00:02We were trying to emulate the sounds of the city that we were living in.
00:08I'm talking about car alarms, police sirens, yelling and screaming,
00:15all those kind of sounds that you get just walking down the street.
00:20There's a lot of flowers in the garden of the city and trams and old age tourists and stuff.
00:29I think people reacted to that and kind of wanted to have their own little slice of hardcore.
00:36I don't think I knew any musicians in Christchurch who hadn't dabbled in junk.
00:43Christchurch in the 90s was a very junky town, a very pill poppin town, very alcoholic town.
00:51It had that fuel to it.
00:53I was asked what was it like being in a band with two junkies and I really didn't know the
00:58answer to that
00:58because I didn't perceive them as junkies.
01:01I was using to get out of it and be not normal.
01:07Mike, unfortunately, was in the horrible situation of needing him to feel normal.
01:13There was really no money at all from Mike and his music.
01:17If you were lucky, you might get, you know, 60 bucks from a gig or something, you know, if you
01:23were lucky.
01:24The sexual imagery of Squirm was heavily ironic, I think.
01:32I mean, no one in their right mind with, you know, anything approximating 20-20 vision is ever going to
01:40mistake us for pin-up boys.
01:42I was attempting to get flying uninterested, sending them CDs.
01:48I think we had a shit gig in Auckland and one of their guys came along and, you know, we
01:53just destroyed ourselves on stage and that was that.
01:56Yeah, so back to being starving artists, I guess, you know.
02:01Mike lost quite a lot of weight in a year preceding his death.
02:07He was reluctant to go to hospital because his veins were so dreadfully damaged through drug use
02:14and he really didn't have anywhere to go.
02:18I went in and I couldn't revive him.
02:27When Squirm ended, there was the unfinished business of a third album.
02:33Now we're back in the studio, back here, re-recording that album.
02:42I really just want to put this puppy to rest and move on.
02:52It's not a documentary about a band.
02:54It's a documentary about an extended family that grows out of striving for some sort of artistic achievement.
03:03It documents your environment, the people you know, the things you love and the things you hate
03:09and those things, you know, they mustn't disappear into the ether.
03:17What do I do now?
03:23With you out.
03:35With you out.
03:49Is a documentary about something that was recently created of drugs that falsely so you could
03:51get after things like aincirmed?
03:51It's the 80s or you no meaning that were so dreadful.
