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Senator-judge Erwin Tulfo on Monday questioned the prosecution’s plan to drop key witnesses Colonel Raymund Lachica and Colonel Dennis Nolasco, stressing the need to determine if Vice President Sara Duterte was involved in the alleged misuse of confidential funds. Presiding Officer Francis Escudero clarified that the Senate impeachment court may still summon the witnesses before rendering a verdict.

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00:00Forgive me, I didn't see you.
00:01What is the pleasure of Senator Judge Irvin Tulka?
00:03Mr. President, I have asked this question before, and I would like to ask it again.
00:09It seems like we're finishing Article 1 now.
00:13We're moving. We're talking about Articles, I think, 3 and 4.
00:20The question, Mr. President, I would like to ask the prosecution,
00:24are we going to see Colonel LaChica and Colonel Nolasco here?
00:30Because I've been reading in the newspaper and news online that the prosecution is saying
00:37that they do not need to present Colonel LaChica anymore in Nolasco.
00:41Well, in fact, Mr. President, all of us here, Senator Judges, would like to ask questions.
00:49Gusto po natin matanong si Colonel LaChica.
00:52Ano ba talaga? May kinalaman ba ang Vice President dito?
00:56May bas-bas ba siya?
00:58O binulsa mo lang, ikaw lang ang tumira ng lahat na yan.
01:02At wala namang kinalaman yung boss mo.
01:05We would like to ask the person himself, yung mga binigyan po ng pera,
01:10Mr. President, it's common sense.
01:13Binigyan kita ng pera, okay, binigay ng dispersing officer doon sa tao,
01:19tapos pinaperman niya kung sino-sino.
01:21Gusto natin malaman na baka sila lang nag-usap-usap.
01:25Wala namang alam doon sa taas, di ba?
01:27So we'd like to cross-examine him here.
01:30Gusto po natin siya matanong.
01:32Ganon din po si Colonel Nolasco.
01:35Pupwede ba yun, Mr. President, if the prosecution is not intending anymore
01:40or do not have plans to present them here,
01:44Lachica and Nolasco.
01:45Pupwede ba ang korte mismo magpatawag sa kanila para matanong din namin si Lachica at Nolasco
01:52na ikaw, lahat kayong dalawa ay tinuturo na lahat ng ito.
01:57Gusto namin, gusto natin malaman, Mr. President,
01:59Ano ba talaga?
02:00What's the deal?
02:02Honorable Luistro, can you limit your answer to simply confirming the news article reports
02:09that indicate that both Lachica and Nolasco will no longer be called by the prosecution?
02:16Or was that simply a decision or if that's good for that day may still change until you rest?
02:25Your Honor, please, with all due respect to the senator judges,
02:29but it is our humble submission that the allegation of misuse and misappropriation of confidential fund
02:38have been satisfied already by the testimony of the witnesses presented, Your Honor.
02:43So you won't present them anymore?
02:45That is correct, Your Honor.
02:46Now, to answer the Honorable Senator Judge Irwin Tulfo,
02:50we do not know yet if the defense will call Lachica in Nolasco
02:56because I believe they are listed too as a common witness supposedly by both parties in the pretrial order.
03:02So there may still be a chance.
03:04But should that not happen, Senator Judge Irwin Tulfo,
03:08nothing prevents the court from calling a witness,
03:13not only as amicus curiae, but also as a witness or even recalling a witness for that matter,
03:20should the court decide at the proper time to do so.
03:24But that would come after, if at all, the presentation of the evidence-in-chief of both parties.
03:29We allow them as much as possible to do it first.
03:33And when we feel that there is a need, then we can discuss it and put it to a vote
03:38if necessary.
03:39That is before we go to the unexplained wealth and bribery articles.
03:44Is that correct, Mr. Presiding Officer?
03:46No, that would be before we arrive at a decision, Senator Judge Tulfo,
03:52if you feel like it's necessary for us to arrive at a decision on a specific article.
03:57Because that won't be part of the presentation, really, of the evidence of either party.
04:02In fact, should we decide to call either Lachica or Nolasco,
04:08he will not be examined by either of the parties who didn't call him.
04:12He will only answer to the queries of Senator Judges
04:16because he is a witness called by the court and not by the parties.
04:20Thank you, Mr. Presiding Officer.
04:22Thank you, Senator Judge Tulfo.
04:24Again, my apologies, Honorable Luizro.

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