Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (BARMM) concluded its historic first parliamentary elections, as the region marks a monumental shift from decades of armed conflict to an experiment in democratic self-determination.
In this episode, Mindanao State University (Marawi) political science professor Dr. Zainal Kulidtod discusses with Howie Severino how this political project aims to regulate dynasties, dismantle private armies, and deliver good governance for lasting peace.
Dr. Kulidtod also talks about his personal experience of growing up in a conflict zone before becoming a leading scholar of the peace process.
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Last week, the Bangsamoro Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (BARMM) concluded its historic first parliamentary elections, as the region marks a monumental shift from decades of armed conflict to an experiment in democratic self-determination.
In this episode, Mindanao State University (Marawi) political science professor Dr. Zainal Kulidtod discusses with Howie Severino how this political project aims to regulate dynasties, dismantle private armies, and deliver good governance for lasting peace.
Dr. Kulidtod also talks about his personal experience of growing up in a conflict zone before becoming a leading scholar of the peace process.
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00:03Good morning, Podmates!
00:05After the first parliamentary election in Muslim Mindanao,
00:09a historic event in Mindanao,
00:11the culmination of a long process
00:14to help us understand what happened and what lies ahead,
00:17our guest is Dr. Zainal Kulidod,
00:21a political science professor at Mindanao State University in Marawi
00:24who has been following political events in Mindanao for the past 30 years.
00:30Magandang araw sa inyo, Dr. Kulidod.
00:33Magandang, thank you for having me.
00:35Good morning also, sir. How is everybody?
00:38At saka yung tagasunod po, tagapakinig po.
00:41So you've been following this process.
00:43You were able to observe the election.
00:45In fact, the results are still unfolding.
00:48So ano yung take nyo, initial take?
00:51Was this generally a safe and fair election?
00:55Para sa akin, sir, ito po siya ay safe
01:00simply because naka-vote po ang mga tao.
01:04So kaya makikita nyo that even before 8 o'clock,
01:07about 4.36 or 7.
01:11I mean, 7.36 in the morning,
01:14about 92% of the total precincts were already open.
01:18So that in itself clarifies or affirms
01:21that ito ang election po ay relatively safe.
01:24On the question of fairness,
01:26para sa akin ay largely ay fair din
01:29kasi wala naman pong napabalitaan natin
01:32na ano po, napuspon na election.
01:36What is so striking is what happened in the Maluso
01:40where there was the pre-shaded ballots
01:42and that of in Cotabato City
01:45where there were three killings, three dead.
01:47Okay. Before we move on from the question of safety,
01:50kasi may mga lumalabas na videos
01:52and news reports of violence.
01:55So what these could be just exceptions
01:59to the general conduct of the elections.
02:02So how widespread were violent incidents?
02:06Sa Cotabato, there was video of some people
02:09like bashing cars.
02:11And then there was in another province,
02:14there was an exchange of gunfire
02:18between military soldiers and an armed group
02:21na hindi rin na-identified
02:23doon sa news report na nakita ko.
02:25So I'm sure you've been hearing
02:26about these incidents yourself.
02:28So far, ngayon,
02:29ay wala naman pong narinig tayo.
02:33Wala po tayong narinig
02:34ng mga contoured incidents
02:37related sa election.
02:38So siguro, more or less,
02:39ay natanggap na nila ang resulta.
02:41Yung mga defeated ones,
02:43some of them considered already.
02:45Now, sir, para sa kalaman po ng lahat,
02:48ito po kasing election,
02:49baka magtataka po tayo,
02:51bakit po napaka-tends?
02:52Imaginin mo 35,000 checkpoints
02:54ang inestablish sa military
02:56throughout BARM.
02:58Bakit po?
02:58Kasi para sa akin,
03:00ito pong first parliamentary elections
03:01in this country
03:02ay very historic.
03:05Bakit po historic?
03:06Because first,
03:08ito na parliamentary election
03:09po nangyari sa buhay natin.
03:11As we know that BARM
03:13is a parliamentary type
03:14of local government unit
03:15under a presidential national system.
03:18Ito po siya ay napaka-tends,
03:19napaka-sentimental,
03:20because it is ideologically driven.
03:23Yung pong ibang election natin
03:24sa Pilipinas
03:25ay based on political platforms,
03:28yung mga political platforms
03:29ng mga political parties
03:31or mga candidates
03:32on how to run the affairs
03:33of the government.
03:34Pero ito pong,
03:34ay napaka-sentimental ito,
03:36napaka-tends po ito.
03:37For example,
03:38ang MILF,
03:39many members and supporters
03:40of the MILF,
03:41sabihin nila,
03:42this is a continuation
03:43of the decades
03:44or centuries old
03:45struggle of our forefathers.
03:46And para po sa akin,
03:48Sir Howie,
03:49ay na-justify lang po
03:51ang pagkaroon
03:51ng desynchronized election.
03:53Bakit po?
03:54Eh kasi,
03:55para ang konsentrasyon
03:56sa peace and order
03:57ay sa Luzon and Visayos.
03:58At least,
03:59dito po natin,
04:00nabigyan po natin
04:00ang special characteristics
04:01ng dynamics
04:03dito po sa Pansamore areas.
04:04Sir,
04:05no election is perfect,
04:06not even the US,
04:07the most developed country
04:08in this world.
04:09Mayroon tayo mga problema,
04:10for example,
04:11itong patayan sa,
04:12ano,
04:13sa Cotabato,
04:15yung bagwa to.
04:16Mayroon tayong problema
04:17doon sa basilan,
04:18for example,
04:18yung pre-shaded
04:19at saka yung mga balots
04:21at saka yung nawala
04:22ang kanyang,
04:23ano,
04:23kanyang seals,
04:25di ba?
04:25Broken seals.
04:26Okay,
04:26pero ito ay mga isolated cases.
04:28What's so important,
04:29positive here is,
04:30I think wala sa buong
04:32farm areas
04:33na nag-declare
04:33ng failure of election.
04:35So,
04:35this will speak
04:36of the legitimacy.
04:37The most that happened,
04:39the most that had happened
04:40yesterday
04:42was Maluso
04:43where we,
04:44there was the experience
04:45of pre-shading of balots
04:47at saka yung broken seals
04:48at saka kirin dito
04:49sa Cotabato
04:50where put under
04:50the comedic control.
04:51Hindi maiwasan
04:52ang girian,
04:53halimbawa,
04:54pero para sa akin
04:55ay relatively safe.
04:56Now,
04:57ito ba siya ay fair?
04:58I think,
04:59hindi naman 100% fair.
05:00Okay,
05:01pero siguro
05:02mga 70 to 80%,
05:04okay,
05:0480 to 85
05:05or to 90%
05:06ay fair.
05:07Kasi halimbawa,
05:08doon sa ano,
05:08ang ginawa ng
05:09comedic sir,
05:10doon sa Maluso.
05:11So,
05:12di ba,
05:12I think today
05:14ay magkaroon sila
05:15ng buti
05:15election
05:16kasi
05:17new printing.
05:19The balots
05:20have to be printed
05:21para
05:22ma-cover yung
05:23ano doon.
05:24Pero doon sa
05:25clean,
05:26mayroon akong
05:27reservation dyan.
05:28Okay?
05:29Kasi
05:30marami akong estudyante
05:31nagjasabi sa akin.
05:32Sabi nila,
05:33oye,
05:34mata ko talaga
05:35ang nakikita
05:36na pre-shaded
05:37ang mga balota.
05:39Ang comment ko lang
05:40doon sa security
05:41is we are
05:42very much
05:43concerned
05:43of the
05:44security
05:45pero
05:46hindi masyado
05:48na pagbigyan
05:48ang security
05:49of the balots.
05:50In fairness
05:51naman sa
05:52law enforcement
05:52agencies,
05:53yes,
05:54they did their part.
05:55Kapag ikaw
05:55ay masugid na
05:56binabasa mo
05:57ang mga videos
05:58na yan,
05:59ako discouraged
05:59din ako
06:00sa peace and order
06:01na aspeto.
06:02Bakit?
06:03Na di ba,
06:03nakikita po natin
06:04ang video na
06:05yung pinapalo po
06:06nila yung
06:07fortunate.
06:08O,
06:09tapos nakikita
06:09ko naman doon
06:10ng police,
06:11para sa akin,
06:12sir ha,
06:13at saka sundalo,
06:14ay dapat
06:15hindi hinayaan
06:16na paluin na lang
06:17yun.
06:17So bakit?
06:18Kasi ang mga
06:19tao po na ito
06:20ay hindi,
06:21kahit of emotions,
06:22pinabayaan lang
06:22nila na paluin,
06:23hindi po dapat
06:24ganoon.
06:25Basically,
06:26Prof,
06:26hindi naman
06:26widespread
06:27yung mga ganyan
06:29incidente.
06:30But I want to ask,
06:32was this totally
06:33an automated system
06:35or was it
06:36a hybrid system?
06:37I mean,
06:37how would you
06:37describe the
06:38voting system
06:39in the BARM
06:40election?
06:41I think,
06:41yeah,
06:42automated.
06:43I mean,
06:43automated is
06:44working.
06:44Kasi,
06:45nasabi ko
06:45kanina,
06:46at 746,
06:47to be exact,
06:49about 92.8%
06:51of the
06:52precincts in the,
06:53ano,
06:54created precincts
06:55in the BARM
06:56were already open.
06:57Hindi pa na ito
06:58clock.
06:58Okay,
06:59746,
07:0192.8%
07:03ay na-open na po.
07:04Based on those metrics,
07:05it's pretty,
07:07pretty successful
07:09conduct of,
07:10of an automated
07:11election.
07:13Yeah,
07:14para sa akin,
07:14sir,
07:14it is successful.
07:15Wala masyadong problema
07:16doon sa counting
07:17and canvassing.
07:18Broken seals,
07:19which is no longer
07:20the question of the,
07:22of the mechanical,
07:23okay,
07:23na aspeto po yun siya.
07:25So,
07:25sa tingin ko siya,
07:26sir,
07:26ito pong,
07:28ano,
07:29ATMs,
07:30automated telemachines
07:31na election,
07:31ay,
07:31it is working
07:32in the more people.
07:33As compared to
07:34the BARM election
07:35na about,
07:36ano,
07:36marami,
07:37ano,
07:37na-delay ang transportation
07:39because island provinces.
07:41So,
07:41ganoon po siya,
07:42sir,
07:42ang nakita ko po.
07:43It is working.
07:44Pero ito pong election na ito,
07:46ay sinasabi po niya sa atin
07:48na there is that ultimate
07:49realization of
07:50the Bangsam request
07:51for self-determination.
07:52Because for as long as,
07:54the Bangsam voters
07:55did not have the final say
07:58on who shall govern them,
08:00how shall they be governed,
08:01for example.
08:02Bakit?
08:03Imaginin mo,
08:05Manila is the one
08:06who made the BOL.
08:07Manila is the one
08:08who appointed
08:09the Transition Authority.
08:11Manila is the one
08:12who is giving
08:13the Black Grant.
08:14Manila is the one
08:15postponing.
08:16Manila is the one
08:17telling us
08:17kung anong ang dapat
08:18include sa BAM
08:19or hindi.
08:19Like,
08:20for example,
08:20of exclusion.
08:22So,
08:22at least po ito
08:23ay napakita
08:24ng gobyerno na Pilipinas
08:25na hindi.
08:26Mayroon po talaga
08:27kayong
08:27self-determination.
08:29So,
08:29you finally explain
08:30this one
08:30through a ballot
08:31instead of a gun.
08:32So,
08:33para sa inyo,
08:33this is a legitimate
08:36exercise in autonomy.
08:38Hindi ito,
08:39kasi like you said,
08:40initially,
08:41this was conceptualized
08:42by people in Manila
08:44as a response
08:45to conflict
08:46in Mindanao.
08:47and then,
08:47yung mga batas
08:48for a long
08:50dito sa
08:51BARM
08:52ay influenced
08:53ng mga taga-Mayinina.
08:54But you think
08:54na because of this election,
08:56magkakaroon talaga
08:57ng malakas na chance
08:58na magkakaroon
08:59ng self-determination
09:01dito sa
09:01Muslim Mindanao?
09:03Opo, sir.
09:04Opo.
09:04Ako ay
09:05naniniwahan na po
09:06ako dyan
09:06na this is the
09:07ultimate realization.
09:08Ultimate realization
09:09nito po
09:10itong
09:10quest
09:11ng MILF
09:12for self-rule.
09:12Insofar as
09:14the BARM
09:15being another layer
09:16of political experiment
09:18in the Philippine South,
09:20ay at least po,
09:21in this election,
09:23nakapas po tayo
09:24sa one step.
09:25Ano ang step yan siya?
09:26Election po.
09:27Bakit ko po, sir,
09:28why I buy the idea
09:30na this is still
09:31a political experiment?
09:33Simply because
09:34ito pong BARM
09:35ay katulad po
09:36ng previous
09:36autonomy arrangement.
09:37That these are all
09:39result of
09:40negotiated political settlement.
09:41Kasi po ito
09:42siya ay
09:43negosyeta
09:43yung political settlement.
09:44Hindi po niya
09:46maassure, sir,
09:47ang sustainability.
09:48Legally speaking,
09:49nitong peace formula,
09:50itong autonomy formula.
09:51You've been a long time,
09:53you're a long time
09:54scholar and observer
09:55of political developments
09:57in Mindanao,
09:59especially in
10:00Muslim Mindanao.
10:01So how did the
10:02elections
10:03of the
10:04Bangsamoro,
10:05autonomous region
10:06for Muslim Mindanao,
10:07how did this
10:08make you feel?
10:10I feel,
10:11I'm relieved, sir.
10:13Oh,
10:13I feel relieved,
10:14but I have
10:15a lot of
10:15reservations.
10:16Bakit po?
10:17Kasi number one,
10:18ay at least
10:19yung mga
10:19nagdanasa po
10:20na magkaroon
10:20ng genuine self-rule
10:21ay narealize
10:22nga through
10:23peaceful means.
10:24So,
10:25narealive po ako,
10:26sir,
10:26kasi ako po,
10:27ako po,
10:28sir,
10:28ay hindi ko
10:29mabilang
10:30ang time
10:31na pag-evacuate
10:32namin.
10:32Because I was
10:33born in the
10:331970s,
10:34the Marcelo
10:35was declared
10:35in 1972,
10:36I was born in
10:371973.
10:38So,
10:38ako po ay
10:38Marciano baby.
10:40Doon po ako
10:40yung pinanganak
10:41sa lugar,
10:42in the heart
10:43of Maguindanao.
10:44Hindi ko ma-imagine
10:45saan.
10:45Saan kayo?
10:46I read that you
10:47were born and
10:48raised in
10:50Datupiang,
11:02Maguindanao?
11:02You yourself
11:03have personal
11:04experiences
11:04with conflicts
11:06in Mindanao?
11:07Opo, sir.
11:08That is why, sir,
11:09nagpasalamat ako na
11:09at least,
11:10you know,
11:11what is the
11:12biggest impact
11:13of this election
11:13to the young
11:14generations of
11:14the Moros?
11:15At least,
11:15napatunayan po nila
11:16na war,
11:18guns,
11:19is not the only
11:20options of
11:20attaining peace
11:21and development
11:21in our communities.
11:23Opo,
11:23so mayroon pang
11:24alternative.
11:25Okay,
11:26so let's just
11:26break this down,
11:27this system,
11:28a bit.
11:29Let's talk about
11:30what was voted
11:31for, no?
11:33So,
11:33dito sa
11:34magiging
11:35BARM
11:36parliament,
11:37may 80 seats,
11:38di ba?
11:39So,
11:39and then,
11:40these are divided
11:40into three
11:41distinct categories.
11:43So,
11:43napagusapan natin
11:44yung mga
11:45partida,
11:46political parties,
11:47a couple of
11:48which
11:50represent
11:51former
11:52combatants
11:53belonging to
11:54the Muslim
11:57MILF, no?
11:58And then,
11:58there was another
11:59major party
12:00that got a lot
12:01of votes
12:01that represented
12:02a more
12:03traditional
12:04political
12:05interest,
12:06no?
12:06So,
12:0640 of those
12:07seats,
12:08of the 80
12:08seats,
12:09will go to
12:10party
12:11representatives.
12:12However,
12:14there's a
12:15balance of
12:1540 other
12:16seats,
12:17no?
12:17So,
12:17there's 32
12:18seats that
12:20will go to
12:22single-member
12:23district
12:24representatives
12:25who don't
12:26necessarily belong
12:27to those
12:28parties,
12:29and then
12:29there are
12:30eight
12:30sectoral
12:31seats,
12:32no?
12:32So,
12:32we're kind
12:33of familiar
12:33with this
12:34sectoral
12:34representation
12:35dahil
12:35meron din yan
12:36sa
12:36kongreso
12:37natin
12:37that's
12:38based in
12:39Manila,
12:40di ba?
12:40Representing,
12:41you know,
12:41women and then
12:43IPs and
12:44the disabled,
12:45et cetera,
12:46no?
12:46Pero,
12:47so you have
12:4940 seats
12:50for
12:50party
12:51representation,
12:52no?
12:53But then you
12:53have the
12:5432 single-member
12:55district seats,
12:56no?
12:57So,
12:5732 single-member
12:59district seats,
13:00these are more,
13:02this is more
13:03traditional,
13:04this sounds more
13:05traditional,
13:06where,
13:06you know,
13:07candidates at the
13:08local level
13:09will compete
13:10in elections
13:11against other
13:13candidates for,
13:15let's say,
13:15like,
13:16here in the
13:17national system,
13:18they will compete
13:19for congressional
13:20seats,
13:21no?
13:21Pero doon sa,
13:22dito sa BARM,
13:23they competed
13:24for district
13:25seats,
13:26So,
13:26that's a more
13:26familiar
13:28system for us,
13:30right?
13:30As opposed to
13:31itong political
13:33parties with
13:33platforms
13:34competing against
13:36each other
13:37for 40 seats,
13:38no?
13:38So,
13:39itong 32
13:39single-member
13:40district seats,
13:42is that
13:44similar to
13:45what we have
13:46now here?
13:48Ano po siya,
13:49sir?
13:49Yung iba po dito
13:50na ito na
13:51district
13:52representatives,
13:53as you mentioned,
13:54na tatlo ang
13:54representations.
13:56District
13:56representatives,
13:57party
13:58representatives,
13:58and that
13:59of the
13:59sector
13:59representatives.
14:00So,
14:00itong district
14:01representatives
14:02na ito po siya,
14:03yung iba po dyan
14:03ay kandidato rin
14:04ng mga party
14:05na ito
14:05na nag-participate
14:08sector
14:08representatives.
14:09Pakikita mo
14:10ito siya na
14:10itong party
14:11representations,
14:12representatives,
14:13at saka yung
14:14district
14:14representatives
14:15ay ano,
14:16mixture po
14:16ang kanyang
14:17komposisyon.
14:18Makita mo doon
14:19na yung mga
14:19traditional
14:20politicians,
14:21for example,
14:22yung mga
14:22political
14:22families,
14:23or yung mga
14:23dynastic
14:24families,
14:25that's not
14:25surprising.
14:26You know,
14:28expectedly,
14:28kasi hindi ko pa
14:29naman nakita
14:29ang official results
14:30ng elections,
14:31but expectedly,
14:32maduminit ito siya
14:33ng mga
14:34local politicians
14:35na ito siya.
14:36Kasi,
14:36ano eh,
14:37ang local
14:37politicians,
14:38they were
14:39voted,
14:39not really
14:40because,
14:41especially in
14:41the banks
14:42more areas,
14:43ng kanyang
14:43platforma,
14:44pero dahil
14:44sa kanilang
14:45personality.
14:46So,
14:46yun po sir,
14:47ang expectation,
14:48okay?
14:48Pero,
14:49you know,
14:49ang maganda po rito
14:50ay,
14:51siguro ang mga
14:51voters ay
14:52medyo na ano na,
14:53kasi many of the
14:54voters are young,
14:55okay?
14:56I mean,
14:57the votes of the
14:58young voters
14:58ay medyo,
15:00ano,
15:00malaki ang kanyang
15:01percentage.
15:02So,
15:02siguro,
15:03the reason why
15:05nag-vote sila doon,
15:06for example,
15:07sa UBJP
15:07at saka BFP,
15:09ay,
15:10they want to try
15:11new generation
15:12of leaders,
15:13siguro,
15:13okay?
15:14Kasi,
15:15nung ipinangarag tayo,
15:16ito naman eh,
15:17traditional,
15:18dynastic families
15:18ang ronati,
15:19why not try
15:19for the other,
15:22what is this one,
15:23breed of rulers?
15:24Just so that everyone
15:25understands what we're
15:26referring to,
15:26itong sinasabi yung
15:28UBJP,
15:29ito yung
15:30United Bangsa
15:31Moro Justice
15:31Party,
15:32which is the
15:33official party
15:34or the political
15:35wing of the
15:36Moro Islamic
15:37Liberation Front.
15:38Kaya sinasabi nyo,
15:40this is like
15:40connected to
15:42the long
15:42armed struggle
15:44of people
15:45in Mindanao
15:46for Moro
15:47or Muslim
15:48representation
15:49in government
15:50and autonomy
15:51as well,
15:51diba?
15:52So just to be
15:52clear,
15:53yung MILF,
15:55which had this
15:55very long
15:56conflict
15:57with the
15:58government,
15:59negotiated a
16:00peace with
16:01the national
16:01government
16:02and then
16:02kasama doon
16:03sa agreement,
16:06ay magkakaroon nga
16:07ng representation
16:09via this
16:10parliamentary
16:11system and
16:12they would
16:12be represented
16:14by an
16:16official
16:16political
16:17party
16:18that's going
16:19to function
16:21within this
16:22system in a
16:22peaceful way
16:23to enact
16:24laws,
16:24to govern,
16:25to enforce
16:27the laws that
16:29this new
16:30parliament is
16:31going to be
16:32enacting.
16:33So in other
16:33words,
16:35the MILF,
16:36because of
16:37this parliamentary
16:38system,
16:38will not have
16:39to fight
16:39the government
16:40anymore.
16:40I mean,
16:41just to be
16:42very basic
16:43about it.
16:44Also,
16:44it's not the
16:44only party,
16:45United Bangsamoro
16:46Justice Party,
16:47hindi lang yan,
16:48meron pang Bangsamoro
16:49Federalist Party
16:50that also
16:51represents to a
16:51certain extent
16:52yung mga
16:53combatants din.
16:54Itong sinasabi
16:55yung,
16:55the younger
16:57voters,
16:57younger Moros
16:58want this
16:59and then
16:59they have
17:00their own
17:00vision.
17:02So there's
17:03that part
17:06of the
17:07electorate.
17:08There's that
17:08demographic
17:09na discerning,
17:10they're aware,
17:12they know
17:14the issues,
17:15etc.
17:15But we know
17:16based on
17:18other
17:19electoral
17:20experiences
17:20na marami
17:21din tayong
17:22votante
17:23na nagpapabili
17:24ng boto,
17:25na hinahakot
17:27ng mga
17:28kandidato,
17:29na
17:29buboto
17:30according to
17:31kung ano
17:32yung inuutos,
17:33hindi nila
17:33masyadong
17:34pinag-iisipan
17:35yung mga
17:36issues,
17:36hindi nila
17:36pinag-iisipan
17:37yung mga
17:38platforma
17:39na mga
17:39kandidato,
17:40basta
17:40buboto
17:41lang sila
17:43doon sa
17:44kung sino
17:45man yung
17:45nag-utos
17:47sa kanila
17:47na pumunta
17:48sa
17:48voting
17:49booths.
17:50I'm sure
17:50meron din
17:51demographic
17:51na ganon
17:52sa electorate
17:53sa Mindanao.
17:54Opo,
17:55meron din po,
17:56hindi
17:56maiwasan yan
17:57siya,
17:57sir.
17:58Opo,
17:58especially
17:59with the
17:59participation
18:00of the
18:00dynastic
18:00families,
18:01ganon po
18:02talaga
18:02ang trend
18:03dito.
18:04Actually,
18:04kaya nga
18:05kung titignan mo
18:05yung mga
18:06mayroong
18:07mga
18:07na-disgrasya
18:07doon,
18:08mayroong
18:08mga
18:08violence
18:08doon,
18:10the
18:10perception
18:11of many
18:11is
18:12that was
18:13because
18:13initiated
18:13by the
18:14dynastic
18:15families,
18:16of course,
18:16just to
18:17support
18:17the
18:17BFP
18:18at
18:18UVJP.
18:19The
18:19result
18:20of
18:20the
18:20election,
18:20mas
18:21marami
18:21ang
18:21BFP
18:21kaysa
18:22UVJP.
18:23Ano
18:23ang
18:23mga
18:24advantage
18:25na ito
18:25siya?
18:25So,
18:26number
18:26one is
18:26ang
18:26MILF
18:28democratize.
18:29Okay?
18:29So,
18:29mayroong
18:30tayo yung
18:30choices
18:30na kung
18:31ayaw
18:31natin
18:32halibahan
18:32ang UVJP,
18:33kapag
18:34if you
18:34are
18:34sympathized
18:34with the
18:35MILF,
18:35pwede
18:35ka doon
18:36sa
18:36BFP.
18:37Pero,
18:38the
18:38division
18:38is not
18:39as simple
18:39as that.
18:40Ang
18:40factor
18:41na
18:41consequence
18:41ay doon
18:42sa
18:42the
18:42final
18:43stage
18:43of the
18:43minden
18:44of
18:44peace
18:44journey
18:44or
18:44peace
18:44process,
18:45especially
18:46on the
18:47matters
18:47of
18:47the
18:47signing
18:48of
18:48the
18:48exit
18:48agreement,
18:49exit
18:50document.
18:50Okay?
18:51Bakit?
18:52Kasi
18:52again and
18:53again,
18:53and there's
18:53always been
18:54my
18:54thesis,
18:55na ito
18:55pong
18:55parliamentary
18:56election
18:56yesterday,
19:02referendum.
19:03Referendum po
19:04ito sa
19:04legitimacy
19:04ng lahat
19:05ng political
19:06parties
19:06na ito.
19:07Kasali na
19:07po dyan.
19:08Ang
19:08MNLF,
19:09ang
19:09MLF,
19:10MNLF,
19:10dalawa po,
19:11BAPA at
19:11saka
19:12Mahardika.
19:13Very
19:13unfortunately,
19:14kahit na
19:15isa,
19:15parang
19:16walang
19:16nakapasok
19:16sa kanila.
19:17Dito sa
19:18representation,
19:19dito sa
19:2046.
19:21I want
19:22to pivot
19:22a bit
19:22to a
19:23larger
19:24question.
19:24How
19:25do you
19:25think
19:27we
19:27can
19:28describe
19:28or how
19:29are you
19:29describing
19:31the
19:31significance
19:32of the
19:32election
19:33to your
19:34students
19:35and to
19:36the
19:36younger
19:36generation
19:37of
19:37voters
19:38who
19:39did
19:39not
19:39experience
19:40the
19:40height
19:40of
19:41armed
19:41conflicts
19:42in
19:43Mindanao?
19:43Karamihan
19:44ng mga
19:44botanti
19:45ngayon
19:45ay wala
19:46ng
19:46personal
19:48experience
19:49maski
19:49doon
19:50sa mga
19:50total
19:51war
19:51ni
19:51President
19:52Estrada
19:53etc.
19:54Lalo
19:54na
19:54yung
19:55mga
19:55gera
19:56ng
19:56MNLF
19:57noong
19:581970s.
19:59Wala
19:59ng
19:59mga
20:00kumukonte
20:01na yung
20:01taong
20:02may
20:02alaala
20:02niyan
20:02but
20:03so
20:04it's
20:04all
20:04history
20:05to
20:05a lot
20:05of
20:05people
20:06but
20:06you've
20:06been
20:06studying
20:06this
20:07and
20:07you
20:07know
20:07the
20:08significance
20:08of this
20:10election
20:11to the
20:12younger
20:12generation?
20:14Your
20:14grievances
20:15can be
20:15attained
20:15through
20:16peaceful
20:16means.
20:18Maybe
20:19given
20:20for example
20:20the dynamics
20:21of the
20:21development
20:22in
20:22Philippine
20:23society
20:23and
20:24even
20:24in
20:25the
20:25world
20:25people
20:26are
20:26now
20:26prefer
20:27to
20:27resort
20:28to
20:28peaceful
20:28means
20:29rather
20:29than
20:29violent
20:29means.
20:30So
20:30para
20:31ito
20:31nagsasabi
20:32ito
20:32sa
20:32kanila
20:32na
20:32well
20:33you
20:33can
20:33articulate
20:34your
20:34grievances
20:34through
20:35peaceful
20:35means.
20:36Okay?
20:36So
20:37while
20:37your
20:37parents
20:37for
20:38example
20:38fight
20:39for
20:41who
20:42shall
20:43rule
20:43you
20:43then
20:44this
20:46election
20:46would
20:46show
20:46you
20:47that
20:47the
20:48Bansamuro
20:49people
20:49voters
20:50decided
20:51how
20:51shall
20:51they
20:51be
20:52governed.
20:52Kasi
20:53po
20:53sir
20:53kung
20:53makita
20:53nyo
20:54ito
20:54siya
20:55itong
20:55arm
20:57former
20:57arm
20:58ay
20:58para
20:58bang
20:58doon
20:59lang
20:59sa
20:59who
20:59must
21:00govern
21:00the
21:01blood
21:01of
21:01the
21:01martyrs
21:02deserve
21:03to be
21:03paid
21:04by
21:05good
21:05services
21:05to be
21:06delivered
21:06to the
21:06people
21:06of the
21:07barn.
21:08Yan
21:08po
21:08sir
21:08ang
21:08dapat.
21:09Sana
21:09po
21:10hindi
21:10mawaste
21:11hindi
21:11mawalang
21:12saisay
21:12ang mga
21:13dugubuhay
21:14utak
21:14po
21:14ng
21:15yung
21:15mga
21:15namatay
21:16in the
21:17highlight
21:17of the
21:17war.
21:17So
21:18paano
21:18po
21:19natin
21:19mag-transform
21:20na
21:20mag-garoon
21:20ng
21:20saisay?
21:21That
21:22can be
21:22done.
21:22This
21:22is
21:23now
21:23the
21:23sole
21:23responsibility
21:24of
21:24those
21:25who
21:25will
21:25compose
21:26for
21:26example
21:26sa
21:27mga
21:27parliament.
21:28I hope
21:28na
21:29nandyan
21:29po yan
21:29sa
21:29back
21:30of
21:30their
21:30minds.
21:31Every
21:31time
21:31po
21:32sila
21:32mag-garoon
21:33ng
21:33mga
21:33policies,
21:34mga
21:34programs,
21:35always
21:35po
21:35sila
21:36conscious
21:36sa
21:37the
21:37sacrifices,
21:38the
21:38sufferings
21:38of
21:38our
21:39forefathers,
21:40especially
21:40those
21:40who
21:40were
21:48taga-Sulu
21:48na
21:49bumoto
21:50against
21:50joining
21:51the
21:51BARM.
21:51So
21:51hindi sila
21:52kasali
21:52dito
21:52sa
21:52eleksyon.
21:53What
21:54if
21:54they
21:54see
21:55itong
21:55bagong
21:56parliament
21:56ng
21:56BARM
21:57na
21:57nagpo-perform
21:58pala
21:58ng
21:59maayos
21:59at
22:00talagang
22:00effective
22:01yung
22:01representation
22:02ng
22:02interest
22:03ng
22:04iba't-ibang
22:04grupo
22:05sa
22:06Muslim
22:07Mindanao?
22:07Pwede
22:08bang
22:08bumoto
22:08ulit
22:09ang
22:09Sulu
22:09para
22:10sumali
22:11doon
22:11sa
22:12BARM?
22:12Parang
22:13they will
22:14admit
22:14na mali
22:15pala
22:15na
22:15nagpa-exclude
22:16tayo
22:17sana
22:17pwede
22:19pang
22:20ma-include
22:20yung
22:20Sulu.
22:21I mean,
22:21is there
22:21that
22:22prospect
22:23in the
22:23future
22:24pag nakita
22:24nila?
22:25Kasi
22:25of course
22:25they cannot
22:26deny
22:26that
22:29there was
22:30some
22:30tension
22:32or division
22:33between
22:33the
22:33MNLF
22:34which is
22:34mostly
22:35dominated
22:36by
22:37the
22:38Tausugs
22:38in
22:39Holo.
22:39Of course
22:39Miswari
22:40is from
22:40Holo.
22:41And
22:42the
22:42MILF
22:43which is
22:43based
22:43mostly
22:44in
22:44mainland
22:45Mindanao.
22:46So
22:46that's
22:47kasama
22:47dyan
22:47yung
22:48those
22:49dynamics
22:49were part
22:50of
22:50that
22:50I guess
22:51the
22:51decision
22:52to
22:52vote
22:52against
22:53BARM.
22:54Pero
22:55kung
22:55nakita
22:55ng mga
22:56Tegasulo
22:56ng mga
22:57Tausug
22:57halimbawa
22:58na
22:58okay
22:59pala
22:59itong
22:59BARM
23:00parliament
23:01baka
23:02pwede
23:02kaming
23:03makiusap
23:03baka
23:04pwedeng
23:05mag
23:05lobby
23:06or
23:06mag
23:06kampanya
23:07na
23:07sumali
23:08kami
23:08dyan.
23:10Opo.
23:10So
23:10pwede
23:11naman
23:11po
23:11sir
23:11but
23:11it
23:12needs
23:12an
23:12enactment
23:13of
23:13the
23:13congress
23:14okay
23:14kinakailangan
23:15ay
23:16maggaroon
23:16ng
23:16amending
23:17law
23:17amending
23:17for
23:18example
23:18the
23:18Congress
23:19sa
23:20Maynila
23:20yeah
23:21sa
23:21Maynila
23:21po
23:21di ba
23:22pwedeng
23:23yung
23:23bang
23:23samora
23:24parliament
23:24ang
23:24mag
23:24decide
23:25yan
23:25para
23:28po
23:28sila
23:29unless
23:29there
23:29is
23:30another
23:30round
23:30of
23:30plebiscit
23:31pwede
23:31pero
23:32pag
23:32garoon
23:33ang
23:33plebiscit
23:34hindi
23:35ito
23:35pwede
23:35gagawin
23:36because
23:36the
23:36only
23:37agency
23:37of
23:38the
23:38government
23:38that
23:38could
23:39amend
23:39the
23:39BOL
23:40is
23:40only
23:40its
23:41creator
23:41sino
23:42ang
23:42creator
23:42niya
23:43this
23:43political
23:43law
23:43doon
23:44lang
23:44sa
23:44Congress
23:44sir
23:45so
23:45kinakailangan
23:46ay
23:47maggaroon
23:47naman
23:47ng
23:48law
23:49in
23:49activity
23:49Congress
23:50para
23:50bigyan
23:51ng
23:51pagkakataon
23:52I guess
23:52the
23:52question
23:53moving
23:53forward
23:53is
23:55how
23:55did
23:56how
23:56did
23:56Sulu's
23:57absence
23:59reshape
24:00this
24:00political
24:01map
24:02and
24:02a lot
24:03implications
24:04dito
24:04for
24:04this
24:05balance
24:05of
24:05power
24:05between
24:06mainland
24:07provinces
24:08and
24:08island
24:08provinces
24:09I think
24:10that
24:10the
24:10vote
24:10of
24:11Sulu
24:11to be
24:11excluded
24:12from
24:12BARM
24:12is also
24:13rooted
24:14in
24:14kind
24:15of
24:15regional
24:17identity
24:17because
24:18they are
24:18an island
24:19people
24:19they think
24:19their interests
24:20are different
24:21they don't
24:21want to be
24:21dominated
24:22by
24:23Maguindanao
24:24people
24:24or
24:25Maranaw
24:25people
24:26many of
24:27them
24:27are
24:27Tausugs
24:28etc
24:29but
24:30how
24:30does
24:31this
24:31affect
24:32BARM
24:33will
24:33it
24:33be
24:33easy
24:34to
24:34move
24:34on
24:34with
24:35BARM
24:36without
24:36Sulu
24:37just
24:37to tell
24:38you
24:38honestly
24:38sir
24:39what
24:40alarmed
24:40me
24:40most
24:41is
24:42itong
24:43resulta
24:43ng
24:44election
24:44na ito
24:44ay
24:45the
24:45none
24:45the
24:46absence
24:47of
24:47not
24:48even
24:48one
24:48of
24:48the
24:48MNLF
24:49political
24:49parties
24:50representatives
24:50that
24:51struck
24:52me
24:52so
24:52much
24:53that
24:53alarmed
24:54me
24:54so
24:54much
24:54why
24:55again
24:56malaki
24:57po
24:58ang
24:58political
24:58implications
24:58ok
25:00dahil
25:01po
25:01ano
25:02po
25:02ang
25:02political
25:02parties
25:03ng
25:03MNLF
25:03yung
25:04Missouari
25:04faction
25:05ay
25:05maharga
25:05ang
25:06Sema
25:08faction
25:08po
25:08ay
25:09BAPA
25:09Bank
25:09Saburo
25:10Party
25:10so
25:11kasi
25:11po
25:11na
25:12defeat
25:12sila
25:12they were
25:13politically
25:14defeated
25:14ok
25:15in this
25:17electoral
25:17exercise
25:18ano
25:18po
25:19implications
25:19niyan
25:20hindi
25:20po
25:20maggaroon
25:21ng
25:21voice
25:22ang
25:22Sulu
25:23for
25:24example
25:24ok
25:25doon
25:25sa
25:26parliament
25:26hindi
25:27po
25:27sila
25:27maggaroon
25:28voice
25:28doon
25:28sa
25:28representations
25:29especially
25:30on the
25:30allocation
25:31of
25:31resources
25:32ok
25:32so
25:33kaya
25:33nga
25:34ito
25:34napakasirious
25:35po ito
25:35siya
25:35sir
25:36so
25:36para
25:36po
25:36sa
25:37akin
25:37sir
25:37ay
25:37ipa
25:38factor in
25:39po
25:39doon
25:40sa
25:40allocation
25:40ng
25:41mga
25:41funds
25:42na po
25:42yan
25:42itong
25:42poverty
25:43incidence
25:44hindi
25:44lang
25:45po
25:45tayo
25:45doon
25:46magbabase
25:46po
25:46doon
25:47sa
25:47number
25:47of
25:47population
25:48otherwise
25:49ano
25:49mawala
25:50po
25:50ang
25:50sulu
25:50so
25:51alam
25:52mo
25:52insofar
25:53as
25:53the
25:55struggle
25:56for
25:56self
25:56is
25:56concerned
25:57napaka
25:58emotional
25:58yun
25:59napaka
25:59sentimental
25:59po yun
26:00siya
26:00na
26:00development
26:01nabanggit
26:02nyo
26:02itong
26:03traditional
26:04clans
26:04or
26:05I guess
26:06the more
26:07familiar
26:07term
26:08in
26:09politics
26:09is
26:09dynasties
26:11alam
26:12natin
26:12malakas
26:13ang
26:14dynasties
26:14of
26:15course
26:15sa
26:15buong
26:15Pilipinas
26:16but
26:16dyan
26:17sa
26:17Mindana
26:17we
26:18know
26:18that
26:18there's
26:19also
26:19a
26:20very
26:20strong
26:20tradition
26:21of
26:21dynastic
26:22control
26:23of
26:23local
26:24politics
26:25even
26:25provincial
26:26politics
26:28pero
26:29under
26:31the
26:31Bangsamoro
26:31electoral
26:32code
26:32nagkaroon
26:33ng
26:34anti-dynasty
26:35rules
26:35which
26:37even
26:38the
26:38national
26:39government
26:39our
26:40congress
26:40in
26:41Manila
26:41has
26:42been
26:43reluctant
26:43to
26:43create
26:45kasi
26:46of
26:46course
26:46it's
26:46dominated
26:47by
26:47dynasties
26:48and
26:48in
26:48fact
26:48there
26:48are
26:49political
26:49scientists
26:49like
26:50yourself
26:50who
26:51say
26:51that
26:52in
26:52fact
26:52dynasties
26:53have
26:53become
26:53stronger
26:54despite
26:56the
26:56constitution's
26:58the national
27:00constitution's
27:01provisions
27:02against it
27:03there's an
27:03anti-dynasty
27:04provision
27:05so
27:06tell us
27:07about
27:07is there
27:10hope
27:10that
27:13Mindanao
27:14from
27:17dynastic
27:18rule
27:18where
27:19most
27:20positions
27:20at the
27:21local
27:21level
27:22are
27:22controlled
27:22by the
27:23same
27:23clan
27:23by the
27:24same
27:24dynasty
27:24and
27:26have
27:26more
27:26diversity
27:28in terms
27:28of
27:29representation
27:31thank
27:31thank you
27:31sir
27:32you know
27:33totally
27:34erasing
27:34dynastic
27:35elements
27:35of
27:36politics
27:36in
27:36Mindanao
27:37is
27:37as
27:37good
27:38as
27:38skirting
27:38a
27:38disaster
27:39okay
27:40that
27:41is
27:41skirting
27:41a
27:42disaster
27:42okay
27:43bakit
27:43eh
27:43kasi
27:44more
27:44people
27:45are
27:45you know
27:46patron
27:46client
27:47feudalist
27:47there is
27:48always
27:48this
27:48one
27:49dominating
27:50and the
27:50one
27:50is
27:50following
27:51for example
27:51expecting
27:51depending
27:52everything
27:52to the
27:52one
27:52dominating
27:53now
27:54pero
27:54ito
27:54sir
27:55at least
27:55mayroon
27:55mga
27:55progressive
27:56sectors
27:57of society
27:58who attempted
27:59to address
28:00these kinds
28:00of challenge
28:00and one
28:01of this
28:01one
28:02is
28:02for
28:02example
28:03as
28:03incorporated
28:03in the
28:04Banksmore
28:05electoral
28:05code
28:05makikita
28:06mo
28:06that
28:07there
28:07is
28:07this
28:08attempt
28:08sinasabi
28:09niya
28:09doon
28:09that
28:10you
28:11cannot
28:11enlist
28:12a
28:13person
28:13who
28:14is
28:14related
28:14to
28:14any
28:15one
28:15of
28:15them
28:16in
28:16a
28:16second
28:16civil
28:17degree
28:17okay
28:18pero
28:19ang
28:19problema
28:20doon
28:20ay
28:20that
28:21provision
28:21is
28:22only
28:22applicable
28:22for
28:23the
28:23party
28:23list
28:23what
28:24about
28:24for
28:24example
28:25the
28:25district
28:25representatives
28:26wala pong
28:27prohibition
28:27against
28:27political
28:28dynasty
28:28okay
28:29what
28:30about
28:30for
28:30example
28:30take
28:31note
28:31sir
28:31itong
28:32sectoral
28:32na ito
28:33siya
28:33okay
28:35hindi mo
28:35masasabi
28:36na
28:36ang
28:36women's
28:37sector
28:37ay hindi
28:38galing
28:38sa
28:38political
28:38plan
28:41itong
28:42traditional
28:44leaders
28:45hindi mo
28:46pwede
28:46sabi
28:46na
28:46hindi
28:46galing
28:47doon
28:47makita
28:47mo
28:48yan
28:48eh
28:48so
28:49itong
28:49contention
28:49it is
28:50creating
28:50a
28:51disaster
28:51you
28:51can
28:52read
28:52that
28:52one
28:52in
28:52the
28:53electoral
28:53result
28:53okay
28:54I'm not
28:55going to
28:55name names
28:56but
28:56again
28:57strong
28:58families
28:58still
28:58appeared
28:59in the
28:59result
29:00of
29:00the
29:00election
29:00you
29:01can
29:01see
29:01that
29:01one
29:01in
29:01Lanao
29:02you
29:02can
29:02see
29:02that
29:03one
29:03in
29:03Maginao
29:03del Sur
29:04in
29:04Tawi
29:04Tawi
29:05and
29:10in
29:11Biro
29:12mo
29:12naman
29:12kung
29:13hindi
29:13makarado
29:13sa
29:13national
29:14dito
29:14pa
29:15kaya
29:15sa
29:15local
29:15na
29:15more
29:16traditional
29:17ang
29:17Mindanao
29:18rather than
29:19the
29:20larger
29:20part
29:20of
29:21Filipinos
29:21in
29:21Luzon
29:22and
29:22Visayas
29:22parang
29:23ganyan
29:23po
29:23pero
29:23what is
29:24important
29:24is
29:25there
29:25is
29:25this
29:25attempt
29:25of
29:26course
29:27itong
29:28sector
29:28representations
29:29po
29:29na ito
29:29siya
29:29na
29:30fixed
29:30po
29:30anin
29:31this
29:32is
29:32also
29:32a
29:33mechanism
29:34a
29:35measure
29:35to
29:35destroy
29:37the
29:37remnants
29:37of
29:38family
29:39dictatorship
29:40or
29:40family
29:41dominance
29:41in
29:42politics
29:43ito
29:43ay
29:44mga
29:44attempts
29:44po
29:44yun
29:44sir
29:45at
29:45least
29:46mayroong
29:46attempts
29:47na
29:47ganoon
29:47pero
29:48again
29:48kapag
29:49doon
29:49sa
29:49total
29:50erasure
29:50are
29:50things
29:50that
29:51will
29:52happen
29:52and
29:53the
29:53election
29:54results
29:54will
29:55speak
29:55about
29:56that
29:56Prof
29:57do
29:58you
29:58think
29:58these
29:59BARM
30:00parliamentary
30:01elections
30:02will
30:03weaken
30:04or
30:05strengthen
30:06traditional
30:07political
30:08dynasties
30:09in
30:10Muslim
30:10Mindanao
30:10I think
30:11it will
30:12regulate
30:13I prefer
30:14to use
30:15the word
30:15regulate
30:16regulate
30:17regulate
30:19I do not
30:20want to
30:20choose
30:20either
30:21of your
30:21words
30:22but
30:22it will
30:22regulate
30:23the
30:23political
30:24dynasty
30:24na
30:25election
30:25dito
30:26po
30:26sa BARM
30:27what
30:28were the
30:28attempts
30:29ano
30:29ang mga
30:29remedial
30:30measures
30:31ito po
30:32yung
30:32representation
30:33sa
30:33ano
30:33po
30:33sir
30:33ito
30:34po
30:34yung
30:34sectoral
30:35at
30:35least
30:35specific
30:36sectors
30:36na
30:37sila
30:37po
30:37ay
30:38makukuha
30:38not
30:38because
30:39they
30:39descended
30:40from
30:40this
30:40family
30:40but
30:41because
30:41of
30:41the
30:42sector
30:42that
30:42they
30:42are
30:42representing
30:43ito
30:44po yung
30:44provision
30:45ng
30:45Bangsamor
30:45Electoral
30:46Code
30:46prohibiting
30:47for example
30:48enlisting
30:48two
30:49members
30:50of
30:50the same
30:50family
30:51relative
30:51second
30:52degree
30:52civil
30:53degree
30:54okay
30:54so
30:54this
30:54will
30:55regulate
30:55okay
30:57regulate
30:57ito
30:58po yung
30:58dynastic
30:59politics
31:00dito
31:00sa
31:00Bangsamor
31:01areas
31:01which
31:02ang
31:02hope
31:02ko
31:02talaga
31:03siya
31:03sir
31:03ay sana
31:04po
31:04ay
31:05kasi
31:05ito
31:06ang
31:06magbe-benefit
31:07naman
31:07dito
31:07ay
31:07mga young
31:08generation
31:08of
31:08moros
31:08ay
31:09later on
31:10ay
31:10ano
31:11maistentend
31:11pa itong
31:12anti
31:12political
31:13dynasty
31:13kasi
31:14para sa
31:15akin
31:15sir
31:15hindi
31:15naman
31:16po
31:17negative
31:18ang
31:18dynastic
31:19family
31:19kapag
31:20sila
31:20ay
31:20responsive
31:20but
31:21experience
31:22will
31:22tell
31:22you
31:23na
31:23malaki
31:24po
31:24na
31:24problema
31:24sa
31:24local
31:25governance
31:25kapag
31:26dynastic
31:26family
31:27ang
31:27mamumuno
31:27okay
31:28ang challenge
31:29po talaga
31:30yung
31:30farm
31:30paano
31:31po
31:31nila
31:31maipakita
31:32na hindi
31:33po
31:33nabigo
31:33ang
31:33sacrifices
31:34ng
31:34forefathers
31:35kaya
31:35nga
31:35para sa
31:36akin
31:36this
31:37is
31:37now
31:37the
31:37opportunity
31:38for
31:38the
31:38farm
31:38to
31:38ano
31:39ipakita
31:40nila
31:40na
31:40oh
31:40we
31:40are
31:40better
31:41than
31:41you
31:41I
31:42have
31:42lot
31:42of
31:42reservation
31:43sir
31:43I
31:43tell
31:44you
31:44insofar
31:45as
31:46development
31:47issue
31:48is
31:48concerning
31:48sa
31:48more
31:49areas
31:49kaya
31:50ngayon
31:50now
31:51is
31:51the
31:51time
31:51panawagan
31:52po
31:52ito
31:53sir
31:53sa
31:53lahat
31:53ng
31:53nanalo
31:54po
31:54now
31:55is
31:55the
31:55time
31:56for
31:56you
31:56to
31:56show
31:57na
31:57alam
31:58po
31:58natin
31:58na
31:58mga
31:59more
31:59people
31:59itong
32:00tinatawag
32:01na
32:03good
32:03governance
32:04natin
32:04yung
32:04moral
32:05governance
32:05baka
32:06napakahigh
32:07yun
32:07kasi
32:07po
32:08ang
32:10vision
32:11po
32:11ng
32:11MILF
32:12itong
32:12transition
32:12ay
32:12moral
32:13governance
32:16baka
32:17high
32:17masyado
32:18yun
32:18good
32:18governance
32:19lang
32:19muna
32:20basic
32:21lang
32:21muna
32:21tayo
32:22kasi
32:23mangang
32:23harap
32:23ka
32:23na
32:23ang
32:24laki
32:24na
32:24kita
32:24pos
32:24tignan
32:24mo
32:25namang
32:25outlook
32:25mo
32:25what's
32:26wrong
32:26with
32:27hoping
32:27for
32:27moral
32:28governance
32:28i mean
32:29it's
32:29a
32:30vision
32:30right
32:32sir
32:32sir
32:33okay
32:34or
32:35morals
32:36vary
32:36depending
32:37on
32:38your
32:38politics
32:39i like
32:40your
32:40question
32:41i like
32:41your
32:41question
32:42thank
32:42you
32:42very
32:42much
32:42for
32:43the
32:43question
32:43wala
32:44pong
32:44mali
32:45sa
32:45moral
32:45governance
32:45na
32:46vision
32:46po
32:46sir
32:47ang
32:47mali
32:48po
32:48paano
32:49nila
32:49ito
32:49isabuhay
32:52totoo
32:53po
32:53ba
32:53ito
32:53siya
32:54para
32:54sa akin
32:55po
32:55ay
32:55mayroon
32:55akong
32:56reservation
32:56kasi
32:56po
32:57kung
32:57totoo
32:57na
32:58ang
32:58gusto
32:58ng
32:58MILF
32:59sa
32:59itong
32:59transition
33:00ay
33:00totoo
33:01na
33:01moral
33:02governance
33:02dapat
33:03po
33:03makita
33:03mo
33:03doon
33:04sa
33:04kanina
33:04mga
33:04vision
33:04bawat
33:05opisina
33:06paano
33:06mo
33:06doon
33:07i-actualize
33:07i-operationalize
33:08itong
33:09tinatawag
33:09na
33:09moral
33:10governance
33:10okay
33:10I want
33:11to
33:11pivot
33:11to
33:12something
33:12related
33:13but
33:13quite
33:13specific
33:15and
33:15then
33:16also
33:22regulate
33:22traditional
33:23clans
33:24or
33:24political
33:25dynasties
33:26in Muslim
33:26Mindana
33:26which
33:27we know
33:28have
33:28kind of
33:29ruled
33:29certain
33:29localities
33:30for a
33:30long
33:31time
33:32coincidentally
33:33GMA
33:34Network
33:35has
33:35produced
33:36a
33:36documentary
33:37film
33:38called
33:3858
33:38about
33:39the
33:39Ampatuan
33:40massacre
33:40which
33:41occurred
33:41in
33:412009
33:42and
33:43we know
33:44what
33:44happened
33:4458
33:45people
33:46were
33:46killed
33:47so
33:48I guess
33:48you could
33:49say
33:49in our
33:50history
33:50that's
33:50kind of
33:51an
33:51extreme
33:51example
33:53of
33:53dynastic
33:54power
33:55or
33:55the
33:55abuse
33:56of
33:56dynastic
33:57power
33:57so
33:58Maguindanao
33:59where that
34:00occurred
34:01is now
34:01part of
34:01BARM
34:02so
34:05how will
34:06BARM
34:06now
34:07regulate
34:07that
34:08kind of
34:09exercise
34:09of
34:10power
34:10I mean
34:10I guess
34:12that would
34:12become
34:13much
34:13less
34:14likely
34:15now
34:15to
34:16happen
34:17or even
34:18just
34:18that
34:19kind
34:19of
34:19violence
34:20maybe
34:20not
34:20on
34:20that
34:20scale
34:21but
34:21still
34:21yung
34:22ganong
34:22klaseng
34:22level
34:24of
34:24kind
34:25of
34:25let's
34:26say
34:26brutality
34:27or
34:28audacity
34:29we know
34:31what
34:31happened
34:31there
34:31talagang
34:32sobrang
34:32ruthless
34:33yung
34:33pagpatay
34:34doon
34:35sa
34:3558
34:36of
34:37course
34:37the
34:3758
34:37is still
34:38missing
34:39unaccounted
34:39for
34:40pero
34:40bilangin na
34:41natin
34:41yung
34:4158
34:42so
34:42I mean
34:45relate
34:46this
34:46development
34:47in
34:48barm
34:48itong
34:49promise
34:50to
34:51regulate
34:51traditional
34:53dynasties
34:54to what
34:55happened
34:55in
34:552009
34:56sa
34:57Maguindanao
34:59Opo
34:59two levels
35:00po siya sir
35:01one is on the level
35:02of law enforcement
35:03and the second one
35:04is on the cultural aspect
35:05doon sa law enforcement
35:09nanyari po yun siya sir
35:10because of
35:10itong tinatawag natin
35:11na private
35:12armies
35:12alam naman natin yan
35:14mas worse
35:14dito po sa aming banda
35:15because of the
35:17because of the
35:18Bang Saburo struggle
35:19na grabe ang
35:21yes
35:21future of
35:22violence
35:22ng
35:23Bang Saburo people
35:24ito po siya sir
35:25malaking challenge
35:26dito sa barm
35:26in the
35:28in the aspect of
35:28in the aspect of
35:29law enforcement
35:30paano masasabi na
35:31ito pong
35:32na election
35:32na ito
35:33nanalo sa election
35:33ito
35:34ay successful
35:34itong barm na ito
35:36is a model
35:36to be
35:37to be
35:38you know
35:38to be followed
35:39okay
35:39ay doon
35:40doon sir
35:41sa pagwasak
35:42sa itong private
35:43armies
35:43nagiging worse
35:44than dynastic families
35:45because of itong
35:46itong
35:47itong private
35:47armies
35:48so on the
35:49law enforcement
35:49level
35:50ito pong
35:50napakalaking
35:51challenge sa barm
35:51paano po
35:52ma-address
35:54ito po yung
35:55ito po yung
35:56private armies
35:57on the
35:58on the cultural
35:58aspect
35:59dyan napapasok po sir
36:00yung
36:01ano ko po
36:01yung peace building
36:02okay
36:03po
36:04ay kinakailangan
36:05natin
36:05ma-inject
36:06dyan
36:06ang peace building
36:06isa
36:07okay
36:08ito po
36:08challenge ito
36:09sa
36:09roars lang
36:10barn
36:11paano niya
36:12ma-strengthen
36:13ang mechanism
36:13of peace building
36:14that peace
36:16that only
36:17not only
36:18survives today
36:18but it will
36:19survive for
36:20generations
36:21ang mahirap
36:22ang mahirap po
36:22sir
36:22howie
36:23ay kapag
36:24hindi
36:24self-sustaining
36:25and peace
36:26peace today
36:26war tomorrow
36:27peace the other
36:28day
36:28so there
36:29is a cycle
36:29of war
36:30and peace
36:30ano po
36:31ang maka-address
36:32dyan
36:32so
36:32bakit po
36:33nangyari
36:33yun
36:34because of
36:34this
36:35tinatawag
36:35namin
36:35na
36:35cultural
36:36violence
36:36the
36:37more
36:37people
36:38prefer to
36:38have
36:39guns
36:39rather than
36:39having
36:40foods
36:40mas okay
36:41pa sa amin
36:42na mayroon
36:42kaming baril
36:42kaysa mayroon
36:43kaming kalabaw
36:44na makatrabaho
36:45doon sa
36:46field
36:46or mayroon
36:47kaming source
36:48of ano
36:48dyan
36:48halibawa
36:49basakan
36:49wala po sa amin
36:50basta may baril
36:51lang okay na
36:52this is a
36:53cultural violence
36:53challenge po ito
36:55sa mga
36:55elected officers
36:56ng farm
36:56na yun
36:57na talagang
36:59inaasam-asam
37:00po nila yan
37:01so
37:02they exerted
37:02all wins
37:03possible
37:03in order to
37:04get elected
37:05ito po
37:05na para
37:06yun po
37:06ay magkaroon
37:07ng cultural
37:08revolution
37:08na maalis
37:09po yun siya
37:10sir
37:10na perspective
37:11ang magkapasok
37:12po sa
37:13especially
37:13young generation
37:14of buros
37:15instead of
37:15cultural violence
37:16ay it's
37:17not in time
37:17for us
37:18to have
37:18a culture
37:18of peace
37:19so
37:20people outside
37:21of Muslim
37:22Mindanao
37:22are going
37:23to closely
37:24observe this
37:25so in
37:26concrete terms
37:27what needs
37:28to happen
37:29in
37:30BARM
37:30in the
37:31Bangsamoro
37:32autonomous
37:33region of
37:33Muslim
37:33Mindanao
37:34for
37:36people in
37:37the rest
37:37of the
37:37country
37:38to say
37:38they're on
37:39the right
37:39path
37:41the parliamentary
37:42system
37:43as we're
37:44seeing
37:44in
37:44BARM
37:45is working
37:47and we
37:48should
37:48experiment
37:49as well
37:50we should
37:50apply this
37:51model
37:51for the rest
37:52of the
37:53Philippines
37:53what needs
37:54to happen
37:54in BARM
37:55on the
37:56ground
37:56for people
37:57to say
37:58that
37:58only two
38:00number one
38:01I don't
38:02have peace
38:03and order
38:03number two
38:05I don't
38:06have
38:06development
38:06output
38:08if the
38:09one can
38:09discipline
38:09for example
38:10this
38:12widespread
38:14private
38:15armies
38:15because
38:17kapag
38:17napakaraming
38:18BARM
38:18no rule
38:19of law
38:20no
38:20transparency
38:21no
38:22accountability
38:22immunity
38:23everything
38:25itong problema
38:27so yun lang
38:27titingnan nila
38:28kapag po
38:29makita nila
38:30doon
38:31pwede lang
38:32maghawag ng
38:33BARM
38:33ay only the
38:34legitimate
38:34law enforcers
38:35of the
38:35government
38:36yun po
38:36isa yung
38:37success
38:37parton
38:38ikalawa po
38:39ay doon
38:39sa development
38:40dapat makita
38:41natin doon
38:42na may
38:42development
38:43hindi po
38:44mabahiran
38:44ng corruption
38:47hindi
38:47rational
38:49hindi
38:49equitable
38:50again
38:51hindi po
38:52equality
38:52ang basis
38:53it should be
38:53equitable
38:54distribution
38:54of resources
38:55yun po
38:56sir
38:56and
38:56eventually
38:57everything
38:58shall follow
38:58itong
38:59buhay ng
39:00bangsa
39:00mga people
39:01may elevate
39:01there is
39:02now
39:02stability
39:03there is
39:04the life
39:04the bangsa
39:05mga people
39:05shall live
39:05a comfortable
39:06life
39:06yun po
39:07wala ng
39:08mga
39:08massacres
39:09wala ng
39:09mga
39:10barilan
39:10okay
39:13ano na
39:13ang economy
39:14ang incidence
39:15of poverty
39:16ay mawala
39:17there is
39:17massive
39:17employment
39:18okay
39:19maganda
39:19ng pag-aral
39:19ng mga
39:20kata
39:20yun po
39:20ang angari
39:21natin
39:21lahat
39:22okay
39:22yun po
39:23ayaw po
39:24sir
39:24na makasuffer
39:25ng
39:25nasuffer
39:25ko
39:26yung
39:26apu
39:26ko
39:27okay
39:27kaya nga
39:28po
39:28nag-aral
39:29ako
39:29sir
39:29Howie
39:30that vision
39:31of a
39:32much
39:32better
39:33situation
39:33in
39:34Mindanao
39:35is a
39:36great note
39:36to end
39:37on
39:37and we
39:38want to
39:38thank you
39:38Dr. Zainal
39:41Kulidto
39:42the political
39:42science
39:42professor at
39:43Mindanao
39:43State University
39:44in Marawi
39:46and we
39:47want to
39:47join you
39:48in
39:48your
39:49relief
39:50as well
39:51that
39:51this part
39:52of the
39:53process
39:53is over
39:54and
39:54we look
39:56forward
39:56to
39:56observing
39:57what
39:57happens
39:58next
39:58in
39:59Barm
39:59with
39:59the
40:00new
40:00parliament
40:00and
40:01what
40:01it's
40:01going
40:01to
40:01do
40:02and
40:02whether
40:03it's
40:03really
40:03going
40:03to
40:04improve
40:04conditions
40:04for
40:06the
40:06people
40:06in
40:07Muslim
40:07Mindanao
40:08and
40:08people
40:08in
40:09Mindanao
40:10and people
40:10in the
40:10Philippines
40:11in general
40:11kasi
40:12nga
40:12magiging
40:13modelo
40:13kayo
40:13kung
40:15magsasucceed
40:16nga
40:16o hindi
40:16itong
40:17experimento
40:18sa
40:18parliamentary
40:20system
40:20of
40:21government
40:22so
40:23maraming
40:23maraming
40:23salamat
40:24mabuhay
40:24mabuhay
40:25po
40:25kayo
40:25Dr.
40:26Zainal
40:28Kalidod
40:29and
40:30be safe
40:31always
40:32Sir
40:33Howie
40:33thank you
40:33very much
40:34it is
40:34a rare
40:35opportunity
40:36for me
40:36to be
40:37interviewed
40:37by
40:37Howie
40:38Thank you
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