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00:31Muling sumalang sa witness stand si OVP Assistant Chief of Staff Asek Lemuel Ortonio para sa cross-examination ng depensa.
00:40Una nilang sinilip ang hindi pagsumite ng physical and financial plan kasabay ng request ng OVP na confidential funds.
01:00In the process of approving your request for additional budget, no issue whatsoever was raised by either the DBM or
01:09the Office of the President regarding the documents that you submitted.
01:13We did not receive any comment regarding the submissions that we've made.
01:19Nasilip din ang paggamit sa confidential fund na nakasal sa physical and financial plan.
01:25The confidential funds were not used to fund the good governance program in itself, but the implementation thereof.
01:36Yes, that's correct ma'am.
01:38The confidential funds for the year 2023 were not used to fund the socio-economic program itself, but the safe
01:47implementation thereof.
01:48Pero pinalagan ito ng prosecution na tinawag si Ortonio na incompetent na tumistigo kung saan nagastos o napunta ang confidential
01:57funds.
01:58He himself explained that he had no participation whatsoever in the disbursement of said confidential funds.
02:05So this witness, Your Honor, by his own admission, is incompetent to testify where the confidential funds were spent.
02:14Muling nilinaw kung alam ba ni Ortonio kung saan ginastos ang mga pondo.
02:18Base sa testimony mo gina Ortonio, wala kang alam sa paggastos, pag-liquidate, pag-disburse ng confidential fund.
02:26Tama?
02:26Yes, that's correct, Your Honor.
02:28Sabi ni Gina Acosta, wala rin siyang alam.
02:31Based on what I have read in...
02:34Na testimony niya?
02:35Yes, sir.
02:36Base sa pagkakaalam mo, alam ba ng Vice President kung paano ito ginastos?
02:44The way I understand it, sir, as the head of agency, I would understand that she knows the implementation, sir.
02:53Yes, so si Cornelachica alam din siyempre.
02:55Yes, sir, as the security officer.
02:58Inusisa naman ni Sen. Judge Rafi Tulfo kung bakit hindi tinanong ni Ortonio kung anong klaseng gamotang binili gamit ang
03:07confidential funds ng OVP.
03:09Did you ask kung anong medisina binili ng... para saan medisina bibili ng informant? Yung pera?
03:15When the time na nag-consult po ako with the security officer, sir, I did not ask anymore on the
03:22specifics.
03:23You are a very highly educated person from prestigious schools. Come on, it doesn't make sense. It defies logic.
03:29At the time po, sir, when I consulted with the security officer, sir, I was not able to ask anymore.
03:39Why not? It's part of your job. In fact, pumirma ka eh doon sa pag-reply mo sa EOM.
03:47I asked, sir, for your process.
03:49So, pumirma ka nakapikit? Yes, sir.
03:51No, sir, hindi naman po na nakapikit, sir, because nagtanong naman po ako sa security officer namin, sir, on how
03:59it was released or implemented on the ground.
04:04You could have asked La Chica and said, La Chica, bakit tin tayo pumunta sa DOH, maghingi tayo ng gawot
04:09para makalibin, makatipid tayo sa confidential funds?
04:11That I cannot answer, sir.
04:12Sa pag-interject ni Sen. Judge Kiko Pangilinan, kinwestiyon niya kung bakit gamot ang binili bilang reward sa mga informant.
04:21Mahirap paniwalaan na kayo ay gumastos ng 122 milyon para sa gamot na reward dahil nag-surveillance yung mga informant
04:31at nabigyan ng reward at hiningi nila gamot at hindi ninyo binigyan ng gamot, binigyan ninyo ng pera para sila
04:39nang bibili ng gamot.
04:40May napansin naman si Sen. Judge Panfilo Lacson sa Physical and Financial Plan ng OVP Confidential Fund noong 2022 at
04:492023 na nagkakahalaga ng 500 milyon pesos.
04:54Anya, tila iisa at copy-paste lang ang nakasulat na physical target.
05:00Percentage of activities implemented without untoward security-related incidents.
05:12Paulit-ulit po ito. Ano pong analysis nyo dyan?
05:16These are the activities that will be done, sir.
05:19I know. Hindi ba ito isulto sa common sense? Hindi man lang nyo binago ng konti.
05:25O ako na mag-describe. I think it's stupid. Sana man lang, binago-bago nyo ng konti.
05:32Sinilip din ang mga dipangkaraniwang pangalan sa acknowledgement receipt na pinirmahan ng mga informant.
05:39Minsan ang natanong ng ilang Sen. Judges, baka alias ang mga ito.
05:45Ang alias po, anong kahalagahan?
05:48I'm not sure of the circumstances surrounding their use of alias.
05:53Under the anti-alias law, sir, inaalaw naman po yung paggamit ng alias,
05:57provided kailangan po nakabanggit din, nakadisclose kung ano yung real name.
06:04That should be a non-issue because even them, they never claimed that in any of their pleading before this
06:08Honorable Court.
06:09Kailangan nyo po ba kung sino si Marisal Bonifacio?
06:13To be candid, Your Honor.
06:15I'm not familiar.
06:16Sino po?
06:18Si Binigno Aquino Jr., si Ninoy.
06:23Siya mismo may alias.
06:25Dahil nabanggit si Ninoy, nag-react si Sen. Judge Bam Aquino, pamangkin ng pinaslang na dating senador.
06:32Tama po, si Ninoy Aquino po ang kanyang alias ay Marshall Bonifacio para makauwi po siya sa Pilipinas nung nasa
06:39Boston siya.
06:40Pero wala naman po siyang confidential funds.
06:43Bago magtapos ang cross-examination, hiniling naman ni Sen. Judge Migs Zubiri na hingin sa COA ang status ng kanilang
06:52findings sa confidential funds.
06:54Can this court make representation with the COA?
06:58If possible, during the duration of this trial, so that we may be guided as judges.
07:03Can they make their finding already with finality?
07:07The Commission on Audit is an independent constitutional commission and I doubt if we would be well within our rights
07:16to compel them similar to a mandamus to act one way or the other.
07:23Sa cross-examination naman ang abogado ng BICE, ipinunto ni Ortonio na hindi pa naman daw pinal ang notice of
07:30disallowance ng COA sa OVP at pwede pa itong iapela.
07:34Hindi rin daw umano ginamit ang confidential funds sa mga regular na programa ng OVP.
07:41Ito ang unang balita, Ian Cruz, GMA News.
