00:00Do you know who was in the car with Erin
00:01when she talked her s***?
00:04I think it was some of the Salt Lake girls.
00:10I think it was some of the Jersey girls.
00:13I don't know for sure,
00:15because there were several buses
00:17that were going from the hotel to the venue.
00:21And were you guys in a bad place that night
00:24that she would be inspired to talk that kind of smack?
00:27I think that's the shocking part of all of this,
00:29is that, according to me, we were not.
00:32So the last time Erin and I had connected,
00:36we had an amazing lunch.
00:38Both of our fathers had just passed away
00:40within six months of each other.
00:41We had a great lunch,
00:43and we were not even talking about the show.
00:45We were just connecting on a level
00:48that I think was almost the first time for us,
00:53because we have kind of had this back and forth.
00:57We've had a lot of ebbs and flows in our relationship.
00:59But I walked away from that lunch
01:01feeling really good about where we were.
01:04And then, surprise!
01:06It's like, I'm fake, and I'm thirsty,
01:07and all that.
01:08I was like, wait, where is this coming from?
01:09It's also funny,
01:10because you're talking about
01:11how your guys' relationship seemingly
01:12got the most real ever,
01:15and that's when she starts to call you fake.
01:17Right.
01:18What did I do?
01:19It is insane, too,
01:20that when you even confronted her about it,
01:21she was like, no, I did say all that,
01:23but who told you?
01:24Yes.
01:24If that first instinct was,
01:26how did that get out?
01:27Because, you know,
01:29and it's really interesting,
01:30because I think the optics of just that
01:32is, like, telling, right?
01:34Did you appreciate,
01:35I guess there was a level of accountability there?
01:38She, like, very much admitted
01:40to saying those things.
01:41You are.
01:42Like, I mean, she owned it?
01:44I guess so, yeah.
01:45Right?
01:45She did own it.
01:46Yeah.
01:46Yeah, I think, look,
01:47the difference between Erin and I
01:49is, like, clearly, you know,
01:50I think I celebrate my friends,
01:53and I'm such,
01:54I truly do think that I'm a girl's girl.
01:56Like, if my friends are thriving,
01:57I'm not going to call them thirsty.
01:59I'm going to be like,
02:00wow, she's killing it.
02:01Erin, I think, on the other hand,
02:03has this, like, tendency to be like,
02:05well, she's thirsty,
02:06she's fake if she's doing well.
02:07Do you think it stems
02:08from a place of insecurity or jealousy?
02:10Is there, does she have, like,
02:11a competitive edge to her?
02:13Very much so.
02:14I think so.
02:14Yeah, I think so.
02:15Were there opportunities you were getting
02:17that you were, like,
02:18you could tell that she was kind of jealous about?
02:21Or?
02:21I mean, I've been getting it.
02:23Rolling Stone, honey.
02:24That is great.
02:25Season 14, off the back.
02:27Yeah, that is true.
02:28Well, you were a fan favorite from The Jump,
02:30and maybe she's,
02:31could she be jealous of that?
02:33I do feel like Erin maybe expected
02:36this to be go differently for her, maybe?
02:39I don't know.
02:40I have no idea.
02:41I think she presents as being supportive,
02:44but, like, you know,
02:45you sort of see her actions speak otherwise.
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