00:05In the impeachment trial, Vice President Sara Duterte in the afternoon,
00:10two colonels of the Philippines have no confidential funds from the Department of Education.
00:17It's even if they have liquidated confidential funds,
00:20the certification they have given to the Kagawaran.
00:24Let's go to Joseph Morrow.
00:28Two officers of the Philippines have sumed up to the impeachment trial by Vice President Sara Duterte.
00:36Ipinasabina si Col. Manaros Boransing II at Col. Magtanggol Panopio ng prosecution
00:42para sa mga AFP certification na may kaugnayan sa liquidation ng confidential funds from the Department of Education.
00:48Kasama sila sa mga Youth Leadership Summit ng AFP noong 2023
00:53para maiwasang ma-recruit ng mga kriminal at terrorist group ang mga kabataan.
00:57Ang prosecution sinilip ang budget nila para sa mga Youth Leadership Summit.
01:02Yung pong budget ng Army para sa YLS, kailan po ito hinahanda?
01:09Well, of course sir, we follow the government budget process.
01:15It's one year before.
01:18We submit our activities, I think first quarter and second quarter that we want to be funded.
01:25If the budget is for 2027, it's 2026 sir.
01:29Ibat-ibang government agency rin daw nakikisa sa mga aktibidad ng AFP noong 2023
01:34at kabilang dyan ang DepEd na noy pinamumunuan ang Vice Presidente.
01:39Saan po nang galing yung funding para dun sa YLS at IEC activities nyo noong 2023?
01:47For the 2023 Youth Leadership Summit, sir, the funding for the whole activity itself came
01:56from various government agencies, sir.
01:59For the Army participants, it was from the Army in the budget of the Army.
02:04For the students and out-of-school youth participants,
02:08it was funded from the provincial, city, or municipal local government funds.
02:17For the other participants from other agencies or civilian stakeholders, it was from their own funding.
02:25Inusisa rin sa pagdinig kung gumamit ba ng confidential funds ng DepEd
02:29nung lumahok sila sa mga aktibidad ng AFP.
02:32Would you know if DepEd spent on that activity on their own people
02:37because you collaborated with DepEd on that activity? Would you know?
02:41Yes, sir. What I know is they arrived there.
02:45They were there during the Youth Leadership Summits.
02:48Did you spend intelligence or confidential funds for these activities on the part of the AFP?
02:55Or was this part of your regular programming, as you said earlier,
02:58chargeable against your regular budget?
03:01It's part of the regular budget, sir.
03:03Bilang pagpapatunay ng pakikisa ng DepEd sa mga naturang aktibidad,
03:07hininga ng dalawang opisyal ng AFP ng certification.
03:10In your case, sino po ang humingi ng certification?
03:15I was directed by our then commander of the 1st Infantry Tabak Division,
03:22Major General Viray, to draft the certification.
03:26He was called by USEC Undersecretary Mempin.
03:33Yung po ang certification ay in compliance with the order of my commander
03:37to issue certifications to DepEd in coordination with then USEC Nolasco Mempin, Your Honor.
03:43It is part of my job to issue certificates to our partners,
03:47especially on activities conducted by the division, Your Honor.
03:50Pero hindi umano nila alam na gagamitin ito ng DepEd sa liquidation ng kanilang confidential funds.
03:56Doon ko lang po, formally nalaman yung information na yun, Your Honor.
04:01Did you have any reaction, Colonel, upon hearing or knowing that?
04:07Medyo nagulat po kami kasi yung po aming certification is only for the certification that we conducted,
04:14the Youth Leadership Summit.
04:16Hindi po namin sinacertify anything about money or funds, Your Honor.
04:22Lumabas man sa liquidation ng DepEd ang certification ng dalawang opisyal.
04:26Iginit nila na wala raw silang nakuhang pondo mula sa kagawaran.
04:30Nakasaad sa liquidation report ng DepEd, nakabuang 15.54 million pesos ang ginastos nito
04:36mula sa confidential fund na ipinambayad umuna sa reward kapalit ng impormasyon.
04:41Gano po kalaki ang funding by way of confidential funds na ipinrovide ng DepEd
04:49para sa YLS at IEC activities nyo noong 2023?
04:56There was no funding released to the 1st Infantry Division from DepEd, sir.
05:05Sir, there were no funds from other, any government agency released to the 1st Infantry Tabak Division, sir.
05:14Ang depensa, hindi niya nagsagawa ng cross-examination sa dalawang military personnel.
05:19Kaya naman sa pagsimula ng interjection ng mga Sen. Judge Sinilip ni Sen. Judge Bamakino
05:25kung magkano nga ba ang pondo ng AFP para sa mga Youth Leadership Summit.
05:29Yung 8 na YLS na pinag-uusapan natin, magkano po yung total nun?
05:34For the Army, it's around 30,000 per activity.
05:38So, hindi ho lalampas ng 500,000 pesos yung ginastos nito po sa YLS?
05:43No, sir.
05:43Hindi ho kayo nagtaka na 15 million yung ginastos para sa information for events that don't cost more than maybe
05:51200,000, 150,000 to 200,000 per event?
05:54I did not know the amount or that there was any funds by the DepEd po, sir.
06:02Si Senate President Wingat Shalyan inusisa ang certification ni Panopio.
06:06Dito sa inyong letter, itong galing sa DepEd, ito ba ay confidential information or surveillance information?
06:14I assume that it came from the teachers on the ground as members of the DepEd who provided us the
06:20information
06:20on how and where to conduct the wireless.
06:24Masasabi natin na somehow meron pong secret, meron pong confidential or meron din pong open source.
06:31Tanong naman ng ilang Senator Judge, kailangan bang gumamit ng DepEd ng confidential funds sa ganitong aktividad?
06:37Tumigil po ba sila yung mga teachers on the ground na mag-coordinate sa inyo nung nawala na yung confidential
06:44funds ng DepEd?
06:46I think on the ground, tuloy-tuloy naman po ang coordination ng teachers with the EAP, Your Honor.
06:50Ayon kinaboransing at Panopio, kabilang ang DepEd sa pagplano at pagpili ng lugar sa mga Youth Leadership Summit na isinagawa
06:57noon
06:58para raw magrekomenda ng eskwelahan, lalo ng karamihan sa mga participant nito ay mga estudyante.
07:05Joseph Morong, nagbabalita para sa GMA News.
