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00:02hi everybody this is nate welcome to my channel and welcome helen my co-host for beyond the

00:08headlines welcome everybody thank you nate hi so i do have three topics for us to look out today

00:17so business like we're getting right down to it yeah no fluff no let's get business so here in

00:26this show we're talking about technological changes medical changes societal changes things

00:33that are kind of trends in in our society the first topic is really looking at young people

00:40younger generation typically like a gen z and it appears good news that they are drinking less

00:48alcohol than the older generation they're drinking less alcohol but they're using their phones

00:57a lot more so drinking more of the kool-aid

01:03so one could say they stopped drinking but they can't put their phone down and it's kind of the

01:09story here let's start with england 25 of the younger generation said until 24 said that they

01:18had not consumed alcohol in the previous year oh wow the highest non-drinking rate of any age group

01:28um and it really um works also in the u.s uh where gallup found that the proportion of american

01:38the younger who said that they drink alcohol fell from 72 percent in 2001 to 62 percent in 2003

01:47regular drinking also declined and the average drinks consumed alcohol drinks consumed in the previous

01:54week among young drinkers fell from five drinks to three drinks a week so that's kind of a big deal

02:02uh 50 percent of u.s young adult reported drinking so are you drinking casually or only half

02:12you know so that's a big drop um so why are younger generations drinking less well i feel like frankly

02:22a lot of them are more health conscious you know they're aware they're caring more about their calories

02:29or weight or sleep fitness mental health cancer alcohol dependence longevity kind of a trend on

02:36clean lifestyles um but they also find out that social media and technology changed you know change them

02:47and it's a big part of that where uh phones have replaced alcohol it's kind of weird isn't it

02:57so i don't understand so basically where it it has been studied that alcohol served some time of purpose for

03:08example

03:09going to a pub going to a bar having anxiety boredom killer and people now it's like oh i'm feeling

03:19anxious

03:21oh let me grab my phone because i'm gonna find something that's gonna make me feel connected to another

03:29person or a story a video and i will need to get a drink so it's odd it's basically the

03:38phones have replaced

03:39alcohol that's kind of a weird thing but now you see where i'm going with this

03:45so that so technology and social media has replaced

03:53alcohol in a certain way um and that has also had an impact where

04:04younger people are not going to the bar as much or the nightclub

04:08or the pub in the uk for example are they doing less if they work less business dinners or

04:16you know people going up going out after to drink after work there i had when i was working for

04:24corporations sometimes on there was a happy hour for example well people now they they go

04:30they don't do that as much they they kind of go to their phones

04:36and it has impacted places like bars and pubs and

04:44those kind of social spaces so it is an interesting um aspect and i kind of wanted to get your

04:52your thoughts about it of course i think it's it's good that people are not drinking as much alcohol

04:58but what happens to the social aspect of yeah like let's let's just go drinking with you know

05:05and it doesn't need to be alcohol you know go drinking why not a juice uh you know a soft

05:14drink

05:15the the pressure already has dropped that it doesn't have to be alcohol and so what are your thoughts

05:23on all that the change in society the younger generation they cannot replace alcohol with phones

05:31well it's really hard i think to um to be drinking while you're taking a selfie of yourself in the

05:38bathroom mirror with no clothes on you know i think that's part of it um hate those pictures

05:46you know it's fascinating it's fascinating yeah but i i would say it's which comes first the chicken

05:53or the egg i think that equally guilty is the fact that people are not socializing and therefore

06:03not drinking i don't think they're staying away from bars because they're choosing not to drink

06:08i think they're staying away from socializing which means that they're not there to drink yeah yeah

06:20so kind of where do you see that i mean that could be a question for the cards but

06:25yeah how do you see this trend i have no idea i do not understand i mean this sounds so

06:34like stereotypical like stereotypical i don't really understand younger people's values and interests i

06:43don't understand it because to me it all feels very superficial and shallow and it's not that

06:51they're avoiding alcohol they're avoiding interpersonal relationships they're avoiding interpersonal

06:56communication i was about to say wouldn't it be better for their overall health including mental health

07:03to maybe get a glass of wine or you know a drink any kind of drink at a social place

07:11and

07:11socializing than not drinking at all is that provocative yeah i think i i yeah i don't think it's a

07:17good

07:17sign actually uh i think for obvious reasons we tend a little bit in the united states because

07:24there's this puritanical thread that runs through things that tend to um demonize alcohol

07:32and i'm not sure i i know that's not entirely fair and i you know how do i say this

07:40i don't i don't i

07:41don't feel that way i don't feel that it's this horrible thing that can certainly be misused and

07:47overused and all the uh concomitant social issues that go along with the misuse of alcohol i get it

07:56but i don't think it's inherently a bad thing in and of itself and it's part and parcel of

08:05socializing and always has been in every culture over every time i mean i think they uh invented

08:14beer drinking no they invented wine in some place like

08:24yemen or oman or someplace like that surprise right i would never have guessed that

08:31predating the romans and the greeks who are so famous you know so i think that uh

08:37it's not the alcohol that's the problem it's it's young people's unwillingness to interact

08:42in person with other people that's really the issue and it there's a connection with

08:48the act of drinking um i would also kind of it just crossed my mind is that let's take

08:59the conversation away from alcohol which has health issues but let's just think of coffee

09:05having a cup of coffee at a coffee shop

09:11exactly with it's a form of socializing but what do we see like the starbucks culture i want it to

09:21go

09:23so what happens then is that everyone it's an individualism i have my coffee to go so

09:32then obviously there's no socializing when it's to go because then as opposed to coffee true coffee shops

09:41where people can you know you see someone at a table and maybe they are doing an art and crafts

09:48maybe

09:48someone is reading a book and oh you you know you engage in conversations oh i see you're reading this

09:54what i just happened to read it last week and then people make conversations so it's not just the

10:01alcohol it's the it's the socializing of actually frankly drinking anything doesn't matter what you

10:09drink but see starbucks figured out a way to monetize the coffee break and in our in the american

10:16culture nothing is a value that can't have a dollar amount put on it and if somebody is sitting in

10:23a

10:23chair socializing they're not productive they're not working they're not earning money for the

10:28corporation or the boss or the business so very gradually not all that gradually they have kind

10:34of gotten rid of things like a designated coffee break i legally they have to give you 10 minutes 15

10:41minutes i'm not sure how much the time is uh twice a day but it's just about enough time to

10:48go to the

10:48bathroom yeah um but for to sit down at leisure and chat like in ireland tea well it's ubiquitous all

10:5924 7

10:59but people sit down in the mid-afternoon and they have like a not it's not really a meal but

11:06it's less

11:07than just a little snack you know they'll have some maybe small sandwiches and some um small pastries and

11:14i know that in in in italy yeah yeah of course and and and and socialize in the in the

11:22in the mid to

11:23late afternoon right and and they take the time and i think america monetizes time and that plays into it

11:34greatly as an example my cousin she's a teacher um and she is a smoker and she wants to stop

11:45smoking

11:46but she told me which is an interesting aspect she says the problem i have is that if i stop

11:53smoking

11:55in my in the school there's a designated areas for smokers in breaks and this is where i connect

12:03with all my the other teachers it's so much fun we always laugh so much we had such a great

12:10time

12:10there's such a bond and if i stop smoking well i lose all that

12:17no i understand that completely yeah we don't stop and just

12:25vegetate in the united states it's you know if you're sitting and you're staring out the window

12:30what's wrong what's wrong with you you know you can't take a quiet moment um you have to do it

12:36consciously and you have to do it out of the sight of other people because there's this need how do

12:43i

12:43say this i have a person in my life i won't go into details it's not my husband a person

12:49in my life

12:50who believes that sitting reading a book is a huge waste of time

12:54now this person speaks five languages this is not a dummy you know but to sit your bottom in a

13:04chair

13:04and not be productive is a sign of wasting time laziness laziness yeah yeah yeah so let's ask the

13:16card what's the future of those younger generations that have lost the social places whether it's a coffee

13:26shop or a bar it's a very big problem what's happening up with that yeah i agree

13:35we actually need to do a question at a different time you were talking about starbucks and everybody

13:42carrying their cardboard you know cup we really need to do an entire dedicated video to stanley cups

13:51what do you know what i'm talking about oh no i'll tell you later it was a joke you didn't

13:57get it but

13:57it's they're a real thing if they're performative they're symbols they're they're um status symbols

14:04oh all right first card that's exactly how they feel the four of cups and it's one of cups isn't

14:13that

14:13funny um they're yeah yeah it's funny and they don't really feel they're isolated they're bored

14:21the the cups are empty literally and the phones it's the phone is the anxiety now

14:29the tree of pentacles it's the idea of work is is groups and activities but again it's tied to like

14:38you were saying money and then the seven of pentacles how do we interpret in this case it's something

14:46that's gonna grow but what are they really growing because you can take you can take this as many

14:53direction you're building a relationship you're growing a relationship you're growing so it's

14:59lacking that that depth and that growth so this is a generation that's gonna feel like this

15:06yeah there's a sense of um oh god what's the word i want uh not antipathy but uh

15:15oh my god when you're kind of bored when you're kind of bored apathy thank you yes apathy

15:23yeah so i got i got cards i would never have predicted these cards to tell you the truth

15:29uh the king of wands reversed and then the five of wands reversed i get this feeling like they're

15:36doing nothing they're avoiding they're avoiding interaction but they're not looking at it like that

15:43the three of pentacles or you know it's not productive interaction that they're avoiding it's not

15:50communicating and and and socializing they're avoiding conflict they're there it's like they

15:58would rather remove themselves from the social sphere and that's why there's so how do i put this

16:09so much less fewer opportunities for interaction and it's by choice right and i got this this is really

16:19weird the star reversed well no hopes no dreams that's yeah yeah i was gonna say that they feel like

16:28what's the point there's a sense of you got apathy i get hopelessness no hope no dream and that's the

16:35issue that is surfacing and sometimes yeah those places like a bar or a club or a coffee shop serve

16:45the

16:45purpose yeah there's a sense of um unpredictability when you go into the public arena well you saw what

16:58happened yesterday at times square did you see what happened no no some unstable person oh randomly

17:09stabbed two people yeah yeah yeah it was extremely random and there's this sense of unpredictability

17:18uncertainty instability and i think that young people are very sensitive to it and they they

17:25say that they have this uh pervasive sense of anxiety yeah a lot of them and i think it's easier

17:34to stay at

17:36home than it is to go out and when you're home they've been conditioned to be on their phone

17:41and i don't think like i said they're too busy taking selfies in the back room

17:45i don't know to do anything else yeah so let's move to another topic here and that i know you

17:52will

17:52really be interested by this oh my god now what are you doing it is the disappearance of the family

17:59doctor it's a it's a trend family doctors are disappearing so here is a statistic from

18:09oecd the western world so to speak let me ask you on average it all the kind of western world

18:16so to

18:16speak um they average the number of doctors per a thousand people so how many doctors do you

18:24think that on average for a thousand people now is this europe and north america yes let's just say

18:32that oh probably probably australia as well but let's just okay okay okay uh on average how many

18:43doctors for a thousand people ten three oh dear god no wonder

18:52yeah i'm not surprised that's very low so not only there's just not enough doctors

18:59but really the issue that's been highlighted that is a consequence of having very few doctors

19:08is the continuity of the of the knowledge of the person and the care throughout someone's life

19:17in other words yeah you see one doctor is another doctor is another doctor that's a big issue it's not

19:24just that there are not enough doctors but we lost the continuity so let's just go back in time when

19:31there were family doctors primary care doctors usually cares of preventative care early diagnosis

19:41chronic disease chronic disease management mental health support referrals medication management health

19:50there's such thing as health history patients families and circumstances and maybe in some towns or cities

20:00they actually had their parents grandparents as patients so they have the whole history

20:07that is gone so what do you have now it's the typical half a doctor then a different doctor then

20:18the nurse

20:19practitioner then maybe a telehealth remote distance zoom doctor urgent care doctor then a specialist

20:30another doctor then another doctor and the loop just keeps going rather than patient a family doctor who knows them

20:37so the doctors are burning out more than half more than half of the u.s primary care physician reported

20:46a burnout

20:51this is part of the commonwealth found analysis and around one third of of those one third of those who

21:00said that they had a burn out that they were burnout which are half of the doctors so one third

21:07of the half they just stopped seeing patients

21:11yeah yeah um what about the administrative work that's something that has changed electronic records insurance requirements documentation prior authorization

21:28billing performance metric and other bureaucracy so it's just also obviously another factor aging population so there's more chronic disease

21:40more medication more medication more medication more cardiovascular disease more complex cases primary care they found out that the young

21:51doctors don't want to do primary care anymore there's less interest for that the u.s projected that the shortage

22:00will be about 70 000 primary care physician by 2036

22:08social consequences social consequences what happens when you don't go to a doctor you wait you self-diagnose online you

22:17use ai you go to emergency department you use the urgent care you ignore the symptoms some people buy the

22:26medications online

22:30or you seek alternative medicine so it is a very serious aspect and then there's of course ai

22:41is ai is the solution because they're routing a lot of the answers through ai but ai cannot replace the

22:52family doctor we explained why earlier so this is i mean i know

22:57i'm very aware that i'm very aware that i'm not saying anything to you or people watching that people don't

23:02know but just to give a sense of the magnitude of the problem especially around doctors burnout

23:10yeah you know this is really difficult because if you're my age you know they put the leeches in a

23:19jar but when you went to the doctor my family doctor when i was a child

23:25we met him when we first immigrated to the united states and he was just out of medical school and

23:33had just opened his office and i guess was desperate for patients

23:38so he was young and he was probably the same age as my parents right and he was the only

23:44doctor that i ever went to

23:46until i went away to college and he knew the names of every he helped to deliver all of my

23:56siblings yeah he knew the names ages everything of all of everybody in the family and their medical history if

24:04he saw you on the street he'd say you know how's that toe you know

24:10um he went to the same church we did i saw him every sunday with his family and that wasn't

24:16why they picked him but that was a plus i'm sure

24:18um you had a sense that you knew where he was coming from and he knew where you were coming

24:26from and there was a rapport and a trust

24:29and he did everything you know he did all the things and if you got into a car crash and

24:37you were in the hospital

24:38he came to the hospital and he did house visits yeah house calls right yeah so today it's for somebody

24:49my age

24:49it's extremely difficult now i go to a a particular clinic and i have been going to it since my

24:58third

24:58daughter was before my third daughter was born she's almost 40

25:05and i've i've stayed and i've gone through probably seven to nine doctors i started to go there because the

25:15young

25:17just starting out doctor here in town that i liked he had a storefront he had an old like a

25:22i don't know

25:23like maybe um an insurance office on the main street with the big plate glass windows you know

25:29and he had all this old equipment from some old doctor who died and he he always wore like jeans

25:35and

25:35a plaid shirt he was a very personable person and he charged 25 anything you came in for 25 so

25:44that was

25:44perfect right but it got to the point where he could no longer pay his insurance oh and so he

25:51became

25:51the county health person public health you know but he volunteered at this clinic so i followed him

25:59to the clinic and since then that's been almost 40 years he's long gone they uh have had all kinds

26:07of

26:07different health care doctors and there's no consistency there's no sense that they know you

26:14and even when it's somebody you've seen before they're so busy looking at their computer screen

26:19and asking you your birth date every two seconds i had an appointment a while ago recently i went into

26:27the front desk they asked me my birth date while i was standing there in front of the people who

26:33asked me

26:33my birth date the nurse took me back but before she did she asked me my birth date she took

26:40me into

26:40the room and quickly followed by the the assistant who asked me my birth date and i'm thinking what do

26:46they think i'm shape-shifting as i'm walking from the front desk with all eyes on me do they think

26:53i've

26:54become a different person since they asked me two seconds ago oh please it's ridiculous you know

27:04it's ridiculous i know it's ridiculous they feel it's ridiculous meanwhile united health care used ai

27:12to deny patients coverage and it turned out that the ai was wrong 90 percent of the time

27:22so i don't know i'm glad i'm old thanks so let's look at this question what's it's a very serious

27:30issue

27:30what's gonna happen with primary care physicians you mean family doctors well also known as primary care

27:40physicians well the fancier the title the more the the bill

27:48what's gonna happen because there's a shortage

28:00oh first god the tower

28:15i get the page of cups it's almost like some solutions will come which is very interesting

28:21the tower i should explain yeah it's a very serious problem it's like the thunder it's almost like it's

28:28telling me like it's gonna get to a crisis we're already in it well more of it and the the

28:37judgment

28:38decisions would have to be made and solutions would have to be found so it tells me that it's gonna

28:46get

28:47worse but it's also gonna force ways it just cannot stay the way it is

28:57i got the six of cups that sense of longing for the way that it used to be and is

29:02no longer and it's

29:04because of money

29:07and i got a really interesting set of three cards i feel like they i they came one after the

29:12other i

29:12think they're connected i got the hierophant the high priestess and the magician reversed and i feel like

29:21what we should be considering we're not considering because we're considering profit and really that's

29:27driving everything you ordinary people are concerned about a relationship with their doctor

29:35and the care quality of care but that's not what drives health care in the united states money drives

29:40health care but what's gonna happen well this is what should happen will it happen it's up to us

29:47we make these decisions right we're putting up with this i think that there's going to have to be a

29:54reevaluation of motivation and a realignment with the things that are truly important in the world

30:00but i got the magician reversed i feel like it's gonna take a miracle i think we're up against

30:07a war a runaway a runaway bureaucracy there's that word it keeps coming up with us today

30:14in our conversations earlier yeah that word bureaucracy yeah yeah our next topic is a little bit more fun

30:25um for people who can afford to travel because i am aware that there are a number of people who

30:32cannot

30:32afford to travel or go on vacations people and particularly with as a trended society have changed the way

30:40that they're looking at vacationing or traveling so why well there's a more as a deeper search for

30:49meeting identity and escape so let's look at those travel trends the first trend is called

30:57detour travel it's basically not going to like the main destination but finding like

31:04of the beaten path places so for example expedia which is a trap online travel agency they surveyed 25 000

31:15travelers and 63 of them said that they would rather go to a less known less crowded destination on their

31:26next trip so for example let's just take france for example one of the main countries where people

31:34go visit well maybe they don't want to spend as much time in paris for anymore they might want to

31:41go in

31:41the countryside exploring

31:45something that's a little bit more authentic and less touristy i think that resonates we're all becoming

31:52kind of everything is just so cookie cutter and people are looking for the things that are more

31:59authentic so authenticity outside the beaten path um the trend number two is there's really um and that's not

32:14uh uh uh it's an issue where people used to travel they want to see they they were doing like

32:24checklist

32:24or bucket lists you know i need you know i want to travel i want to see this this this

32:30this and this

32:31and it was like for example example going to europe we're trying to see seven countries in two weeks

32:40you know well now the trend is like well i'm just gonna see one country but i'm gonna take my

32:47time to

32:48explore maybe see how people live what people eat trying to be them for a little bit so it has

32:57shifted

32:58it's again more authentic um trend number three travel for experiences rather than landmarks so for example

33:09rather than seeing the eiffel tower i want to take a class on how to make a croissant

33:17that sort of experience or a coffee culture in italy for example that would be so people want to

33:26experiences coffee chocolate skincare tea specialty or local products basically more of the experiences

33:35as opposed to landmarks you know taking that photo with the landmark well what if i experience so i'll take

33:43like a little personal um story of mine as far as gifts when i travel when i have the chance

33:54to travel

33:54in a different country for example if it's a coffee culture country i like to take back like a bag

34:01of coffee

34:02as a souvenir because then you get to drink it for months or weeks after you come back and that's

34:10something very that that you can take with you that's inexpensive 10 15 dollars and that's better

34:17than a t-shirt well it's better than it's better than a little figurine exactly of a frog playing a

34:26banjo with a hat on made out of seashells that sort of thing um another trend is people are getting

34:34inspired by movies inspired by movies to travel expedia found that 66 percent of travelers said movies and tv

34:41shows are guiding their choices they see a place in a movie they say oh maybe i could go see

34:47it it is

34:48guiding them trend number five travel as as therapy so people are traveling

34:58interestingly interestingly to recover from a tech technical life always on their phones and and it's

35:07so heavy they're gonna go to a place that is calm to recover from burnout to reset to lose weight

35:14to

35:15improve sleep to meditate to walk to reconnect with nature to disconnect from work to find themselves

35:23that's another trend with more like nature possibly so travel has completely changed um it is sad

35:34that someone has to fly 5 000 miles to stop checking their emails or to sleep properly or to find

35:42a way to walk

35:43again or to spend time with their family or to eat slowly again or to sit with nature or stop

35:51looking at their

35:51phones and that's kind of the sad part is that now basically people are just taking a vacation to escape

36:04this kind of life so travel has changed because it's seen as a quiet escape you see what i mean

36:14yeah oh you want my opinion huh yes yes do you believe that this is this shift is happening vacationing

36:23means something different

36:27yeah uh this is i think it has it's different in europe than it is in the united states yes

36:34every european

36:36person who lives in europe with whom i've spoken about the concept of vacation and time off that they're

36:45always horrified by the situation in the united states we get so little time allowed off yeah from work that

36:53it's almost impossible to make big plans but to me the idea of this is a larger problem the idea

37:01of

37:01vacation and time off is a class issue um a hundred years ago you watch all the old black and

37:11white

37:11movies of the people on the big cruise ships and in the ball gowns you know going to europe and

37:17making

37:18that grand tour it has always been a benefit for the ultra rich or the comfortable ordinary people americans um

37:28in general don't travel much outside the country unless and this is the interesting thing it's like

37:35a vicious circle unless they work in an industry that pays really well like the tech industry and

37:42they're in front of screens all day long and they want to diffuse from it but they're the ones who

37:46have

37:46the money to travel okay so having said that um especially europeans criticize americans for being so

37:53ignorant of the larger world and languages and customs and there's truth to that there's a lack of um

38:01interest on some people's parts to learn that stuff but we don't have the opportunity my cousin could not

38:09comprehend the mileage difference between one place in the united states and another because everything in

38:16europe for example i'm not picking on you is so close together you can go from france where they

38:23speak french every forget everybody speaks english france where they speak french germany in what two hours

38:29maybe yeah yeah and and you're exposed to a different culture a different language and old historical

38:38stuff dare i say archaeology not here not in the united states so there's a lack of opportunity

38:45there's uh uh to be exposed to cultures there's a lack of time off there's a lack of uh money

38:55to pay for

38:56it and i i think it's fair to say that the majority of americans and this is becoming a larger

39:05group every

39:05day as the middle class disappears the majority of americans can't afford to go anywhere can't afford to do

39:12anything people go camping people go hiking and they can't indulge in a trip somewhere who can afford a

39:23plane ticket i mean i'm talking ordinary people you know but this is also given the situation with gas

39:31prices rving has is a luxury if you're filling your tank on an rv and i don't have one but

39:39i imagine it

39:40could get to 600 to fill up a whole bank oh yeah and it's becoming much more and more difficult

39:47to

39:47afford to rv because not just the price of gas i've been watching a lot of these videos out of

39:52curiosity

39:53i'm fascinated why would you want to live in an rv you know um places that until recently they are

40:01able to

40:02stop at bureau of land management land that's just open for americans to just go out there in the

40:09wilderness and park and nobody bothers you it's now against the law in a lot of places to stay there

40:15or like national parks and such are now charging exorbitant amounts of money to sleep overnight

40:22you know so it's against the law to sleep in a vehicle parked at the side of a road parked

40:30in just a

40:31random turn off in the woods it's you know it the it's becoming more and more controlled and

40:38confining so the things that people can't afford now become unaffordable and are disallowed

40:46so what was the question well the question i have for the cars is what's the future of

40:54vacations in the united states or just why in the states they just say in the states

41:01but you know some of those trends are starting to come into europe as well you know

41:07well i have some children who are childless and uh their jobs allow them you know to do things

41:16and they make choices like on taking a break and going to south america and ziplining in the jungle

41:28but to me that's not typical that's to me that's like i don't get it but it's not to me

41:36i don't think

41:37most americans would thought the trend i see is seven of wands you know it is more about finding a

41:46place to rest calm avoid burnout the star resource themselves nine of cups feeling whole with oneself

41:56so it suggests that vacations are there more and more for people to deal with their jobs but also the

42:05world that we live in and finding a safe place regarding whether it's like five miles away or five

42:12thousand miles away well i got the nine of swords people let's be honest here i don't know anybody

42:22who's in a position to go on a vacation they might go for two days to visit their brother in

42:28another

42:28county you know but i maybe i'm hanging out with the wrong people it's not a lack of imagination it's

42:35not a lack of interest there's a desire there to do these things but it's it's completely out of

42:42their ability to to afford it and people have a lot more serious things people are not worrying about

42:49their next vacation here at all i got the tower i i think that industry is on its way out

42:56you know the

42:56industry the big you know holiday type issues uh for a while yeah people are going to have to let

43:04go of

43:04that let go of that um that sense of you know time for ourselves times to in time to indulge

43:14ourselves

43:15in uh i don't want to use the word petty that's not the right word frivolous you know it's an

43:24indulgence

43:25it's a luxury it shouldn't be i think it's a necessity i think six weeks

43:33you know but but that's the way things are here because our values are screwed up

43:40sorry it's a professional term totally screwed up and i and once again i get the magician it's gonna

43:46take them it's gonna take some real paradigm shifting yeah yeah so i think it's it's in the

43:53process of flux and change and it's gonna get worse before it gets better and i think eventually

44:01you know that will become something we can all look forward to but that's not where we are these

44:07days that's not our challenge these days the last thing anybody wants to worry about is

44:12it's their vacation you know just well on that note helen we're gonna close the show we're trying

44:21to keep it tight so people can really enjoy it and have time to do maybe they can't vacation

44:28and be away from their screen and be away from us so thank you for watching we'd love to know

44:36what you

44:36think of those topics is it something that you have also observed and what are your thoughts i'm

44:43curious where people would like to go if money were no object i just i'm so curious if you had

44:53the top

44:53the not just the money and the time well yeah yeah yeah all right see you next week and see

45:00you on

45:01helen's channel for our next show bye thanks everybody bye

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