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03:27Good evening, Trinidad and Tobago international audience, and our brothers and sisters in Grenada.
03:32This is Beyond the Tape.
03:34I'm your host, Whitney Husbands.
03:36Now let's talk about the weird weather conditions that we are seeing in the Port of Spring.
03:40It's very strange, and we could say today was fairly okay for many of us.
03:45It wasn't that hot, and we didn't see much rain.
03:48We get a little drizzled here and there, but nonetheless, we were able to still function.
03:52But persons can't say that when we head to the southern side of Trinidad at Makulay, where the flooding took
04:00over.
04:00And let me tell you, this is something that I dread when rain falls, because rain should feel like a
04:05beautiful thing for us to relax, not to go through stress.
04:08So to the families, members who live in that said area, I'm hoping that persons could band together and find
04:17a way to assist these persons who have been seriously affected.
04:21And this is what is traumatic when we see rainfall for some persons in certain areas, because you just never
04:27know if flood could just be at your doorstep.
04:31So, I mean, we really hope that things could work out there.
04:35So as we move right along today, it's Thursday.
04:37So, of course, joining me, who is always willing, and one of our favorite officers on the show, and one
04:42of my favorite co-hosts as well, I have to say that, ASB Russell.
04:45Good evening to you, sir.
04:46Good evening, Ms. Husbands. Good evening, Trinidad and Tobago, Grenada, the U.S., Canada.
04:53You have to include the U.S. and Canada.
04:55Well, I realize that after your trip.
04:56Yes, and all our international viewers out there, as usual, it's a pleasure being here.
05:01Good evening on behalf of our Commissioner of Police, Deputy Commissioners, Assistant Commissioners, and First and Second Division officers of
05:07the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service, as usual.
05:11It's that time. You're here. You ready to go? Ready, set, go?
05:14Well, once you show up, you have to be ready, Ms. Husbands.
05:17All right, so we're getting ready. Today is a big day because of, as of midnight tonight, you know what
05:21we hear that saying?
05:22As of midnight tonight.
05:23Tonight, there is no more SOE. Where are we with that?
05:27Because I understand, which you will touch on shortly, there are some changes coming.
05:32Yeah, yeah.
05:35You know, well, we continue, the TTP has continued, the opposition Resolute Shield.
05:39Yes.
05:39Where we continue to focus our resources on the dismantling of criminal gangs and crime suppression throughout the country.
05:46Wherever you are, we are coming.
05:48We are not afraid to execute.
05:50Well, now we go back to gathering the warrants and stuff like that.
05:53But we are ready to continue the heavy enforcement, the multi-pronged approach to crime reduction, looking not only just
06:02at communities and hard-line policing,
06:06but soft-line policing, going back into the communities, seeing what are the needs of the communities, partnering with the
06:12public, going to the schools.
06:13So, you know, we're trying to capture all.
06:15So, it's not just about hard-line policing, but it's about policing that could transcend through generations so that we
06:22could really,
06:23whilst we're cleaning up on top here, we could nip it in the bud for those who are coming with
06:29the intentions of joining those at the top.
06:31And, of course, we want the public support and we need the family support and we need the prayers and
06:36we need all these things that come together
06:39so that we can all enjoy our safe for Trinidad and Tobago.
06:41So, we are here, we are by no means scared or wary of the ending of the SOE because we
06:48function before the SOE and we continue to function after the SOE.
06:53So, today being the last day of the SOE, we were able to get some words from DCP of Operation
06:59Susan Martin on the policing operation.
07:02So, let's take a listen.
07:04As the state of emergency, one of 2026, comes to an end,
07:09I want to assure the people of Trinidad and Tobago that the Trinidad and Tobago police service remains ready, visible,
07:19and responsive.
07:20The end of the state of emergency does not mean the end of our commitment to public safety.
07:30It means we transition to a sustained intelligence-led and community-focused policing posture.
07:39Under Operation Watchtower 2026, the watch continues.
07:47Our three micro-police units will serve as operational anchors, supporting police visibility, rapid response, intelligence gathering, community engagement, and
08:04targeted operations.
08:07Our message is simple, we must be visible, we must be alert, we must be ready, but safer communities cannot
08:21be achieved by the police service alone.
08:25It requires partnership.
08:29We need our communities to continue engaging with us, sharing information, and working alongside our officers.
08:40We need our national security partners, government agencies, local authorities, private sector stakeholders, and community organizations to continue working with
08:59us.
09:01To the men and women of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service, I extend my sincere appreciation for your service,
09:12commitment, and sacrifice throughout the state of emergency.
09:18I also thank the Trinidad and Tobago Prison Service, Trinidad and Tobago Defense Force, our partner agencies, and all stakeholders
09:30who supported this national security effort.
09:36Your service matters.
09:39Your partnership matters.
09:41And together, we can make our communities safer.
09:47As we move forward, our approach remains grounded in the law, intelligence, evidence, professionalism, and respect for the people we
09:59serve.
10:01The state of emergency may end.
10:05Our responsibility to public safety does not.
10:13And together, police and community, we will continue working for a safer Trinidad and Tobago.
10:24And that's the voice, of course, of DCP Operation Suzette Martin.
10:29And I want to speak on something quickly here, ASB Russell, where it comes to some changes that we're seeing
10:37that may more than likely be proposed a special operations bill known as the SOB.
10:42Now, according to the Daily Express, hours before the state of emergency was set to expire, Prime Minister Kamala Bishad
10:49Bishasa yesterday unveiled legislation, the special operations bill, which is SOB 2026, aimed to continuing targeted operations against gangs, guns,
11:01and drugs.
11:02Now, the bill is similar to the zone of special operations, we all know it as the SOB, but it
11:11contains a number of amendments.
11:12So, unlike the SOB, this bill does not require a three-fifths majority vote for passage and therefore can be
11:21passed with government's simple majority.
11:23I also want to mention here that it states with regards to enhanced search powers on curfew, it will establish
11:31policing districts in which police officers may conduct special operations supported by the defense force when necessary.
11:40The Prime Minister also stated that the Commission of Police will appoint a head of special operations for each district.
11:47The chief of defense staff will appoint a head of military assistance wherever defense force support is required.
11:56She also explained within that area, the authorities may establish cordons, impose curfews, regulate entry and departure,
12:05and exercise enhanced powers of search, seizure, arrest, and detention subject to judicial oversight.
12:14ASP.
12:17Well, if we await the outcome, I mean, the bill must go through its stages, but I want to just
12:23reflect a little bit on what Deputy Commissioner of Police, Ms. Susan Martin, said.
12:28Yes.
12:28We spoke about, it's a multi-agency, multi-pronged approach, so you recognize that we have the support of the
12:36defense force and other stakeholders, right?
12:38She even asked for the commitment from the private stakeholders.
12:41We are looking at being visible, more visible, more visibility, alert, ready, and as I mentioned before, the community partnership
12:50aspect of it.
12:51That is an integral part of it.
12:54The community has to understand we need your assistance in policing and policing successfully.
13:00Yes.
13:00Because you yourself have a responsibility.
13:03And I know a lot of persons are hearing the word intelligence-led and wondering.
13:07For those who are wondering, intelligence-led meaning is that it's information that we receive, maybe from the public or
13:13through our analysis, that has been analyzed and sanitized so we understand it's not just about there's a block down
13:20the road.
13:20It's a block down the road on the corner of this street and that street, ran by X, Y, and
13:26Z, who drives a white car and hides the stuff in the bush behind.
13:30So when we have that, that is what is the intelligence, where we could get the direct thing, having received
13:36the raw information from the public so we could tell them who is involved, who is the partners, who are
13:41the associates, vehicles used for transport, areas that they use to hide, and the operations.
13:46So that when we go in, we not just lock up a push-up, but we dismantle everything and organization.
13:53I want to mention this as well where the Prime Minister said there will be a monthly report that must
13:57be submitted to the Prime Minister and the ministers responsible for the police service and defense.
14:02So they're making sure that they're on top of things.
14:05And speaking of that, we had something really, I shouldn't say interesting, but great that we are waiting to see
14:10happen today.
14:10Even though at midnight tonight we are seeing no more SOE, we are seeing three locations officially opening today.
14:17Or open, I should say, as we speak, it's operating in the Turuba area, Grand Bazaar, right?
14:22And also at Eddie Hart Grounds.
14:24Now this location here, this is in the Turuba area.
14:28So you see it's active.
14:30Proposants were saying they were only seeing security guards.
14:33No more!
14:34There are no more security guards.
14:36There you are seeing the police officers there along with the Defense Force members.
14:41And today we're seeing the Minister of Homeland Security, the Honorable Roger Alexander, along with the Commissioner of Police, Mr.
14:49Alistair Guevara, that's there.
14:51And we saw we were able, ASP, to get a tour of this from the minister before this officially opened.
15:00This here is at Grand Bazaar location.
15:03Again, I believe this is DCP, Suzette Martin, we are seeing this.
15:07Yes, that's Ms. Archie.
15:08And you have Assistant Commissioner of Police, Ms. Afina Butler.
15:13Yes.
15:14A senior sub-daily there.
15:17Yes.
15:19So it's operating.
15:20And it's operating.
15:21And you know, I want persons to...
15:22Not forgetting Eddie Hart, we don't have, you put it with Eddie Hart, but Eddie Hart is functioning as well.
15:26Yes.
15:26So a lot of persons were asking, when are we starting those?
15:29And I want persons to give it an opportunity to work so that we can really feel that sense of
15:36safety, because we understand the fear of crime is a serious thing as well.
15:41And what I like about it, Ms. Husbands, because while some persons were criticizing it, there are a lot of
15:46persons who are calling, be it anonymously or otherwise, to ask for a post in their particular area.
15:51Because they, too, know that the police presence brings with it a particular level of feeling of safety.
15:59I even ask.
16:00And we commend them for asking.
16:02And as they need be, we will continue to roll out more across the country.
16:06Because a safe action that on Tobago...
16:09It's blessed all of us.
16:11All of us.
16:11Of course.
16:12Most definitely.
16:13Now, could we have to flip the script?
16:15What is that about?
16:16Because I understand yesterday, it was a really nice moment that was shared.
16:20And this initiative is what exactly?
16:22All right.
16:22So, Ms. Husbands, we have seen the behaviors of some in the schools.
16:31Yes.
16:31With respect to the school fights and otherwise.
16:33We know bullying is something that didn't start last year or year before, but has been taking place.
16:39What we are doing, we are actively putting systems into place so that we can reduce these instances and really
16:46have the students change their trajectory.
16:49So, the flip the script really is about assisting the youths in rewriting their story.
16:56The next chapter is theirs.
16:58So, it's now simply an anti-bullying campaign.
17:01It is a youth violence prevention and long-term engagement strategy, Ms. Husbands, not something we start today to finish
17:08tomorrow.
17:09The central idea is simple.
17:12Young people can change their direction of their lives when they are given credible alternatives, sustained support, and people who
17:22remain invested in them.
17:23The initiative builds on earlier 2012, be a body, not a bully campaign, but expands the intervention to address wider
17:33factors now contributing to violence and antisocial behavior among young people.
17:39Since the original proposal was developed, a new component, Mentorship Matters, has been added.
17:47This strengthens the long-term support available to students by connecting them with positive, positive, positive male mentors in the
17:58police service through the men's bureau.
18:00Yes.
18:00And, you know, we recently launched a men's bureau under Deputy Commissioner of Police, Mr. Benjamin.
18:06Yes.
18:07And we are using the males there to really go forward and show that positivity in the schools so that
18:13we can have the children change their behavior.
18:16It's a multi-pronged youth violence prevention and engagement campaign, and we are focusing on 17 priority schools.
18:23We have key partners such as the Community-Oriented Policing Unit, the TGPS band, where we're trying to do discipline
18:32by teaching children to use instruments.
18:34I wanted to go on an instrument.
18:35I told them that yesterday.
18:36I'm reaching to see.
18:37Of course, of course, we have the Mentorship Matters component by DCP Benjamin, who's the head of the men's bureau.
18:42So, we also have school activations, the anti-bullying, anti-gang interventions, positive messages supported by a lived experience.
18:53We're trying to get persons who found themselves on the other side of the law, but would have changed their
18:59lives so that they can inspire that hope and encouragement to show a person that if I could turn my
19:06life around, all is in loss.
19:07You know, so it's really about a positive movement towards the children.
19:11We cannot have that constant recidivism and reoccurrence and re-offending.
19:18Those priority offenders are continuing.
19:20We need to stop that.
19:21So, we're nipping at anybody, and the anti-bullying campaign is just one of them, and I'm very passionate about
19:26it.
19:27Because I've been around some of the planning stages, I want to say full respect to all involved, the Ms.
19:35Archie, the head corp call, Mr. Benjamin, the commissioner for his continued support, ACP Maynard, who was there yesterday, all
19:43the permanent secretaries, all the ministers involved, Mr. Ali, Director Paxo.
19:50You know, there are a lot of persons involved, head of the National Parent Teachers Association, head of tutor, a
19:58lot of them gave their support yesterday, and we are doing a good thing, people.
20:02We are doing a good thing, and all we want is the community, the public, to do their part.
20:07Just do your part, and as little as it is, you know, Mr. Osborne, if everybody do a little bit,
20:11you know, the kind of Trinidad, we will have, I'll be excited.
20:14Trinidad, and this is what I want.
20:16But see, when you travel, they recognize the gem that you're in there, and Tobago, isn't it?
20:20Yes, that's sweet.
20:20Nobody else, they have nothing on which one of that.
20:22Remember, I'll tell you that.
20:23At all, of course, we'll give you more, flip the script, but right now, it's time for us, our final
20:28SOE update, as of September 17, 2026.
20:33Number of operations, 13,486.
20:37Number of target priority offenders, 3,443.
20:41Searches conducted, 4,643.
20:44Traffic operations, 8,410.
20:48Total persons arrested, 5,989.
20:52Total persons charged, 1,419.
20:57Firearms recovered, we're seeing no increase there, but a total of 325.
21:02Ammunition recovered, we're seeing increase with 9mm, also the 5.56, along with the 7.63, giving us a total
21:11of 6,774.
21:13And dangerous drug sees, we're seeing, again, the increase with cannabis and cocaine, SP.
21:18Well, we have no fire, I'm still there, but we have ammunition and dangerous drugs.
21:22You look a bit disappointed there.
21:23It's not really disappointment.
21:24I mean, every day is fishing there, but not every day is catching there.
21:28So, I understand that.
21:29However, we saw significant increases as well, because every wrong that you recover is a life saved.
21:34Yes.
21:35Yeah?
21:35So, we saved lives, and we got some more drugs off the street.
21:40So, we take the small wins, the medium-sized wins, and we relish in the big wins.
21:44So, let's start quickly on the comparative of the year that we saw here for 2025 and 2026, with the
21:51murders.
21:52Let's be clear, the murders.
21:53All right.
21:54So, we're looking at homicide as of Thursday, the 17th of September, 2026, comparative.
22:00For 2025, for the same period, we had 268 murders.
22:06For 2026, we have 255 thus far.
22:13So, we are experiencing somewhat of a decrease.
22:18Not what the people want, but it's a...
22:20Listen, I understand it's not what the people want, and that's why we continue to improve and do better.
22:27That's why I've seen all these sorts of different bills come into fruition.
22:30But the people have to understand that they have a responsibility as well.
22:37So, if you know with the young boy hiding the gun, tell us, please.
22:41So, it will be harder for him to commit a crime.
22:43If you know who did the shooting last week, Anonymous Hotline 555-800-TIPS.
22:50If you know who running the stolen car ring and selling the hybrid batteries back, or who buying them, tell
22:56us, please.
22:57We will touch on that more shortly, but right now, let's take a look at what's making today's headlines.
23:03Let's take a look at what's making today's headlines.
23:31Let's take a look at what's making today's headlines.
23:42And those are your stories making today's headlines.
23:44We'll take that short break.
23:44We'll be back.
23:47Mommy, Kevon, girl, trouble.
23:49I'm telling you, you remember your bigger one that you didn't send you a few years ago, Cohen?
23:55Mommy, I don't know what to say again, you know.
23:58When Kevon was in Form 1, he was nice to bad potential like that, Mommy.
24:04He reached Form 2.
24:05He started a gamble.
24:07He started a cuss.
24:08He taxed people cheering.
24:10Getting into a set of wrong crowd, Mommy.
24:14Kevon, you feel me?
24:15I know you're selling marijuana at the school compound.
24:18What trouble is that?
24:20You want to end up in Aruka, in Golden Grove?
24:22You go ahead.
24:24Go ahead.
24:24But that would not be your story, sir.
24:27That is not your story.
24:29No matter how much detention and how much community service ending you're getting, you have to change.
24:35It's time for Mr. Kevon to flip the script.
24:40Flip the Script is a multi-pronged campaign focusing on the 17 priority schools.
24:46The initiative is led by the Community Relations Secretariat and includes the Community-Oriented Policing Unit,
24:53the TDPS Band, the Police Youth Clubs, and the Mounted and Canine Branch.
24:59The TDPS, working with schools, families, and communities to break the cycle of violence
25:06and start a new chapter in the lives of young people.
25:11Mommy, we are going to help Kevon rewrite his story.
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27:53And welcome back.
27:55If you're now joining us, of course, we have ASP Russell here with us.
27:58And ASP, we're very passionate speaking about Flip the Script.
28:01And for persons who miss what you mention, let's take in some highlights of the official
28:04launch of Flip the Script.
28:17It is indeed my pleasure to welcome each of you to this very important occasion.
28:24The launch of the Flip the Script and be a buddy, not a bully initiative.
28:34School safety is not only an educational issue.
28:39It's a community issue.
28:41And because it's a community issue, it's a policing issue.
28:47The Trinidad and Tobago Police Service recognizes its responsibilities in this regard.
28:52Today, the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service, under the leadership of our commissioner, wants
29:00to help our young citizen to rewrite their story.
29:09Flip the Script ensures that resources are directed where they have the greatest impact, transforming
29:19evidence into action and prevention into long-term rehabilitation.
29:28When we think about crime prevention, we often think about police controls, security cameras, or stricter laws.
29:35But true prevention starts much earlier.
29:40It starts by giving young people a purpose, a passion, and a place to belong.
29:45Music education provides exactly that.
29:52Our children are not problems to be managed.
29:55They are young people to be understood, guided, and given of their chance.
30:02This is why I fully endorse the Flip the Script initiative of the TTPS.
30:08Its message is simple.
30:10The story does not have to end the way it began.
30:17When we say Flip, for us, Flip is not just a word.
30:24It's an acronym that I want you to go with.
30:27Because Flip, to me, stands for, first of all, we will focus on positive relationship.
30:36L is that we will lead by example.
30:40I is that we will inspire purpose and potential.
30:49And P, we will prevent violence and crime through positive partnership.
31:02And today, we choose purpose over destruction.
31:08We choose leadership over violence.
31:10We choose hope over hopelessness.
31:13It is time to flip the script for a better channel in Tobago.
31:22For this program, it really does not need to be a part of the
31:29public information officer of the TTPS.
31:32We need to complete pushings to come up with the funding of our program,
31:37Jeff the Fast andwoman.
31:52from the bottom of my heart
31:57look at my height
31:58I'm six foot two
32:00and people are trying to bully me every day on social media
32:07so as a victim
32:14I would just like to say thank you all
32:17each of you individually
32:20and the organizations you represent
32:22for partnering with the TTPS
32:25in trying to make a difference
32:27and bringing our nation back
32:29through engagement with our youth
32:55I mean I can't sing like him but flip the script clearly was a success we saw some of the
32:59highlights there
33:01and I just want the public to see how much steps the police are taking
33:04how much resources we are using
33:06to go not just for hard line policing
33:11but in the communities and in the schools
33:12and I just want to leave a close in the mark
33:14flip the script is more than just a school campaign
33:17it creates pathways for sustained interventions
33:21police youth clubs provide belonging
33:23mentorship matters
33:26provides guidance
33:27the junior police band provides discipline
33:30and opportunity
33:31and the TTPS and its partners are giving young people
33:36practical opportunities to choose a different direction
33:41message I'm leaving to you today is rewrite your story
33:46the next chapter is yours
33:48all right uh we take that break when we come back we will continue with more
33:52too ugly
33:54too fat
33:57too dark
33:59too skinny
34:00too quiet
34:03too weird
34:05we all know
34:07that not only fists
34:08but wounds
34:09can beat you down
34:11you don't have to believe what the police say you are
34:14you can become whoever you choose to be
34:16never alone lies on the cells to stop you from shining
34:20it's time to make a change
34:22be a body
34:23not a body
34:25tell someone
34:26be a body
34:26be a body
34:37not a body
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39:11Yes, indeed.
40:05Definitely.
42:00could call you back because again it's a call log yes but there are times we would need to verify
42:05certain things but I can assure you when it comes to 555 and 800 tips even said there's a call
42:12log
42:12we do not know who the number belongs no all right so I I witnessed an accident and I called
42:22the TGPS right I call 555 999 999 would not anonymous I call 999 right and they needed
42:34more information and I get a call back from 999 from 999 with 999 will call you back hence the
42:42reason
42:42we say 555 800 tips however we need the public to trust us as well so we say if you
42:48call 999 and
42:49they call it back for further information it remains there it's not they're going to see
42:55you see and and the more information because remember to the public we don't want to stop
43:00the public from giving information but we had to make sure that we elicit the right things so we
43:03could know remember the police officers are human beings as well so I need to know if I telling you
43:08respond what are you responding to so we have different codes orange white red so we need to
43:17know if we send the new tent our situation a home invasion of men I'm at fire money compound of
43:21XYZ home
43:22whereas a neighbor give it two streets only or somebody pass and see the men going in the yard
43:26that we give the police as much information as possible so that they can go into the situation
43:32but the utmost level of preparedness you know what you're going to face you have an idea so you know
43:37you're going in you're going in active yeah but we also have to be very careful to as well ESB
43:43when it
43:44comes to the trust again where person's calling and they're saying well so and so call but we need
43:48to take that break we take that break and we'll come back with the conversation on yeah
43:54as a teacher teaching how much years I never see it on a subject called bullying on a timetable yet
44:02but all them children want to beat up other children instead of beating the book and to me
44:09that is big big failure I promise to do my part to stop the bullying in the people and them
44:17school
44:18but you see parents you see uncles you see grannies you see aunties you see nenens all of them and
44:25all of you
44:25all you have to help out too all you have to teach them the right way boy they have to
44:31choose peace
44:32not physical and verbal violence teach them to be a body not a bully tell somebody
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46:00education for me to be able to read properly I want to be able to be independent
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46:12it's like this thing is tripping off but since I joined Alta and I started to read and thing about
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46:43we like you consider running in the upcoming elections me how could you how could you do this thing Sharon
46:56tell me Calvin are you a good lover I feed you and it's my religion have you alive up to
47:06today
47:08we even went on our first days together but we are not going to jail together we have to talk
47:14about this
47:14I don't want to talk about it
47:22that woman is having my husband's job
47:25there are no boundaries
47:28all the boundaries of color
47:31passion love and human emotions collide with absolutely
47:36no boundaries
47:51and welcome back remember you can give us a call at 623-1711 extension 1996 or 1997 of course we
47:58have one of our favorite officers here with us ASP Russell
48:01now I know that we were speaking before we went to the break with persons trying to be anonymous when
48:08giving information when they do call 999 in particular because the other numbers which is 800 tips which is a
48:16another entity and 555 it's one way strictly anonymous and give you an ID number right let's be clear on
48:23that so there's no way of knowing you call as any person's name and all of that but you were
48:28saying before we went to the break when you call 999 and they do call you back it's for a
48:33reason
48:33it's for a reason it's for a reason it's to get more information on what you supply so that we
48:37know what situation we are sending the officers into sometime we you may call to report a robbery but you
48:45may be traumatized as well we may need to find out what direction the men went in and you know
48:51we have to understand the difference with giving information and making a report because you know one of the problems
48:57that we have heard that one of the criticism of the TPS is that we don't do follow up or
49:02we don't give feedback
49:03true and this is where we need a contact number from you to give feedback so the men will apprehend
49:09it so we may check in the area so do what is a report and how does that work if
49:16you have to communicate with the person making the report
49:19all right so when you look at report reporters you may be reporting let's say loud music right nowadays principle
49:26of natural justice where a man must know his accuser so if I'm accusing you of playing loud music
49:32and the police shows up to your house they will have to say we will not bonds they would not
49:39have to see but it would depend on the situation every report comes with its own merit okay let's say
49:44the situation where
49:46um you pay somebody for some jewelry right the person never delivered the jewelry of course I would start by
49:55good day sir I am xyz I'm investigating a report made by one
49:59a woman's husband's right who indicated that she paid you for some jewelry that you never delivered right that person
50:05will now give that well she only gave me 5% of the document when she was supposed to give
50:10me
50:1010% that is report a neighbor may choose to report something in no it has situations like a domestic
50:17violence right and it is incumbent and anybody in the neighborhood have a responsibility
50:25to notify to notify the police to notify the police to notify the police to notify the police right that
50:28is a report yes but based on the nature of the report we are not going to say
50:35x call and say you're beating okay yeah so I'm saying there are some situations where we would say hey
50:42this is what it is based on what has transpired
50:44your bonesy man car yeah it was an accident xyz the sensitivity level of sensitivity level of it is what
50:52we take into consideration because let's say something is
50:55happening the neighbor making report let me say in a case of domestic violence or child abuse may not be
51:01the neighbor living next door maybe the
51:03neighbor don't do I need to pause you for a sec because I understand we have a call and I
51:06don't want the caller to be waiting too long call us good evening we do apologize
51:10y'all can give us a call at 623 17 11 extension 1996 or 1997 we had to the phone
51:18lines at this time so let's see who's there with us good evening
51:24hi hello
51:25good evening sir
51:28good evening sir
51:31good evening sir
51:34good evening sir
51:46the police will have come on the scene quite sometimes the police will have come on the scene quite sometime
51:50after but I know that they have lots of things on the plate to deal with right
51:54and they would have come on the scene quite some time after
51:58and they will have said to me after they called me back that what was he doing what is he
52:06being pulled into of the report what he needed to be report
52:08so I told them what i played twice they get into collect drug loud music right so on so
52:13I saw they spoke to somebody, and apparently I only knew this after.
52:22They gave them my name.
52:25They gave them my name.
52:27I saw the person who was calling in connection with the report.
52:31I don't have to lie to this slide up here, but I didn't understand.
52:35I should have bodies above me.
52:37Let me tell you something, and these people, let me tell you something,
52:43but these neighbours would have given me a tongue-lashing,
52:49but with obscenities, and this, that's one after the other.
52:53Because the police would have relayed information to them,
52:56so who would have called in connection with the report?
52:58And let me tell you this, we need more professionalism to tell me.
53:03Right, because I'll tell you this, right, that was just a report of loud music, right?
53:07This is what I repeat.
53:09But let me tell you something more severe, no?
53:11You understand what I'm saying?
53:13Right, and I would just like to come up here, topical,
53:16and just make a statement about the police,
53:20about the police being in school.
53:21I think that is absolute nonsense, because I agree with the Prime Minister, right?
53:27So, throughout, if you want to use those, for lack of better words,
53:32you're unruly, because schools are in the atmosphere to learn to be educated,
53:36and to be prepared for tomorrow, all right?
53:39So, in the sense that those who don't want to call the school,
53:41I agree to them all.
53:43That is the strength of the police, unnecessarily.
53:46Because if your children have strength at one-two,
53:49which is one-quarter and two-quarter in every school,
53:52who do the police work, understand what I'm saying?
53:54All right.
53:55Right?
53:55And as for where it pertains to the police work,
53:58the police need to start acting more, right?
54:01I'm just talking.
54:02Right?
54:02Because I tell them,
54:03there's four boys before one boy will kill him,
54:06and then we'll get charged for murder,
54:07as juvenile school,
54:08and then we'll get charged for murder.
54:10So, there's four boys become one boy,
54:11I tell you in the hospital.
54:12Why not assault by detail?
54:14Why not assault by detail?
54:16We need to start charging people, right?
54:18And just appearance.
54:19Appearance is not everything.
54:20Right?
54:24That is not everything.
54:28All right.
54:29Thank you so much, Carla ASP.
54:31I mean, it's a lot.
54:33Well, let me see.
54:34I'm going to address some of the issues, right?
54:36Mm-hmm.
54:37And I understand what he would have experienced with respect to the loud music.
54:43All right.
54:44The officers could have said, you know,
54:46neighbors are calling or we are getting reports,
54:48multiple reports, so that you would not be able to pinpoint.
54:51So, sometimes we need to use a little more tact,
54:53maybe a little more tactful in our actions.
54:56Yes.
54:56Right?
54:56But there would still be some circumstances,
54:58like as I explained to you,
55:00you enter an interview with somebody and they fail to deliver.
55:02Correct.
55:03Where you would have to call the person's name, right?
55:06That aside, the anonymous lines are the anonymous lines.
55:09Correct.
55:10So, I don't want the public to think that we know who you are.
55:12We don't.
55:13You're given her ID numbers, Miss Husbands,
55:14so you could see that she has the information and she did some level of research.
55:17Yes, I did.
55:18But you are indeed given an ID number
55:19because a lot of those come with rewards as well.
55:22Mm-hmm.
55:22And there are persons sitting among you who would have enjoyed the rewards
55:25and not say anything.
55:27That being said, the police being in school is something that,
55:31due to the school violence, it emanates over a while
55:35and this is where we are now and this is what we have to deal with.
55:37But even if we take the child out of the school, we don't.
55:41An uneducated child may have no other choice than to still come up and become a criminal
55:47because what is his or her qualifications to obtain a job?
55:51So, even so, if we move them from the system, we must have some other thing to involve them
55:55and enroll them in whether it's trade or otherwise so that they cannot come up and earn on this dollar.
56:00All right.
56:01We have a final call.
56:02Call a good evening.
56:03Yeah.
56:04Hello, good evening.
56:05Hi.
56:05Good evening.
56:06Good evening, sir.
56:08Yeah.
56:09I'm currently working at a partner.
56:12Yes, sir.
56:15Sir, you're breaking up and we need some mutual television so we can hear you properly.
56:20It's not to fail.
56:22It's obviously difficult.
56:24It's usually difficult.
56:27The producers have shown to take the apartment and the nightly days.
56:30I realise that nothing happens in that.
56:35I just wait to have a whole system of talking to them machines.
56:41But one of those situations like another shift is that we are still looking at
56:45because the union is working.
56:47here okay all right you're seeing that he was speaking to a machine he called i'm not sure
56:54because he was breaking up a number that he was trying to i guess give information or make a
57:00report i'm not 100 but he said it was a machine that was responding to him i don't think we
57:06when
57:07i say we we have that in turn rather than to be when it comes to tps i am not
57:11sure which number
57:12he called um yeah we need to come back and just let us know so we can hear you clearly
57:20asp the floor is yours we have a few seconds before we exit well i want to to leave how
57:25i started you
57:25know it's about flip the script it's about using that initiative to really change to inspire the
57:32youth to change the trajectory of their lives uh where we use that male mentorship um which come
57:41out of the men's bureau birthed by dcp benjamin to go forward it's a multi-pronged approach you would
57:47see the police officers in school they would see us engaging in certain things we thank all the
57:53stakeholders publicly and privately for their engagement and involvement with respect to flip
57:59the script be a body not a bully thank you so much asp we get ready for news up next
58:05tnt and remember
58:06as of midnight tonight the xo e is officially over god bless continue being our targets we're out
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