00:00What I learned was, and it's a very humbling thing, is if you just let people, not just the brothers,
00:05but the fans, just when they talk, especially if they're emotional, the things they say are better than anything you'd
00:10ever write.
00:11Stephen, lovely to meet you.
00:12Mostly.
00:12I love a documentary that makes me feel something, which is what this did.
00:18I also particularly loved the lack of phone shots that somehow they managed to get in here because that is
00:23what concerts are ruined by these days.
00:26So I did love that.
00:27But this insight into the boys was just so wonderful.
00:31Was there ever, though, a moment where you were worried Liam wouldn't turn up for certain bits?
00:39Because I feel like that's what I got from him.
00:42No, I mean, you know, maybe I am an optimist.
00:46But having said that, having spoken to Liam, knowing what it meant to him, it says in the film, I'm
00:53not even going to look at a cigarette.
00:55I'm not even going to look at a drink.
00:57He was so committed to doing this.
01:00And so I always, I had no doubt.
01:02Were they, however, as blunt with you as they are with each other in the band?
01:07I think that is who they are and what they are.
01:10And it's why they are as well.
01:12Because they absolutely, if they say something, they mean it.
01:15Yeah.
01:15And nothing in this film, the idea that you might be able to stage something with them is quite hilarious.
01:22Because it would never happen, you know, because they are who they are.
01:25They say what they mean and they're not afraid to say it.
01:29But what that means is it's so great to do, when I interviewed the two of them, it's like almost
01:35everything they say you could put on a T-shirt.
01:38That's cute.
01:38You know, because it's always so funny and smart and insightful.
01:43So I just think they are natural speakers, which makes them natural performers, I think.
01:49How does it compare to, obviously you've done like Peaky Blinders and Thousand Blows and stuff, like doing shows like
01:55that and then coming on working with these guys.
01:58How do they compare?
01:59It's very different because what you're doing is dealing with the real thing, you know, real people.
02:03So when you're writing a script, you're in control of the three acts and you can make sure it's happy
02:09ending or not happy ending.
02:10With this, there's no way of knowing because it's up to the people.
02:13But what I learned was, and it's a very humbling thing, is if you just let people, not just the
02:18brothers but the fans, just when they talk, especially if they're emotional, the things they say are better than anything
02:24you'd ever write.
02:25Where some lady in South Korea says, when you fall over, some music picks you up.
02:31But with Oasis, they fall down with you and they get up with you.
02:34You think, wow.
02:35And she's in tears when she's saying that.
02:37Yeah.
02:37I think I just love how real they were because there's no one else quite like them that exists.
02:44For you, is there a band that has meant as much to you as the Stone Roses meant to them
02:49and like Oasis means to other people?
02:51Yeah, I mean, Oasis means a lot to me because as a writer, the words of the songs always stuck
02:58with me.
02:58I think they're beautifully crafted and written.
03:02Me, myself, I wasn't really into bands so much, but people like Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen were the people who,
03:10because of the words of the songs, the way they're written, that's what's always appealed to me.
03:16What was your opinion of them going into it versus what it was at the end of making them?
03:22Um, I, I always thought they would be outspoken.
03:25I always thought they'd be eloquent, which they were.
03:27Um, I feel I'm from a similar place to them, a similar background to them.
03:32And so I sort of get, you know, where they're from, but also having lots of brothers and sisters, that
03:39brother-sister relationship, brother-brother relationship is something I've got.
03:43But what I wasn't expecting from the first moment, someone said, when you have a meeting with them, they will
03:51always be early.
03:52Um, and they work really, really hard.
03:56They have this work ethic, which is so not what you'd expect from rock and roll.
04:00They have this work ethic where they just work and work and work to make sure it's right.
04:04And when they first made it, it was a consequence of the fact they didn't, you know, mess about.
04:09They just actually got together and worked on the songs until they were perfect.
04:13So, yeah, that was, that was a pleasant surprise.
04:16How many of the concerts did you manage to get out to?
04:19Uh, three of the, yeah.
04:20Which was your favourite?
04:21Yeah, Cardiff.
04:22The first concert, Cardiff, is the moment when I think we, making the film, and the band themselves realised this
04:33is something that we weren't expecting.
04:36Because, uh, you know, as soon as the tickets went on sale, it became apparent that these tickets are not
04:42just being bought by the people who were there originally.
04:44There's another generation taking part in this.
04:47And it turned out that the younger generation were the bulk of the audience.
05:19Yeah.
05:20And the moment where that song is being played live, they're on the bridge, and they're hugging, and they're crying,
05:26and it was just incredibly emotional.
05:29And Noel said he had to turn his back often.
05:31Yeah.
05:32Because he was getting overwhelmed with emotion at seeing what was happening.
05:36I'm so glad we got to see the other side of it, honestly, because you have this opinion growing up
05:40with Oasis that they are a certain way, and it's really lovely to have seen this.
05:44Oh, yeah.
05:44Great people.
05:45So, yeah, good job with it as well.
05:47It's been lovely to meet you.
05:48Nice to meet you.
