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'Maria' star Angelina Jolie and producer/director Pablo Larraín discuss how they connected to the heartbreaking true story of the world-renowned opera singer Maria Callas. Jolie explains that training to sing opera for seven months was the only way to honor Callas's talent and for the Oscar-winning actor to understand her tragic tale. Larraín, who directed the Academy Award-nominated performances of Kristen Stewart in 'Spencer' (2021) and Natalie Portman in 'Jackie' (2016), admits that he connects to Callas's story through his own hypochondriacal fear of losing his eyesight and his ability to make films.
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00:00Tell me how it felt to be on stage.
00:02An exultation.
00:04An intoxication.
00:06Maria Callas' life is so heartbreaking.
00:09The world's premiere opera singer
00:10no longer able to sing like she once could.
00:13How would you carry on if you were not able
00:16to perform or direct or create?
00:19Is it something you could connect to?
00:20Well, in some way, I went through a few years
00:23where I was unable to leave my home as much.
00:25I needed to be more with my family.
00:28You had to turn off certain aspects of yourself
00:30to be other things you need to be at times.
00:32And so I was reminded of how much being a creative person
00:35and having the connection to other creatives
00:38fed so much of my life and how important it was
00:40and how much I missed it.
00:42So, yes.
00:43But I think I've built a life very full,
00:46separate from being an artist, and she wasn't able to.
00:49So if it was all gone tomorrow and I was just a mom
00:52and I was just, you know, working in the field,
00:55I would be very happy. I'd be okay.
00:57Pablo, is that something you could connect to,
00:58or did that help unlock the character of Maria?
01:01Well, I think every person that is in this job
01:05has that fear, of course.
01:07And I'm a little bit of a hypochondriac,
01:10so every time I have an eye problem, I think,
01:13what if I go blind and I'm not able to do my work?
01:15You know, and I've never been there,
01:18but I try to connect with how painful would that be?
01:22Because, you know, in the case of a singer,
01:24a singer is someone that, of course, can put out a beautiful voice,
01:29but what they do really is they listen to that voice.
01:33So it's a physiological process where they end up listening to herself.
01:38And that is, I think, what happened to her.
01:40She stopped listening to herself.
01:42And she realized it.
01:44So it's a very private sort of process and a very painful one.
01:49And in these films used as a human device,
01:53as a specific problem where she's able to look back because of that.
01:58You trained for seven months to learn to sing opera.
02:02How did that evolve your understanding of Maria?
02:05And is it also something you'll continue doing, you know,
02:07just singing opera around the house?
02:10It's hard to just casually sing opera around the house, right?
02:12Just like when I do, the children were like,
02:15oh, she's doing that again.
02:16So the train, they certainly went through a lot.
02:20But yes, when no one's home now, yeah.
02:22There was no other way to understand who she was without studying the music
02:27because that's who she was.
02:29When she was a young teen, she was kind of raised by these great composers,
02:33these stories, these characters.
02:35This is what influenced her life, her understanding, her worldview,
02:40and to become also the technician she needed to be
02:42to understand the discipline it required.
02:45I learned so much about her and what it is to be an opera singer.
02:49It's a complete and full existence.
02:54Walk me a table at the cafe where the waiters know who I am.
02:58and I'm in the mood for adulation.
03:01Spending so much time with her,
03:03is there something that she taught you that you'll take into your own life?
03:06I think she helped me to remember how much I...
03:10There's often too much focus today on celebrity.
03:14So you almost hide from the art or sometimes being an artist
03:17because it comes with all this other...
03:20She reminded me how much I really do love,
03:24because I don't love all of that, but I love being an artist.
03:28And it's a great pleasure and privilege to be one
03:33and to communicate with an audience.
03:34And I do love it and I missed it.
03:37So we won't see you at the cafe waiting for adulation like Maria?
03:40No, that's not me.
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