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00:00Do you see, do you believe India will one day see the women leading all three services?
00:05Yes, I firmly believe that that will happen.
00:08So the armed forces medical services usually are always prepared, 24 into 7 into 365.
00:15The armed forces medical services is an extremely gender neutral force.
00:18Medicine as a profession itself is very good.
00:21Yes, and armed forces takes it one step forward because of your teamwork
00:25and you know that you're doing something for the nation.
00:27We always think of leadership as something very large,
00:30but leadership begins right at the bottom of the ladder.
00:32That is what is inculcated in the armed forces.
00:36Today we have a very special guest to have conversation with.
00:40She heals those who defend the nation.
00:42I'm talking about Surgeon Vice Admiral Aarti Sareen,
00:46who is the first Women Director General of Armed Forces Medical Services.
00:50She recently received a prestigious Param Vistar Seva Medal as well.
00:55So welcome to ETV, ma'am.
00:56Thank you so much.
00:57So ma'am, recently Prasindrapadi Murmu has conferred you with a Param Vistar Seva Medal.
01:02So once first the news came to you, what was your first reaction to that?
01:07I was, of course, very delighted to hear the news.
01:11And my reaction was that I have got this on behalf of the entire services of, you know, my team,
01:22that is the Army Medical Corps in total, you know, of close to almost 8,000 medical officers,
01:29close to almost 5,000 nursing officers, about 1,000 dental officers, and about 400 non-technical officers,
01:40and 65,000 men from all the three services who have worked very hard to provide the highest levels of
01:47medical care
01:48to the, you know, the soldier, the sailor, the airmen, the air dependents, and veterans.
01:55And they have done their job so well and because of which I have been recognized because I lead the
02:00team.
02:01You are also leading the Armed Forces Medical Services as its first Women Director General.
02:07So when you entered to College, Armed Forces Medical College in Pune, during 1985…
02:13In 1981, I entered College.
02:15Yes, ma'am.
02:16So have you ever imagined that this is going to be the path and you are going to achieve this?
02:23No, on entry into college, I certainly didn't think that this would be the path that I would take.
02:28But I think during the, you know, my career was to just keep doing what I was supposed to do
02:35at that particular point of time
02:37and doing it well and above all, I enjoyed what I did and I kept moving up in my career.
02:44And of course, it was when I also became the Commandant of the Armed Forces Medical College before this position
02:51and there was a very nice poem that somebody had put out that, you know, that the girl's hostel is
02:58very close to the Commandant's office
03:00but it took her 38 years to reach there.
03:02So that was my journey of 38 years of, you know, working in various appointments across the three services and
03:09reaching there
03:10and then of course coming to this one.
03:12Medical profession is also a kind of calling.
03:16So how do you recognize yourself in this service and working as a medical professional in the Armed Forces during
03:24this year
03:24and what sustained these during these years now?
03:28What sustained you?
03:29Yeah, so it is a calling.
03:30Yes, certainly.
03:31I mean, to start with, you know, I took up this career because simply because I, you know, when you're
03:37a child,
03:37you have certain aspirations.
03:39I wanted to be a doctor.
03:40I love helping people.
03:41So that starts off as a calling, you know, when you start your profession.
03:44Your first calling is that you do well in your academics and cross that barrier and become the doctor.
03:50Then the next calling comes when you do your internship that I should learn the maximum.
03:54This is the maximum time I can ask questions.
03:56And then you become a doctor.
03:57You go into a, you know, I'm talking about my callings in the Armed Forces Medical Services.
04:02Then you go to a, you know, a smaller station first on posting.
04:05It's a remote area.
04:06You learn how to, how to adjust with limited resources.
04:12And that's again a calling, you know, that you have to put your head together and decide.
04:17And those were the times, hardly any equipment.
04:19Things have improved so much now.
04:21So the calling keeps on changing, but the central aspect remains the fact that yes, you have
04:28to provide the highest level of patient care, whether you're in a hospital, whether you're
04:32in the field hospital, you're in a field or in a remote location, you are at sea or
04:36at a remote air base.
04:38The calling remains the same, which is the patient care.
04:41And if he's a soldier, sailor or airman, he has to be returned to duty.
04:45And the calling remains that we have to preserve force.
04:48Our force preservation is the most important part.
04:51We are here to do a national duty to protect the nation and make sure that we remain, you
04:56know, the protectors of the nation's protectors.
04:59We look after them, return them to duty and preserve their health.
05:03So ma'am, in these close to four decades, armed forces has also evolved a lot as well as
05:09medical services, technology and all.
05:11So in your view, what was the most impactful transformation of these years?
05:17We have, medicine as a whole, worldwide has transformed over these last, you know, this
05:25last one decade.
05:27And we in the armed forces also have taken it upon ourselves, my predecessors all these
05:31years and myself.
05:33We've taken it upon ourselves to keep abreast with whatever is happening in the civil medical
05:37field and whatever is required for our, you know, applications and operations, which may
05:44be a little distinct and unique.
05:45So I would like to divide them into two halves.
05:48So we have two duties.
05:50One is at, one is a duty in peace, where we provide medical care to soldiers who may be
05:56evacuated, dealing with their rehabilitation or some complicated cases.
06:00The care of the veterans, the care of the dependents who stay back here, we look after
06:04them.
06:05So that is in peace, we have to have absolutely high class, very, very modern facilities available
06:11because the soldier deserves the best.
06:13So, because of which we have to have accreditions, we have to have trainings which are at par with
06:17the other institutions.
06:18So we have to work very hard at it.
06:20The other is that we have to have our operations whenever there is conflict.
06:25So, we have to be prepared for that.
06:26We have to prepare our, you know, our doctors, our allied health professionals for working in
06:31remote areas to be able to quickly evacuate casualties, provide care, if they have to provide
06:37care at the point of care, what we now call the point of care, they might have to provide
06:41prolonged casualty care.
06:42So we train them for all of that.
06:44So we have now looking at devices which are portable, which are small, which they can use
06:50for the point of care.
06:51What is your philosophy behind leading these people armed forces medical services now?
06:58The philosophy of leadership remains, you know, the same across the world.
07:02But of course, there are different kinds of leadership as, you know, if anybody has attended
07:06a management class, we would know.
07:08So we have distinct kinds of leadership.
07:10One is the leadership which applies to medicine and the other would be that to the armed forces.
07:14So we have a very nice amalgamation of both of it.
07:17So what I would say was leadership would be a person, first and foremost, he has to be very
07:22credible.
07:23If you talk about the qualities of leadership that are required here, you have to be extremely
07:27credible.
07:27And how do you do that?
07:28When you are competent, when you are, you know, when you think, when you're very clear
07:34thinking in your mind, when you are very, you know, used to being cool and calm and composed
07:40under pressure in a crisis.
07:42That is what is there.
07:43A crisis happens even in a medical emergency as well as something which happens in a conflict
07:48in a field area.
07:49So that these are some of the qualities that you require.
07:53You need to be able to build a team.
07:55You need to be able to the team to have trust in you.
07:58You need to lead them by example.
08:01And we get this opportunity in the armed forces beautifully by our training courses that are
08:06given to us by our organization.
08:08So we start training people immediately after the internship.
08:11So we have leadership courses when they do the internship, after they do the specialization,
08:16after they do the super specialization, we continuously keep training them as to how to handle.
08:21So there is leadership at different levels.
08:23You first look after a little, you know, a medical inspection room that you are in charge
08:27or a sick bay in a ship.
08:29But you learn how to manage those four men.
08:31That also is leadership.
08:32We always think of leadership as something very large.
08:35But leadership begins right at the bottom of the ladder.
08:37That is what is inculcated in the armed forces.
08:40And as you grow up in this ladder, I find that the leaders who learn as they grow up are
08:46the ones who actually are, you know, in leadership positions later.
08:50Any particular moment or memory you would like to share during their career?
08:55Oh, the moments are so many.
08:57I would just say very generalized moments, you know, when you were, you know, when you were
09:03an intern, the small success of a patient doing well as a specialist, you know, getting
09:08all those accolades from your patients and their relatives.
09:11And as you move up, you realize the successes of your teams and a lot of moments, you know,
09:20you did very, very some special things doing my super specialization in radiation oncology.
09:27I had a midlife change of career.
09:29I was, you know, I had the opportunity to work at the Totten Memorial Hospital for three
09:34years.
09:34I think that was also a very good eye opener, a learning experience to learn from my civilian
09:39colleagues.
09:40We still work so well together in civil military cooperation in so many ways.
09:46We sent out a lot of our students to other institutes to learn in their super specialization.
09:52So that helps us a lot in that way.
09:55So there were many moments.
09:56Another moment I remember was looking after the patients who were brought into Mumbai after
10:02the Gujarat earthquake.
10:03I was in charge of that ward.
10:06I helped in getting them all together, arranging some implants from them and then, you know,
10:11transferring them to the civil hospitals.
10:13Then I got another chance to go to, to be deployed, you know, to be deployed at Kashmir, January
10:19Kashmir in 1998-99.
10:23I had the opportunity of looking after industrial health at the Naval Dockyard in Mumbai where
10:30I looked after the health of almost 10,000 workers, industrial and non-industrial, and
10:35about 45,000 of their families and dependents who were there.
10:38Of course, including the naval officers and men who also worked there.
10:43So it was a very unique experience again of learning about how to look after civilians
10:47and their needs and their particular problems.
10:50So as I, you know, went up in my career, I got to do a whole set of diverse, you
10:56know,
10:57operations and responsibilities that I took on and it has helped me grow.
11:01Since you talked about working with the civilian doctors or in a civilian hospitals, because
11:07you people are the rare combination of wearing both the white coat and the military uniform.
11:13In fact, if you ask me, medicine is a branch which demands your intellect, demands your character
11:21and it makes you extremely resilient both mentally and physically.
11:25So, I would say that doctors throughout the country actually completely confirm to all these
11:33three things.
11:34And if you ask me, there is not much difference.
11:36But yes, as armed forces personnel, we are very, very honored as armed forces doctors.
11:42We get to wear two of the most respected uniforms in the world, the white coat as well as the
11:47uniform which is so respected.
11:48So, yes, we do bring in a little more factors of our training of the military which would
11:55come in would be mainly would be leadership and working as a team which even they do.
12:02But our leadership and teamwork would be because of our deployments of the way we have to work,
12:09the way we are suddenly called upon to do something, you know, the diversity of that, the movement
12:14of a humanitarian aid which even they would do at times.
12:17And I would say that we are, I mean medicine as a profession itself is very good.
12:22Yes, and armed forces takes it one step forward because of your team work and you know that
12:27you are doing something for the nation, for somebody who has laid down his life or is willing
12:32to lay down his life for the nation and you are protecting him.
12:35So, that gives your team and yourself a higher perspective.
12:37So, I would say commitment, camaraderie and the, you know, having a backing of a very,
12:42very dependable team is probably what would be an extra bonus being in the military, military
12:50medicine versus normal medicine.
12:52So, ma'am since the nature of warfare is changing drastically in recent years.
12:56So, how do you look into the overall operation of armed forces medical services like injuries
13:03are different of types?
13:05So, what are the new trends coming up in terms of medical treatment and all?
13:11Basically, we would be looking at trauma care and remote care, a combination of both of them.
13:18So, we are looking at improving our trends in casualty evacuation, in point of care, prolonged
13:25casualty care.
13:27So, we are trying to step up our, you know, devices which I mentioned earlier, we are trying
13:32to get miniaturized devices.
13:34We are finding methods of, you know, shortening the periods of casualty evacuation.
13:41So, Ma'am, Armed Forces Medical Services has also increasingly embraced the research and
13:47innovations.
13:47So, what type of new research or new people working on anything you would like to share?
13:54Yes.
13:55So, we have recently been given the facility of, you know, expanding the research and innovations
14:03that we are doing.
14:04We have had tie-ups particularly with ICMR, with IIT Chennai, IIT Kanpur, IIT Delhi and Indian
14:13Institute of Science at Bangalore.
14:15So, we are working on several projects that are related to the services that would help
14:20us do better as a force.
14:23So, of course, the subjects of which I cannot reveal because the subjects of research are
14:27never, you know, brought out.
14:29But, yes, we have been facilitated on that aspect.
14:33We are also collaborating with DRDO and we are looking forward to the results of many
14:37such projects.
14:39COVID-19 was a one of its kind of event, Ma'am, which testes every medical facilities,
14:45capacity of medical facilities, whether we talk about the Armed Forces or the civilian infrastructure.
14:50So, how you people dealt with this, Ma'am?
14:53So, like you said, you know, it tested everybody's capacity and capability.
14:58Like I mentioned in my earlier, you know, when you asked me that earlier question, when I
15:03said it, you know, it tests your intellect, it tests your capacity, it tests your resilience.
15:08So, it did all three.
15:10It also brought us to realize that we may be all well set for everything, but we can get
15:17surprises like this, where we do not know the organism or how to deal with it.
15:22But the best part was the human component of it, which were the doctors, the, you know,
15:28the allied health professionals, the nurses that all came forward and did their very best,
15:34despite knowing that they would be also coming to harm.
15:38They did not, they did not even once in the Armed Forces, refuse any responsibility,
15:45including the ones which were in the wards.
15:47Many of the allied health professionals and the M.N.S. officers, they, they were,
15:52they were into their sixth shifts many times.
15:55It was really, very, you know, very, very creditable for doctors in the Armed Forces,
16:02as well as outside.
16:04I think it was a movement for the country.
16:07So, we are used to, what came forward for the rest of the, you know, preparations was
16:12the preparedness.
16:13So, the Armed Forces medical services usually are always prepared 24 into 7 into 365 for,
16:21you know, any, any eventuality.
16:23And I would say the icing on the cake was the cooperation that we received from our
16:29non-medical counterparts in the Armed Forces, who helped us at every, every step and every
16:35stage whenever we needed them.
16:37So, they were there to help us with logistic support and we were there to provide medical
16:41support.
16:42So, I think the Armed Forces did very well during COVID.
16:45Any particular moment that still haunts you or I would rather reframe it still in your
16:50memories?
16:51Yes, I was commanding INHS Ashwini, an 875 bed hospital in 21 at the peak of phase 2 of
17:00COVID.
17:01And at that point of time, the oxygen shortage that was there throughout the country was
17:07affecting everybody.
17:08But like you said, we had already planned.
17:10So, we were, we did our perspective planning and getting that one set of supply of oxygen
17:18from Jamnagar was a major exercise for me and my hospital and help from my non-medical
17:25colleagues at Jamnagar.
17:26And I think that's a memory that always haunts me that when you put your mind to something,
17:32it will happen.
17:33The oxygen came to us within 24 hours.
17:36And that will always stay with me and saved so many lives.
17:39So, ma'am, veterans in army or always in the Armed Forces Medical Services called their lifelong
17:45members.
17:47So, what new things are there in pipeline for them or how you people are taking care of
17:52them?
17:53I would say about the, the veterans are extremely well cared for.
17:59We have a great deal of respect for people who have spent their entire life in the service
18:04of the nation.
18:05The individual services have separate departments and various cells which are now headed by senior
18:13officers that look after all these aspects of their welfare.
18:17They have a scheme called the ECHS which looks after their healthcare.
18:21And whenever any of them wants to come to our hospitals, we, we take full care of them.
18:28Since you are from the family of the services, lot of people are in your family are in Navy
18:33and the other forces as well.
18:34So, for you, it was not as much difficult to choose this service.
18:38But there are a lot of girls in the country, those who feel, no, will it be safe for me?
18:45Will it be easy for me?
18:47Or will it be more difficult for me?
18:48So, would you like to suggest something, anything to them, ma'am?
18:52How they plan a career if they want to join forces?
18:55Join the armed forces.
18:56In fact, I would just like to give a message to all the girls that, if I had to do
19:02it again,
19:02I would do it the same way.
19:03I think it is one of the nicest careers that a, a doctor, a medical officer should have,
19:10whether he is, you know, a boy or a girl, because I'm, like I mentioned earlier,
19:15the armed forces medical services is an extremely gender neutral force.
19:19And, you know, we are, there is no differentiation between a boy or a girl.
19:25It just depends on your performance, your competence and your diligence throughout whatever you
19:31do.
19:31You have a career which is so well set in front of you.
19:34You have a choice whether you want to do a short service commission or a permanent commission.
19:38You can join a short service commission and decide whether you want to stay, whether you
19:42like the forces and stay on.
19:44You will get an education.
19:46Ah, for if you join AFMC, you can always join directly from outside as a short service commission,
19:51as an MBBS from outside.
19:53You will get the opportunity to do a post graduation.
19:56You will get one if you are a permanent commission, you get a opportunity to do a super specialization.
20:00And, then move up in leadership positions and get promoted to higher ranks.
20:05You get to see ah the most modern hospitals.
20:09You get to learn how to work in field hospitals, adventure, sports.
20:15So, many other aspects.
20:17A very good quality of life.
20:19The comradery of the armed forces family.
20:22I think it is, and a lot of support from our male colleagues here.
20:27I would like to compliment on that.
20:29So, I think it is a brilliant career and a lot of women should join the armed forces
20:34and the armed forces medical services.
20:36Now, let us talk about the some humanitarian things or the efforts armed forces medical
20:41services has done in recent past.
20:44So, what was your experience towards that and if any particular moment you want to recall?
20:49So, the armed forces medical services apart from its role in, you know, in peace and conflict
20:54always takes on the responsibility of delivering humanitarian aid, the HADR missions as we call them.
21:01We have consistently been doing that for a long time.
21:06At any disaster that happens, whether it is floods, earthquakes, landslides, anything,
21:12the armed forces along with the NDRF usually provides, they provide very good synergy care,
21:18you know, symbiotic way to reach a site as fast as possible, rescue people and then we come
21:25in there to look after those patients either on the spot or the ones who have been evacuated
21:31from there.
21:31So, there have been many, some of which I can recall is what I told you about the Bhuja
21:36where patients were evacuated by ship from Bhuja and brought to Mumbai and then we had,
21:42during Covid, we had Operation Samudra Setu where I was Command Medical Officer in Southern
21:47Naval Command and I looked after the medical aspects of that operation where we first and
21:53foremost evacuated the Indian expats from the Middle East, brought them back.
21:59We looked after the, you know, the various Covid protocols that were to be done.
22:02We also gave, you know, brought in some medical supplies, we delivered vaccines.
22:07So, that was during Covid and there have been many such operations after that.
22:13Recently, we have had the 60 Para Field Hospital which is a part of the Army Medical Co-op which
22:20comes under the 50 Para Brigade of the Indian Army and this is a hospital which has a very,
22:27very, very, very, you know, long history.
22:31They are a very respected unit which worked in Korea in the 1950s and provided medical care
22:37there for four years.
22:38They are still, they are still recognized and they are still given a lot of credit for it by
22:45the Korean government as recently as two months ago.
22:48There is a war memorial, there is a memorial for them and there is a monument for them which
22:54was recently inaugurated by the Honorable Raksha Mantri in South Korea.
22:59This particular mobile Para Field Hospital went for the Turkey earthquake, then subsequently
23:08of Brahma in Myanmar, then Operation Sagar Bandhu along with the Indian Navy, they flew
23:17in to Sri Lanka during the Sri Lanka floods in December of 25 and as recently as just now,
23:24they flew within a few hours to Venezuela, the whole hospital and they established a hospital
23:31there as soon as they reached.
23:33Imagine after such a long travel, they were ready to go immediately.
23:37Right ma'am.
23:38So ma'am, coming back to your family again which is a deeply rooted by a naval tradition,
23:42your brother, father and husband all serving naval forces.
23:45So ma'am, how this experience or the surrounding, surrounded by these people shaped your career
23:52as a DG Armed Forces Medical Services?
23:55Yeah, I grew up in a house, my father was in the Navy, I grew up in Vishakhapatnam in one
24:00of the most, I would say memorable times of a childhood.
24:04I think I was very fortunate to have that kind of a childhood living in such a protected environment
24:08which was like living in a very large family, going to a wonderful school there, very diverse
24:14again because Vizag was a small place and everybody from Vizag went to just one or two or three schools.
24:20I think we learnt a lot from each other, that was my education.
24:24But at home, it was not like, you know, that we are sacrificing for the nation or something.
24:30It was like, it is a way of life, service is a way of life, you have to be disciplined,
24:35you have to do things on time,
24:36you have to dress well, you have to look, so those kind of qualities got imbibed in me.
24:41And then as I looked at a career choice, you know, it became much easier for me.
24:46Then there were role models which you saw, you know, around you.
24:49There were these young doctors, Surgeon Lieutenant Malapande, I always remember her, my senior.
24:53She came in as a young doctor, when I saw her, I think that was the final one.
24:57When I decided I want to be like her and I want to join.
25:00I anyway wanted to be a doctor and I wanted to join the armed forces.
25:04I said this is a very good combination where I can have both.
25:07And all of these values that we learnt along the way.
25:10My school was highly influenced by the armed forces, by the Indian Navy.
25:13We used to have the Navy band for our sports day, we would have physical training was excellent.
25:18It was based on the armed forces.
25:20So it was a very easy transition for me.
25:22It was a way of life for me and still is one way of life and I would choose none
25:26other.
25:27So ma'am, looking back on your journey so far, what gives you the greatest satisfaction today?
25:34Like I told you in my earlier conversation, I have had many series of satisfactions during my career.
25:39But the greatest satisfaction is that I lead a team of extremely motivated, excellent, disciplined officers of all the three
25:51forces.
25:52And the fact that I have been able to introduce a lot of technology and you know, equip my hospitals
26:00well, change a lot of training rules and change a lot of training methodologies, introduce newer systems, particularly digitization.
26:12So I think all that gives me a great sense of satisfaction that I have contributed in some small way
26:20to the progress of the armed forces medical services in providing the highest level of care to the soldier, sailor
26:28and the airman what they truly deserve.
26:31That artificial intelligence is transforming every aspect of life these days.
26:37So how do you see the role of future of military medicine if we talk about inclusion of artificial intelligence?
26:45So artificial intelligence is going to be a very integral part of everything that is happening
26:50today and medicine is no exception.
26:52We will use it as a tool that will help the doctor in clinical decision making, in helping
27:00in a lot of you know individual and precision based tailoring of treatments.
27:05It is particularly helpful in diagnostics, in pathology and radiology.
27:09It will bring to our attention and save time with many you know issues that would take a lot of
27:15time and leave time for the doctor to look at his patients and talk to them
27:20rather than spending so much of time on various clerical aspects which will be now taken care of by AI.
27:27AI will help health insurance systems, it will help hospital information management systems.
27:32Do you see, do you believe India will one day see the women leading all three services?
27:39Yes, I firmly believe that that will happen, that they are being trained, they are being given the opportunity right
27:47now.
27:47There are more than 21 branches in the other arms and services that now have women who are doing extremely
27:55well
27:55and with time and space whenever that happens, it takes time for these things because they have been inducted only
28:04in 1992.
28:05But certainly the way they are going and the way they are being trained and the way they are performing,
28:11I am very certain.
28:13And I am really looking forward to that day when we see them in the highest position.
28:17So how do you see India, India's disease burden and what should be done?
28:21So yes, two major concerns are, you know, the non-communicable diseases like diabetes as well as hypertension and heart
28:31disease.
28:31And as well as cancer, both of them are really concerned now.
28:38The Ministry of Health and Family Welfare has put out various steps.
28:42We take all our, you know, we follow all our guidelines etc. which are set by the Ministry of Health
28:48and Family Welfare in a similar manner.
28:50And yes, this burden is rising.
28:53The only way we can handle it is by having a proactive rather than a reactive approach by preventing certain
29:01diseases,
29:02by altering our lifestyle and habits and which should start very early which I would say at school level.
29:10At the children should be made aware particularly of obesity which is a rising issue in our country.
29:17There was a recent report by the ICMR last week on the rising incidence of obesity amongst children.
29:23It is a matter of grave concern because we will have them develop all these conditions that
29:30we have just spoken about much earlier than other individuals would have, you know, may be a decade earlier.
29:37So, these are things that we have to do.
29:39We have to look at our nutrition.
29:40We have to look at our diet.
29:41We have to look at our lifestyle and management of stress.
29:45Ma'am, you have a remarkable background in the radiation oncology and the gamma knife surgery as well.
29:50So, which requires a highly specialized medical expertise.
29:54So, how did you adapt those skills for a focused clinical environment?
29:59Any particular incident which turns yourself towards these kinds of specialized options?
30:04See, I mean if you look at the environment that you are talking about the specialized environment
30:10maybe you know in conflict areas, battlefield areas.
30:13If you look at it on the face both these two things are very different.
30:16But you know gamma knife surgery, oncology treatments, they are all very precision based.
30:23We are looking at best results.
30:25We are looking at best what is there for the patient with the minimum number of side effects
30:30in terms of long term.
30:32And we can just transfer this whole concept towards you know what we do in in time in
30:39times of conflict or in humanitarian missions or you know missions that we have to conduct.
30:45Where we have to take very quick decisions and very very critical ones with very little
30:50time to spare.
30:51So, this kind of training helps you in doing that.
30:55Because whatever even this is a kind of a decision making which is very precise.
30:58It involves the life of a patient and very similarly here where we keep the patient in mind.
31:05The patient here is a soldier who the team now recognizes has a bigger mission because
31:10there is a mission and there is a national issue here.
31:14So, we keep that in mind.
31:15So, that drives us even further with all the qualities that we have got from this training
31:20which is the clinical training.
31:23With the non-communicable diseases cancer cases are also on rise in India.
31:27So, any specific thing would like to share to the people so that they can get more aware
31:34of.
31:34Yes, I would just yes I would cancer is on the rise.
31:38The global can 22 figures are there to say that.
31:42We have to find a way of increasing awareness.
31:46I mean right down to the last man they should know about the awareness that yes finding this
31:53disease early will will make it much easier to manage and much you know it will cost the
31:59government also much less to do so.
32:01So, we need to increase awareness through various health camps awareness campaigns.
32:07We need to alter our lifestyle.
32:10We need to avoid very definite carcinogens like tobacco and we need to avoid them.
32:19We need to make everybody aware of the fact that these are harmful substances.
32:23So, I am just curious what is the difference between civilian medical hospital facilities
32:29and in military medicine facilities because in emergency type of situations you people are
32:35kind of more involved into the things and with the many of the times there won't be adequate
32:41facilities available there as compared to civilian hospitals.
32:44So, how you people take these kind of quick decisions in lot of stress and how you manage
32:49things there.
32:49Like I told you we are trained to do these kind of things and even the civilian medical
32:55officers are trained to handle emergencies.
32:57They also adapt very well when we work with them in some of these humanitarian missions
33:01when they join us.
33:02But yes, we do it much more often and we are trained like I told you at every step of
33:07our
33:07careers.
33:08So, they will be in a team you will have a junior officer, a middle officer, a commanding officer.
33:13So, they would have already been through the process many times before.
33:16So, they are well trained towards this particular aspect of the you know these kind of missions.
33:22We have we are equipped to do so and we we have methodologies of reaching places because
33:30the armed forces is provides you with all those means of transportation to reach those places
33:37earlier.
33:37And we are motivated highly motivated force because again we work as a large team which
33:43works with each other a lot because we are you know a cohesive force.
33:48So, I think that is one of the only difference that we can see that we are trained to work
33:54in remote
33:55and limited resource methodologies.
33:58So, one last final question ma'am because we are dealing with the modern warfare.
34:03So, drones, cyber wars are there and in recent one of his speeches PM Modi has said that we
34:10are living in a bloodless war kind of age.
34:12So, what are the maximum things you want to include should be included in the armed forces
34:19medical services to deal with the these kind of new challenges.
34:22So, we are looking at all the other militaries and other you know armed forces and lessons
34:28learned from recent conflicts.
34:30So, yes we are also looking at adapting all these technologies wearable technologies to
34:36be able to track a person who might be injured a little distance away from you.
34:40The use of drones for logistics for supplying blood for supplying medicines and one day may
34:46be evacuating a person that technology is still not available because of the weight factors.
34:53So, we are looking at whatever is being adopted by other countries we are also on the way to
35:00looking at the same in terms of all these devices.
35:05Right.
35:06So, thank you so much ma'am for taking out time for ATV.
35:08Thank you so much.
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