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00:00:07Joining us is our first ever guest here on Shine Time, the Hall of Famer, the outstanding
00:00:13head coach at St. John's, my guy, the great Rick Pitino.
00:00:18You really are the master of the transfer portal, and a lot of coaches in all different
00:00:23college sports can complain about things.
00:00:25How do you do it so well?
00:00:27What's the key?
00:00:29Well, it is really difficult because you're watching all types of film in a very short
00:00:34window.
00:00:35You're speaking to agents.
00:00:36You're not sure who's going in the portal, so you've got to get three or four at each
00:00:40position.
00:00:41Then you've got to understand the work ethic.
00:00:44That's the number one key.
00:00:46Is he willing to pay the price to work?
00:00:48And if he is, then you have a good chance.
00:00:51You know, often players will ask me, can you get me to the NBA level?
00:00:55And I always say, absolutely not.
00:00:57I can get you to reach your potential.
00:00:59If that's good enough for the NBA, they will decide that.
00:01:04And it's up to the Knicks.
00:01:06It's up to the Celtics.
00:01:07It's up to the San Antonio Spurs.
00:01:09They determine whether you're a draft choice.
00:01:11But we will get you to reach your potential.
00:01:13Jim Boeheim once told me, our mutual friend, you are the best X's and O's coach that has
00:01:18ever coached in college basketball.
00:01:21What's your reaction to that?
00:01:22Well, it's very nice.
00:01:24Probably not true, but it's very nice.
00:01:26You know, I think what the culture that we bring to the table is we try not to leave
00:01:34any stone unturned.
00:01:35We try to get every player development during the mornings to get them to their highest point.
00:01:41We try to turn over every scouting, every analytic to get ready for an opponent.
00:01:47But there are a lot of great coaches in our game.
00:01:50I think that the way you have to look at it is you've got to love the game.
00:01:54You've got to eat, sleep, and drink the game.
00:01:57You've got to put players first.
00:01:59And if you do all that, you'll be successful.
00:02:03Jim Boeheim is a sports junkie, not just basketball.
00:02:06He was the first one when it was all said and done to say Tom Brady was going to be
00:02:10a
00:02:10superstar in the National Football League in a Syracuse-Michigan game.
00:02:14He's like, I'm telling you, everyone's talking Drew Henson.
00:02:16It's Tom Brady.
00:02:17Jim, how did you know Tom Brady was going to turn out to be the GOAT?
00:02:21How did you do that?
00:02:22I mean, it's just, it's a lucky guess, probably.
00:02:25I'm not that smart.
00:02:26I like football and I watch it, but, you know, once you meet him, you know,
00:02:31he's got the poise and the character and the work ethic to be that way.
00:02:36It was a great meld, him and Bill Belichick.
00:02:40You know, everybody's blaming Belichick that he couldn't do it without Brady.
00:02:44I don't think Brady would have done it without him either,
00:02:46and I think Brady has said that many times too.
00:02:48But I just think that, you know, we all make predictions,
00:02:53and, you know, every once in a while we get one right.
00:02:56We got that one right.
00:02:59That's good, you know.
00:03:00The problem with the media, guys, and you two,
00:03:02you make a lot of predictions about the night and the night wrong.
00:03:07You go back to the one, oh, I made that.
00:03:10I got that.
00:03:11I predicted that.
00:03:13That's why you're the best, Coach.
00:03:16You've been a Knicks fan your whole life.
00:03:18How do you describe what you see when you watch Jalen Brunson?
00:03:23He's just a dog.
00:03:24He's amazing.
00:03:25I mean, you see the footwork of Kobe.
00:03:27He's got that Kobe mentality.
00:03:29His ability to adjust.
00:03:31I think when his shot wasn't falling at the beginning of this stretch
00:03:34and he just has 15 assists back-to-back games,
00:03:37that's when we're at our best, I think,
00:03:38when you don't know what we're going to do.
00:03:41Like, the fact that he's getting everyone going,
00:03:43OG's going, Cat's going, you know,
00:03:46everybody's hitting shots.
00:03:47When Josh doesn't think, but he just kind of reacts
00:03:50and there's this unpredictability to our offense,
00:03:52I think the Knicks are really scary.
00:03:53So, yeah, I mean, what Jalen's brought to the Knicks
00:03:56is this kind of, you know, composure and this belief
00:03:59that even if he has an off game, he's going to bounce back
00:04:02and he's going to do it.
00:04:03I mean, he's just – how many small guards have you seen like this
00:04:07in the game's history?
00:04:08You know, it's like Isaiah Thomas, Iverson, obviously Steph,
00:04:13but, you know, it's a short list of small guards.
00:04:15You're like, damn, this guy's a closer.
00:04:17You had the best tweets of anyone on Bam Adebayo scoring 83,
00:04:22which to me was not a classic game in any way, shape, or form.
00:04:26And I still think what Kobe did, that was a million times better.
00:04:30Bam Adebayo 83, like Brendan Fraser winning the Oscar.
00:04:35Take us through it.
00:04:36Oh, yeah, we didn't see it coming, you know.
00:04:39Always thought he was good, but we didn't know that good, you know.
00:04:43Always liked Brendan Fraser.
00:04:45Look, Bam's a great player.
00:04:46I always loved how he played, but you don't expect like a defense guy
00:04:50to drop 83.
00:04:52And look, I feel bad for the guy a little bit.
00:04:54He does this amazing accomplishment and everyone's just like,
00:04:57this fucking pussy?
00:04:58You know, like everyone's like, well, this guy?
00:05:00Like, who cares?
00:05:01It's a pretty impressive feat.
00:05:0283 points, no matter how you do it.
00:05:04They show Wemby and he's like, whatever.
00:05:06And it's like, sorry, Wemby.
00:05:08Sorry my 83 wasn't good enough.
00:05:10Granted, he did it on 43 free throws, but that's what happens when you play a shit team
00:05:14like the Wizards.
00:05:15Awful.
00:05:16Thank God they have Trey Young there.
00:05:17He has to live in purgatory for the rest of his life.
00:05:19Yeah, he'll be rich, but he'll be a sad rich.
00:05:22He won't be a happy rich.
00:05:23He'll be a miserable guy.
00:05:25And the Wizards are a terrible franchise.
00:05:28And that's what happens.
00:05:30You foul this guy that many times.
00:05:32Yeah, he was foul baiting a little at the end, I guess.
00:05:34But you got to give him his flowers.
00:05:35And it's cool that he did it in front of his girlfriend.
00:05:38I feel like usually these NBA players, either their girlfriend or like a hot lady,
00:05:43they're trying to impress him in the crowd.
00:05:45They bring the heat.
00:05:46Listen, I'm with you completely.
00:05:48And I feel bad for Bam.
00:05:50But, you know, I love the way he plays.
00:05:52I love his style.
00:05:53But, you know, it's Washington, as you said.
00:05:56You framed it eloquently.
00:05:57And they're sort of hacking everybody.
00:06:00I remember Sidney Sweeney was at the Comedy Cellar one night.
00:06:03And I was like, I better bring it.
00:06:04As if, like, she's going to leave her boyfriend because I have a hot set.
00:06:07Like, I'm such a dipshit.
00:06:09I was like, I don't know.
00:06:10Did you hear that eight-minute joke about my penis?
00:06:13It's pretty good, Sidney Sweeney.
00:06:14What do you think?
00:06:15Listen, I'd be inspired if Sidney Sweeney wants to come to the next Shine Time.
00:06:18I'd all of a sudden do the best show I've ever done.
00:06:21I don't know.
00:06:22I don't think it's going to be a good sports show.
00:06:23I don't think she knows sports.
00:06:25I take my chances, though.
00:06:26I take my chances.
00:06:27Yeah, you've got to take your chances.
00:06:28All right, give me your favorite Nick Celebrity Row fan.
00:06:32Your favorite Knicks fan on Celebrity Row.
00:06:35Ooh.
00:06:36Who do you want to sit next to?
00:06:38That's a good question.
00:06:38Yeah, if you can have one seat next to one Celebrity Knicks fan,
00:06:42who is it and why?
00:06:44Who's not, like, one of my friends.
00:06:46Right, correct.
00:06:46Take all friends out.
00:06:48Damn.
00:06:49I don't know, man.
00:06:50There's so many.
00:06:52Marbury, being near Marbury is kind of cool because he's such a hardcore fan.
00:06:57I sat next to Sprewell once, and that was really fun because he was laughing at my antics,
00:07:02and that's all you want as a comedian.
00:07:03That's it, yeah.
00:07:04We were playing the Thunder when they had Josh Giddey, and let's just say I was making a
00:07:08few pedo jokes, and Sprewell was smiling, and I do an annoying thing when I'm under the
00:07:14basket where they're shooting free throws, and I just start, like, tap dancing, kind
00:07:18of, and I start stomping, and it's annoying because you feel it on the floor.
00:07:22The building shakes.
00:07:24So I did it once, and Giddey missed both free throws, and Sprewell was like, holy shit,
00:07:28it works.
00:07:28And I was like, yeah, dude.
00:07:29I'm firing up Sprewell.
00:07:31So, yeah, you make a few jokes about Giddey, and that was pretty cool.
00:07:37It was near Starks once.
00:07:38That was pretty badass.
00:07:39After a big run of high-five from Starks, the child in you is like, oh, this is pretty
00:07:43epic.
00:07:44So any of the former players who are still really supportive, it's cool.
00:07:48It's cool to be near Stiller if he's ever at a game because he's like a real fan.
00:07:53You know, near Tracy Morgan's fun because you can't understand half the shit he's saying,
00:07:58but it's always, I remember one time we were at a game, my friend and I, and we're behind
00:08:03him, and Michael Beasley for the Knicks just went off, and he's just having the game of
00:08:08his life.
00:08:09He's just cooking, and we're like, oh, shit, this is amazing.
00:08:12It's cool to watch a guy like Beasley just in his element, a guy with that much talent,
00:08:15and goes off, and Tracy just turns behind us, and he goes to, he looks at both of us
00:08:20and goes, real animals eat meat.
00:08:23And we're like, yeah, fuck yeah.
00:08:25But then you think about it, you're like, I guess there's like omnivores too, but you're
00:08:28like, in the moment, you're like, hell yeah.
00:08:30Yeah.
00:08:30I mean, that's all that matters, yes.
00:08:32Yeah, dude.
00:08:33It was cool.
00:08:36How do you compare calling World Series games to WBC games?
00:08:43It's a great question, you know, because I've heard a lot of the guys, even Aaron Judge,
00:08:49saying that this has exceeded what the World Series games felt like for him.
00:08:54It's just different, Adam.
00:08:56It's different.
00:08:58I don't know that I would say it feels, it does not feel bigger, but it does feel like
00:09:05it taps into a deeper level of importance and passion specifically for the Latin American
00:09:12countries.
00:09:12You really can feel, not just in the amount of noise and the percentage of the crowd
00:09:18that sways in the Dominicans' direction and in the Venezuelans' direction, not just by
00:09:23sheer volume, but there's something intangible about what it means to them that really does
00:09:29come through in the environment in these games that doesn't make it better or worse.
00:09:36It's just different from World Series games.
00:09:38I need a thesaurus to describe Shohei Ohtani.
00:09:41You call his games locally, nationally, every game that matters for Shohei, all his iconic
00:09:46playoff games.
00:09:48What words will you use, do you use, in describing the unicorn?
00:09:53Yeah, I'm going to need that same thesaurus because I'm running out of stuff, right?
00:09:57Two years of being with the team and he's got two championships.
00:10:01The cool thing is, Adam, while we may be running out of words to describe, he's not running
00:10:06out of things that we need to describe.
00:10:09He's coming up with new elements every year.
00:10:13So two years ago, he can't pitch.
00:10:15What's he do?
00:10:15He decides to steal 58 bases or whatever it was.
00:10:19Last year, he returns to two-way duty and pitches in the World Series for the first time.
00:10:24This year, does he make a run at his first Cy Young?
00:10:27That's, and it seems outlandish to say, like, come on.
00:10:31But should anything really feel outlandish with him?
00:10:34And if there's one thing that you can count on, even if you don't know what it's going
00:10:38to be, you know it's going to be something.
00:10:40You know that he's going to have that pie in the sky, that cherry that he's aiming for.
00:10:44And that's the one thing that he doesn't have.
00:10:47So I don't think it's a crazy thing to say that he probably is going to have that set
00:10:52as a goal to push for this year.
00:10:56You had this with the Raiders, obviously, with Gruden, and it was an unbelievable marriage.
00:11:01I mean, you guys, I mean, you know, the NFL films with Gannon and Gruden was unbelievable
00:11:06always.
00:11:07And, you know, you have to have that in the NFL.
00:11:10And I love Clint Kubiak in general.
00:11:12I love him specifically with Mendoza.
00:11:15So take us through that relationship, why it's so important, and what the Raiders will be
00:11:21getting with that kind of marriage here with the head coach, play caller, and the young
00:11:25quarterback.
00:11:26Adam, this is a brilliant question because I was with Clint Kubiak last Tuesday, and I
00:11:32asked him that specifically.
00:11:33I said, what's that relation?
00:11:35How involved are you going to be?
00:11:37Are you going to call the plays?
00:11:38Are you going to be in the quarterback room, meeting room?
00:11:41He said, yes.
00:11:42He knows how critically important that is to have that relationship, to be able to have
00:11:47those conversations on a daily basis about the game plan, what the quarterback
00:11:51likes, what he doesn't like, what the quarterback's thinking.
00:11:53And most importantly, and I mentioned this to Fernando Mendoza at the Super Bowl, you
00:11:58know, you and I were together that week.
00:11:59I said to him, you have to understand the why.
00:12:04The why is critically important for any quarterback in a national football league.
00:12:08Why is the coach calling the play?
00:12:09What is the coach anticipating?
00:12:11You know, those type of conversations that you have on a daily basis, that's why I think
00:12:15whoever the play caller is, and it's going to be Clint Kubiak, has to spend a lot of time
00:12:20with this young quarterback.
00:12:22Do you have a comp, whether it's someone who's playing now or someone who played in
00:12:28different eras?
00:12:29I mean, I've actually compared Mendoza to Jared Goff or Matt Ryan as an ultimate compliment
00:12:34or Kirk Cousins, frankly, Rich.
00:12:36Anyone strike in terms of a comparison for Raiders fans watching?
00:12:40Well, I think he's bigger than Cousins.
00:12:42I think he's probably a better athlete.
00:12:45I think he has no problem leaving the pocket.
00:12:48He can run for a couple first downs every week.
00:12:50That's not something that Kirk Cousins is comfortable doing.
00:12:54He's more of a pocket rhythm type passer.
00:12:57But, Adam, I just, I don't think he's even scratched the surface.
00:13:02You know, people talk about his arm talent.
00:13:03Look, when you're that young and you've been in school and you're doing all these things,
00:13:08you're going to be a pro player.
00:13:09You're going to be every day at the facility.
00:13:11Here's the great part.
00:13:13He's already learning the playbook.
00:13:14I mean, think about that.
00:13:16I mean, Brian Greasy and him are spending a lot of time together.
00:13:18He's going to, he's going to, he had his pro day just yesterday.
00:13:22And, of course, next week, next Tuesday, he'll be at the Raider facility.
00:13:25So, I mean, this thing's moving along fast.
00:13:28And I'm excited.
00:13:29I think he's going to be much further along than most rookie quarterbacks.
00:13:33I think they're spending a lot of time this offseason trying to indoctrinate him
00:13:36and get him comfortable with the playbook.
00:13:38I think he's got, he has the capacity to handle a lot of volume and information.
00:13:43That's exciting.
00:13:45And, you know, I'm just, I'm thrilled for this guy because, you know,
00:13:49when you sit down and you visit with him, he comes from a great family.
00:13:52He's very genuine.
00:13:54He's hardcore.
00:13:55It's important to him.
00:13:57He asks the right questions.
00:13:59I think he has natural leadership skills.
00:14:01This is what this organization has been craving for, for a long, long time.
00:14:07What was your favorite match and or favorite win of your career?
00:14:12Okay.
00:14:13So, my favorite win was definitely beating Roger at the Olympics.
00:14:18I looked at Roger at that time as the greatest of all time at that point.
00:14:21He was number one in the world.
00:14:22He had beaten me probably already nine times.
00:14:24And I just couldn't get over that hump.
00:14:26I couldn't beat him.
00:14:27And beating him at the Olympics with USA on my chest, that was absolutely,
00:14:31unbelievably special.
00:14:32I really didn't get very nervous playing tennis because I was always prepared.
00:14:35But the times I did get nervous were when there was USA on my chest because I
00:14:38felt like you're not playing just for yourself.
00:14:40You're playing for something that means more.
00:14:43You got more eyes on you and more people that care about you out of their
00:14:48patriotism, out of everything that you represent when you're out there.
00:14:52And I wanted to act better.
00:14:54I wanted to play better.
00:14:55I wanted to do everything I could to show that I was proud to play with the
00:14:58Stars and Stripes on my chest.
00:15:00So, I was always, that one was probably my favorite.
00:15:03Probably my most memorable match was the one against Andre, though, which is a
00:15:08little sad that there was a loss.
00:15:09And I joke now, I've talked to Andre so many times, that at that night he said,
00:15:14oh, well, tennis was really the winner tonight.
00:15:15And I didn't want to hear that at the time because I just lost.
00:15:18I was so frustrated.
00:15:20But, you know, the wisdom after, when you add in the time frame, he was very wise
00:15:25that night.
00:15:25And it's true because it's 20-something years later now, and I still have people
00:15:30come up to me telling me they were at that match, they were watching on TV,
00:15:33they were cheering for me, they were cheering for him.
00:15:35And to know that I was a part of something that's still in people's memories 20
00:15:40years later, you know, that is a win for tennis because that means that match was
00:15:44really memorable and that match made a difference in other people's lives,
00:15:47whether it was just for a couple of hours, it brought them some joy.
00:15:51And we were out there competing, doing absolutely everything we could to win
00:15:54that match.
00:15:54That's another one where, like, I did everything I could to win, didn't quite
00:15:58win, lost to a great champion in Andre, so I have nothing to be ashamed of.
00:16:02But, of course, I wish I had won that match, you know, gotten me further in the
00:16:05U.S.
00:16:05Open and given me a chance to accomplish something else in my career.
00:16:09But I lost to a great champion, I did absolutely everything I could, so that
00:16:13night I was very, very frustrated and didn't get to sleep at all.
00:16:16But now I can sleep just fine knowing that I did everything I could in my power
00:16:20to win that match, and Andre was just better that night.
00:16:22I've made a case that Djokovic is the greatest of all time, and I know the
00:16:26respect level that you have for him.
00:16:28I love what you said on ESPN last year when you felt like he was even better than
00:16:32ever.
00:16:33Because I got it.
00:16:34Like, I understood exactly what you were saying.
00:16:36Do you consider him the GOAT, and who's on your all-time men's tennis Mount
00:16:42Rushmore?
00:16:43Oh, that's a good question.
00:16:44Yeah, he's the GOAT.
00:16:45I mean, he's got every accolade you can imagine.
00:16:48He's got more weeks number one, more Grand Slams, more Masters 1000s.
00:16:52He's done it all.
00:16:54And absolutely, he's the GOAT.
00:16:56So he's, of course, on the Mount Rushmore.
00:16:58And you pretty much have to put the big three up there, is Roger Rafa and Novak as
00:17:03the three up there.
00:17:04And so it's just a matter of who's the fourth.
00:17:06And you've got two guys right now that are competing to be that fourth, and they
00:17:10might, by the end of their careers, in center and Alcaraz, be up there.
00:17:12But if I had to put one more to put up there, I'm probably going to take Pete.
00:17:18Yes!
00:17:18I'm so glad you did that.
00:17:20I think people forget about what a legend he is.
00:17:22Take me through that.
00:17:23Yeah, and how incredible is that?
00:17:25That at 14 slams when he retired, that looked like that was never going to be
00:17:28touched.
00:17:28Because he was so, he had broken a record that stood for so long with Roy Emerson.
00:17:34And I think people forget just how good he was and how dominant he was on grass.
00:17:40And he was a much better athlete than a lot of people recognize and realize and give him
00:17:44credit for.
00:17:45Because a lot of people say, oh, he was a certain volleyer.
00:17:47He never would have made it in today's game.
00:17:49My goodness, he would have made it.
00:17:50He was an unbelievable athlete with a massive forehand and absolutely kind of underrated
00:17:56speed and athleticism.
00:17:57So he would have competed and he would have been one of the greats of all time in any
00:18:02generation.
00:18:02And he just didn't have the same, I don't know, PR team or marketing or anything like
00:18:09that back in then.
00:18:10Because he was very understated and he didn't go through all the histrionics.
00:18:15He didn't have a lot of crazy marketing campaigns.
00:18:18But he went out there and he took care of business.
00:18:20And the other thing I love about that is that's who he is.
00:18:23He's a genuine person.
00:18:24I would have hated to see him go out there and act like Marat Safin and smash rackets and
00:18:29break things and go crazy.
00:18:30But that's who Marat is.
00:18:32So I love seeing that.
00:18:33And I love people being genuine.
00:18:34And Sampras is genuine.
00:18:36That's who he is.
00:18:37He takes care of business on the court.
00:18:38And off the court, he's pretty quiet.
00:18:40He's a really nice person.
00:18:42And he'll still take credit for introducing me to my wife.
00:18:46So I got to give the legend credit there too.
00:18:49Because I met her at doing an exhibition with him.
00:18:52So he likes taking credit for that.
00:18:54But he's a great guy.
00:18:55And I think he's on the Mount Rushmore as well.
00:18:59You've been out of the ring for a while.
00:19:00I don't know if I want to call it retirements.
00:19:03But you've been out for a minute.
00:19:05So what made you decide to come back?
00:19:07And what do you want to accomplish?
00:19:09Well, there was actually a cascade of events that really brought me to it.
00:19:13A big one was actually watching Mike Tyson come back.
00:19:15Oh, wow.
00:19:16At almost 60 years old and putting on the most viewed fight of all time.
00:19:21You know, it wasn't a money grab.
00:19:23It wasn't a nostalgia event.
00:19:24It was something that was something real.
00:19:26Something that people missed and wanted to see.
00:19:28And so I knew that, you know, if I came back and the only person I would come back for
00:19:36would be Gina, that it would be huge.
00:19:38And I was nine months pregnant sitting on my office chair when I saw an interview that Gina gave.
00:19:45After she got canceled, she was going through a tough time.
00:19:50You could tell she was really unhealthy and gained a lot of weight.
00:19:52And I was like, damn, man, a fight between the two of us would be huge.
00:19:58And it would be, I think, not just what I need, but what she needs.
00:20:02And that's really what made me kind of like tip me the other way.
00:20:07You know, it wasn't just something that I felt was that I needed.
00:20:12I feel like it was something that she needed, too.
00:20:14So that's when I finally reached out.
00:20:15And she was down from the get-go.
00:20:17And you were nine months pregnant when you made that decision?
00:20:20Wow.
00:20:21That's crazy.
00:20:22I was already in a first.
00:20:24And of course, I'm like, hmm, I should fight about now.
00:20:28That's amazing.
00:20:28The thought bubble over your head as you're nine months pregnant is saying, you know what?
00:20:31I'm going to fight.
00:20:32How about the Olympic experience?
00:20:34I mean, you talk, I mean, the smile right there.
00:20:36I mean, what was that like in terms of pride, in terms of power, in terms of prestige, in terms
00:20:43of being a first, in terms of representing the country?
00:20:46I mean, that must have been something extra special for you.
00:20:49I mean, that was like my dream since I was like a little kid, is I wanted to be, you
00:20:54know, the first American to win the Olympics in judo.
00:20:56And I ended up being the first American woman to medal in judo.
00:21:01But I felt a little bit short of that goal.
00:21:05And I think I needed to fall short of it in order to have something in me left I felt
00:21:11like I needed to prove.
00:21:12And that's what really brought me into MMA.
00:21:15And I think that really training your whole life to be able to try and win on one day, nothing
00:21:22is ever going to compare to that pressure.
00:21:25And so everything else after that just seemed like, you know, WrestleMania or like fighting for UFC belts and stuff
00:21:33like that.
00:21:34It's not nearly as scary.
00:21:36Nothing is scarier than facing down your one opportunity to make your dreams come true at the Olympics.
00:21:44You reference real life Jerry Ferrara, of course, sitting courtside.
00:21:48I want a hypothetical for a second.
00:21:50If the entourage characters were courtside during this run, what would this scene be like?
00:22:01So, you know, historically the entourage guys, we lived in L.A.
00:22:04We always went to the Lakers game on the show, and it was always more – we made it more
00:22:09on the show about who's there and Jack Nicholson and all this fun stuff, where the after party was.
00:22:16To me, if the entourage guys were courtside, it would be very intense.
00:22:20At least my character would be.
00:22:22I think you would see – a cool thing would be after a Knicks win, bring Vinny Chase into the
00:22:28crowd outside the garden and stick him up on a light post.
00:22:31You're having this almost famous moment, shouting down to the fans.
00:22:36I think that – and Johnny Drama dropping to the knees, going victory.
00:22:39I think that would be a great episode.
00:22:41That would be amazing.
00:22:42I'd sign up for that right now.
00:22:44What are your expectations this year for John Harbaugh's Giants?
00:22:48I think you could really focus on that week one right out of the gate because I cannot remember the
00:22:52last time the Giants beat the Cowboys in an opener or week two or three.
00:22:57They got some late season wins with injuries all over the place.
00:23:01To me, if this team really is going to be different, you beat the Cowboys week one.
00:23:07Look, I love what they did with the draft, and I really, really think that – I mean, I don't
00:23:13know how close they are.
00:23:14People say they might be this year's Patriots.
00:23:15That's – a lot of things have to line up for that to happen.
00:23:18That's a big stretch.
00:23:19But I like this team in the East.
00:23:22I just think that they got the right guys.
00:23:24I think that offensive line is going to be good, and I love the way they're building the team.
00:23:26And we got the quarterback.
00:23:28That's the thing that – I'm sorry, I love the NFL, but it kind of begins and ends with that.
00:23:32You've got to have that guy.
00:23:34And they do, without question.
00:23:38I'm turning 49 next month.
00:23:40I've never seen a championship.
00:23:42You understand the connection between the fans of the city and the Knicks better than any human being on the
00:23:48planet.
00:23:49What would a parade this year look like and feel like?
00:23:55We'll need the National Guard.
00:23:58We'll need the National Guard, man, to protect these guys.
00:24:02You know, this doesn't even compare to when we played.
00:24:06When we played, there was no social media.
00:24:09And when we played in the old garden, there are no women or kids at the game.
00:24:14It's all guys.
00:24:16You know, there's a smoke cloud hanging over the scoreboard.
00:24:20You can't get to a phone.
00:24:21All the guys are calling the bookie to bet on the game.
00:24:25So only when we moved to MSG, where we are now, guys started to bring their girlfriends.
00:24:32You know, like 67, 68, 68, 69.
00:24:37Then we have matinees.
00:24:39They might bring some kids.
00:24:41And then Bradley came to read the Bush.
00:24:44So it was the place to be.
00:24:46They started showing up with women and different things.
00:24:49The celebrities started to come out.
00:24:51But we still have nothing like you see with what these Knicks have right now.
00:24:55You can't go anywhere.
00:24:56I can barely walk the street.
00:24:58You know, if they get to the final, win another championship, forget about it, man.
00:25:02A hundred percent.
00:25:04And the fans deserve it, man.
00:25:06These are the best fans, the most provocative, the most knowledgeable, the most caring.
00:25:11Look at how we take over arenas.
00:25:13We took over Philly.
00:25:14We go to Atlanta.
00:25:16You know, I'm sure they're going to be in Cleveland.
00:25:19So no other team has that.
00:25:21No other has that fan base like the Knicks.
00:25:23All right.
00:25:24Let's jog them at the Rolodex for a second.
00:25:26What did you wear?
00:25:27Because obviously your outfits are iconic to your Knicks parade.
00:25:32And what do you plan on wearing if and when the Knicks win a championship?
00:25:38It'll be something provocative.
00:25:40I can't remember what I wore during the championship.
00:25:43But, you know, I have to be styling and profiling for sure.
00:25:48So I'm living vicariously now with what the Knicks are doing.
00:25:51You know, I'm at all the games.
00:25:53I'm just not playing.
00:25:54So, you know, I'm there giving them encouragement that they can do it.
00:25:58And it's so nice to see all the other Knicks legends there as well.
00:26:03You know, it's like a family reunion.
00:26:04I see Patrick.
00:26:05I see Candyman.
00:26:06I see Spree.
00:26:08I see Allen, man.
00:26:09It's encouraging Bernard.
00:26:12So I'm sure all of these guys, they don't really know all of our legacies.
00:26:15But to see that kind of teamwork and cohesion, you know, it has to inspire them.
00:26:20Do you pick out the outfit for tonight or for these playoff games in advance?
00:26:25Will you pick something out if there's a parade in advance?
00:26:27How will you handle that?
00:26:29A lot of pressure, Clyde.
00:26:31Yeah, I know.
00:26:31First of all, I check out the weather.
00:26:33I have to see what the weather is.
00:26:35And then once I see the weather, I start trying to pick out an outfit.
00:26:40So the pressure is on every game.
00:26:42I got to step out, you know.
00:26:43So I enjoy it, you know.
00:26:45Like I tell people, this is how I used to roll, man.
00:26:49When we go on the road, I used to have a meat coat on.
00:26:52And I wore it like Al Capone.
00:26:53I'd throw it over my shoulders.
00:26:55You know, come in like, hey, man, we're in New York, baby.
00:26:58We're in New York.
00:26:59This is how we do it.
00:27:00So we had so much fun.
00:27:02I love that.
00:27:03That's something I've never replaced.
00:27:05You know, when you retire, it's something that gives you that challenge every other day to go out and be
00:27:09a champion, to rise to the occasion.
00:27:12So that's the void that once you retire, you can't feel that void.
00:27:20Please, producers, don't get mad at me.
00:27:22Adam says that we go way back.
00:27:24The audience needs to know that in 2004, when I'm a Syracuse University student with no prospects, with no connections,
00:27:32knowing no one in this business, I send out about 30 emails to people in this business.
00:27:36And only one person called me back.
00:27:39And that was Adam Schein pumping gas in his car.
00:27:42He no chance remembers this.
00:27:44But I was starstruck.
00:27:45I was blown away.
00:27:46And so anytime he asks me to do anything for him, I will forever be in debt.
00:27:50And in fact, when people reach out to me now, I remember Adam Schein and what he meant to me
00:27:54sitting in my dorm room at Syracuse, calling me for 20 minutes and allowing me to ask him questions.
00:27:58And so you are an all-time Hall of Fame, A-plus mention, in my opinion.
00:28:02And it's always a great, great honor to be on your show and call you a friend.
00:28:05You referenced Dana White.
00:28:07I mean, your rapport, your relationship with Dana.
00:28:09We've had the conversation before.
00:28:11It's been chronicled over the years.
00:28:14How would you describe it, Ariel, as we speak right now?
00:28:18My relationship with Dana White is non-existent.
00:28:20We don't have a relationship.
00:28:22The last time I spoke to Dana White was 2016.
00:28:24At a few press conferences, I've asked questions, but in terms of like a real private conversation, it was in
00:28:302016.
00:28:30And just for the record, I often do interviews like this and I get asked about them and then it
00:28:35gets clipped off and people say, oh, here's Ariel complaining or whining.
00:28:39I have no issues with the state of my relationship.
00:28:41Of course, as you know, in this business, you want to have a good, respectful relationship with everyone that you
00:28:47cover.
00:28:47Do I wish it was better?
00:28:48Absolutely.
00:28:49But do I understand that that's just the way the cookie crumbled here?
00:28:52Yeah, no problem.
00:28:53And I exist and he exists and they don't stop me from doing my job and we talk to the
00:28:58fighters and we're able to comment.
00:28:59It's a free world and a free press.
00:29:01And so it doesn't change anything that I do.
00:29:05And in fact, I will say when I did have a very good relationship with him, there were times where,
00:29:10you know, given how, you know, how intimidating he can be sometimes, especially when you're a young reporter, you kind
00:29:18of had to bite your tongue a few times.
00:29:19Now I don't have to do that anymore.
00:29:21I don't get that call where someone's yelling at me and I got to put the phone like out here
00:29:25because it's so loud.
00:29:26And I'm living in a 700 square foot apartment and my wife's in the corner being like, what was that
00:29:31all about?
00:29:32And so I don't get those calls anymore.
00:29:33And that's kind of nice.
00:29:34But of course, yeah, I wish that it was better.
00:29:37But, you know, that's sometimes as a man that I look up to once said, Howard Cosell, you got to
00:29:42tell it like it is.
00:29:43And sometimes people don't like when you tell it like it is.
00:29:46And this is the byproduct of that.
00:29:50Jerry McNamara, of course, our new coach for Syracuse basketball.
00:29:53And listen, last time we spoke, you said, Adam, you got to get him on.
00:29:56I had him on my show.
00:29:59It was Mike.
00:30:00I'm ready to run through a wall right about now.
00:30:02And I'm not surprised how great of a move is that for our orange.
00:30:06I love the orange right there.
00:30:08There we go.
00:30:09And actually, Adam, the frame next to it, I hate to direct you.
00:30:13If you guys take a full screen of me for a second, the one over it there, that is an
00:30:19original piece of the carrier dome roof.
00:30:22Wow.
00:30:23In that frame.
00:30:24So there you go with the dome, the days that that roof was up there above before it was no
00:30:29longer Teflon roof that you have to use, as you know, hot water hoses and people up there to try
00:30:36to manually remove snow.
00:30:37So the dome didn't deflate a la the Metrodome in Minneapolis, the same kind of dome and same kind of
00:30:42setup and technology has changed the roof structure now.
00:30:45But yeah, I mean, very excited, obviously, to have another Syracuse alum there who understands who is there and went
00:30:54away and really accomplished a lot in two years, took Siena from four wins to 14 wins to 24 wins
00:31:00and the NCAA tournament and really gave Duke a heck of a game.
00:31:04It's such a different world now.
00:31:05Yeah, it really is.
00:31:06It has changed so much in the last few years.
00:31:09And, you know, at a different time, we have a different conversation.
00:31:12I think college sports is like running full speed into a brick wall.
00:31:16What's happening now in college sports is unsustainable.
00:31:20The cost of football and basketball.
00:31:22And part of what makes college sports great, two things.
00:31:26You went to the school.
00:31:27These guys are representing the school that many people went to.
00:31:29When you watch your alma mater play, they were in some of the classes.
00:31:33Maybe they weren't taking all of them, the most robust classes that you took, but they were part of the
00:31:38student body and they knew the things that happened on campus.
00:31:41Now you've got, you know, mercenaries six month stops in and out and all these sports.
00:31:45We've lost that piece of this.
00:31:47The other part that we've lost as well is the ability to build a program because guys change and change
00:31:53and change and look for different places.
00:31:55And I think Jerry, with his signings in NIL usage of his roster, roster construction, he's trying to get guys
00:32:03who will stay for a couple of years and try to build something.
00:32:06It's going to be interesting to see if that can win out over time over the, you know, everybody's a
00:32:11free agent.
00:32:11We'll just spin the wheel and get new guys.
00:32:13I'm happy Jerry's there.
00:32:15I'm happy, I think, Syracuse basketball, when it's good, it's better overall for the sport, for the ACC, for the
00:32:21Northeast as well.
00:32:22And I really have great confidence that he's going to be able to get this program going back in the
00:32:27right direction and be talking in March, especially with an expanded tournament field.
00:32:31It gives you more teams a chance to get in.
00:32:34And look, that's why it happened, because if you get more teams in the mix, it allows the folks who
00:32:39are funding the NIL side to have a little more skin in the game.
00:32:44Okay, it wasn't a wasted season.
00:32:45We got to the NCAA tournament.
00:32:47It's really hard to fund seven, $8 million rosters and teams don't go to the tournament.
00:32:51It's hard to get all these teams in the ACC and the Big 12 and the other leagues, the Big
00:32:57East as well, to compete with what the SEC and the Big 10 are doing.
00:33:01And if we're not careful, we'll separate those teams.
00:33:03And it may be a fun little 40-team league, but it's not the national footprint.
00:33:07Because people in Arizona, Arizona State fans, Colorado fans, all across the Big 12 footprint, all across the ACC footprint,
00:33:15if the SEC and the Big 10 expand out to 20-inch and go to 40, you're going to get
00:33:20like 35 cities that don't give a damn about what's going on in college sports.
00:33:24And we have semi-pro sports.
00:33:26We have the G League, which is pro-minor league sports.
00:33:31We don't need that.
00:33:32College has something special.
00:33:34And what they've done is they've eroded the special.
00:33:36And if somebody doesn't step up and take control of it, you're not going to have 70, 80 schools and
00:33:43their alums and their student bodies feel like they're a part of what's going on.
00:33:48So it's a huge next three to five years of college sports.
00:33:51I hope Syracuse can remain a significant front-row player.
00:33:54And hires like Jerry McNamara and Fran Brown a couple years ago is our best effort as a school to
00:33:59try to do that.
00:34:02And Mike, you referenced going into Madison Square Garden.
00:34:05You've been in that building for every single moment that has mattered in Madison Square Garden.
00:34:10We could talk college.
00:34:11We could talk Rangers.
00:34:13We could talk Knicks.
00:34:14What makes MSG so special?
00:34:17There's nothing like it.
00:34:19And this is not taking anything away from Yankee Stadium.
00:34:23This is not taking anything away from – now, when you play Super Bowls, you don't play them on home
00:34:27field,
00:34:28so it's not the same thing.
00:34:30Although I would say this, the scene in Tampa when the Giants beat the Bills was one of the great
00:34:35sports settings I've ever been in in my life,
00:34:38and it was one of the most remarkable games I've ever been in in my life with the whole Gulf
00:34:42War and Whitney Houston
00:34:44and the great play by the two teams and everything else.
00:34:47So that is a great memory.
00:34:50There is no building.
00:34:52First of all, it's New York City.
00:34:53And there is nothing that pulsates like the heart of New York City, like Madison Square Garden does, on a
00:35:02big sports night.
00:35:03I've always said I wanted – now, if Dog and I were in our prime, we would be in that
00:35:08building at 1 o'clock this afternoon starting a show,
00:35:11and we would be sitting there, and we would be in the building the whole time, and we would be
00:35:15talking out of the building.
00:35:17And I always said, I wish I could have gone – and we did that in 94 a million times
00:35:23with the Knicks lost and the Rangers won.
00:35:26They both – 49 playoff games that year, home and away.
00:35:2949, 25 at the Garden, 24 on the road.
00:35:32Rangers win in seven.
00:35:33I've still said the most intense building I've ever been in in my life, Adam, in my life, was Rangers
00:35:40-Devils game seven.
00:35:42Waiting, waiting for the third period was the most intense I ever saw a building in my life.
00:35:47It was like no one could take a breath.
00:35:49That's how crazy that was.
00:35:51That game, more than anything else, was the most intense game I've ever been to in my life.
00:35:56I've said that a million times.
00:35:57But having been in the Garden for so many big events, there is nothing that says New York.
00:36:04There is nothing that says big time in sports like Madison Square Garden.
00:36:12You realize that when you're in that building tonight, you are in the center of the universe.
00:36:16That's all there is to it.
00:36:18Everything is revolving around that building.
00:36:22Nothing else feels like that.
00:36:24And that's why I've made this statement.
00:36:25I made this statement about 40 years ago, and I've heard a couple people bring it up in the last
00:36:28week.
00:36:30I said, people love the Yankees, and they have a great following.
00:36:35People love the Giants, and they have a great following.
00:36:38But when the Knicks are playing for high stakes, they take this town on a ride that the Yankees can't
00:36:49do, the Giants can't do,
00:36:51because they light up New York and Manhattan in a way that the other teams don't.
00:36:58A lot of their fans are in the suburbs.
00:37:00A lot of their fans.
00:37:01But Manhattan, the socialites, the rich people, the beautiful people who will all be in the golf tonight.
00:37:07Okay?
00:37:07They'll all be there.
00:37:09They respond to the Knicks more than any other team.
00:37:12And that's why when the Knicks get like this, there is nothing like the impact that the Knicks have on
00:37:19this city.
00:37:20And right now, the Knicks are, they have the whole city in the palm of their hand.
00:37:26That's all there is to it.
00:37:27And this doesn't happen for teams very often.
00:37:29And this is an experience that comes along very, very rarely.
00:37:35This is one of the great, if you're in that building tonight, this is one of those great New York
00:37:40sports nights
00:37:41that you've heard about and you've read about, and tonight, you'll get a chance to experience.
00:37:48I want to get your take on Taylor being at the game last night.
00:37:53I personally had no issue with it, but I'm dying to get your take.
00:37:57And also, Taylor and Travis getting married at Madison Square Garden.
00:38:02They're getting married at Madison Square Garden?
00:38:04Yeah.
00:38:05In Madison Square Garden?
00:38:06That's according to the New York Post, yes.
00:38:09She's getting married?
00:38:10Yeah.
00:38:11In the world's most famous arena?
00:38:12That's right.
00:38:13Ollie Frazier?
00:38:14That's right.
00:38:15Hulk Hogan, Andre the Giant?
00:38:17Here comes Willis.
00:38:18Here comes Willis.
00:38:19And Taylor and Travis Kelce are getting...
00:38:22Listen, she was just at a Cleveland game.
00:38:25I know her man's a Cleveland guy.
00:38:27They're both hard.
00:38:28Now, I met Taylor.
00:38:29She was very, very sweet.
00:38:30You know, she seems like she's having a good time always.
00:38:33And, you know, it wouldn't be the finals in New York City if we didn't have, you know, Taylor Swift.
00:38:41I would say, yes.
00:38:44I don't have a problem with Taylor Swift.
00:38:45I think it's crazy she's getting married in the Garden.
00:38:48That's wild.
00:38:48That, to me, is nuts for her.
00:38:50Is that for her fans?
00:38:51Like, are the fans going to the Garden to, like, watch out?
00:38:54I would assume no, right?
00:38:55No.
00:38:56It's just that they picked the Garden.
00:38:58That's the venue, according to reports.
00:39:00Not what I would do, in general.
00:39:03Not what I would do if I was Taylor Swift.
00:39:04But sit down.
00:39:04Can you name five of the players who are actually on the court right now?
00:39:08Taylor?
00:39:08Like, they were going nuts.
00:39:09But I would go nuts, too, if I was sitting on the wood last night at that game.
00:39:13Everybody was entitled to go crazy.
00:39:15I'll give Taylor Swift a pass.
00:39:16What, you can't stand her?
00:39:18No, I love Taylor.
00:39:18Are your kids Swifties?
00:39:19Absolutely.
00:39:20One of my girls is.
00:39:21One's not.
00:39:22I absolutely love Taylor Swift.
00:39:23I met her at a Knicks game.
00:39:24She was very good.
00:39:25She said I'm a big fan of yours.
00:39:26I don't know if she mistook me for somebody.
00:39:28But we got selfies and everything.
00:39:30So she was sweet.
00:39:32I still think the biggest and most important free agent signing in NBA history, Shaq to the Lakers.
00:39:41It was the biggest deal of all time.
00:39:44Your smile, your eyes right there.
00:39:46What is your reaction?
00:39:47Who was the biggest free agent signing in NBA history?
00:39:52Wow, that's a great question.
00:39:54There have been some great ones.
00:39:58You know, Shaq, yeah, he brought three championships in a row.
00:40:04So you got to say that's got to be the biggest.
00:40:07You know, I don't know, you know, Dennis Rodman.
00:40:11But Dennis Rodman was, you know, the third piece on that big three.
00:40:18You know, Shaq was the cornerstone.
00:40:20So you got to say Shaq coming to the Lakers.
00:40:24You know, I couldn't believe it.
00:40:26You know, it was a dream come true for me because I love Shaq.
00:40:31I had known him as, you know, Orlando Magic.
00:40:34We even toured together in Japan and Australia when he was running with the Fushnikans.
00:40:40So having the Lakers, you know, having him on the Lakers squad,
00:40:45then, you know, having Kobe, not knowing that diamond in the rough,
00:40:49and then getting Phil, you know, I got to say, man, you know,
00:40:54Shaq got to be the biggest one.
00:40:56What was that like touring with Shaq?
00:40:59What was he like as a rapper?
00:41:02Oh, he was, I mean, he was larger than life, you know.
00:41:06He could really flow, you know what I mean?
00:41:08He didn't have no problems with the mic.
00:41:10But he did have problems with those elevators in Japan.
00:41:14I'm sorry for him, because Japan is not built for Shaq.
00:41:18No.
00:41:19You know, he was, you know, he was, you know, pretty, I would say,
00:41:25he was having a tough time with the size of the things out there.
00:41:30But it was fun.
00:41:31We played basketball, throwing my alley-oop.
00:41:34So I got that on my resume.
00:41:36We know Lakers-Sonics was a good day for you,
00:41:40as iconic a line ever in any of your songs, one of my favorite.
00:41:44What was the best day?
00:41:46Give me the best sports day for one of your teams for Ice Cube.
00:41:55I mean, beating, the Lakers beating Boston game seven.
00:42:01Kobe and Ron Artest and, you know, those guys pulling it off.
00:42:07Pau Gasol, you know, avenging that, you know, the year we lost.
00:42:17I think it was 2009, but, you know, just kind of avenging that loss,
00:42:24bringing the championship, Kobe getting his fifth one.
00:42:27That was an amazing day.
00:42:30Another amazing day was, you know, Freddie Freeman hitting the,
00:42:38I think it was a Grand Slam in the World Series.
00:42:41I'm a Yankee fan.
00:42:42I remember it well.
00:42:43Yeah, Grand Slam.
00:42:45You know, that was an amazing day.
00:42:47I ended up playing the next day, the next game,
00:42:51and it reverberated throughout the whole, you know, the trip, you know, to L.A.
00:42:58And so, you know, these are great days.
00:43:03You're a U.S. legend.
00:43:05Obviously, in addition to your majestic play, we think about your amazing hair.
00:43:09A lot of chatter about another U.S. legend-turned-broadcaster's hair.
00:43:13Aaron, listen, I respect anyone who has great hair on the air.
00:43:16What do you think of Landon Donovan and his new do?
00:43:19I love it.
00:43:20I love that he's been so kind of honest and open about talking about what he's doing here.
00:43:27I told him before, I said, look, man, if it makes you happy, do it.
00:43:30Well, actually, I told him, just shave it off.
00:43:33You're a good-looking guy.
00:43:37I'm totally 100% with it.
00:43:39I'm so happy for him that he has done what makes him happy.
00:43:43And I like that he is kind of, you know, embracing, you know, the inevitable types of jokes that are
00:43:51going to happen.
00:43:52Own it, baby.
00:43:53And I think he's doing that.
00:43:54And I think it says a lot about him as a person that he is doing it.
00:43:59But for me, Landon Donovan, with or without hair, I still love him.
00:44:04And I still admire and respect the way he goes about his business, whether it was on the field, whether
00:44:10it was in front of the camera, or it's just in private.
00:44:14Linda, you're such an amazing role model to so many people, whether it's boys, girls, men, women.
00:44:20But I just loved the announcement that you're retiring from ESPN, you know, from Emily Kaplan to so many women
00:44:28in this business saying,
00:44:29Linda's a mentor.
00:44:30She's a role model.
00:44:32She's meant everything to me.
00:44:33What goes through your mind when you hear that?
00:44:37Adam, when the announcement was made back on Monday, I started getting those kind of tweets and text messages from
00:44:46young women.
00:44:48And that's when it really resonated.
00:44:50That really was the happy tears came falling down.
00:44:53And I'm not just saying it.
00:44:54I mean it.
00:44:55And the video I posted, that's you can tell in my tone, my voice, my look on my face.
00:45:02It was just being grateful.
00:45:04And I'm so happy my professional legacy for me is making an impact with those young women who started out
00:45:12watching me on the sports center re-airs.
00:45:14They could be in kindergarten, first grade, second grade.
00:45:18But when they saw me sitting in that sports center chair, they knew anything was possible, that they too could
00:45:25be and talk sports in any way, in any level of the profession.
00:45:30And I love that.
00:45:32I love that so much.
00:45:33And you mentioned young boys too.
00:45:35They, of course, that's my, obviously, because sports center and sports and men and young men and all this stuff.
00:45:41I love that.
00:45:42That's my biggest following, especially the first 20 years of those 34.
00:45:46And what I love about that is when early on, you know, at that time, I knew I had made
00:45:51it.
00:45:51And it's when guys would come up to me and they would say, don't take this the wrong way, Linda.
00:45:56But I didn't take my sports from a girl or a woman until you.
00:46:01You're one of us.
00:46:03And that was, I said, wrong way?
00:46:05That's the best compliment I could ever receive.
00:46:09I go, I love that.
00:46:10Thank you for sharing it.
00:46:11So those are the kind of impacts for each gender that I'm most proud of because men realize and boys
00:46:18realize that women can talk sports.
00:46:20And, of course, the young women, the young girls who grew up knowing that they too can do whatever they
00:46:26want, no matter what it is.
00:46:28You know, if it's a, you know, if they're used to seeing just boys doing it.
00:46:32I love that.
00:46:33Now, it's funny.
00:46:33I had a professor in college.
00:46:35I once asked, you know, I have a New York accent.
00:46:38I said, should I go to a speech pathologist if I want to do things nationally?
00:46:42And his name was Bob Lissett.
00:46:43He said, Shine, I will hunt you down and I will kill you if I ever hear that you go
00:46:47to a speech pathologist.
00:46:49So I'm curious.
00:46:50You're on SportsCenter.
00:46:51You're in Seattle.
00:46:52Did anyone ever say, Linda, you sound too New York?
00:46:56Did you, what was your boss's take at ESPN?
00:47:00Did you ever try to hide it and anchor voice?
00:47:03Because that, to me, was always part of the charm and the beauty of Linda Cohn.
00:47:07Oh, thanks, Adam.
00:47:09And I'm like your professor.
00:47:10I'm so glad you didn't go to a speech pathologist.
00:47:14It's funny you brought that up because, you know, I took TV production at Oswego State, one of the classes.
00:47:21And this great professor I had, his name was Fritz Mazer.
00:47:25And Fritz, and I asked about the accent thing.
00:47:28I said, because, you know, you think I'm going to have to lose the accent just like you considered it.
00:47:32And Fritz said, you know, this is how you lose the accent.
00:47:36You talk slower and open your mouth wider when you speak.
00:47:42And it's interesting.
00:47:44If you watch these early videos of my work on SportsCenter, because I didn't want to upset the apple cart,
00:47:51to your point.
00:47:52I didn't want to get outside the lane.
00:47:55I thought they would come down hard on me.
00:47:58So I did exactly that advice.
00:48:00You don't hear my accent hardly at all on those early SportsCenters, probably the first five to ten years.
00:48:08Because I was afraid.
00:48:10I was afraid.
00:48:11I was like, oh, my.
00:48:13Because, you know, I still was a very, I had a gray area.
00:48:17And being a woman there and doing all those SportsCenters that I did at the time and all that.
00:48:22But that's why, and also another factor, I love all these pictures and videos of the different looks of Linda,
00:48:28you know, through the years.
00:48:31All right.
00:48:32So I bring this up because it was the same sort of thing.
00:48:36I didn't want to go, I didn't want to have attention coming to me because of what I wore or
00:48:44how my hair looked.
00:48:45And it was probably being that shy little girl that I grew up being that I wanted to try to
00:48:50just, like, go with the flow.
00:48:53I wanted to stand out for the right reasons, for my sports passion, for my sports knowledge, and to just
00:49:01be one of the fans out there, one of the viewers.
00:49:03So that's why I was so conservative.
00:49:06I mean, it was a different time, too, by the way.
00:49:08It wasn't a me, me, me culture, obviously.
00:49:11But that's why I had the conservative jackets, you know, right out of Dynasty, you know, with the shoulder pads.
00:49:20Joan Collins and Linda Evans, you know.
00:49:24And that's what I get a kick out of, too.
00:49:28So where does Team USA go from here?
00:49:31Is this the best we can do?
00:49:33But how do we get better?
00:49:35We have a lot of, there's a lot of complexity to this.
00:49:38We have some people who are making these decisions that need to listen to the people who know what they're
00:49:45talking about, for one.
00:49:46And I happen to be one of them.
00:49:48And I hope they call me.
00:49:48I got a couple of calls yesterday.
00:49:50I was really proud of that.
00:49:51That, what do you think we should do?
00:49:52And that's healthy.
00:49:54Those are real conversations where we're actually engaging on the problem.
00:49:58There's that famous speech, you know, from Jeff Daniels.
00:50:01America is like, America is not the greatest country in the world.
00:50:04Right now, it's America is never going to win the World Cup.
00:50:07They're not.
00:50:08And if these people keep doing that and those people keep doing that and we continue to be 27th on
00:50:14the market value and 7th in attendance and all, you can do the same thing.
00:50:19Somebody should do that, by the way.
00:50:20That would be actually pretty funny to do the annual speech because that's what it is.
00:50:24And we're never going to win a World Cup until we figure this out.
00:50:27Well, I want to follow on a couple of things here because 42 million people watch United States, Belgium, across
00:50:32Fox and Telemundo.
00:50:33And I would make the case, and your show on SiriusXM is hotter than the sun.
00:50:38I've watched more World Cup and more soccer than I ever thought I would.
00:50:42Seriously, I can't get enough.
00:50:43Right.
00:50:44People are picking up the phone and calling you, which I think is a brilliant idea.
00:50:48So who made the call?
00:50:50I'm fascinated.
00:50:51And what did you say?
00:50:53Well, some of the delegates inside the federation are, and some of the former coaches.
00:50:59I mean, I had a long conversation with Bob Bradley yesterday.
00:51:02And, you know, the idea that he's still sitting on the outside looking in is kind of somewhat criminal.
00:51:07The guy has an incredible mind.
00:51:09He's incredibly intelligent, intuitive.
00:51:10His son is doing great things as a coach in New York.
00:51:14And the idea is to, instead of hand the keys to somebody that comes from the outside and say, you're
00:51:22in charge of driving this car,
00:51:25and there's only a certain number of places in the car for people that, you know, we need to have
00:51:28a bus.
00:51:29We need to have a train.
00:51:30We need to have more people that are actively supporting our country and are allowed to be in the room
00:51:37and allowed to actually help give their insight and their experiences.
00:51:42Because if we continue to do what we're doing, we'll continue to fail.
00:51:46We can't recycle this.
00:51:48Our team is talented enough.
00:51:49I want everybody to know that.
00:51:50This team is clearly talented enough to do great things.
00:51:54We had the worst day and the worst possible time with 42 million people watching, maybe 20 million for the
00:52:01first time, saying, really?
00:52:02That's it?
00:52:03That's who we are?
00:52:04What's all the excitement about?
00:52:06They're not that good.
00:52:07And that isn't fair either.
00:52:08So we've got to figure out how to fix this thing pretty quick.
00:52:13I need to get your take on everything going on surrounding the WNBA's biggest name, Caitlin Clark.
00:52:20And I love Caitlin Clark.
00:52:21You've got all these physical incidents this season.
00:52:25You've got Republican lawmakers sending a letter to Kathy Engelbert, the WNBA commissioner, on Wednesday,
00:52:31demanding that the league take accountability for multiple attacks.
00:52:34So what the hell is going on here, Nancy?
00:52:38Well, you know, sometimes what is it?
00:52:43Sometimes when people win the lottery within two years, they lose all their money because they're not used to having
00:52:50that type of access and money.
00:52:53But I will tell you this.
00:52:55I agree 100 percent with Candace Parker because, I mean, Caitlin gets the crap beat out of her.
00:53:03It's definitely something that there's jealousy.
00:53:10There's envy because, to me, she's in the top three or four players in this league.
00:53:17Some players play the game.
00:53:19Matter of fact, you're seeing a lot of players right there that have played the game.
00:53:22And she changed the game.
00:53:24Candace Parker changed the game.
00:53:26Nancy Lieberman changed the game.
00:53:28Taurasi changed the game.
00:53:30There's people like that.
00:53:32But she is the economic engine.
00:53:36So I understand that you should not get in anybody else's pocketbook because she has made virtually everybody who is
00:53:46under contract now.
00:53:47You will be millionaires if you're not already.
00:53:50And there would be no $2.2 billion in media rights being given to the WNBA.
00:53:57There would not be commercial jets right now given to the WNBA.
00:54:02She accelerated everything.
00:54:04I mean, just look at this.
00:54:07Everything she does.
00:54:09And, yeah, she's been injured, unfortunately.
00:54:11But I think people take shots at her.
00:54:14And you do.
00:54:16You've got to look back and go, what kind of insecurities do you have that you don't like this player?
00:54:22Because remember the Jordan rules back in 1984?
00:54:26First of all, I don't know if David Stern said anything to the league or to the union like, hey,
00:54:35man, we can't hurt this guy.
00:54:36He's playing to, you know, the full arenas everywhere he plays.
00:54:41The ratings going up, the collective bargaining, the money's going up because of what Michael Jordan did to this league.
00:54:47Get your feelings out of this.
00:54:49Okay?
00:54:50I had a friend once.
00:54:52I still have him.
00:54:53His name is Warren Buffett.
00:54:54And he told me, do not make decisions based on emotion because you'll almost always make the wrong decision.
00:55:02The players who are taking shots at her right now, you're doing this out of emotion.
00:55:09And it's a bad look.
00:55:11It's a horrible look.
00:55:13Now, I think Congress and the government should stay out of this, in my opinion.
00:55:17Yeah.
00:55:18But, you know, she's the type of player.
00:55:22Hey, who was doing the fist pump when he won tournaments with a red jersey?
00:55:27Tiger Woods in the 90s, when he was elevating the attendance and the purses and the TV ratings.
00:55:34I am sorry that you don't move the needle.
00:55:3899% of the players in the league play in the league, but you don't move the proverbial needle that
00:55:46makes this a business.
00:55:48I'm sorry.
00:55:49It's the way it is.
00:55:51And, you know, I was an unpaid pioneer.
00:55:54You're paid pioneers.
00:55:56You have somebody who's doing something special.
00:55:58It's not her fault and Angel Reese's fault that they came into the pros and they had millions and millions
00:56:05of followers from their collegiate career.
00:56:08Timing is everything.
00:56:09I'm not mad at one player in the WNBA for what you have.
00:56:14I am so proud that this league has elevated to give all of you jobs.
00:56:21Clearly, clearly, Asia Wilson is the best player in the world.
00:56:25Of course.
00:56:25Her consistency, how she handles herself, the MVPs, the championships.
00:56:31She's a winner.
00:56:33Her DNA is to win.
00:56:34She's amazing.
00:56:35That's why she has so many national commercials.
00:56:38That's why Angel has so many national commercials.
00:56:41That's why Kelsey Plum has so many national commercials.
00:56:45Sabrina, her shoe is electric in what she's doing with that shoe overseas.
00:56:51And certainly, Caitlin Clark is at the top.
00:56:55I think she'll be the first $100 million female player in the history of women's pro basketball.
00:57:05Syracuse, obviously.
00:57:06We went to college together.
00:57:07Grew up in New City together.
00:57:09Played Little League together.
00:57:10Little League, Babe Ruth prep, too.
00:57:12By the way, can we tell that story quickly?
00:57:14Well, first of all, Babe Ruth, okay, when we were 13, New City Phillies won a championship.
00:57:21Champions.
00:57:21Champion.
00:57:22You played short.
00:57:22I played first.
00:57:23We're the all-star team together.
00:57:25All-star team.
00:57:25Each fish kill.
00:57:26That's right.
00:57:27Living the dream.
00:57:28Utica.
00:57:28Utica.
00:57:29Utica, New York, baby.
00:57:30Lost the first game.
00:57:32Yep.
00:57:32Double elimination.
00:57:33Won every game after.
00:57:35Every game.
00:57:35And then lost the final game.
00:57:36And then, you know, that's just how it goes sometimes.
00:57:41But that's when I feel like baseball is the purest.
00:57:45When you're young and you're playing and then you make these all-star teams and you play
00:57:49with, you know, other guys around the league that have been on other teams, obviously, you
00:57:55know, my baseball skills wore out pretty soon after that.
00:57:59Well, let's get into that, too.
00:58:01Let's give you another story.
00:58:02Right?
00:58:02I mean, let's do it.
00:58:04So, we're 15 years old.
00:58:05The following year.
00:58:06So, 15 years old and they take 19 kids on the all-star team.
00:58:09Yes.
00:58:10They have to cut it down to 15.
00:58:12The other four that don't make it become alternate.
00:58:15Alternates.
00:58:16So, you're pretty much not on the team.
00:58:18You're not on the team.
00:58:18Not on the team.
00:58:19So, you go from all-star to not all-star.
00:58:21And they tell me when I say something that's not right.
00:58:23They changed the rules where it went from New City to Clarkstown to expand the rosters
00:58:31because they thought they were making a run to the 15-year-old Babe Ruth World Series.
00:58:35They thought they were.
00:58:37And then, two of the four cuts, these two guys right here.
00:58:41And they did it.
00:58:42Like, you played in the NFL.
00:58:43They did it publicly.
00:58:44They called us out on the field.
00:58:46I'm crying.
00:58:47You put your arm around me.
00:58:48Then, the team that was ultimately the roster lost the first two games and eliminated.
00:58:53They lost the first two games.
00:58:55And then, I actually got a call to, like, come by then.
00:58:59I was playing AAU basketball, man.
00:59:01I'm not taking, you know, second fiddle.
00:59:02But, that was really the last time I played baseball with that team.
00:59:08And, it all worked out for us.
00:59:10We did okay.
00:59:10We did all right.
00:59:12You know.
00:59:13We'll never forget that.
00:59:15I always say that's the only team I ever got cut from.
00:59:19I mean, who cuts Keith Bullock?
00:59:20I mean, my goodness.
00:59:21Who does that?
00:59:22I was an alternate, but you might as well be cut.
00:59:24I mean, we felt like we were cut.
00:59:25Kind of like, you know, we still had friends on the team, but kind of rooted against them
00:59:28at the same time.
00:59:29I mean, you know, justify that we should have made it.
00:59:32By the way, just tell the audience, I could hit.
00:59:34Yes.
00:59:35Contact.
00:59:36Always.
00:59:37I never, don't recall you striking out.
00:59:40Contact.
00:59:40Always going to put the ball in play.
00:59:42Slap hitter.
00:59:43That's right.
00:59:44Lefty.
00:59:44Lefty.
00:59:45Got lefty.
00:59:45Yeah, there you go.
00:59:46And can go opposite field.
00:59:47I remember that about you, too.
00:59:49We only played until 15, but we played in some really intense baseball up there in Rock
00:59:53and County.
00:59:53It was fun.
00:59:54Yeah.
00:59:54It was a lot of fun.
00:59:55And then, of course, we went to Syracuse together.
00:59:57And I'll tell that story.
01:00:00So, I'm getting an interview.
01:00:01You know, the way they did it at Syracuse, you go to your locker, they say, oh, you have
01:00:06an interview.
01:00:06And it's in the cafeteria.
01:00:08And I go, I don't know why I'm getting interviewed.
01:00:11I'm not playing yet at all.
01:00:13And I go in the cafeteria, and I see Adam sitting there.
01:00:16And I'm like, oh, hey, Adam, what's up?
01:00:17What are you doing here?
01:00:18He's like, oh, I'm having an interview with you.
01:00:20And I was like, oh, snap.
01:00:21And it was very professional then at the time.
01:00:24So, it's always great to see you, Pete Thamel.
01:00:29There's a bunch of guys.
01:00:31Scott Hanson, there's a bunch of guys that went to Syracuse and that I remember just from
01:00:36being on campus and, you know, them starting out and seeing them thrive now.
01:00:41I love that.
01:00:42And listen, Pete's still one of my close friends, one of my best friends from college.
01:00:44And it's interesting.
01:00:45I try to explain this to the kids.
01:00:47Like, the years we were there, Syracuse was phenomenal.
01:00:50I mean, the years you played.
01:00:52The four years I was in school, you were there for five as a red shirt.
01:00:56Donovan was our quarterback for four years.
01:00:57Every game mattered.
01:00:58And then that's how you know, well, you start to see if you have a quarterback on a football,
01:01:04like a football and football, if you have a quarterback that's capable, like you always
01:01:07have a shot.
01:01:08Like at Syracuse, we always had a shot with Donovan McNabb.
01:01:12We started one and three one year, and then we made it to the Fiesta Bowl.
01:01:16So, I like the fact that I had an opportunity to play for, you know, a top 25, top 10
01:01:23school
01:01:23in college.
01:01:25That was a great experience.
01:01:26And we had the experience of our basketball team freshman year going to the championship
01:01:32game.
01:01:33I try to explain that as well.
01:01:34I mean, we made the tournament obvious every year, but our first year on campus.
01:01:38That was amazing.
01:01:39I mean, that was energetic.
01:01:41It was unbelievable.
01:01:42John Wallace, Jason Topolo, Otis Hill.
01:01:44It was incredible.
01:01:45Yeah.
01:01:46John Wallace, I always tell him when I see him, man, like he was the big man on campus
01:01:52then.
01:01:53And it just kind of like as a redshirt freshman, not really knowing what collegiate sports was
01:01:58about.
01:01:59Sure.
01:01:59It's like, oh, all right.
01:02:00I see.
01:02:01So, John Wallace was like the first.
01:02:02That's how it's supposed to work.
01:02:04For sure.
01:02:04John Wallace knew how to be John Wallace on campus.
01:02:07Oh, yeah.
01:02:07He came into the bar with the net running around his neck.
01:02:11Oh, yeah.
01:02:12John Wallace.
01:02:12Everyone, I feel like everybody saw John Wallace that night.
01:02:15Yeah.
01:02:15Everyone knew it.
01:02:16No question.
01:02:19Final question for you.
01:02:21Arguably the most important, hair.
01:02:24Listen, I've got my Bumble and Bumble hair clay, which is unbelievable.
01:02:30It's now up to like 33 bucks for the little jar, right?
01:02:33So, I'm curious, you know, I made sure post-vacation, you know, a little trip to Cabo, I made sure
01:02:39I had the stubble to match Les Snead.
01:02:41We got the glasses together.
01:02:42Your hair is better than mine.
01:02:43I don't know.
01:02:44You know, let's call it like it is.
01:02:46A, take us through the hair care for Les Snead.
01:02:49B, do you have the greatest hair in the NFL?
01:02:52You know what?
01:02:53You know what?
01:02:54It's not for me to judge, right?
01:02:56You know what?
01:02:56You've got to...
01:02:57I'm going to leave that to the others to critique the hair.
01:03:03The interesting thing is you show it.
01:03:05There's an element of short and long.
01:03:07I am one of those people who don't think about haircuts.
01:03:10So, all of a sudden, if this season starts, next thing you know, it could truly be December.
01:03:18And my wife, Kara, may say, you might need to get a haircut.
01:03:21Neat thing is we have a male who cuts our hair.
01:03:25She'll come to the house.
01:03:27She'll make a house call.
01:03:28She takes care of the hair.
01:03:29Just had a training camp cut probably within the last three days.
01:03:33She always leaves me the jar of, if you call it, hair product.
01:03:37I don't know how much it costs.
01:03:39I just take her jar.
01:03:41But without male, I couldn't survive.
01:03:43But as I've been staring at this screen, I'm putting best hair between us today youth.
01:03:50There's just something, you know, mine seems a little, you know, you got a little bit of shine.
01:03:54It's a little longer.
01:03:55I'm going with Adam's hair today.
01:03:57You got the training camp cuts.
01:03:59I'm due for a cut pretty soon.
01:04:01But, yeah, you know, I'll take it today.
01:04:02Less on a winning streak or less, you know, into the season.
01:04:06I love that you have someone who's reliable, comes to the house.
01:04:10You know, you're locked in.
01:04:11You're, you know, pouring over street-free agents.
01:04:13You might forget that you have to get a haircut.
01:04:16Me, I'm scheduling my haircuts every three, four weeks.
01:04:18I got it on speed dial, right?
01:04:20Like, I got my guy, David.
01:04:22He's ready to go.
01:04:23That's how I roll.
01:04:24I love the fact that for you, it's kind of like in moment.
01:04:28Your wife has to say you need a cut, and then you'll be able to go get the haircut.
01:04:32That's the beauty of this deal.
01:04:34You know, I've had some haircuts on Christmas Day with Mel, right?
01:04:36She doesn't have a family, so there's been some times where the season's been going on,
01:04:42and it's Christmas Day, and you know what?
01:04:44Let's do the haircut today.
01:04:46And you're sitting there, and you're really, it's like, man, psychologically, like,
01:04:50is it, should we be doing this today?
01:04:53But she's a part of the family, so it's, you know, it's more than just a haircut.
01:04:59Some are saying that you're the most handsome guest we've ever had on the show,
01:05:03because I hear it all the time, you're my doppelganger.
01:05:07You know, I'll get Jeff Goldblum or Andy Samberg or Zach Braff, but it's always you.
01:05:13I see it.
01:05:15Do you?
01:05:16How many times do people say to you, man, you look like Adam Schein?
01:05:20Yeah, I walk into a room, they're like, yo, it's Schein time.
01:05:24I want to just apologize publicly that you are compared to me and what I look like, man.
01:05:30I'm sorry, you got to go, you got to go through that.
01:05:33But no, it's good to see, you look sharp.
01:05:36Likewise, as always, I love the Philly fan.
01:05:39I truly do.
01:05:40And I interact with them, you know, on radio, on SiriusXM all the time,
01:05:44and all the Instagram posts on X.
01:05:47They're smart, they're passionate.
01:05:48What's the biggest misnomer when it comes to the Philly sports fan?
01:05:54You know, you use the word passionate, and I actually think that's the right word.
01:05:59I think people think sometimes we're, and I'm saying we, I'm putting myself in that category,
01:06:05you know, we're obnoxious fans.
01:06:07And I think that that's disrespectful, because I think what we have is just a passion for our team.
01:06:13We love them.
01:06:15And you know what?
01:06:16When they work hard, win or lose, we always have their back.
01:06:21It's when we feel like they're not putting 100% on the field, or we feel like, you know,
01:06:27they're kind of maybe mailing it in, or they're not their best selves.
01:06:30That's when we get on them.
01:06:32And that is the Philly way.
01:06:34And so, you know, some people see us booing or whatever, you think we're obnoxious.
01:06:38I think it's just passion.
01:06:39And what I think you maybe don't appreciate, and I mean this with the utmost respect,
01:06:44being in New York or not being in Philly, is I don't think you can appreciate how the
01:06:50psychology of our city is changed when our teams are playing well.
01:06:57You just experienced this with the Knicks.
01:06:58It was a pretty cool thing to watch New York rally around them.
01:07:02That is sort of Philly all the time, up and down.
01:07:06And so, there is something that being a Philly sports fan and these teams have on, you know,
01:07:13the psyche of our city and really across Philly, across the whole area, that is just unique.
01:07:19And it is special.
01:07:20And it is something I love.
01:07:22And it's a passion I have inside me.
01:07:26Obviously, I mentioned Syracuse.
01:07:28Everyone knows the connection.
01:07:30And listen, I think about these great moments.
01:07:33And literally, my four years in college were your four years as the starter.
01:07:37And, you know, every single game mattered.
01:07:39The Dome was rocking.
01:07:40I mean, you know, I was calling the games for WAER when, you know, we beat Miami.
01:07:45And you're coming off the field.
01:07:47You won like, you know, 60-10.
01:07:48I was just talking to Dan Morgan about that.
01:07:50Oh, 66-13, yes.
01:07:5266-13.
01:07:53It was unbelievable.
01:07:54And you got that big ovation.
01:07:56We won at Michigan in the big house, the Gator Bowl.
01:08:00I mean, we could go on and on.
01:08:01My personal favorite moment, McNabb to Braminski.
01:08:05Do you have a favorite play from our time at Syracuse together?
01:08:10Favorite moment?
01:08:11Steve would be very excited that you mentioned that versus the Virginia Tech Hokies.
01:08:16That was a great game.
01:08:17My mom ran out on the field.
01:08:19I don't know how she jumped from the bleachers on to the turf.
01:08:22But her and Rob Caldard's mom jumped on the field.
01:08:25That was kind of a sight to see.
01:08:27I would, you know, personally, I would mention the Miami game.
01:08:30And the only reason I mentioned the Miami game, because that was senior day.
01:08:34And that was my last home game, you know, in the Dome.
01:08:37And so to beat Miami 66-13 wasn't so much about the score,
01:08:43but it was everything that was involved in the game.
01:08:45From the intro and the beginning of the game to the way we played offensively and defensively.
01:08:51And then to finish the game off where, you know, our backup quarterback came in and I came off the
01:08:58field.
01:09:00And I think they might have played the Star Wars game song when I came off.
01:09:05And to look up in the stands and to see my dad and mom just kind of in awe of
01:09:10everything that's happened through my five-year career at Syracuse.
01:09:14And for it to end like that in the Dome was special.
01:09:16That was one of the great days I've ever been a part of, seriously.
01:09:20And it was, I love that you mentioned that.
01:09:22It was an ass-kicking.
01:09:23It was a celebration.
01:09:24It was just a sweet and special day.
01:09:27Final one before we let you go.
01:09:28And I do love Fran Brown.
01:09:30How do we get Syracuse football back to being relevant and dominant?
01:09:37Well, I mean, in the world of NIL and the transfer portal, he's been heavy in the transfer portal, getting
01:09:44guys from other power force schools.
01:09:48And so to try to mold them to be able to get that chemistry like we want it.
01:09:52We have our starting quarterback coming back after the Achilles injury.
01:09:56And I've heard good things of how he's been doing and recovering.
01:09:59So that's a bonus.
01:10:01Secondly, we have some weapons on the outside as well as a solid running game.
01:10:06So offensively, we should get back in the mode now.
01:10:09It's a little different than when Kyle McCord was there.
01:10:12But I think what we plan to do offensively is going to be exciting again.
01:10:17Again, it kind of starts with our defense.
01:10:21Defense and special teams are being able to give us good field position.
01:10:24And defense being able to get off the field on third down where we'll be able to see a little
01:10:28bit more of our offense start to evolve.
01:10:31We'll see you next time.
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